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28th Sep '16 2:59:30 PM Euodiachloris
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* Lord Petyr Baelish aka "Littlefinger" of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' is Schmuck Bait personified, as no matter how many times [[SelfProclaimedLiar he informs other characters]] of his being an untrustworthy liar either [[ILied quite directly]], through SarcasticConfession, by using paid proxies or just through pointing them at general gossip, they ''still'' manage to trust him. Or, at least, believe they can use him ''enough'' for ''this'', one, ''particular'' instance, even if they don't trust him in [[SleazyPolitician general terms]] or [[DevilInPlainSight think they are wise]] [[OpportunisticBastard to him]] and, therefore... safeish. The rational is usually that [[VetinariJoBSecurity he's good at his job]], [[LovableRogue amusing company]] and [[ApparentlyPowerlessPuppetmaster rather]] [[NotSoHarmlessVillain harmless]], or failing that, [[NonActionGuy is weak to physical threats]] and can be reined in later. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Very]] [[BestServedCold bad]] [[MagnificentBastard move]]. The list of people he's disarmed/ set-up by doing this to is steadily growing.
** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss the semi-habitable [[BigFancyCastle castle-complex]] that is [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot (there has been ''some'' change over time over the specifics) practically shine with promises of further political and social advancement, if you can play your cards right in the game of thrones. [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[{{Curse}} lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]]. Sure, it has ''a bit'' of a bad reputation and needs a lot of TLC, but... [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane it's just superstition]] and [[DIYDisaster nothing a bit of elbow grease won't fix]], [[TemptingFate right]]? Unlike most poor saps, however, Petyr's staying as far away as possible from the sodding thing while using his title's perks, given he sees it for [[WhiteElephant exactly what it is]]. He's even got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which one will win, or if they'll each manage to scupper each other. Or, worse, if they'll join baity forces, somehow.

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* Lord Petyr Baelish aka "Littlefinger" of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' is Schmuck Bait personified, as no matter how many times [[SelfProclaimedLiar he informs other characters]] of his being an untrustworthy liar either [[ILied quite directly]], through SarcasticConfession, by using paid proxies proxies, by dressing like one of the most blatantly indoorsy [[NonActionGuy clerks]] ever (a red flag in Westeros) or just through pointing them at general gossip, they ''still'' manage to trust him. Or, at least, believe they can use him ''enough'' for ''this'', one, ''particular'' instance, even if they don't trust him in [[SleazyPolitician general terms]] or [[DevilInPlainSight think they are wise]] [[OpportunisticBastard to him]] and, therefore... safeish. The rational is usually that [[VetinariJoBSecurity he's good at his job]], [[LovableRogue amusing company]] and [[ApparentlyPowerlessPuppetmaster rather]] [[NotSoHarmlessVillain harmless]], or failing that, [[NonActionGuy is weak to physical threats]] and can be reined in later. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Very]] [[BestServedCold bad]] [[MagnificentBastard move]]. The list of people he's disarmed/ set-up by doing this to is steadily growing.
** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss the semi-habitable very obviously only ''semi''-habitable [[BigFancyCastle castle-complex]] that is [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot (there has been ''some'' change over time over the specifics) practically shine with promises of further political and social advancement, if but only ''if'' you can play your cards right in the game of thrones. thrones -- and, you can, can't you, slugger? [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[{{Curse}} lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]], [[GhostStory lies]]. Sure, it has ''a bit'' of a bad widely broadcast (and very bad) reputation and needs a lot of TLC, but... [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane it's just superstition]] and [[DIYDisaster nothing a bit of elbow grease won't fix]], [[TemptingFate right]]? Unlike most poor saps, however, Petyr's staying as far away as possible from the sodding thing while using his title's perks, given he sees it for [[WhiteElephant exactly what it is]]. He's even got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which one will win, or if they'll each manage to scupper each other. Or, worse, if they'll join baity forces, somehow.
11th Jun '16 1:22:50 AM Euodiachloris
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** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot (there has been ''some'' change over time) practically shine with promises of further advancement, if can you play your cards right in the game of thrones. [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[{{Curse}} lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]]. Sure, it has ''a bit'' of a bad reputation, but... [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane it's just superstition]], [[TemptingFate right]]? Unlike most poor saps, however, Petyr's staying as far away as possible from the sodding thing while using his title's perks, given he sees it for [[WhiteElephant exactly what it is]]. He's even got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which one will win, or if they'll each manage to scupper each other. Or, worse, if they join baity forces somehow.

