History Series / BostonPublic

16th Feb '18 12:53:19 PM kalel32688
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* AdultsAreUseless: Both played straight and {{inverted|trope}}. The faculty ''does'' generally make attempts to help; they're just not always effective or successful. But parents? Forget it. They are always portrayed as either useless, pretentious, or overprotective of their kids, setting [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]] double standards for children and teachers, and going for {{Frivolous Lawsuit}}s about twice per episode. In most cases, this [[AllForNothing undermined every effort made]] by the teachers to help the kids, successful or not.

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* AdultsAreUseless: Both played straight and {{inverted|trope}}. The faculty ''does'' generally make attempts to help; they're just not always effective or successful. But parents? Forget it. They are always portrayed as either useless, pretentious, or overprotective of their kids, kids; setting [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]] double standards for children and teachers, teachers; and going for {{Frivolous Lawsuit}}s about twice per episode. In most cases, this [[AllForNothing undermined every effort made]] by the teachers to help the kids, successful or not.



* BadBoss: Superintendent Marsha Shinn in the first season. She seemed more interested in getting Steven fired for both his own actions (specifically slamming a bully against a locker in defense of another student in the very first episode) and the unusual antics of his faculty than backing him up. There is a reason she has the nickname "The Dragon Lady."

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* BadBoss: Superintendent Marsha Shinn in the first season. She seemed more interested in getting Steven fired for both his own actions (specifically slamming a bully against a locker in defense of another student in the very first episode) and the unusual antics of his faculty than backing him up. Steven even tells her right to her face that he considers her to be one of many problems he faces as the principal of Winslow High. There is a reason she has the nickname "The Dragon Lady."



* BreakTheHaughty: This happens to Guber in a Season 1 episode. Guber orders Harvey to go see a doctor to ascertain his mental state. Later, he receives an invitation to conduct an orchestra, which requires him to drive for two hours to get to the symphony. Once Guber arrives at his destination, he's devastated to find out that the symphony doesn't exist. He returns to Winslow and goes on the warpath, searching for the one responsible for pranking him; he first suspects Harry, then a visiting Milton, and Lisa Greer. The true culprit is revealed to be Harvey. Guber is dumbfounded.

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* BreakTheHaughty: This happens to Guber in a Season 1 episode. Guber orders Harvey to go see a doctor to ascertain his mental state. Later, he receives an invitation to conduct an orchestra, orchestra in Northampton, which requires him to drive for two hours to get to the symphony. Once Guber arrives at his destination, arrives, he's devastated to find out that the symphony Northampton doesn't exist.have a symphony. He returns to Winslow and goes on the warpath, searching for the one responsible for pranking him; he first suspects Harry, then a visiting Milton, and Lisa Greer. The true culprit is revealed to be Harvey. Guber is dumbfounded.



-->Oh, my head's up a horse's ass. I feel like...[[ItMakesSenseInContext bending over and pooping in my mouth]].

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-->Oh, -->'''Buttle''': Oh, my head's up a horse's ass. I feel like...[[ItMakesSenseInContext bending over and pooping in my mouth]].



-->'''Marla:''' Excuse me... Are you guys any good?

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-->'''Marla:''' --->'''Marla:''' Excuse me... Are you guys any good?



* CodeSilver: One of the episodes from the first season revolves around a lock-down of the school and a desperate attempt by the police to find a student who is the murderer of a restaurant owner.
* CrossOver: With ''Series/ThePractice'' and later ''Series/BostonLegal''.

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* CodeSilver: One of the episodes from the first season revolves around a lock-down of the school and a desperate attempt by the police to find a student who is the murderer of murdered a restaurant owner.
* CrossOver: With ''Series/ThePractice'' in Season 1 and later ''Series/BostonLegal''.''Series/BostonLegal'' roughly a year after this show's cancellation.



* EpicFail: The student body gives the Teacher of the Year award to Guber in an attempt at BehavioralConditioning in order to get him to lighten up. The condition works but not as they want it. Instead of viewing it as negative punishment (removing their hatred in an attempt to get him to change his behavior) as the students intended, he views it as positive reinforcement (the students appreciated the job he was doing) and continued to act as before. They seem to not have learned from their parents not to reward unwanted behavior.

