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4th Apr '16 1:35:35 PM Jhonny
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* In Europe, especially the Nordic countries and Germany, Handball is extremely popular. As Germany is one of the biggest markets, the world governing body for Handball ''changed their own rules'' to allow Germany to participate even though it had not qualified. Go to Schleswig-Holstein (the northernmost state of Germany) and go to a Handball game, Serious Business indeed.

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* In Europe, especially the Nordic countries and Germany, Handball is extremely popular. As Germany is one of the biggest markets, the world governing body for Handball ''changed their own rules'' to allow Germany to participate in the world cup even though it had not qualified. Go to Schleswig-Holstein (the northernmost state of Germany) and go to a Handball game, Serious Business indeed.
26th Mar '16 9:53:12 AM nombretomado
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* Australian {{cricket}} legend and WorldWarTwo fighter pilot Keith Miller put things into perspective when he was asked how he handled the pressure of international cricket. His reply: "Pressure? A Messerschmitt up your arse is pressure. Playing cricket is not."

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* Australian {{cricket}} UsefulNotes/{{cricket}} legend and WorldWarTwo fighter pilot Keith Miller put things into perspective when he was asked how he handled the pressure of international cricket. His reply: "Pressure? A Messerschmitt up your arse is pressure. Playing cricket is not."
24th Mar '16 10:09:26 AM DarkPhoenix94
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** Unsurprisingly, the Liverpool-Manchester United derby (considered the counterpart of Spain's El Clasico between Barcelona and Real Madrid) has been nicknamed 'El Vitriol', and it is aptly named. Unlike the more local Liverpool-Everton and (to an extent) the Manchester United-Manchester City derbies, there's no family ties among the supporters and the reaction of the two to one another is best described as vitriolic and/or pure hatred. Despite the recent decline in both sides fortunes, it is still one of the most fiercely contested match-ups in world football, watched by hundreds of millions of fans worldwide.
24th Mar '16 10:02:48 AM DarkPhoenix94
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*** In the semi-final of the European Championship the Italian football team defeated Germany 2-1. Fans have openly quoted the ''Bollettino della Vittoria'', the ''war bullettin announcing the victory in WorldWarI''. It happens pretty much '''every single time an Italian team wins an high profile match against a foreign one'''.
*** In the 2002 World Cup, the Italian national team was eliminated in the Round of 16 by South Korea, in no small part thanks to bad officiation from referee [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Moreno Byron Moreno]] (later suspended by the Equadorian football association and investigated on charges of favoritism and even falsification of a report in a match between the Liga Deportiva Universitaria de Quito[[note]]at the time Moreno was a candidate in imminent elections for Quito's city council[[/note]] and the Barcelona). South Korean player Ahn Jung-hwan, who scored the decisive goal and at the time played for the Italian team Perugia A.C., was kicked out of the team, and Moreno was invited in Italy specifically to get booed and hit with rotten eggs and dedicated a song chanting for his death and the public toilets of an Italian town.
* Up until the early 1990's, English football fans were [[FootballHooligans infamous for rioting]] which combined with high fences, culminated in the Heysel Disaster of 1985 in which 39 Juventus fans were killed (resulting in the ban of English teams from European competition for five years) and the Hillsborough disaster, in which ''96'' Liverpool fans were killed, with the [[TearJerker youngest victim, Jon-Paul Gilhooley, being only nine years old.]] He was also the cousin of a little boy who grew up to become legendary Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard, [[HeartWarming who later said in his autobiography that he plays for Jon-Paul]]. The latter, however, can mainly be blamed on poor policing. The ''Sun'' newspaper responded by viciously slandering Liverpool fans, alleging that they looted and pissed on the dead. To this day, despite several apologies of dubious sincerity, the Sun sells very few papers in Liverpool. Over twenty years after the disaster, a documentary proved that you can't even give it away.
** Even these days, football rivalries are taken ''very'' seriously, with derby games such as Liverpool vs Everton/Manchester United, Arsenal vs Tottenham/Manchester United, Manchester City vs [[RuleOfThree Manchester]] [[RunningGag United]], Sunderland vs Newcastle and Aston Villa vs Birmingham City tend to be scrappy affairs - Liverpool vs Everton, the Merseyside Derby, has yielded the most red cards in Premier League history, for instance, and heavily policed [[note]] It should be noted that as 'the Friendly Derby'. it is one of the few derbies that doesn't enforce total fan segregation and the crowds tend to be relatively well-behaved, since there are usually members of the same family supporting both sides. As recently as the FA Cup Final of 1984, both groups of fans freely mingled, chanting 'Merseyside, Merseyside' and despite the uptick in rivalry, as recently as 2002, a player called Abel Xavier moved from one team to the other and played for Everton in the first derby, then Liverpool in the return match. Astonishingly, he is still alive today. [[/note]]. Wearing the wrong shirt in the wrong stand, for instance, is pretty much a suicide note. And let's not even discuss Millwall [[HateSink 'No one likes us, we don't care']] FC...