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** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss the semi-habitable [[BigFancyCastle castle-complex]] that is [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot (there has been ''some'' change over time) time over the specifics) practically shine with promises of further political and social advancement, if you can you play your cards right in the game of thrones. [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[{{Curse}} lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]]. Sure, it has ''a bit'' of a bad reputation, reputation and needs a lot of TLC, but... [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane it's just superstition]], superstition]] and [[DIYDisaster nothing a bit of elbow grease won't fix]], [[TemptingFate right]]? Unlike most poor saps, however, Petyr's staying as far away as possible from the sodding thing while using his title's perks, given he sees it for [[WhiteElephant exactly what it is]]. He's even got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which one will win, or if they'll each manage to scupper each other. Or, worse, if they they'll join baity forces forces, somehow.
7th Jun '16 12:31:17 PM Euodiachloris
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** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot (there has been ''some'' change over time) practically shine with promises of further advancement, if can you play your cards right in the game of thrones. [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[{{Curse}} lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]]. Sure, it has ''a bit'' of a bad reputation, but... [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane it's just superstition]], [[TemptingFate right]]? Unlike most poor saps, however, Petyr's staying as far away as possible from the sodding thing, given he sees it for exactly what it is. He's even got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which one will win, or if they'll manage to scupper each other.

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** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot (there has been ''some'' change over time) practically shine with promises of further advancement, if can you play your cards right in the game of thrones. [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[{{Curse}} lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]]. Sure, it has ''a bit'' of a bad reputation, but... [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane it's just superstition]], [[TemptingFate right]]? Unlike most poor saps, however, Petyr's staying as far away as possible from the sodding thing, thing while using his title's perks, given he sees it for [[WhiteElephant exactly what it is.is]]. He's even got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which one will win, or if they'll each manage to scupper each other.other. Or, worse, if they join baity forces somehow.
7th Jun '16 6:40:18 AM Euodiachloris
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** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot (there is some change over time) practically shine with promises of further advancement, if you play your cards right in the game of thrones. [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[{{Curse}} lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]]. Unlike most, however, he's staying as far away as possible from the thing, given he sees it for exactly what it is. He's got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which one will win, or if they'll manage to scupper each other.

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** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot (there is some has been ''some'' change over time) practically shine with promises of further advancement, if can you play your cards right in the game of thrones. [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[{{Curse}} lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]]. Sure, it has ''a bit'' of a bad reputation, but... [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane it's just superstition]], [[TemptingFate right]]? Unlike most, most poor saps, however, he's Petyr's staying as far away as possible from the sodding thing, given he sees it for exactly what it is. He's even got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which one will win, or if they'll manage to scupper each other.
7th Jun '16 5:24:09 AM Euodiachloris
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** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot practically shine with promises of further advancement, if you play your cards right in the game of thrones. [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[TheCurse lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]]. Unlike most, however, he's staying as far away as possible from the thing, given he sees it for what it is. He's got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which will win.