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* EpicFail: The In the Season 1 finale, the student body gives the Teacher of the Year award to Guber in an attempt at BehavioralConditioning in order to [[TookALevelInKindness get him to lighten up. The condition works up]]. It works, but not as they want it. Instead of viewing it as negative punishment (removing their hatred in an attempt to get him to change his behavior) as the students intended, he Guber views it as positive reinforcement (the students appreciated the job he was doing) and continued to act as before. They seem to not have learned from their parents not to reward unwanted behavior.



** There was also Jenna Miller, a pretty teacher who once counseled a male student (who had been ogling her ass and even started to reach out to touch it) that smart guys get the chicks with "nice asses." Guber even describes her as "a nasty little thing."



* JerkassHasAPoint: Gruber took a lot of flak for firing Riley, who failed to report his fellow teacher's affair with a student. However, in having an affair with a student, Buttle was committing sexual abuse. Riley, as a teacher, was a mandatory reporter, required to report any instance of child abuse he discovered. This is the law, and the law doesn't care about how anyone feels, or if the abuser is a friend. Legally, Riley did not have the option to give Buttle the choice to end the relationship or turn himself in on his own. Failing to carry out his legal duty made Riley a criminal. Similarly, Gruber had no choice but to fire Riley for failing to carry out his duty as a mandatory reporter.
* LaterInstallmentWeirdness: The series started off featuring things that regularly happen in inner city high schools. Later seasons had really weird things happen, like a student getting electrocuted and thinking he's Jesus.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Gruber In Season 1, Guber took a lot of flak for firing Kevin Riley, who failed to report his fellow teacher's Milton Buttle's affair with Lisa Greer, a student. However, in having an affair with a student, Buttle Milton was committing sexual abuse. Riley, Kevin, as a teacher, was a mandatory reporter, required to report any instance of child abuse he discovered. This is the law, and the law doesn't care about how anyone feels, feels or if the abuser is a personal friend. Legally, Riley Kevin did not have the option to give Buttle Milton the choice to end the relationship or turn himself in on his own. Failing to carry out his legal duty made Riley Kevin a criminal. Similarly, Gruber Guber had no choice but to fire Riley Kevin for failing to carry out his duty as a mandatory reporter.
* LaterInstallmentWeirdness: The series started off featuring things that regularly happen in inner city inner-city high schools. Later seasons had really weird things happen, like a student getting electrocuted and thinking he's Jesus.
%%* LesbianJock
UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}.
* LesbianJock: Tina Knowles, a phys ed teacher responsible for her cheerleaders performing a ''very'' suggestive dance routine, was suspected of being this in Season 1.



* LoopholeAbuse: Sheryl Holt's favorite way of saving her ass, her website, and its content. After a while, Guber got really sick of dealing with her, so he [[KickTheSonOfABitch turned the tables and used a simple loophole of his own]]--since every time he suspended Sheryl and her father would send a lawyer, Guber simply did the math and realized how costly it will be in the long run if he keeps on suspending her ''every single day'' and then force the lawyer to wait for him for a few hours.

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* LoopholeAbuse: Sheryl Holt's favorite way of saving her ass, her website, and its content. After a while, Guber got really sick of dealing with her, so he [[KickTheSonOfABitch turned the tables and used a simple loophole of his own]]--since own]]: Since every time he suspended Sheryl and her father would send a lawyer, Guber simply did the math and realized how costly it will be in the long run if he keeps on suspending her ''every single day'' and then force the lawyer to wait for him for a few hours.



* MortonsFork: Invoked [[spoiler:but ultimately subverted]] in a Season 1 episode. A linebacker for the school football team is [[spoiler:seemingly]] gay and expects to share the same accommodations, including shower facilities, as the other players. The teachers discuss the dilemma they face: if they deny his request, he will sue for anti-gay discrimination; if they grant it, the other players could sue for sexual harassment. [[spoiler:It turns out to be a false dilemma, as the player isn't even gay.]]

