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I am not gonna lie. This guy is probably the most complicated determination when it comes to moral agency. Is he in control of himself, or is the mushroom controlling him? If the latter then he would have moral agency issues... however, the more I thought about it, even if it is that the mushroom is controlling him, then that would mean that it is the mushroom we are focusing on for this entire proposal. In other words, it doesn't matter whether or not the man has moral agency issues here as the mushroom very much does. Hell. If it is Adler being controlled by the mushroom, then it means that the mushroom is piloting a corpse and using that to accomplish its goals. If Adler is in control and wants to spread the mushroom infection to others, then that means he was always that horrible. In either case, there is a clear moral agency (even if explaining it is complicated). For the sake of simplicity, we'll just say the mushroom is in control so that we can explain how it proves to have agency.

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I am not gonna lie. This guy is probably the most complicated determination when it comes to moral agency. Is he in control of himself, or is the mushroom controlling him? If the latter then he would have moral agency issues... however, the more I thought about it, even if it is that the mushroom is controlling him, then that would mean that it is the mushroom we are focusing on for this entire proposal. In other words, it doesn't matter whether or not the man has moral agency issues here as the mushroom very much does.displays a clear sense of morality. Hell. If it is Adler being controlled by the mushroom, then it means that the mushroom is piloting a corpse and using that to accomplish its goals. If Adler is in control and wants to spread the mushroom infection to others, then that means he was always that horrible. In either case, there is a clear moral agency (even if explaining it is complicated). For the sake of simplicity, we'll just say the mushroom is in control so that we can explain how it proves to have agency.
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''Webcomic/ClinicOfHorrors'' is a webcomic by Creator/{{Merrywetherey}} set in a CrapsackWorld with mutations galore. It focuses on a young ([[KnightInSourArmor and sour]]) nurse named Bianca who does what she can to help those in need alongside her boss, Dr. Albright.

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''Webcomic/ClinicOfHorrors'' is a webcomic by Creator/{{Merrywetherey}} Creator/{{Merryweatherey}} set in a CrapsackWorld with mutations galore. It focuses on a young ([[KnightInSourArmor and sour]]) nurse named Bianca who does what she can to help those in need alongside her boss, Dr. Albright.

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'''Who is Tyler Adler? What Does He Do?'''

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''Webcomic/ClinicOfHorrors'' is a webcomic by Creator/{{Merrywetherey}} set in a CrapsackWorld with mutations galore. It focuses on a young ([[KnightInSourArmor and sour]]) nurse named Bianca who does what she can to help those in need alongside her boss, Dr. Albright.

'''Who is Tyler Dr. Adler? What Does He Do?'''


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I am not gonna lie. This guy is probably the most complicated determination when it comes to moral agency. Is he in control of himself, or is the mushroom controlling him? If the latter then he would have moral agency issues... however, the more I thought about it, even if it is that the mushroom is controlling him, then that would mean that it is the mushroom we are focusing on for this entire proposal. In other words, it doesn't matter whether or not the man has moral agency issues here as the mushroom very much does. Hell. If it is Adler being controlled by the mushroom, then it means that the mushroom is piloting a corpse and using that to accomplish its goals. If Adler is in control and wants to spread the mushroom infection to others, then that means he was always that horrible. In either case, there is a clear moral agency (even if explaining it is complicated). For the sake of simplicity, we'll just say the mushroom is in control so that we can explain how it proves to have agency.

First off, Adler's introduction has him present himself as a friendly man who even claims his mushroom is harmless. He ends up being loved by the whole school except for Bianca and Michaelis who figure out right away he is a BitchInSheepsClothing. He also shows to be aware of public opinion on mutations to where he killed some trash blobs (who were Bianca's friends) claiming them to be dangerous. This proves himself to very much be a {{hypocrite}} as he proves a whole lot more dangerous due to being a parasitic spore that infects the entire school.

Then there is the fact that he tries to claim himself to be a WellIntentionedExtremist. Let me tell ya, it becomes clear he is full of himself as not only does he have a VillainousBreakdown when Bianca cures everyone, but the fact he boasts about his HiveMind in season 2 and how much he enjoyed forcing everybody to share a single mind, that proves [[ItsAllAboutMe he only cares for himself]]. Then there is how he even has Michaelis, who is possibly the nicest character in the series, as a dangerous monster who needs to be dealt with simply because he is a mutation. He also doesn't show any signs of gratitude toward Mister Yellow saving him, instead focusing on wanting revenge on Bianca for ruining his plans. So let's recap. Feigns goodness, BoomerangBigot, NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist, and only looking out for himself. All these ordeal make it clear to me that no matter who is in control, the one in control very much has moral agency.


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When it comes down to it, Mister Yellow is the big bad of the franchise. The franchise is still going though, so there is always the chance of Mister Yellow proving himself to be worse than Adler in some way... That being said, Mister Yellow is also a CorruptCorporateExecutive who has a monopoly on all pharmaceutical companies and every other antagonistic character (Adler included) under his employment. It is clear that Mister Yellow has WAY higher resources than Adler. This is made especially clear with his plan in which Mister Yellow is able to reach a worldwide scale in contrast to Adler who only had the resources to take over a school. Even then, Adler makes it clear that he wanted to spread his infection across the entire world (which meant he effectively wanted a zombie apocalypse that he was in control of). So regardless on if Mister Yellow proves worse, Adler's lower resources means he very much stands out... and with him confirmed dead now, safe to say his position in the standards will stick.

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'''Note: This one is on hold until after Clinic of Horrors continues, as there may be something that changes with him.'''
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[[folder:Don Weaso]]

Alright. After looking over a classic favorite of mine, I realized this guy might be the most wicked character in the game (and considering how bad most of the cast is with only one character with nothing malicious to him, that's saying a lot).

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[[folder:Don Weaso]]

Alright. After looking over
I have been waiting to do this for a classic favorite of mine, I realized while. With this guy might be the most wicked character being KilledOffForReal in the game (and considering how bad most of the cast recent chapters, it is with only one character with nothing malicious safe to him, that's saying a lot).
say that he's done now.



''VideoGame/ConkersBadFurDay'' is possibly the most vulgar game ever made by Rare, and boy howdy did it become a cult hit. It stars an alcoholic squirrel who gets lost in a meadow and has to find his way home... only to get distracted by his own greed. There is also a panther that wants to use him to hold his table up.

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''VideoGame/ConkersBadFurDay'' is possibly the most vulgar game ever made by Rare, and boy howdy did it become a cult hit. It stars an alcoholic squirrel who gets lost in a meadow and has to find his way home... only to get distracted by his own greed. There is also a panther that wants to use him to hold his table up.

'''Who Is Don Weaso? is Tyler Adler? What Does He Do?'''



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Alright. After looking over a classic favorite of mine, I realized this guy might be the most wicked character in the game (and considering how bad most of the cast is with only one character with nothing malicious to him, that's saying a lot).

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''VideoGame/ConkersBadFurDay'' is possibly the most vulgar game ever made by Rare, and boy howdy did it become a cult hit. It stars an alcoholic squirrel who gets lost in a meadow and has to find his way home... only to get distracted by his own greed. There is also a panther that wants to use him to hold his table up.

'''Who Is Don Weaso? What Does He Do?'''

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Alright. After looking over a classic favorite of mine, I realized this guy might be the most wicked character in the game (and considering how bad most of the cast is with only one character with nothing malicious to him, that's saying a lot).

'''What's the Work?'''

''VideoGame/ConkersBadFurDay'' is possibly the most vulgar game ever made by Rare, and boy howdy did it become a cult hit. It stars an alcoholic squirrel who gets lost in a meadow and has to find his way home... only to get distracted by his own greed. There is also a panther that wants to use him to hold his table up.

'''Who Is Don Weaso? What Does He Do?'''

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%%It took a bit longer than I had hoped to get this out, but it is here now. Of course, I can't take all the credit. For this proposal, I got a little help from Tropers/{{Bullman}}.

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%%It It took a bit longer than I had hoped to get this out, but it is here now. Of course, I can't take all have also agreed to let Tropers/{{Bullman}} do the credit. For write up for this proposal, character afterward. Prolly better that way as I got a little help from Tropers/{{Bullman}}.
might not find the time to get that done myself.



Long ago, Garraka was summoned by a greedy king who wished to rule over a land. With Garraka's help, the king was able to succeed in taking control. However, Garraka's actions made the king realize it would only be a matter of time before Garraka's power would be used against him, so he ripped Garraka's horns off in an attempt to depower the beast. Angered by this betrayal, Garraka swore to freeze over all of humanity and he showed to still be very powerful as he laid waste to a lost of the land he helped conquer. This eventually led to him being sealed away where he was safely locked away by the flame masters.

In the current day, the last of the Flame Masters (who doesn't even know of his heritage), finds the orb that Garraka is imprisoned in and decides to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom sell it for some quick money]].