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*** In the semi-final of the European Championship the Italian football team defeated Germany 2-1. Fans have openly quoted the ''Bollettino della Vittoria'', the ''war bullettin bulletin announcing the victory in WorldWarI''. It happens pretty much '''every single time an Italian team wins an high profile match against a foreign one'''.
*** In the 2002 World Cup, the Italian national team was eliminated in the Round of 16 by South Korea, in no small part thanks to bad officiation from referee [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Moreno Byron Moreno]] (later suspended by the Equadorian football association and investigated on charges of favoritism and even falsification of a report in a match between the Liga Deportiva Universitaria de Quito[[note]]at the time Moreno was a candidate in imminent elections for Quito's city council[[/note]] and the Barcelona). South Korean player Ahn Jung-hwan, who scored the decisive goal and at the time played for the Italian team Perugia A.C., was kicked out of the team, and Moreno was invited in to Italy specifically to get booed and hit with rotten eggs and dedicated a song chanting for his death and the public toilets of an Italian town.
* Up until the early 1990's, English football fans were [[FootballHooligans infamous for rioting]] rioting]], to the point where individual teams had 'firms' of hooligans, which essentially engaged in gang warfare. This behaviour, combined with high fences, fences to keep fans off the pitch and standing areas, culminated in the Heysel Disaster of 1985 in which 39 Juventus fans were killed (resulting in the ban of English teams from European competition for five years) and the Hillsborough disaster, in which ''96'' Liverpool fans were killed, with the [[TearJerker youngest victim, Jon-Paul Gilhooley, being only nine years old.]] He was also the cousin of a little boy who grew up to become legendary Liverpool and England captain Steven Gerrard, [[HeartWarming [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming who later said in his autobiography that he plays for Jon-Paul]]. The latter, however, can mainly be blamed on poor policing.policing and the police attempted to pass the buck to the fans with the support of the Thatcher government. The ''Sun'' newspaper responded by viciously slandering Liverpool fans, alleging that they looted and pissed on the dead. To this day, despite several apologies of dubious sincerity, the Sun ''Sun'' sells very few papers in Liverpool. Over twenty years after the disaster, a documentary proved that you can't even give it away.
** Even these days, football rivalries are taken ''very'' seriously, with derby games such as Liverpool vs Everton/Manchester United, Arsenal vs Tottenham/Manchester United, Manchester City vs [[RuleOfThree Manchester]] [[RunningGag United]], Sunderland vs Newcastle and Aston Villa vs Birmingham City capable of making or breaking a player or manager's career. Accordingly, they tend to be scrappy affairs - Liverpool vs Everton, the Merseyside Derby, has yielded the most red cards in Premier League history, for instance, and heavily policed [[note]] It policed. Perversely, it should be noted that as 'the Friendly Derby'. Derby', as it used to be known, it is also one of the few derbies that doesn't enforce total fan segregation and the crowds tend to be relatively well-behaved, since there are usually members of the same family supporting both sides. As recently as the FA Cup Final of 1984, both groups of fans freely mingled, chanting 'Merseyside, Merseyside' and despite 'Are you watching Manchester?'. Despite the uptick in recent intensifying of the rivalry, as recently as 2002, a player called Abel Xavier moved from one team to the other and played in the middle of the season, playing for Everton in the first derby, then Liverpool in the return match. Astonishingly, he is still alive today. [[/note]]. Wearing With that notable exception out of the way, wearing the wrong shirt in the wrong stand, for instance, is pretty much a suicide note. And let's not even discuss Millwall [[HateSink 'No one likes us, we don't care']] FC...FC...
** Connected to above, mocking the Hillsborough Disaster tends to get a horrified DudeNotFunny reaction from almost every team in the League, save a small minority of Manchester United fans that enjoy bringing it up every other match or so. To take one example, before the second leg of a Europa League match at Old Trafford (United's home stadium) which Liverpool were going into as favourites following a decisive win at Anfield the previous week, a Hillsborough themed banner was hung on a bridge crossing over the main road from Liverpool to Manchester. It was accompanied by vile chants of 'the ''Sun'' was right, you're murderers'. This wasn't back in the bad old days of the late 80's/early 90's. This was in ''March 2016.''
* Russian fans are infamous for violence and racism, with black players frequently being on the receiving end of monkey chants. In fact, they're so bad that this was brought up as a reason why Russia shouldn't be awarded the 2018 World Cup by FIFA. [[CorruptCorporateExecutive FIFA's non-existent ethics policy, however, meant that this cut no ice.]]
** Spanish fans are less violent, but still fairly racist - Barcelona fullback Dani Alves, a black Brazilian, had a banana thrown at him. In a CrowningMomentOfAwesome, he picked it up, peeled it, and took a bite, before chucking it off the pitch.
*** The notably vicious Barcelona-Madrid rivalry, culminating in the 'El Clasico' derbies watched by hundreds of millions worldwide, is rooted in what can be politely called political disputes going back decades or, arguably, centuries. Barcelona FC are based in the city of Barcelona, de facto capital of Catalonia, a part of Spain with its own language and fearsomely independent identity (it frequently attempts to secede, for one thing). Real Madrid is based in Madrid, capital of Spain as a whole and the region of Castile, which ended up dominating the rest, and was also the favoured club of military dictator Francisco Franco, who ruled until his death in 1975, and therefore seen as a tool of his regime and representative of his harsh repressive measures taken against the Catalonian language and identity. In this context, it is perhaps unsurprising that Portuguese winger Luis Figo, who moved from Barcelona to Real Madrid, had a pig's head thrown at him on his first return to Barcelona.