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* MortonsFork: Invoked [[spoiler:but ultimately subverted]] in a Season 1 episode. "Chapter Three." A linebacker for the school football team is [[spoiler:seemingly]] gay and expects to share the same accommodations, including shower facilities, as the other players. The teachers discuss the dilemma they face: if If they deny his request, he will sue for anti-gay discrimination; if they grant it, the other players could sue for sexual harassment. [[spoiler:It turns out to be a false dilemma, as the player isn't even gay.]]



** In a Season 2 episode, Danny leads a class discussion about the n-word and receives lots of flack for it from Marla and Steven, the latter of whom actually ends up taking over the discussion after Danny suggests he do so.

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** In a Season 2 episode, Danny leads a class discussion about the n-word and receives lots of flack for it from Marla and Steven, the latter of whom actually ends up taking over the discussion after Danny Danny, in a fit of anger at being denied the chance to explore the double standard that exists around the racial slur, suggests he do so.



* NapoleonDelusion: In the fourth season, a student gets electrocuted and believes he's UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}.

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* NapoleonDelusion: In the fourth season, a student student, Peter Feldman, gets electrocuted and believes he's UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}.



* TeacherStudentRomance: Buttle begins a relationship with Lisa Greer, whom he believes is a college student but later learns is a student at Winslow High. He ultimately ends up getting fired for it.

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* TeacherStudentRomance: Milton Buttle begins a relationship with Lisa Greer, whom he believes is a college student but later learns is a student at Winslow High. He ultimately ends up getting fired for it.



* TroubledSympatheticBigot: Harvey is completely oblivious about how bad his bigotry is. He doesn't even think about himself as a bigot and when he finally realizes it, it's a HeroicBSOD for him.

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* TroubledSympatheticBigot: Harvey is completely oblivious about how bad his bigotry is. He doesn't even think about of himself as a bigot and when he finally realizes it, it's a HeroicBSOD for him.
27th Jan '18 5:25:59 PM esq263
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Gruber took a lot of flak for firing Riley, who failed to report his fellow teacher's affair with a student. However, in having an affair with a student, Buttle was committing sexual abuse. Riley, as a teacher, was a mandatory reporter, required to report any instance of child abuse he discovered. This is the law, and the law doesn't care about how anyone feels, or if the abuser is a friend. Legally, Riley did not have the option to give Buttle the choice to end the relationship or turn himself in on his own. Similarly, Gruber did not have the choice but to fire Riley for failing to carry out his duty as a mandatory reporter.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Gruber took a lot of flak for firing Riley, who failed to report his fellow teacher's affair with a student. However, in having an affair with a student, Buttle was committing sexual abuse. Riley, as a teacher, was a mandatory reporter, required to report any instance of child abuse he discovered. This is the law, and the law doesn't care about how anyone feels, or if the abuser is a friend. Legally, Riley did not have the option to give Buttle the choice to end the relationship or turn himself in on his own. Failing to carry out his legal duty made Riley a criminal. Similarly, Gruber did not have the had no choice but to fire Riley for failing to carry out his duty as a mandatory reporter.
27th Jan '18 5:24:20 PM esq263
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Gruber took a lot of flak for firing Riley, who failed to report his fellow teacher's affair with a student. However, in having an affair with a student, Buttle was committing sexual abuse. Riley, as a teacher, was a mandatory reporter, required to report any instance of child abuse he discovered. This is the law, and the law doesn't care about how anyone feels, or if the abuser is a friend. Legally, Riley did not have the option to give Buttle the choice to end the relationship or turn himself in on his own. Similarly, Gruber did not have the choice but to fire Riley for failing to carry out his duty as a mandatory reporter.
29th Dec '17 11:23:13 AM nombretomado
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A comedy-drama series created by Creator/DavidEKelley and airing on {{FOX}}, ''Boston Public'' basically told the story of the TeenDrama from the point of view of the teachers. It took place in Winslow High, a public high school in Boston, hence the show's title. ''Boston Public'' was basically ''Degrassi'' [[AC: [[RecycledInSpace In America!]]]], except the teachers are the troubled ones.