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Long ago, Garraka was summoned by a greedy king who wished to rule over a land. With Garraka's help, the king was able to succeed in taking control. However, Garraka's actions made the king realize it would only be a matter of time before Garraka's power would be used against him, so he ripped Garraka's horns off in an attempt to depower the beast. Angered by this betrayal, Garraka swore to freeze over all of humanity to death and he showed to still be very powerful even without his horns as he laid waste to a lost lot of the land he helped conquer. This eventually led to him being sealed away where he was safely locked away by the flame masters.

In the current day, the last of the Flame Masters (who doesn't even know of his heritage), finds the orb that Garraka is imprisoned in and decides to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom sell it for some quick money]].
money]]. This proves to be a big mistake as thanks to the orb no longer being in the tomb, Garraka's power begins to [[LeakingCanOfEvil leak out and cause mayhem]]. Garraka even frees the Possessor who starts causing chaos and even attempts to get a tape to free Garraka. When that fails, Garraka manipulates a ghost girl named Melody, claiming he can help her pass on and reunite with her family in the afterlife (he actually can't as later pointed out, thus he is lying).

With this, he gets Melody to trick Phoebe into separating her spirit from her body, allowing him to possess her and force her to say the incantation, freeing him from his prison. Afterward, he immediately hunts down the last flame master. He ends up getting the wrong guy, but he still kills the poor fella in a very gruesome manner. After that, he heads toward the ghostbusters base to free all of the ghosts they had imprisoned in order to form an army to wipe out all of humanity.

While Melody continues to help him as she believes he will help her, Phoebe convinces her that she has to help herself and not rely on Garraka. Not that it matters, as Garraka manages to break the container and freeze the entire ghostbusters crew... [[NearVillainVictory even if only temporary]]. Taking Phoebe's words to heart, Melody manages to light a match which she uses to help Nadeem use his fire powers to turn the tables on Garraka, even saving the ghostbusters from freezing to death. Of course, with a monster as powerful as Garraka, they needed a prison that was equally powerful to hold him. Fortunately, [[NiceJobFixingItVillain Garraka ended up providing up due to his freeing of the ghost]], making the old ghost chamber vacant enough to hold him.

And thus, Garraka is imprisoned once more. Hopefully for good.

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%%It took a bit longer than I had hoped to get this out, but it is here now. Of course, I can't take all the credit. For this proposal, I got a little help from Tropers/{{Bullman}}.



Long ago, Garraka was summoned by a greedy king who wished to rule over a land. With Garraka's help, the king was able to succeed in taking control. However, Garraka's actions made the king realize it would only be a matter of time before Garraka's power would be used against him, so he ripped Garraka's horns off in an attempt to depower the beast. Angered by this betrayal, Garraka swore to freeze over all of humanity and he showed to still be very powerful as he laid waste to a lost of the land he helped conquer. This eventually led to him being sealed away.

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Long ago, Garraka was summoned by a greedy king who wished to rule over a land. With Garraka's help, the king was able to succeed in taking control. However, Garraka's actions made the king realize it would only be a matter of time before Garraka's power would be used against him, so he ripped Garraka's horns off in an attempt to depower the beast. Angered by this betrayal, Garraka swore to freeze over all of humanity and he showed to still be very powerful as he laid waste to a lost of the land he helped conquer. This eventually led to him being sealed away.
away where he was safely locked away by the flame masters.

In the current day, the last of the Flame Masters (who doesn't even know of his heritage), finds the orb that Garraka is imprisoned in and decides to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom sell it for some quick money]].
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Is Garraka MadeOfEvil? Honestly, nothing that I saw indicated Garraka to genuinely being incapable of doing but evil (one hero calling him an embodiment of evil isn't enough to say he is made of evil as said character was clearly stating it because of how horrible Garraka is). His backstory doesn't say he is made of evil either.

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Is Garraka MadeOfEvil? Honestly, nothing that I saw indicated Garraka to genuinely being incapable of doing anything but evil (one hero calling him an embodiment of evil isn't enough to say he is made of evil as said character was clearly stating it because of how horrible Garraka is). His backstory doesn't say he is made of evil either.

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Long ago, Garraka was summoned by a greedy king who wished to rule over a land. With Garraka's help, the king was able to succeed in taking control. However, Garraka's actions made the king realize it would only be a matter of time before Garraka's power would be used against him, so he ripped Garraka's horns off in an attempt to depower the beast. Angered by this betrayal, Garraka swore to freeze over all of humanity and he showed to still be very powerful as he laid waste to a lost of the land he helped conquer. This eventually led to him being sealed away.



Does Garraka display any redeeming qualities? Nope! The dude lies to Melody that he would help her reunite with her family (which as Phoebe rightfully points out, he can't and that Melody has to do that herself). He also clearly doesn't care for any other ghosts as it is made clear through how he controls Phoebe's spirit that ghosts aren't obeying him willingly, he is forcing them to bend to his whims.

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Does Garraka display any redeeming qualities? Nope! The dude lies to Melody that he would help her reunite with her family (which as Phoebe rightfully points out, he can't and that Melody has to do that herself). He also clearly doesn't care for any other ghosts as it is made clear through how he controls Phoebe's spirit that ghosts aren't obeying him willingly, he is forcing them to bend to his whims.
whims. Alright, You guys might be thinking "But he was betrayed, wasn't he? That means he has a freudian excuse." Here's the thing. The king's reason for betraying him didn't stem from [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer needing him]], but actually fearing his power showing that even the king realized he was playing with fire. Not just that, but Garraka had initially helped said king in conquering lands which definitely lead to death due to his powers. In other words, Garraka was already evil before this betrayal. Also his desire to kill all humans is due to [[DisproportionateRetribution one human betraying him]] for somewhat understandable reasons (I say somewhat because the dude should have realized beforehand that summoning a power and dangerous entity was a bad idea).
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Not just that, but while both intended to kill all of humanity, Gozer opted to have humanity decide how they would die (which ended up being Stay Puft Marshmallow man thanks to Ray) and made intent of just quickly killing them in Afterlife. Garraka, on the other hand, had full intent on freezing all of humanity to death and is even actually shown killing people (even if Gozer is an OmnicidalManiac, I don't recall any onscreen deaths caused by Gozer directly).

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Not just that, but while both intended to kill all of humanity, Gozer opted to have humanity decide how they would die (which ended up being Stay Puft Marshmallow man thanks to Ray) and made intent of just quickly killing them in Afterlife. Garraka, on the other hand, had full intent on [[KillItWithIce freezing all of humanity to death death]] and is even actually shown killing people (even if Gozer is an OmnicidalManiac, I don't recall any onscreen deaths caused by Gozer directly).
directly aside from Egon and Ivo Shandor in Afterlife, and even then that is two deaths compared to the much higher number that Garraka is shown onscreen to do).
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Got another Genshin proposal.

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Got another Genshin proposal.
[[folder:Garraka (two-week period)]]

Who you gonna call?

'''What's The Work?'''

''Film/GhostbustersFrozenEmpire'' is a sequel to ''Film/GhostbustersAfterlife'' and the fourth entry in the original continuity that focuses on the new generation team trying to get settled into their role as ghostbusters while having to deal with a dangerous evil alongside the original group.

'''Who is Garraka? What Does He Do?'''

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You know what is necessary. We can't say right away that Garraka truly stands out without comparing him to, who else, Gozer. In terms of resources and intentions, the two are pretty similar. Both are powerful godlike supernatural evil beings, both had full intention on [[OmnicidalManiac wiping out all of humanity]], and both possess people in order to break free of their prisons. So it seems like Garraka is just like Gozer in resources and actions, right (with potential argument of Garraka having a little more resources)? Well, the key difference between them is methods. Gozer had to rely on its underlings Zuul and Vinz to possess two mortal beings to free them. Garraka had to manipulate a ghost into befriending a human and tricking said human into separating their soul from their body so that he could possess them into chanting the incantation to release him.

Not just that, but while both intended to kill all of humanity, Gozer opted to have humanity decide how they would die (which ended up being Stay Puft Marshmallow man thanks to Ray) and made intent of just quickly killing them in Afterlife. Garraka, on the other hand, had full intent on freezing all of humanity to death and is even actually shown killing people (even if Gozer is an OmnicidalManiac, I don't recall any onscreen deaths caused by Gozer directly).

We even get an onscreen backstory for Garraka. It's in a book presented to the heroes, but said backstory is in murals that give a good detail on his actions in the past. As such, Garraka very much stands out in my opinion.

'''Mitigating Factors'''

Does Garraka display any redeeming qualities? Nope! The dude lies to Melody that he would help her reunite with her family (which as Phoebe rightfully points out, he can't and that Melody has to do that herself). He also clearly doesn't care for any other ghosts as it is made clear through how he controls Phoebe's spirit that ghosts aren't obeying him willingly, he is forcing them to bend to his whims.

Is Garraka too comedic? Nope! I'll be honest here. None of Garraka's appearances are played for laughs in any way. Him mistaking a drug store owner for the Flame Master is also played for horror as he is quick to kill the poor fella before moving on. Nothing funny about this guy. Actions are completely serious.