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** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot (there is some change over time) practically shine with promises of further advancement, if you play your cards right in the game of thrones. [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[TheCurse [[{{Curse}} lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]]. Unlike most, however, he's staying as far away as possible from the thing, given he sees it for exactly what it is. He's got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which one will win.win, or if they'll manage to scupper each other.
7th Jun '16 5:09:26 AM Euodiachloris
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** Speaking of Petyr, let's discuss [[AwesomeButImpractical Harrenhal]], the title to which he's managed to wrangle. It's humongous, the lands are great and the titles usually attached to the lot practically shine with promises of further advancement, if you play your cards right in the game of thrones. [[TheMillstone Lies]], [[TheCurse lies]], [[HauntedCastle lies]], [[HighTurnoverRate lies]]. Unlike most, however, he's staying as far away as possible from the thing, given he sees it for what it is. He's got wrecking balls in mind. We've yet to find out which will win.
3rd Feb '16 1:03:19 PM Euodiachloris
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* Lord Petyr Baelish aka "Littlefinger" of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' is Schmuck Bait personified, as no matter how many times [[SelfProclaimedLiar he informs other characters]] of his being an untrustworthy liar either [[ILied quite directly]], through SarcasticConfession, by using paid proxies or just through pointing them at general gossip, they ''still'' manage to trust him. Or, at least, believe they can use him ''enough'' for ''this'', one, ''particular'' instance, even if they don't trust him in [[SleazyPolitician general terms]] or [[DevilInPlainSight think they are wise]] [[OpportunisticBastard to him]] and, therefore... safeish. The rational is usually that [[VetinariJoBSecurity he's good at his job]] and [[ApparentlyPowerlessPuppetmaster rather]] [[NotSoHarmlessVillain harmless]], or failing that, [[NonActionGuy is weak to physical threats]] and can be reined in later. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Very]] [[BestServedCold bad]] [[MagnificentBastard move]]. The list of people he's disarmed/ set-up by doing this to is steadily growing.

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* Lord Petyr Baelish aka "Littlefinger" of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' is Schmuck Bait personified, as no matter how many times [[SelfProclaimedLiar he informs other characters]] of his being an untrustworthy liar either [[ILied quite directly]], through SarcasticConfession, by using paid proxies or just through pointing them at general gossip, they ''still'' manage to trust him. Or, at least, believe they can use him ''enough'' for ''this'', one, ''particular'' instance, even if they don't trust him in [[SleazyPolitician general terms]] or [[DevilInPlainSight think they are wise]] [[OpportunisticBastard to him]] and, therefore... safeish. The rational is usually that [[VetinariJoBSecurity he's good at his job]] job]], [[LovableRogue amusing company]] and [[ApparentlyPowerlessPuppetmaster rather]] [[NotSoHarmlessVillain harmless]], or failing that, [[NonActionGuy is weak to physical threats]] and can be reined in later. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Very]] [[BestServedCold bad]] [[MagnificentBastard move]]. The list of people he's disarmed/ set-up by doing this to is steadily growing.
14th Sep '15 3:34:28 AM Morgenthaler
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** In ''TheShadowOverInnsmouth'' the eponymous town's bad reputation is precisely the reason the narrator decides to visit.

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** In ''TheShadowOverInnsmouth'' ''Literature/TheShadowOverInnsmouth'' the eponymous town's bad reputation is precisely the reason the narrator decides to visit.
11th May '15 12:18:03 PM MechWarrior
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* Robert Evans gives a RealLife example in his autobiography ''The Kid Stays in the Picture'' in which he was offered pharmaceutical grade cocaine during the early 1980's, which he described was "mythical" at the time. [[TropeNamer He even]] ''[[TropeNamer labels]]'' [[TropeNamers it schmuck bait]], and castigates himself, "How could I be so ''fucking'' stupid?!"

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* Robert Evans gives a RealLife example in his autobiography ''The Kid Stays in the Picture'' in which he was offered pharmaceutical grade cocaine during the early 1980's, which he described was "mythical" at the time. [[TropeNamer [[TropeNamers He even]] ''[[TropeNamer ''[[TropeNamers labels]]'' [[TropeNamers it schmuck bait]], and castigates himself, "How could I be so ''fucking'' stupid?!"
6th May '15 9:38:58 AM LuciaMoore
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* ''Literature/ChooseYourOwnAdventure'' books had this often. Notable examples include chewing gum that just happens to be plastic explosive (which you learn only ''after'' you try to chew it), and jumping overboard on a ship in a theme park, only to learn that the water 30 feet below you is actually just concrete with a shimmering water-like effect.
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