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* ArtisticLicenseLinguistics: Bruno discovered that the journalist "Juan de Marzo" (which is a pseudonym of an unknown journalist) is Lucia, because the name is a translation to Spanish of Jo March, a character of Lucia's favorite novel, ''Literature/LittleWomen''. Problem is, Jo is a shortened form of Josephine, not Joan. The journalist should have been called "José de Marzo" to use this explanation.
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* CommonTongue: Averted, in spades. We have Argentines who speak Spanish, Spaniards who speak Spanish, Spaniards from Catalonia who speak Catalan, Italians who speak Italian, Polish jews that speak in Polish, etc. But the series is made in Argentina, for an Argentine public, so everyone speaks Spanish, right? No! Many characters make full rants in foreign languages, which are not translated. This results in a blend of BilingualDialogue (we can infer what was said because of the other guy's answers), TranslatorBuddy ("he has just said that..."), YouNoTakeCandle (the foreign character tries to speak the common tongue, with very poor results), plain LanguageBarrier (the other guy simply does not understand a word that has been just said), etc.

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* CommonTongue: Averted, in spades. We have Argentines who speak Spanish, Spaniards who speak Spanish, Spaniards from Catalonia who speak Catalan, Italians who speak Italian, Polish jews Jews that speak in Polish, etc. But the series is made in Argentina, for an Argentine public, so everyone speaks Spanish, right? No! Many characters make full rants in foreign languages, which are not translated. This results in a blend of BilingualDialogue (we can infer what was said because of the other guy's answers), TranslatorBuddy ("he has just said that..."), YouNoTakeCandle (the foreign character tries to speak the common tongue, with very poor results), plain LanguageBarrier (the other guy simply does not understand a word that has been just said), etc.



* PersonaNonGrata: Trauman is a jew, and the jewish community knows it all about who he is and the things he does. They may not have the power for countering all the mafias and dirty cops that allow him to work, but they do something they can still do: have him shunned from the community, an outcast for any other jew.

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* PersonaNonGrata: Trauman is a jew, Jew, and the jewish Jewish community knows it all about who he is and the things he does. They may not have the power for countering all the mafias and dirty cops that allow him to work, but they do something they can still do: have him shunned from the community, an outcast for any other jew.Jew.
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* WarIsHell: Before the betrayal neither Torcuato nor Bruno enjoyed the war at all. Bruno was waiting for it to end and go back home to continue the family business, and Torcuato disliked it just as he disliked his pre-war life.
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"Argentina, tierra de amor y venganza" ("Argentina, land of love and vengueance") is a 2019 Argentine telenovela, starred by Benjamin Vicuña, Gonzalo Heredia, María Eugenia Suárez and others.

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"Argentina, tierra de amor y venganza" ("Argentina, land of love and vengueance") is a 2019 Argentine telenovela, starred by Benjamin Vicuña, Creator/BenjaminVicuna, Gonzalo Heredia, María Eugenia Suárez and others.

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* DistantPrologue: The first episode starts during the Spanish Civil War, when Torcuato betrayed Bruno, left him for dead on the battlefield, and took his fortune as his own. Some years later, Torcuato left war-torn Spain and settled in Argentina, where he became a powerful lord. Bruno is liberated from the prison where Franco's loyalists had him, tracks Torcuato to Argentina... and that's where the action begins.



** Ivonne is a manipulative woman that forces women into prostitution, but she worked hard to make money for her family from a young age, accidently liberated a prostitute and shows Raquel some kind of empathy, stopping Trauman from raping her.

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** Ivonne is a manipulative woman that forces women into prostitution, but she worked hard to make money for her family from a young age, accidently accidentally liberated a prostitute and shows Raquel some kind of empathy, stopping Trauman from raping her.
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* AbsurdlySpaciousSewer: There is a network of sewers below the city that the gang uses to go around the city.

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* AbsurdlySpaciousSewer: There is a network of sewers below the city that the gang uses to go around the city. There's enough space in it for several people walking side by side.
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* AbsurdlySpaciousSewer: There is a network of sewers below the city that the gang uses to go around the city.
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* AccidentalMisnaming: Alicia keeps called Francesca as "Francisca", even when everybody tells him that she got it wrong (and even if they told her just 15 seconds ago).

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* AccidentalMisnaming: Alicia keeps called Francesca as "Francisca", even when everybody tells him her that she got it wrong (and even if they told her just 15 seconds ago).

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* ItWillNeverCatchOn: Inverted in the finale. Trauman asks Raquel if she truly thinks that, say, a century in the future (meaning, roughly modern day) there won't still be brothels and Traumanes. And yes, there are. But Raquel answered that perhaps there will be, but there will also be women with rights opposing them. Women who will vote, who will have political and civil rights, who will even be in the Congress, in the Judiciary and even presidents, who will write books, who will write in the press... and if there are still brothels and Traumanes by then, it won't be so easy for them.