Is Garraka MadeOfEvil? Honestly, nothing that I saw indicated Garraka to genuinely being incapable of doing but evil (one hero calling him an embodiment of evil isn't enough to say he is made of evil as said character was clearly stating it because of how horrible Garraka is). His backstory doesn't say he is made of evil either.

So no redeeming qualities, no moral agency issues, and all humor is dropped whenever he is present to show how serious he is.


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Had to propose this guy after seeing this movie.



''VideoGame/GenshinImpact'' is a game by Hoyoverse. It follows a Traveler trying to save their sibling.

'''Who is Dougier? What Does He Do?'''

Okay. So Fontaine has a serious justice system. Those who are convicted are sent to the Fortress of Meropede. There, they can work on atoning for their crimes and hopefully turn over a new leaf... well Dougier is not like that. He is in the fortress (for crimes we don't know but aren't relevent to this EP), yet he chooses to secretly plot to take control rather than learn the error of his ways.

To start, he discovers a liquified fear which he takes advantage of to inject into other inmates, forcing them to obey him without question. After getting enough victims, he has them form the Beret Society. The rules are as follows. Members are not allowed to talk with eachother without formal permission. Members are not allowed to leave without formal permission. Members are put in groups of five, and if even on member in the group breaks a rule, all members of the group are punished (it should be noted that the first rule still applies here, meaning groups can't even interact with their own teammates). He also starves his unwilling followers and makes it where the only way to get food is to sell out their fellow members.

These rules were so strict that anybody unfortunate enough to fall into Dougier's clutches eventually become so broken that they give up hope of ever being free and become resigned to their fate as his slaves.

Of course, the Duke of the Fortress, Wriothesley, realizes that something is up and sets up a plan to discover what Dougier is up to, even getting the help of the Traveler.

They eventually discover Dougier's secret base with the help of two Beret Society members. Dougier, realizing those two had been secretly working against him, prepared to have them punished in front of the rest of the society. He wasn't going to punish them himself though, he opted to force them to punish eachother against their will.

Before he can, Wriothesley arrives to deliver justice. Dougier tells him that all those in the fortress are complete monsters (even [[CardCarryingVillain establishing himself as being included]]) who deserve to be punished, claiming that he should be allow to have the luxury that Wriothesley has as he accuses Wriothesley of not caring for the inmates anymore than he does.

Wriothesley effortlessly rebukes his claims one after another, prompting Dougier to summon some Gardemeks he stole against the Duke and the Traveler. When that fails, he attempts to shoot Wriothesley, [[ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy failing miserably]]. He then turns his gun to the Traveler, prompting Wriothesley to apprehend him.

Dougier attempts to use the rules of the fortress to keep Wriothesley from punishing him by claiming that unauthorized punishment is against the rules, [[{{Hypocrite}} despite having been doing exactly that himself]]. Wriothesley ones again shuts this down by telling Dougier that as the duke of the fortress, he could kill him if he really wanted to.

Of course, Wriothesley opts to do nothing as he feels leaving Dougier in constant fear of his impending punishment at either Wriothesley's hands or the hands of his angry former followers is much more fitting than killing him. Basically, Wriothesley inflicts a karmic CruelMercy on Dougier by putting him in a FateWorseThanDeath.

'''Mitigating Factors'''

When he first appears, Dougier presents himself as a nice guy. However, it's made clear he is actually a FauxAffablyEvil BitchInSheepsClothing who takes sadistic pleasure in torturing others.

He is also a massive {{hypocrite}} as he attempts to justify his actions by claiming everybody in the Fortress of Meropede are convicted criminals who are BeyondRedemption. Not only is that not true on account of how a majority of the inmates there are actually putting an effort to reform, but Wriothesley himself was once an inmate for killing his foster parent (with actual justification due to said fosters selling kids to slave labor and killing and that don't meet their expectations or find out what they are doing) as well as the fact that due to Dougier being an inmate himself, said logic applies to him too.

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''VideoGame/GenshinImpact'' ''Film/Missing2023'' is a game by Hoyoverse. It follows movie that is viewed through a Traveler trying computer perspective about a girl doing what she can to save their sibling.

find her Mom after she doesn't return home.

'''Who is Dougier? James Walker? What Does Did He Do?'''

Okay. So Fontaine ''Getting to that''

'''Redeeming Qualities'''

He could have possibly loved his daughter when she was a kid, but there isn't anything indicating that was truly the case considering how hostile he became when Grace
has a serious justice system. Those who are convicted are sent to June leave the Fortress room out of Meropede. There, they can work on atoning for their crimes and hopefully turn over a new leaf... well Dougier is not like that. He is in concern regarding James's drug dealing. Even if he did, the fortress (for crimes we don't know but aren't relevent to this EP), yet he chooses to secretly plot to take control rather than learn the error of his ways.

To start, he discovers a liquified fear which he takes advantage of to inject into other inmates, forcing them to obey him without question. After getting enough victims,
actions he has them form the Beret Society. The rules are as follows. Members with Grown up June are not allowed to talk with eachother without formal permission. Members are not allowed to leave without formal permission. Members are put in groups of five, and if even on member love in the group breaks a rule, all members of the group are punished (it should be noted that the first rule still applies here, meaning groups can't slightest, and instead have him come off as possessive. He even interact with their own teammates). He also starves threatens to kill her when she resists (which prompts Grace to go all MamaBear on his unwilling followers and makes it where the only way to get food is to sell out their fellow members.

These rules were so strict that anybody unfortunate enough to fall into Dougier's clutches eventually become so broken that they give up hope of ever being free and become resigned to their fate as his slaves.

Of course, the Duke of the Fortress, Wriothesley, realizes that something is up and sets up a plan to discover
ass). When you consider what Dougier is up to, even getting the help of the Traveler.

They eventually discover Dougier's secret base with the help of two Beret Society members. Dougier, realizing those two had been secretly working against him, prepared to have them punished in front of the rest of the society. He wasn't going to punish them himself though, he opted to force them to punish eachother against their will.

Before he can, Wriothesley arrives to deliver justice. Dougier tells him that
all those in the fortress are complete monsters (even [[CardCarryingVillain establishing himself as being included]]) who deserve to be punished, claiming that he should be allow to have the luxury that Wriothesley has as he accuses Wriothesley of not caring for the inmates anymore than he does.

Wriothesley effortlessly rebukes his claims one after another, prompting Dougier to summon some Gardemeks he stole against the Duke and the Traveler. When that fails, he attempts to shoot Wriothesley, [[ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy failing miserably]]. He then turns his gun to the Traveler, prompting Wriothesley to apprehend him.

Dougier attempts to use the rules of the fortress
Grace did to keep Wriothesley him from punishing him by claiming that unauthorized punishment is against the rules, [[{{Hypocrite}} despite having finding them, Grace would not have been doing exactly that himself]]. Wriothesley ones again shuts this down by telling Dougier that as the duke of the fortress, he could kill him if he really wanted to.

Of course, Wriothesley opts to do nothing as he feels leaving Dougier in constant fear of his impending punishment at either Wriothesley's hands or the hands of his angry former followers is much more fitting than killing him. Basically, Wriothesley inflicts a karmic CruelMercy on Dougier by putting him in a FateWorseThanDeath.

'''Mitigating Factors'''

When he first appears, Dougier presents himself as a nice guy. However, it's made clear he is actually a FauxAffablyEvil BitchInSheepsClothing who takes sadistic pleasure in torturing others.

He is also a massive {{hypocrite}} as he attempts to justify his actions by claiming everybody in the Fortress of Meropede are convicted criminals who are BeyondRedemption. Not only is that not true on account of how a majority of the inmates there are actually putting an effort to reform, but Wriothesley himself was once an inmate for killing his foster parent (with actual justification due to said fosters selling kids to slave labor and killing and that don't meet their expectations or find out what they are doing) as well as the fact that due to Dougier being an inmate himself, said logic applies to him too.
okay with him.



Alright. Let's take a look at past approved and one that could have been CM if not for one prevention. Azar and Takayuki are both people in power who take advantage of their archons to have total control over their respective nations. They have pretty high resources because of that.

Nathan's resources are not quite at that level as he is a Fatui mook, but still had the backing of a Harbinger like those two did, and used those resources to poison people of Inazuma.

Babel (whom I proposed and got approved before) doesn't even have Harbinger assistance in her goals with only her small tribe whom she manipulates, has killed, and [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder betrays constantly]] while also expressing intent on overthrowing the Dendro Archon with the power that she used Jeht to acquire.

Marcel (who can't be CM due to having a tragedy that just barely holds) has even less resources than Babel as he has a small business with fewer followers whom he too is willing to throw under the bus and plenty of Gardemeks, and he has a kill count of at least 26.