* The Welsh treat rugby and rugby players with a similar reverence, with football coming a very distant second to rugby in the otherwise football mad British Isles (though this might be changing, somewhat, with the unexpected recent success of the Wales football team). and while Wales isn't quite as successful as New Zealand, they are almost always considered to be contenders for the Six Nations title (a competition comprised of England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France and Italy, generally considered to be the best teams in the northern hemisphere) and are frequent winners of [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome the Grand Slam, achieved only by beating every other team in the Six Nations, including 2003 World Cup Winners and 2007 Finalists England, France and Ireland]].

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* The Welsh treat rugby and rugby players with a similar reverence, with football coming a very distant second to rugby in the otherwise football mad British Isles (though this might be changing, somewhat, with the unexpected recent success of the Wales football team). and team, which broke into the top 10 of the World Rankings in October 2015). And while Wales isn't quite as absurdly successful as New Zealand, they are almost always considered to be contenders for the Six Nations title (a [[note]] The Six Nations is an annual competition comprised of England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Italy, Italy]], generally considered to be the best teams in the northern hemisphere) hemisphere - though Italy, while much improved, [[ButtMonkey is still considered to be an opportunity to rack up the points by the other teams]] [[/note]] and are frequent winners of [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome the Grand Slam, achieved only by beating every other team in the Six Nations, including 2003 World Cup Winners and 2007 Finalists England, 2011 Finalists France and Ireland]].Ireland]], being the most frequent winners in the 21st century.
20th Mar '16 12:37:54 AM Dialh
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** When [=LeBron=] returned to Cleveland four years later, Cleveland and its surroundings celebrated. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_z0WCIzoPQ This is how the local sports radio station reported, and reacted to, the news.]]
14th Feb '16 9:05:27 AM DarkPhoenix94
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* Up until the early 1990's, English football fans were [[FootballHooligans infamous for rioting]] which combined with high fences, culminated in the Heysel Disaster of 1985 in which 39 Juventus fans were killed (resulting in the ban of English teams from European competition for five years) and the Hillsborough disaster, in which ''96'' Liverpool fans were killed. The latter, however, can mainly be blamed on poor policing. The Sun newspaper responded by viciously slandering Liverpool fans, alleging that they looted and pissed on the dead. To this day, despite several apologies of dubious sincerity, the Sun sells very few papers in Liverpool.
** Even these days, football rivalries are taken ''very'' seriously, with derby games such as Liverpool vs Everton/Manchester United, Arsenal vs Tottenham/Manchester United, Manchester City vs [[RuleOfThree Manchester]] [[RunningGag United]] Sunderland vs Newcastle and Aston Villa vs Birmingham City tend to be scrappy affairs - Liverpool vs Everton has yielded the most red cards in Premier League history, for instance, and heavily policed. Wearing the wrong shirt in the wrong stand, for instance, is pretty much a suicide note. And let's not even discuss Millwall 'No one likes us, we don't care' FC...