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* ItWillNeverCatchOn: ItWillNeverCatchOn
** The bad guys usually mock concepts like universal suffrage, women's suffrage and women's rights, which are commonplace nowadays but not back then.
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Inverted in the finale. Trauman asks Raquel if she truly thinks that, say, a century in the future (meaning, roughly modern day) modern-day) there won't still be brothels and Traumanes. And yes, there are. But Raquel answered that perhaps there will be, but there will also be women with rights opposing them. Women who will vote, who will have political and civil rights, who will even be in the Congress, in the Judiciary and even presidents, who will write books, who will write in the press... and if there are still brothels and Traumanes by then, it won't be so easy for them.



* ItWillNeverCatchOn: Women voting? Having jobs? Wearing trousers? Amusing ideas, Alicia, but now StayInTheKitchen!
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* WeddingsForEveryone: In the final episode, Raquel gets married with Also, in a Jewish wedding. And when they're done they move to a Christian church nearby, for the wedding of Bruno and Lucia. Then there is a shared party for both weddings.
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* ItWillNeverCatchOn: Inverted in the finale. Trauman asks Raquel if she truly thinks that, say, a century in the future (meaning, roughly modern day) there won't still be brothels and Traumanes. And yes, there are. But Raquel answered that perhaps there will be, but there will also be women with rights opposing them. Women who will vote, who will have political and civil rights, who will even be in the Congress, in the Judiciary and even presidents, who will write books, who will write in the press... and if there are still brothels and Traumanes by then, it won't be so easy for them.
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* TogetherInDeath: The police has captured [[spoiler:Torcuato and Alicia. There's no way out this time. There is too much proof of their crimes, and no money to bribe anyone. Torcuato drinks a poison to commit suicide, which he prefers to the prison. Alicia start giving him a passionate kiss... and gets poisoned as well.]]
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* TooDumbToLive: The refuge is swarming with Torcuato's and Trauman's hitmen, who want to kill everyone. Alambre shoots one of them down, and then walks casually and relaxed in the hall, boasting that he should be included in the band, as if the fight was over. Alas, it was not over, and Torcuato shot him down, killing him.

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* {{Gayngst}}: Malek and Libertad, who are understandably afraid of acknowledging their orientation considering how gay people was treated in that time.

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* {{Gayngst}}: Malek and Libertad, who are understandably afraid of acknowledging their orientation considering how gay people was treated in that time.time
* GetAHoldOfYourselfMan: Torcuato is acting as a madman, so that he's inside a bedlam house rather than a prison. Of course, he gets routine visits from therapists. One of them started asking about his father, that Torcuato hates... and he attacked him. There was a scandal, and once he was alone with Mercedes, she had to make things clear for him: he's not really crazy, he's only ''acting'', and shouldn't take the acting too far. Because dangerous madmen get another treatment: they get a straitjacket and are locked and forgotten in some hole somewhere, with no visits and no gifts from visits. Even actual prison time would be better than that.


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* InsanityDefense: When the crimes of Torcuato became clear, he acted as a rambling madman (and did so some days in advance), so he taken to a bedlam house rather than a prison.
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* ItsPersonal: Discussed. When Alfreda killed Basualdo, Trauman organized a big revenge, because he loved Basualdo like a son, and he was going to get married with his daughter Carmen... and then he was interrupted by Ivonne. She pointed that he's talking nonsenses, that he always treated Basualdo as dirt as he does with everyone else, and that the "marriage" was just another one of his crazy projects that he started while being drunk and that he would probably have stopped anyway before it could have gone too far. But Trauman insisted: it's personal because he ''needs'' it to be personal, because which is the point and the fun of avenging someone that he doesn't care about?
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* {Gayngst}: Malek and Libertad, who are understandably afraid of acknowledging their orientation considering how gay people was treated in that time.

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* {Gayngst}: {{Gayngst}}: Malek and Libertad, who are understandably afraid of acknowledging their orientation considering how gay people was treated in that time.
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* Gayngst: {Gayngst}: Malek and Libertad, who are understandably afraid of acknowledging their orientation considering how gay people was treated in that time.

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* Gaynst: Malek and Libertad, who are understandably afraid of acknowledging their orientation considering how gay people was treated in that time.

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* Gaynst: Gayngst: Malek and Libertad, who are understandably afraid of acknowledging their orientation considering how gay people was treated in that time.


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* IncurableCoughOfDeath: José Pablo used to cough all the time because of his Tuberculosis.
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** David is the Betty and Alí is the Veronica to Sara's archie.

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** David is the Betty and Alí is the Veronica to Sara's archie.Archie.
* CampGay: Paco Jamandreu who is a fashion designer and openly gay. Also Malek who likes fashion, listening radio theater and cinema.


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* Gaynst: Malek and Libertad, who are understandably afraid of acknowledging their orientation considering how gay people was treated in that time.
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* BettyAndVeronica: To Libertad eyes, Torcuato is the Betty and Bruno is the Veronica to Lucia's Archie.