Notice the pattern? Now we talk about where Dougier stands on the resource level. Basically, all he has is the liquified fear and not even close to having as many Gardemeks as Marcel. In fact, unlike Marcel who legit own the Gardemeks from what I can tell, it is basically stated that what Gardemeks Dougier has were stolen, which I feel slightly lessens how much they count as one's own resource. He also has [[ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy no gun proficiency]] as shown when he can't even shoot Wriothesly who isn't even dodging. As such, I am pretty certain that Dougier's resources are as low as we could possibly get here. I don't think we are getting any lower.

As for what he does with the resources he does have, he used the liquified fear to force many people into following him which is basically slavery, he forces them to not interact with one another, deprives them of nuitrition and essentially starving them to death, and only rewards them when they rat on their fellow Beret members. He even punishes those who don't follow his rules or attempt to tell Wriothesley by torturing them or forcing other members to torture them (particularly members that they may have bonded with). The guy takes absolute pleasure in making his unwilling followers suffer, which I feel allows him to barely meet the standards.

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Alright. Let's take a look at past approved and one that could have been CM if not for one prevention. Azar and Takayuki are both people in power who take advantage of their archons to have total control over their respective nations. They have pretty high resources because of that.

Nathan's resources are not quite at that level as he is a Fatui mook, but still had the backing of a Harbinger like those two did, and used those resources to poison people of Inazuma.

Babel (whom I proposed and got approved before) doesn't even have Harbinger assistance in her goals with only her small tribe whom she manipulates, has killed, and [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder betrays constantly]] while also expressing intent on overthrowing the Dendro Archon with the power that she used Jeht to acquire.

Marcel (who can't be CM due to having a tragedy that just barely holds) has even less resources than Babel as he has a small business with fewer followers whom he too is willing to throw under the bus and plenty of Gardemeks, and he has a kill count of at least 26.

Notice the pattern? Now we talk about where Dougier stands on the resource level. Basically, all he has is the liquified fear and not even close to having as many Gardemeks as Marcel. In fact, unlike Marcel who legit own the Gardemeks from what I can tell, it is basically stated that what Gardemeks Dougier has were stolen, which I feel slightly lessens how much they count as one's own resource. He also has [[ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy no gun proficiency]] as shown when he can't even shoot Wriothesly who isn't even dodging. As such, I am pretty certain that Dougier's resources are as low as we could possibly get here. I don't think we are getting any lower.

As for what he does with the resources he does have, he used the liquified fear to force many people into following him which is basically slavery, he forces them to not interact with one another, deprives them of nuitrition and essentially starving them to death, and only rewards them when they rat on their fellow Beret members. He even punishes those who don't follow his rules or attempt to tell Wriothesley by torturing them or forcing other members to torture them (particularly members that they may have bonded with). The guy takes absolute pleasure in making his unwilling followers suffer, which I feel allows him to barely meet the standards.
''Coming Soon''



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[[folder:James Allen (Missing)]]

Had to propose this guy after seeing this movie.

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[[folder:James Allen (Missing)]]

Had to propose
[[folder:Axel Gear]]

Looking back, I realized just how heartless
this guy after seeing this movie.
character is.



''Film/Missing2023'' is a movie that is viewed through a computer perspective about a girl doing what she can to find her Mom after she doesn't return home.

'''Who is James Allen? What Did He Do?'''

''Getting to that''

'''Redeeming Qualities'''

He could have possibly loved his daughter when she was a kid, but there isn't anything indicating that was truly the case considering how hostile he became when Grace has June leave the room out of concern regarding James's drug dealing. Even if he did, the actions he has with Grown up June are not love in the slightest, and instead have him come off as possessive. He even threatens to kill her when she resists (which prompts Grace to go all MamaBear on his ass). When you consider what all Grace did to keep him from finding them, Grace would not have been okay with him.

'''Heinousness Standards'''

''Coming Soon''
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[[folder:Axel Gear]]

Looking back, I realized just how heartless this character is.

'''What's the Work?'''
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''VideoGame/RocketKnightAdventures'' is a video game series that started on the Sega Genesis with a sequel on the same system, another sequel (that is supposedly a different continuity) on the Super Nintendo, and another sequel on Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. It stars an oppossum named Sparkster who does what he can to protect the Kingdom of Zebulos from those who threaten it.

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''VideoGame/RocketKnightAdventures'' is a video game series that started on the Sega Genesis with a sequel on the same system, another sequel (that is supposedly a different continuity) on the Super Nintendo, and another sequel on Xbox 360, PS3, [=PS3=], and PC. It stars an oppossum named Sparkster who does what he can to protect the Kingdom of Zebulos from those who threaten it.

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[[folder:Black Dahlia]]
'''Note: I am going to wait until Marie is released before proposing Dahlia.'''

Gonna propose a Skullgirls character.

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[[folder:Black Dahlia]]
'''Note:
[[folder:Axel Gear]]

Looking back,
I am going to wait until Marie is released before proposing Dahlia.'''

Gonna propose a Skullgirls character.
realized just how heartless this character is.



Skullgirls is a fighting game with a story around a macguffin known as the Skull Heart which has the power to grant the wish of those who acquire it... HA! No. It completely twists the wish and turns the user into a monster known as the Skullgirl. The current Skullgirl being Marie.

'''Who is Black Dahlia? What Did She Do?'''

Black Dahlia is an enforcer for Lorenzo Medici. She takes great pleasure in [[BloodKnight committing violence and killing]].

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Skullgirls ''VideoGame/RocketKnightAdventures'' is a fighting video game series that started on the Sega Genesis with a story around a macguffin known as sequel on the Skull Heart which has same system, another sequel (that is supposedly a different continuity) on the power Super Nintendo, and another sequel on Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. It stars an oppossum named Sparkster who does what he can to grant protect the wish Kingdom of Zebulos from those who acquire it... HA! No. It completely twists the wish and turns the user into a monster known as the Skullgirl. The current Skullgirl being Marie.

threaten it.

'''Who is Black Dahlia? Axel Gear? What Did She Do?'''

Black Dahlia is an enforcer for Lorenzo Medici. She takes great pleasure in [[BloodKnight committing violence and killing]].
Does He Do?'''



Now her folder has both AffablyEvil and FauxAffablyEvil stating that she straddles the line between the two by congratulating those who beat her along with being "genuinely" friendly with certain opponents... Just how genuine is that exactly? It seems to me that her mentorly angle toward Cerebella is actually just her way of trying to shape Cerebella into what she wants. Given she has Cerebella apprehended in her story to be broken, this isn't just fridge horror. And her whole "girl's night" with Eliza? Tell me. What exactly does she do to Eliza after beating her? Oh right! She had her burned to a crisp. And I'm sorry, but we have had too many villains that have done the "join me" bit for me to believe that her making such an offer to Valentine is meant to have her come off as affable.

Now you may be wondering "What about her defeat quotes? She is congratulating them!" True, she does congratulate them, but consider this. She is a CombatSadomasochist. She actually doesn't care whether she wins or loses. Her congratulatory quotes aren't out of respect for her opponents power, but her enjoyment of her own suffering.

She also doesn't care for her own bunny girls as she [[BadBoss threatens to kill one of them]] after she kills Lorenzo. And her anger over Brain Drain killing Ms. Fortune? That anger was because she wanted to sadistically torture Nadia and not out of caring for her. She became furious, because Brain Drain denied her the pleasure of putting poor Nadia in a fate worse than death.

And before anybody says "She didn't intend to cause many people to become the skullgirl", even if that is the case, it doesn't change the fact that she was responsible for them going down that path. Not to mention it is made clear that she doesn't care whether she was responsible or not for the birth of new skullgirls. To her, these skullgirls are just cannon fodder and the lives she ruined [[ButForMeItWasTuesday are just another day for her]].

And just so we are clear, Dahlia is not one of the characters who is played for laughs. She is taken very seriously.

I should also point out that personality traits are always consistent in every character's story. This means that even events that are established to not be canon can still very much happen at a character's hand if they get that opportunity.

'''Heinousness Standard'''

Skullgirls has a lot of characters that are wicked including Double and Eliza. However, I feel Dahlia does a whole lot worse than either of them, and she doesn't even come close to their resource level.

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Now her folder has both AffablyEvil and FauxAffablyEvil stating that she straddles the line between the two Let's begin by congratulating those who beat her along with being "genuinely" friendly with certain opponents... Just how genuine is that exactly? It seems to me that her mentorly angle toward Cerebella is actually just her way of trying to shape Cerebella into what she wants. Given she has Cerebella apprehended in her story to be broken, this isn't just fridge horror. And her whole "girl's night" with Eliza? Tell me. What exactly does she do to Eliza after beating her? Oh right! She had her burned to a crisp. And I'm sorry, but we have had too many villains that have done the "join me" bit for me to believe that her making such an offer to Valentine is meant to have her come off as affable.