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* Up until the early 1990's, English football fans were [[FootballHooligans infamous for rioting]] which combined with high fences, culminated in the Heysel Disaster of 1985 in which 39 Juventus fans were killed (resulting in the ban of English teams from European competition for five years) and the Hillsborough disaster, in which ''96'' Liverpool fans were killed.killed, with the [[TearJerker youngest victim, Jon-Paul Gilhooley, being only nine years old.]] He was also the cousin of a little boy who grew up to become legendary Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard, [[HeartWarming who later said in his autobiography that he plays for Jon-Paul]]. The latter, however, can mainly be blamed on poor policing. The Sun ''Sun'' newspaper responded by viciously slandering Liverpool fans, alleging that they looted and pissed on the dead. To this day, despite several apologies of dubious sincerity, the Sun sells very few papers in Liverpool.
Liverpool. Over twenty years after the disaster, a documentary proved that you can't even give it away.
** Even these days, football rivalries are taken ''very'' seriously, with derby games such as Liverpool vs Everton/Manchester United, Arsenal vs Tottenham/Manchester United, Manchester City vs [[RuleOfThree Manchester]] [[RunningGag United]] United]], Sunderland vs Newcastle and Aston Villa vs Birmingham City tend to be scrappy affairs - Liverpool vs Everton Everton, the Merseyside Derby, has yielded the most red cards in Premier League history, for instance, and heavily policed.policed [[note]] It should be noted that as 'the Friendly Derby'. it is one of the few derbies that doesn't enforce total fan segregation and the crowds tend to be relatively well-behaved, since there are usually members of the same family supporting both sides. As recently as the FA Cup Final of 1984, both groups of fans freely mingled, chanting 'Merseyside, Merseyside' and despite the uptick in rivalry, as recently as 2002, a player called Abel Xavier moved from one team to the other and played for Everton in the first derby, then Liverpool in the return match. Astonishingly, he is still alive today. [[/note]]. Wearing the wrong shirt in the wrong stand, for instance, is pretty much a suicide note. And let's not even discuss Millwall [[HateSink 'No one likes us, we don't care' care']] FC...



** The Ashes. It's one of the most fiercely contested (and smallest) trophies on the planet and it can be guaranteed that the supporters of whichever side wins will gloat about it incessantly until the next set of fixtures.



* OlderThanPrint: Chariot Racing in the Roman, and later, the Byzantine Empire. The hatred between the Reds, the Whites, the Greens, and the Blues was both comparable to modern day events like soccer riots. But then, in 532 AD Constantinople, an incident involving a botched execution of Blue and Green leaders for the murder of a citizen resulted in the two factions unifying and attempting, and almost succeeding, in ''overthrowing the Byzantine Empire itself''. The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots Nika Riots]] were so bad that Justinian I attempted to flee the capitol, but his wife Theodora (a [[TheHighQueen High Queen]] who was born a low-class woman) stopped him at the last minute. The riots only stopped when his clever resident hawk, [[MagnificentBastard Flavius Belisarius]] no less, was called back from retirement, along with two generals and several army divisions, lured the rioters into the Hippodrome, convinced the Blues to walk out, and killed ''thirty thousand'' people.

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* OlderThanPrint: Chariot Racing in the Roman, and later, the Byzantine Empire. The hatred between the Reds, the Whites, the Greens, and the Blues was both comparable to modern day events like soccer riots. But then, in 532 AD Constantinople, an incident involving a botched execution of Blue and Green leaders for the murder of a citizen resulted in the two factions unifying and attempting, and almost succeeding, in ''overthrowing the Byzantine Empire itself''. The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots Nika Riots]] were so bad that Justinian I attempted to flee the capitol, but his wife Theodora (a [[TheHighQueen High Queen]] who was born a low-class woman) stopped him at the last minute. The riots only stopped when his clever resident hawk, [[MagnificentBastard Flavius Belisarius]] no less, was called back recalled from retirement, along with two generals and several army divisions, lured the rioters into the Hippodrome, convinced the Blues to walk out, and killed ''thirty thousand'' people.



* The Welsh treat rugby and rugby players with a similar reverence, with football coming a very distant second to rugby in the otherwise football mad British isles, and while Wales isn't quite as successful as New Zealand, they are almost always considered to be contenders of the Six Nations title and are frequent winners of [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome the Grand Slam, achieved only by beating every other team in the Six Nations, including 2003 World Cup Winners and 2007 Finalists England, France and Ireland]].

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* The Welsh treat rugby and rugby players with a similar reverence, with football coming a very distant second to rugby in the otherwise football mad British isles, Isles (though this might be changing, somewhat, with the unexpected recent success of the Wales football team). and while Wales isn't quite as successful as New Zealand, they are almost always considered to be contenders of for the Six Nations title (a competition comprised of England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France and Italy, generally considered to be the best teams in the northern hemisphere) and are frequent winners of [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome the Grand Slam, achieved only by beating every other team in the Six Nations, including 2003 World Cup Winners and 2007 Finalists England, France and Ireland]].Ireland]].
** Basically, insult rugby in Wales if you want to die a quick and painful death.