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* BettyAndVeronica: To In Libertad eyes, Torcuato is the Betty and Bruno is the Veronica to Lucia's Archie.

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* BettyAndVeronica: To Libertad eyes, Torcuato is the Betty and Bruno is the Veronica to Lucia's Archie.
** Francesca is the Betty and Lucia is the Veronica to Bruno's Archie.
** David is the Betty and Alí is the Veronica to Sara's archie.



* [[FourPhilosophyEnsemble Five Philosophy Ensemble]]: The brothel girls. Raquel is the '''realist''', Dina is the '''optimist''', Helga is the '''cynic''', Edith is the '''conflicted''', and Ivonne is the '''apathetic'''.
* FourTemperamentEnsemble: Bruno and Francesca are '''melancholic''', Aldo is '''choleric''', Cordoba and Gallo are '''sanguine''', and David is '''phlematic'''.
** Toro was '''eclectic'''.



* TheMasochismTango: Torcuato and Agatha, they are constantly insulting and threatening each other, yet they cannot resist each other.. However their own pride brings out the worst part of them.

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* TheMasochismTango: Torcuato and Agatha, they are constantly insulting and threatening each other, yet they cannot resist each other..other. However their own pride brings out the worst part of them.
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** Also Rodolfo to Lucía.


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* TheMasochismTango: Torcuato and Agatha, they are constantly insulting and threatening each other, yet they cannot resist each other.. However their own pride brings out the worst part of them.


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* OutlawCouple: Agatha and Torcuato. Both of them orchestrated the kidnapping of their opponent's son. Later, Agatha tried to persuade Torcuato to become her partner in crime.
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* RevengeByProxy: Ingrid is stabbed by a henchman sent by Rosenstein's wife because he was killed by Trauman. It worth noting that Ingrid wasn't completely innocent since she helped her husband while he was in jail.

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* RevengeByProxy: Ingrid is stabbed by a henchman sent by Rosenstein's Roinstein's wife because he was killed by Trauman. It worth noting that Ingrid wasn't completely innocent since she helped her husband while he was in jail.
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* RevengeByProxy: Ingrid is stabbed by a henchman sent by Rosenstein's wife because he was killed by Trauman. It worth noting that Ingrid wasn't completely innocent since she helped her husband while he was in jail.
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* TheLostLenore: Toro became this for her fiancée Francesca. His death is the reason she joined the gang.

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* BackForTheDeath: [[spoiler: After returning from military service a few episodes ago, Nino is shot by one of Truman's henchmen.]]

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* BackForTheDeath: BackForTheDead: [[spoiler: After returning from military service a few episodes ago, Nino is shot by one of Truman's henchmen.]]



* DesignatedVillian: Played with Alicia. She takes on the role of Aldo and Raquel's antagonist, but mainly because she is in love with the former and, as the spoiled brat she is, she does not give up on him easily. However, she is also aware of many atrocities that her brother does, but she is fine with that as long as she maintains her upper class life.
** This is finally thrown out of the window after she captured Raquel and sent her back to the brothel.
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* BackForTheDeath: [[spoiler: After returning from military service a few episodes ago, Nino is shot by one of Truman's henchmen.]]


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* DesignatedVillian: Played with Alicia. She takes on the role of Aldo and Raquel's antagonist, but mainly because she is in love with the former and, as the spoiled brat she is, she does not give up on him easily. However, she is also aware of many atrocities that her brother does, but she is fine with that as long as she maintains her upper class life.
** This is finally thrown out of the window after she captured Raquel and sent her back to the brothel.
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* GoneHorriblyRight: Libertad got insane. Gabriel wanted to place her in a bedlam house, and Lucia to look after her at home, so Torcuato tried to get points by taking her at home. But now she's even more annoying than when she was sane, so Alicia starts complaining to Torcuato that he's pathetic by being so submissive. Initially he tried to explain himself, but as Alicia insisted... he pushed Libertad through the stairs, and told her to call Lucia and Gabriel and report the "tragic accident".
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* OpenSecret
** Initially, the "band" is just Córdoba and Gallo, and Bruno joins them when he finds about it, to redirect it from random robberies to robberies against Torcuato. Then, one by one everybody else in the conventillo find about it, with only Serafina being kept in the dark.
** When he was jailed, Trauman revealed that Ana's son is still alive, that he stole and sold him. He's willing to reveal his location, if Raquel dropped the charges against him. Everybody in the band knew it, but nobody told Ana: they were not sure if they could trust him, or if Trauman was simply trying to fool them, and did not want to give Ana false hopes. Of course, when she finds out, and then finds out that everybody knew already, she was ''angered''.
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* DeskSweepOfRage: Trauman gets out of prison and returns to the brothel, to find out that his wife had been killed by a rival mobster. He took his anger with everything lying over a furniture.

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