Now you may be wondering "What
talking about her defeat quotes? She is congratulating them!" True, she does congratulate them, but consider this. She is a CombatSadomasochist. She actually why Axel turned to evil. He and Sparkster had the same mentor with Sparkster getting the most praise which got Axel to murder his mentor and turn against the entire kingdom. His sole reason for betraying his own kind was because he hated how Sparkster outshined him. Honestly, this doesn't care whether she wins or loses. Her congratulatory quotes aren't out of respect for her opponents power, but her enjoyment of her own suffering.

She also doesn't care for her own bunny girls
sound tragic. If anything, it comes off as she [[BadBoss threatens to kill one of them]] after she kills Lorenzo. And her anger over Brain Drain killing Ms. Fortune? That anger was because she wanted to sadistically torture Nadia and not out of caring for her. She became furious, because Brain Drain denied her the pleasure of putting poor Nadia in a fate worse than death.

And before anybody says "She didn't intend to cause many people to become the skullgirl", even if that is the case, it doesn't change
[[EvilIsPetty rather petty]].

Also,
the fact that she was responsible for them going down that path. Not to mention it is made clear that she doesn't care whether she was responsible or not for the birth of new skullgirls. To her, these skullgirls are just cannon fodder and the lives she ruined [[ButForMeItWasTuesday are just another day for her]].

And just so we are clear, Dahlia is not one of the characters who is played for laughs. She is taken very seriously.

I should also point out that personality traits are always consistent in every character's story. This means that even events that are established to not be canon can still very much happen at a character's hand if they get that opportunity.

'''Heinousness Standard'''

Skullgirls has a lot of characters that are wicked including Double and Eliza. However, I feel Dahlia does a whole lot worse than either of them, and she
he switches alliances with each game further shows he doesn't even come close have any loyalty to their resource level.the empires he is helping in attacking Zebulos. Hell! The manual for the first game outright states that he plotted to betray and kill Devligus, the BigBad of the first game, all so that he could claim the spoils of war for himself.

He also shows to not be honorable or even caring as in ''Rocket Knight'', he is supposed to be playing the hero of the Zebulos thanks to the truce between them and the Devotindos Empire, yet he prioritizes trying to kill Sparkster over actually doing anything about the attacking Wolf Army, [[DirtyCoward runs away]] when a Wolf Mech appears before him and Sparkster, and then comes back and [[StealingTheCredit takes credit for the mech's defeat]]. So no. There isn't a single redeeming thing about this backstabbing mofo.

'''Heinous Standards'''

So in each game, the kingdom of Zebulos is attacked by various armies. Axel works for the enemy in every game and helps them in bringing destruction to the kingdom, which is his homeland. And he does this to satisfy his desire to defeat Sparkster. Not to mention that he actually planned to [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder betray those armies]] (or at the very least Devligus) to claim all the glory for himself, and we have one heartless gloryhound who is very much a heinous bastard.

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Okay. So Fontaine has a serious justice system. Those who are convicted are sent to the Fortress of Meropede. There, they can work on atoning for their crimes and hopefully turn over a new leaf... well Dougier is not like that. He is in the fortress (for crimes we don't know but aren't relevent to this EP), yet he chooses to secretly plot to take control rather than learn the error of his ways.

To start, he discovers a liquified fear which he takes advantage of to inject into other inmates, forcing them to obey him without question. After getting enough victims, he has them form the Beret Society. The rules are as follows. Members are not allowed to talk with eachother without formal permission. Members are not allowed to leave without formal permission. Members are put in groups of five, and if even on member in the group breaks a rule, all members of the group are punished (it should be noted that the first rule still applies here, meaning groups can't even interact with their own teammates). He also starves his unwilling followers and makes it where the only way to get food is to sell out their fellow members.

These rules were so strict that anybody unfortunate enough to fall into Dougier's clutches eventually become so broken that they give up hope of ever being free and become resigned to their fate as his slaves.

Of course, the Duke of the Fortress, Wriothesley, realizes that something is up and sets up a plan to discover what Dougier is up to, even getting the help of the Traveler.

They eventually discover Dougier's secret base with the help of two Beret Society members. Dougier, realizing those two had been secretly working against him, prepared to have them punished in front of the rest of the society. He wasn't going to punish them himself though, he opted to force them to punish eachother against their will.

Before he can, Wriothesley arrives to deliver justice. Dougier tells him that all those in the fortress are complete monsters (even [[CardCarryingVillain establishing himself as being included]]) who deserve to be punished, claiming that he should be allow to have the luxury that Wriothesley has as he accuses Wriothesley of not caring for the inmates anymore than he does.

Wriothesley effortlessly rebukes his claims one after another, prompting Dougier to summon some Gardemeks he stole against the Duke and the Traveler. When that fails, he attempts to shoot Wriothesley, [[ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy failing miserably]]. He then turns his gun to the Traveler, prompting Wriothesley to apprehend him.

Dougier attempts to use the rules of the fortress to keep Wriothesley from punishing him by claiming that unauthorized punishment is against the rules, [[{{Hypocrite}} despite having been doing exactly that himself]]. Wriothesley ones again shuts this down by telling Dougier that as the duke of the fortress, he could kill him if he really wanted to.

Of course, Wriothesley opts to do nothing as he feels leaving Dougier in constant fear of his impending punishment at either Wriothesley's hands or the hands of his angry former followers is much more fitting than killing him. Basically, Wriothesley inflicts a karmic CruelMercy on Dougier by putting him in a FateWorseThanDeath.
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He is also a massive {{hypocrite}} as he attempts to justify his actions by claiming everybody in the Fortress of Meropede are convicted criminals who are BeyondRedemption. Not only is that not true on account of how a majority of the inmates there are actually putting an effort to reform, but Wriothesley himself was once an inmate for killing his foster parent (with actual justification due to said fosters selling kids to slave labor and killing and that don't meet their expectations or find out what they are doing) as well as the fact that as an inmate himself, that said logic applies to him too.

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He is also a massive {{hypocrite}} as he attempts to justify his actions by claiming everybody in the Fortress of Meropede are convicted criminals who are BeyondRedemption. Not only is that not true on account of how a majority of the inmates there are actually putting an effort to reform, but Wriothesley himself was once an inmate for killing his foster parent (with actual justification due to said fosters selling kids to slave labor and killing and that don't meet their expectations or find out what they are doing) as well as the fact that as due to Dougier being an inmate himself, that said logic applies to him too.
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Babel (whom I proposed and got approved before) doesn't even have Harbinger assistance in her goals with only her small tribe whom she manipulates, has killed, and [[ChronisBackstabbingDisorder betrays constantly]] while also expressing intent on overthrowing the Dendro Archon with the power that she used Jeht to acquire.

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Babel (whom I proposed and got approved before) doesn't even have Harbinger assistance in her goals with only her small tribe whom she manipulates, has killed, and [[ChronisBackstabbingDisorder [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder betrays constantly]] while also expressing intent on overthrowing the Dendro Archon with the power that she used Jeht to acquire.

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[[folder:James Allen (Missing)]]

Had to propose this guy after seeing this movie.

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[[folder:James Allen (Missing)]]

Had to propose this guy after seeing this movie.
[[folder:Dougier (Two-Week Period)]]

Got another Genshin proposal.



''Film/Missing2023'' is a movie that is viewed through a computer perspective about a girl doing what she can to find her Mom after she doesn't return home.

'''Who is James Allen? What Did He Do?'''

''Getting to that''

'''Redeeming Qualities'''

He could have possibly loved his daughter when she was a kid, but there isn't anything indicating that was truly the case considering how hostile he became when Grace has June leave the room out of concern regarding James's drug dealing. Even if he did, the actions he has with Grown up June are not love in the slightest, and instead have him come off as possessive. He even threatens to kill her when she resists (which prompts Grace to go all MamaBear on his ass). When you consider what all Grace did to keep him from finding them, Grace would not have been okay with him.

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''Film/Missing2023'' ''VideoGame/GenshinImpact'' is a movie that is viewed through game by Hoyoverse. It follows a computer perspective about a girl doing what she can Traveler trying to find her Mom after she doesn't return home.

save their sibling.

'''Who is James Allen? Dougier? What Did Does He Do?'''

''Getting
Do?'''


'''Mitigating Factors'''

When he first appears, Dougier presents himself as a nice guy. However, it's made clear he is actually a FauxAffablyEvil BitchInSheepsClothing who takes sadistic pleasure in torturing others.

He is also a massive {{hypocrite}} as he attempts
to that''

'''Redeeming Qualities'''

He could have possibly loved
justify his daughter when she was a kid, but there isn't anything indicating that was truly the case considering how hostile he became when Grace has June leave the room out of concern regarding James's drug dealing. Even if he did, the actions he has with Grown up June are not love by claiming everybody in the slightest, Fortress of Meropede are convicted criminals who are BeyondRedemption. Not only is that not true on account of how a majority of the inmates there are actually putting an effort to reform, but Wriothesley himself was once an inmate for killing his foster parent (with actual justification due to said fosters selling kids to slave labor and instead have him come off as possessive. He even threatens to kill her when she resists (which prompts Grace to go all MamaBear on his ass). When you consider killing and that don't meet their expectations or find out what all Grace did they are doing) as well as the fact that as an inmate himself, that said logic applies to keep him from finding them, Grace would not have been okay with him.
too.