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**** Quite a lot of fans of other sports are aware that American Football is dangerous despite its padding, but enjoy bringing it up simply to annoy American Football fans.
14th Feb '16 7:04:41 AM igordebraga
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* Keep The Idea of Stadium Justice in mind when going to the stadium of another team to cheer for your team. If you cause trouble, you're going to be sorry, even the security will pick favors.

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* Keep The Idea the idea of Stadium Justice "stadium justice" in mind when going to the stadium of another team team's arena to cheer for your team. If you cause trouble, trouble (and depending on who the opponent is, they ''will'' be unwelcoming!), you're going to be sorry, even the security will pick favors.



* Up until the early 1990's, English football fans were infamous for rioting which combined with high fences, culminated in the Heysel Disaster of 1985 in which 39 Juventus fans were killed (resulting in the ban of English teams from European competition for five years) and the Hillsborough disaster, in which ''96'' Liverpool fans were killed. The latter, however, can mainly be blamed on poor policing. The Sun newspaper responded by viciously slandering Liverpool fans, alleging that they looted and pissed on the dead. To this day, despite several apologies of dubious sincerity, the Sun sells very few papers in Liverpool.

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* Up until the early 1990's, English football fans were [[FootballHooligans infamous for rioting rioting]] which combined with high fences, culminated in the Heysel Disaster of 1985 in which 39 Juventus fans were killed (resulting in the ban of English teams from European competition for five years) and the Hillsborough disaster, in which ''96'' Liverpool fans were killed. The latter, however, can mainly be blamed on poor policing. The Sun newspaper responded by viciously slandering Liverpool fans, alleging that they looted and pissed on the dead. To this day, despite several apologies of dubious sincerity, the Sun sells very few papers in Liverpool.
6th Feb '16 11:10:31 AM nombretomado
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* Australians as a nation are, for the most part, utterly ''mad'' about almost all forms of sports (but especially the ones they're ''really'' good at, such as cricket and AustralianRulesFootball). Here's a fun exercise; watch any Australian commercial TV news broadcast and make note of how many of the stories relate to sport in some way. Bet it's over half. If you happen to live in Australia and ''aren't'' particularly interested in sport, it makes an otherwise wonderful country somewhat less wonderful to live in. It doesn't help that when they ''lose'' something that they normally win (as happened a couple of years ago, when England unexpectedly won the Ashes (a Cricket Test Series), or with recent grumblings about their winning less gold medals at the Beijing Olympics than expected), they can be pretty bad losers. Although strangely, unlike other places in the world with strong team loyalties, it's possible to wear shirts with slogans like "I support two teams: Collingwood and whoever is playing Brisbane" without being shanked. Try wearing a shirt saying "I support two teams: Manchester United and whoever is playing Liverpool" and see how long you last anywhere where the English Premier League is followed.

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* Australians as a nation are, for the most part, utterly ''mad'' about almost all forms of sports (but especially the ones they're ''really'' good at, such as cricket and AustralianRulesFootball).UsefulNotes/AustralianRulesFootball). Here's a fun exercise; watch any Australian commercial TV news broadcast and make note of how many of the stories relate to sport in some way. Bet it's over half. If you happen to live in Australia and ''aren't'' particularly interested in sport, it makes an otherwise wonderful country somewhat less wonderful to live in. It doesn't help that when they ''lose'' something that they normally win (as happened a couple of years ago, when England unexpectedly won the Ashes (a Cricket Test Series), or with recent grumblings about their winning less gold medals at the Beijing Olympics than expected), they can be pretty bad losers. Although strangely, unlike other places in the world with strong team loyalties, it's possible to wear shirts with slogans like "I support two teams: Collingwood and whoever is playing Brisbane" without being shanked. Try wearing a shirt saying "I support two teams: Manchester United and whoever is playing Liverpool" and see how long you last anywhere where the English Premier League is followed.
22nd Jan '16 10:43:33 PM Jhonny
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* In Europe, especially the Nordic countries and Germany, Handball is extremely popular. As Germany is one of the biggest markets, the world governing body for Handball ''changed their own rules'' to allow Germany to participate even though it had not qualified. Go to Schleswig-Holstein (the northernmost state of Germany) and go to a Handball game, Serious Business indeed.
22nd Jan '16 10:28:08 PM Jhonny
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***On the flip side, they have such a large hatedom, it is almost hard to believe there is a single American who follows Football and does not care about them. Double both when they actually have a chance at winning something
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