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A comedy-drama series created by Creator/DavidEKelley and airing on {{FOX}}, {{Creator/FOX}}, ''Boston Public'' basically told the story of the TeenDrama from the point of view of the teachers. It took place in Winslow High, a public high school in Boston, hence the show's title. ''Boston Public'' was basically ''Degrassi'' [[AC: [[RecycledInSpace In America!]]]], except the teachers are the troubled ones.
29th Nov '17 6:09:20 PM lorgskyegon
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* RunningGag: InUniverse. The students have a joke to riotously cheer Harvey singing "If I Were a Rich Man" during assembly, despite his being bad at it. It's been going on for ''20 years'' and he has no clue, even refusing to believe a colleague when they told him.

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* RunningGag: InUniverse. The students have a joke to riotously cheer Harvey singing "If I Were a Rich Man" during assembly, the variety show, despite his being bad at it. It's been going on for ''20 years'' and he has no clue, even refusing to believe a colleague when they told him.
29th Nov '17 6:07:57 PM lorgskyegon
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* RunningGag: InUniverse. The students have a yearly pledge to riotously cheer Harvey singing the same song during assembly, despite his being bad at it.

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* RunningGag: InUniverse. The students have a yearly pledge a joke to riotously cheer Harvey singing the same song "If I Were a Rich Man" during assembly, despite his being bad at it.it. It's been going on for ''20 years'' and he has no clue, even refusing to believe a colleague when they told him.
29th Nov '17 2:36:15 PM lorgskyegon
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* RunningGag: InUniverse. The students have a yearly pledge to riotously cheer Harvey singing the same song during assembly, despite his being bad at it.
29th Nov '17 2:25:00 PM lorgskyegon
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* EpicFail: The student body gives the Teacher of the Year award to Guber in an attempt at BehavioralConditioning in order to get him to lighten up. The condition works but not as they want it. Instead of viewing it as negative punishment (removing their hatred in an attempt to get him to change his behavior) as the students intended, he views it as positive reinforcement (the students appreciated the job he was doing) and continued to act as before. They seem to not have learned from their parents not to reward unwanted behavior.
21st Sep '17 11:06:05 AM MrItty
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* BreakTheHaughty: This happens to Guber in a Season 1 episode. Guber orders Harvey to go see a doctor to ascertain his mental state. Later, he receives an invitation to conduct an orchestra, which requires him to drive for two hours to get to the symphony. Once Guber arrives at his destination, he's devastated to find out that the symphony doesn't exist. He returns to Winslow and goes on the warpath, searching for the one responsible for pranking him; he first suspects Harry, then a visiting Milton, and Lisa Greer. The true culprit is revealed to be Harvey, who conspired with his doctor to prank Guber. Guber is dumbfounded.

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* BreakTheHaughty: This happens to Guber in a Season 1 episode. Guber orders Harvey to go see a doctor to ascertain his mental state. Later, he receives an invitation to conduct an orchestra, which requires him to drive for two hours to get to the symphony. Once Guber arrives at his destination, he's devastated to find out that the symphony doesn't exist. He returns to Winslow and goes on the warpath, searching for the one responsible for pranking him; he first suspects Harry, then a visiting Milton, and Lisa Greer. The true culprit is revealed to be Harvey, who conspired with his doctor to prank Guber. Harvey. Guber is dumbfounded.dumbfounded.
-->'''Harvey''': I called my doctor. He asked me the date; I got it right. He asked if I changed my underwear; I told him every day. He asked if I ever drove an hour to stare at an empty lot under the delusions that I could conduct an orchestra. I said "Do I really look that crazy?"
-->'''Scott''': You?!
2nd Apr '17 5:15:51 PM DustSnitch
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* NapoleonDelusion: In the fourth season, a student gets electrocuted and believes he's {{Jesus}}.

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* NapoleonDelusion: In the fourth season, a student gets electrocuted and believes he's {{Jesus}}.UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}.
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