''Coming Soon''

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''Coming Soon''Alright. Let's take a look at past approved and one that could have been CM if not for one prevention. Azar and Takayuki are both people in power who take advantage of their archons to have total control over their respective nations. They have pretty high resources because of that.

Nathan's resources are not quite at that level as he is a Fatui mook, but still had the backing of a Harbinger like those two did, and used those resources to poison people of Inazuma.

Babel (whom I proposed and got approved before) doesn't even have Harbinger assistance in her goals with only her small tribe whom she manipulates, has killed, and [[ChronisBackstabbingDisorder betrays constantly]] while also expressing intent on overthrowing the Dendro Archon with the power that she used Jeht to acquire.

Marcel (who can't be CM due to having a tragedy that just barely holds) has even less resources than Babel as he has a small business with fewer followers whom he too is willing to throw under the bus and plenty of Gardemeks, and he has a kill count of at least 26.

Notice the pattern? Now we talk about where Dougier stands on the resource level. Basically, all he has is the liquified fear and not even close to having as many Gardemeks as Marcel. In fact, unlike Marcel who legit own the Gardemeks from what I can tell, it is basically stated that what Gardemeks Dougier has were stolen, which I feel slightly lessens how much they count as one's own resource. He also has [[ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy no gun proficiency]] as shown when he can't even shoot Wriothesly who isn't even dodging. As such, I am pretty certain that Dougier's resources are as low as we could possibly get here. I don't think we are getting any lower.

As for what he does with the resources he does have, he used the liquified fear to force many people into following him which is basically slavery, he forces them to not interact with one another, deprives them of nuitrition and essentially starving them to death, and only rewards them when they rat on their fellow Beret members. He even punishes those who don't follow his rules or attempt to tell Wriothesley by torturing them or forcing other members to torture them (particularly members that they may have bonded with). The guy takes absolute pleasure in making his unwilling followers suffer, which I feel allows him to barely meet the standards.



[[folder:Black Dahlia]]
'''Note: I am going to wait until Marie is released before proposing Dahlia.'''

Gonna propose a Skullgirls character.

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[[folder:Black Dahlia]]
'''Note: I am going
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[[folder:James Allen (Missing)]]

Had
to wait until Marie is released before proposing Dahlia.'''

Gonna
propose a Skullgirls character.
this guy after seeing this movie.


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''Film/Missing2023'' is a movie that is viewed through a computer perspective about a girl doing what she can to find her Mom after she doesn't return home.

'''Who is James Allen? What Did He Do?'''

''Getting to that''

'''Redeeming Qualities'''

He could have possibly loved his daughter when she was a kid, but there isn't anything indicating that was truly the case considering how hostile he became when Grace has June leave the room out of concern regarding James's drug dealing. Even if he did, the actions he has with Grown up June are not love in the slightest, and instead have him come off as possessive. He even threatens to kill her when she resists (which prompts Grace to go all MamaBear on his ass). When you consider what all Grace did to keep him from finding them, Grace would not have been okay with him.

'''Heinousness Standards'''

''Coming Soon''
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[[folder:Black Dahlia]]
'''Note: I am going to wait until Marie is released before proposing Dahlia.'''

Gonna propose a Skullgirls character.

'''What's the Work?'''
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[[folder:Hatbox Ghost (Two-week period spoilers)]]

Felt it necessary to do this proposal.


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Since Austin DR and Nerd have reserved Haunted Mansion, I am transferring what I got for that to another wiki.



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[[folder:Akrasiel]]

Somehow, this character went unproposed for a while on this site. Time to fix that.




''Film/HauntedMansion2023'' is a film based on the iconic disney ride.

'''Who is the Alistair Crump? What Does He Do?'''

As a kid, Alistair admittedly had a rough life. His father disowned him for crying so much at his mother's funeral. He was also shunned by society. As he grew up though, he managed to turn himself around into a self-made man that people were established to be envious of. He also used his new standing to off anybody who he felt "betrayed" him. This includes his own father. Not just that, but he actually kept a small graveyard in his own house to bury his victims.

He also banned chairs in his mansion aside from the dining room where he had his chair higher than the others as he wanted to be above everybody else. He was also a womanizer by having at least three wives, even putting a portrait of the third one up in his place [[RefugeInAudacity for the second to discover]].

Eventually, the people caught on to his actions and abuse and [[OffWithHisHead had him beheaded]]. However, that wasn't the end of Alistairs tyrany.

Much later, a man by the name of Willain Gracey had lost his wife and suffered from huge grief that he got a spirit medium by the name of Madame Leota to help him channel her. Instead, he ended up bringing various other spirits into his mansion, including Alistair, now referred to as the [[AdaptationalVillainy Hatbox Ghost]]. Seeing an opportunity, Alistair began to [[DeadPersonImpersonation impersonate Gracey's wife]] by saying he needs to kill himself for them to reunite.

Gracey ultimately does that, sealing his fate to be trapped in the mansion with the other spirits, and he then began plotting to have a total of 1000 in order to come back to life and more powerful than ever, having 933 souls already. Knowing the threat Leota was, Alistair imprisoned her within a crystal ball. Afterward, he manages to take 66 more lives leaving him with only one more. However, there was a catch. The last soul had to be willing to give up their life.

When a woman and her son enter the mansion, he makes sure they are unable to leave by having the other ghosts under his control force them to come back when they try. He does the same to other living souls who are summoned including a fake exorcist named Kent, an astrophysicist named Ben, a new generation medium named Harriet, and a Creator/DannyDeVito named Bruce.

He sees an opportunity in Ben who was still grieving over his wife. However, Ben remained strong and refused Alistair's temptations. Realizing this, Alistair moved onto another target, which was Gabbie's son, Travis. Travis was grieving over the death of his father, so Alistair took to impersonating him to give the boy the belief he was still in touch with him. Once it was clear that he couldn't convince Ben, he began to [[WouldHurtAChild manipulate Travis into giving his life away]].

Once Ben is told that Travis's dad is dead though, he figures out Alistair's game and is quick to save Travis from making a horrible decision. Furious over this tunr of events, Alistair summons all the ghosts to hunt the living down while he makes one last attempt to convince Ben to give up his soul. At first, Ben seems to agree and admit that the others can't save him from his grief. However, Ben then says that they can save him from Alistair as the perform a sceance to banish Alistair to hell once and for all, all while Alistair swear he would return for revenge.

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\n''Film/HauntedMansion2023'' ''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream'' is a film based on game utilizing the iconic disney ride.

ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which got DLC titled Fall of the Angel.

'''Who is the Alistair Crump? Akrasiel? What Does Did He Do?'''

As a kid, Alistair admittedly had a rough life. His father disowned him for crying so much at his mother's funeral. He was also shunned by society. As he grew up though, he managed to turn himself around into a self-made man that people were established to be envious of. He also used his new standing to off anybody who he felt "betrayed" him. This includes his own father. Not just that, but he actually kept a small graveyard in his own house to bury his victims.

He also banned chairs in his mansion aside from the dining room where he had his chair higher than the others as he wanted to be above everybody else. He was also a womanizer by having at least three wives, even putting a portrait of the third one up in his place [[RefugeInAudacity for the second to discover]].

Eventually, the people caught on to his actions and abuse and [[OffWithHisHead had him beheaded]]. However, that wasn't the end of Alistairs tyrany.

Much later, a man by the name of Willain Gracey had lost his wife and suffered from huge grief that he got a spirit medium by the name of Madame Leota to help him channel her. Instead, he ended up bringing various other spirits into his mansion, including Alistair, now referred to as the [[AdaptationalVillainy Hatbox Ghost]]. Seeing an opportunity, Alistair began to [[DeadPersonImpersonation impersonate Gracey's wife]] by saying he needs to kill himself for them to reunite.

Gracey ultimately does that, sealing his fate to be trapped in the mansion with the other spirits, and he then began plotting to have a total of 1000 in order to come back to life and more powerful than ever, having 933 souls already. Knowing the threat Leota was, Alistair imprisoned her within a crystal ball. Afterward, he manages to take 66 more lives leaving him with only one more. However, there was a catch. The last soul had to be willing to give up their life.

When a woman and her son enter the mansion, he makes sure they are unable to leave by having the other ghosts under his control force them to come back when they try. He does the same to other living souls who are summoned including a fake exorcist named Kent, an astrophysicist named Ben, a new generation medium named Harriet, and a Creator/DannyDeVito named Bruce.

He sees an opportunity in Ben who was still grieving over his wife. However, Ben remained strong and refused Alistair's temptations. Realizing this, Alistair moved onto another target, which was Gabbie's son, Travis. Travis was grieving over the death of his father, so Alistair took to impersonating him to give the boy the belief he was still in touch with him. Once it was clear that he couldn't convince Ben, he began to [[WouldHurtAChild manipulate Travis into giving his life away]].

Once Ben is told that Travis's dad is dead though, he figures out Alistair's game and is quick to save Travis from making a horrible decision. Furious over this tunr of events, Alistair summons all the ghosts to hunt the living down while he makes one last attempt to convince Ben to give up his soul. At first, Ben seems to agree and admit that the others can't save him from his grief. However, Ben then says that they can save him from Alistair as the perform a sceance to banish Alistair to hell once and for all, all while Alistair swear he would return for revenge.
Do?'''



Now it is true that he suffered from AbusiveParents as his father kicked him out over crying about his mother. This could have effectively given him something of an excuse for killing his father.

The problem is that he actually grows up to be even worse by not only killing his father, but anybody he assumes "betrayed" him, and he is also known to be a womanizer as he had more than one wife. Not only that, but he is shown to be willing to harm those who never had any connection in his life. All this has me feel that he subverts that bit of tragedy as he chooses to be an even bigger bastard than his father.

I suppose we should address the whole ordeal with him crying about his mother. He was established to be a kid at that time, and there isn't anything indicating that he still cared for her when he grew up as he never actually states her to be the reason for his actions. He doesn't even acknowledge or talk about her. It's never even stated whether or not he was crying because he loved her. Because of this, we can't rule this against him.

Now admittedly the murder of his father is only implied, but can one little bit of fridge horror be enough of a prevention when he has WAY worse crimes that not only have evidence but are also on-screen? I don't think so.



And now the fun begins! Believe it or not, Constance Hatchaway is in this movie (she just isn't referred to by name), and she is still established to have been a gold digger who murdered her husbands. In spite of this, not only is Constance actually redeemed in this movie, but she is effectively outdone in heinousness by Hatbox Crump who not only proved to be marrying multiple women at once, but also imprisoned the souls he killed in a mansion both in life and death with intent to trick the 1000th victim into willingly giving their soul to him so that he could be all powerful.

When you make Constance look redeemable, I'd say you meet the standards hands down!

'''Verdict'''

Yes to this version of the Hatbox Ghost!

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And now the fun begins! Believe it or not, Constance Hatchaway The best comparison Akrasiel has is in this movie (she just isn't referred to by name), and she is still established to with Executor who could have been considered a gold digger who murdered her husbands. In spite of this, complete monster himself if not only is Constance actually redeemed in this movie, but she is effectively outdone in heinousness by Hatbox Crump who not only proved to be marrying multiple women at once, but also imprisoned for the souls he killed in a mansion both in life sequel and death with intent to trick the 1000th victim into willingly giving their soul to him so that he could be all powerful.

When you make Constance look redeemable, I'd say you meet the standards hands down!

'''Verdict'''

Yes to this version of the Hatbox Ghost!
its dlc.



[[folder:Akrasiel]]

Somehow, this character went unproposed for a while on this site. Time to fix that.

'''What's the Work?'''

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[[folder:Akrasiel]]

Somehow, this character went unproposed for a while on this site. Time to fix that.

[[folder:X (Sonic.exe Blood Scream)]]

Not just settling with Akrasiel.

'''What's the The Work?'''



'''Who is Akrasiel? What Did He Do?'''

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'''Who is Akrasiel? X? What Did He Do?'''



The best comparison Akrasiel has is with Executor who could have been considered a complete monster himself if not for the sequel and its dlc.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:X (Sonic.exe Blood Scream)]]

Not just settling with Akrasiel.

'''What's The Work?'''
''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream'' is a game utilizing the ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which got DLC titled Fall of the Angel.

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[[folder:Akrasiel]]

Somehow, this character went unproposed for a while on this site. Time to fix that.

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[[folder:Akrasiel]]

Somehow,
[[folder:Hatbox Ghost (Two-week period spoilers)]]

Felt it necessary to do
this character went unproposed for a while on this site. Time to fix that.
proposal.



''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream'' is a game utilizing the ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which got DLC titled Fall of the Angel.

'''Who is Akrasiel? What Did He Do?'''

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''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream''
''Film/HauntedMansion2023''
is a game utilizing film based on the ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which got DLC titled Fall of the Angel.

iconic disney ride.

'''Who is Akrasiel? the Alistair Crump? What Did Does He Do?'''
Do?'''

As a kid, Alistair admittedly had a rough life. His father disowned him for crying so much at his mother's funeral. He was also shunned by society. As he grew up though, he managed to turn himself around into a self-made man that people were established to be envious of. He also used his new standing to off anybody who he felt "betrayed" him. This includes his own father. Not just that, but he actually kept a small graveyard in his own house to bury his victims.

He also banned chairs in his mansion aside from the dining room where he had his chair higher than the others as he wanted to be above everybody else. He was also a womanizer by having at least three wives, even putting a portrait of the third one up in his place [[RefugeInAudacity for the second to discover]].

Eventually, the people caught on to his actions and abuse and [[OffWithHisHead had him beheaded]]. However, that wasn't the end of Alistairs tyrany.

Much later, a man by the name of Willain Gracey had lost his wife and suffered from huge grief that he got a spirit medium by the name of Madame Leota to help him channel her. Instead, he ended up bringing various other spirits into his mansion, including Alistair, now referred to as the [[AdaptationalVillainy Hatbox Ghost]]. Seeing an opportunity, Alistair began to [[DeadPersonImpersonation impersonate Gracey's wife]] by saying he needs to kill himself for them to reunite.

Gracey ultimately does that, sealing his fate to be trapped in the mansion with the other spirits, and he then began plotting to have a total of 1000 in order to come back to life and more powerful than ever, having 933 souls already. Knowing the threat Leota was, Alistair imprisoned her within a crystal ball. Afterward, he manages to take 66 more lives leaving him with only one more. However, there was a catch. The last soul had to be willing to give up their life.

When a woman and her son enter the mansion, he makes sure they are unable to leave by having the other ghosts under his control force them to come back when they try. He does the same to other living souls who are summoned including a fake exorcist named Kent, an astrophysicist named Ben, a new generation medium named Harriet, and a Creator/DannyDeVito named Bruce.

He sees an opportunity in Ben who was still grieving over his wife. However, Ben remained strong and refused Alistair's temptations. Realizing this, Alistair moved onto another target, which was Gabbie's son, Travis. Travis was grieving over the death of his father, so Alistair took to impersonating him to give the boy the belief he was still in touch with him. Once it was clear that he couldn't convince Ben, he began to [[WouldHurtAChild manipulate Travis into giving his life away]].

Once Ben is told that Travis's dad is dead though, he figures out Alistair's game and is quick to save Travis from making a horrible decision. Furious over this tunr of events, Alistair summons all the ghosts to hunt the living down while he makes one last attempt to convince Ben to give up his soul. At first, Ben seems to agree and admit that the others can't save him from his grief. However, Ben then says that they can save him from Alistair as the perform a sceance to banish Alistair to hell once and for all, all while Alistair swear he would return for revenge.



Now it is true that he suffered from AbusiveParents as his father kicked him out over crying about his mother. This could have effectively given him something of an excuse for killing his father.

The problem is that he actually grows up to be even worse by not only killing his father, but anybody he assumes "betrayed" him, and he is also known to be a womanizer as he had more than one wife. Not only that, but he is shown to be willing to harm those who never had any connection in his life. All this has me feel that he subverts that bit of tragedy as he chooses to be an even bigger bastard than his father.

I suppose we should address the whole ordeal with him crying about his mother. He was established to be a kid at that time, and there isn't anything indicating that he still cared for her when he grew up as he never actually states her to be the reason for his actions. He doesn't even acknowledge or talk about her. It's never even stated whether or not he was crying because he loved her. Because of this, we can't rule this against him.

Now admittedly the murder of his father is only implied, but can one little bit of fridge horror be enough of a prevention when he has WAY worse crimes that not only have evidence but are also on-screen? I don't think so.



The best comparison Akrasiel has is with Executor who could have been considered a complete monster himself if not for the sequel and its dlc.

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The best comparison Akrasiel has And now the fun begins! Believe it or not, Constance Hatchaway is with Executor who could in this movie (she just isn't referred to by name), and she is still established to have been considered a complete monster himself if gold digger who murdered her husbands. In spite of this, not for only is Constance actually redeemed in this movie, but she is effectively outdone in heinousness by Hatbox Crump who not only proved to be marrying multiple women at once, but also imprisoned the sequel souls he killed in a mansion both in life and its dlc.death with intent to trick the 1000th victim into willingly giving their soul to him so that he could be all powerful.

When you make Constance look redeemable, I'd say you meet the standards hands down!

'''Verdict'''

Yes to this version of the Hatbox Ghost!



[[folder:X (Sonic.exe Blood Scream)]]

Not just settling with Akrasiel.

'''What's The Work?'''

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[[folder:X (Sonic.exe Blood Scream)]]

Not just settling with Akrasiel.

[[folder:Akrasiel]]

Somehow, this character went unproposed for a while on this site. Time to fix that.

'''What's The the Work?'''



'''Who is X? What Did He Do?'''

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'''Who is X? Akrasiel? What Did He Do?'''


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The best comparison Akrasiel has is with Executor who could have been considered a complete monster himself if not for the sequel and its dlc.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:X (Sonic.exe Blood Scream)]]

Not just settling with Akrasiel.

'''What's The Work?'''
''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream'' is a game utilizing the ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which got DLC titled Fall of the Angel.

'''Who is X? What Did He Do?'''

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[[folder:Werner (Dragalia Lost)]]

Alright. This one is a proposal I am going with my gut on.

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[[folder:Werner (Dragalia Lost)]]

Alright. This one is a proposal
[[folder:Black Dahlia]]
'''Note:
I am going with my gut on.
to wait until Marie is released before proposing Dahlia.'''

Gonna propose a Skullgirls character.



Dragalia Lost is a defunct mobile game involving a prince trying to save his sister.

'''Who is Werner? What Did He Do?'''

After the fall of Morsayati, there was a vacuum of power within the Dyrenell Empire. When none of the most well known members of the Alberian Royal Family took claim of the throne, Emile was quick to call dibs in hopes that becoming emperor would earn him respect. It didn't. However, he did have a few loyal soldier who believe in him including his caretaker Magnus, a knight named Saboa, and Werner who serves as his butler of utmost- HA! no! Werner was only pretending to be loyal so that Emile's guard would be down with him.

After poisoning Emile, Werner reveals his family to have been part of the original Dyrenell Empire and declares himself the true heir to the throne while calling Emile Alberian filth. He then has a soldier throw Emile into the ocean.

After that, he began making changes to how the Empire is run. To start he increases taxes to the point where the citizens of Dyrenell are required to work extra jobs, which even then they struggle to pay them off, effectively treating the citizens as slaves. Magnus spoke out against Werner's actions, resulting in Werner throwing him in prison.

Of course, Emile survived and eventually returns to get the citizens to praise him again. However, they don't believe him to be Emile due to a funeral that was held for him, and they lament on how bad of an Emperor he was due to putting up statues of himself and tried to be a FakeUltimateHero, everybody making fun of how pathetic he was. However, they then admit he was still ten times better than Werner due to the amount of suffering he was causing them with the taxes. They even reveal that Werner was planning on using all of that tax money to launch an all-out attack on Saint Lotier. This prompts Emile to find a way to take Werner down so that he could become an actual hero.

Emile manages to infiltrate the castle where he runs into Saboa who informs him of Magnus's imprisonment, prompting them to break him out and plan a way for Emile to get close to Werner.

However, Werner sees right through the plan, revealing he intentionally allowed Emile to slip through to give him a HopeSpot while pointing out how terrible Emile is at stealth and has guards surround the three of them while ordering to have them executed. Magnus declares he would make an opening for Emile to escape only for Werner to tell him he would just have Emile surrounded again while calling Magnus a fool for defending a spineless coward.

Magnus then states that Werner is the real coward for relying on poisoning Emile to steal the throne. Angered by this, Werner prepares to order for Magnus to be the first to die. Just then Emile starts calling him a coward too for relying on guards to dispose of them rather than killing them himself while challenging Werner to a duel. Believing a duel with Emile to be an easy win, Werner accepts declaring his intent to MakeAnExampleOutOfHim. Of course, this was a bluff on Emile's part as even Emile didn't think he could win such a thing but wanted to save Magnus.

Emile even attempts to escape, but Werner made sure he couldn't, wanting to savor Emile's death. When the duel begins, Werner seemingly act generous by letting Emile have the first swipe, only to knock Emile's sword out of his hand, revealing himself to actually be a skilled fighter. He then states that he opted to serve as an official rather than a soldier as he believed Emile would have his guard up otherwise.

Rather than finish Emile off right away, Werner opts to draw the fight out and make Emile suffer. In spite of this, Emile refuses to surrender as he declares he would turn the Dyrenell Empire into a kingdom of peace with appreciation for fine arts which Werner scoffs at. Deciding he has had his fun with Emile, Werner prepares to finish him off. Just then though, Emile suddenly shapeshifts into Mercury, surprising everybody including himself. With Mercury's power, Emile defeats Werner and regains his right to the Dyrenell throne.

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Dragalia Lost Skullgirls is a defunct mobile fighting game involving with a prince trying story around a macguffin known as the Skull Heart which has the power to save his sister.

grant the wish of those who acquire it... HA! No. It completely twists the wish and turns the user into a monster known as the Skullgirl. The current Skullgirl being Marie.

'''Who is Werner? Black Dahlia? What Did He She Do?'''

After the fall of Morsayati, there was a vacuum of power within the Dyrenell Empire. When none of the most well known members of the Alberian Royal Family took claim of the throne, Emile was quick to call dibs Black Dahlia is an enforcer for Lorenzo Medici. She takes great pleasure in hopes that becoming emperor would earn him respect. It didn't. However, he did have a few loyal soldier who believe in him including his caretaker Magnus, a knight named Saboa, [[BloodKnight committing violence and Werner who serves as his butler of utmost- HA! no! Werner was only pretending to be loyal so that Emile's guard would be down with him.

After poisoning Emile, Werner reveals his family to have been part of the original Dyrenell Empire and declares himself the true heir to the throne while calling Emile Alberian filth. He then has a soldier throw Emile into the ocean.

After that, he began making changes to how the Empire is run. To start he increases taxes to the point where the citizens of Dyrenell are required to work extra jobs, which even then they struggle to pay them off, effectively treating the citizens as slaves. Magnus spoke out against Werner's actions, resulting in Werner throwing him in prison.

Of course, Emile survived and eventually returns to get the citizens to praise him again. However, they don't believe him to be Emile due to a funeral that was held for him, and they lament on how bad of an Emperor he was due to putting up statues of himself and tried to be a FakeUltimateHero, everybody making fun of how pathetic he was. However, they then admit he was still ten times better than Werner due to the amount of suffering he was causing them with the taxes. They even reveal that Werner was planning on using all of that tax money to launch an all-out attack on Saint Lotier. This prompts Emile to find a way to take Werner down so that he could become an actual hero.

Emile manages to infiltrate the castle where he runs into Saboa who informs him of Magnus's imprisonment, prompting them to break him out and plan a way for Emile to get close to Werner.

However, Werner sees right through the plan, revealing he intentionally allowed Emile to slip through to give him a HopeSpot while pointing out how terrible Emile is at stealth and has guards surround the three of them while ordering to have them executed. Magnus declares he would make an opening for Emile to escape only for Werner to tell him he would just have Emile surrounded again while calling Magnus a fool for defending a spineless coward.

Magnus then states that Werner is the real coward for relying on poisoning Emile to steal the throne. Angered by this, Werner prepares to order for Magnus to be the first to die. Just then Emile starts calling him a coward too for relying on guards to dispose of them rather than killing them himself while challenging Werner to a duel. Believing a duel with Emile to be an easy win, Werner accepts declaring his intent to MakeAnExampleOutOfHim. Of course, this was a bluff on Emile's part as even Emile didn't think he could win such a thing but wanted to save Magnus.

Emile even attempts to escape, but Werner made sure he couldn't, wanting to savor Emile's death. When the duel begins, Werner seemingly act generous by letting Emile have the first swipe, only to knock Emile's sword out of his hand, revealing himself to actually be a skilled fighter. He then states that he opted to serve as an official rather than a soldier as he believed Emile would have his guard up otherwise.

Rather than finish Emile off right away, Werner opts to draw the fight out and make Emile suffer. In spite of this, Emile refuses to surrender as he declares he would turn the Dyrenell Empire into a kingdom of peace with appreciation for fine arts which Werner scoffs at. Deciding he has had his fun with Emile, Werner prepares to finish him off. Just then though, Emile suddenly shapeshifts into Mercury, surprising everybody including himself. With Mercury's power, Emile defeats Werner and regains his right to the Dyrenell throne.
killing]].



Just going to say this now. His acceptance of Emile's challenge to a duel when he could have easily killed him right there is not a redeeming quality. It is BondVillainStupidity, but he accepted because he believe Emile stood no chance against him.

As pointed out by Magnus, despite the fact Werner is secretly a trained soldier, it doesn't change that he is still proven to be a DirtyCoward as he has guards surround Emile, Magnus, and Saboa. If he was really confident in his abilities like he claimed, he could have beaten them on his own, yet he resorted to having them captured to be executed. He only opted to dueling Emile when Emile of all people start calling him a coward. He doesn't even give Magnus the time of day when they call him such as he just orders the guards to kill Magnus first.

His whole letting Emile have the first swipe isn't redeeming either as it was once again his way of giving Emile a false sense of hope. He needlessly dragged the fight out just so he could make Emile suffer.

'''Heinousness Standards'''

Here's where I have been fighting with myself. Now obviously, it is unfair to compare Werner to the likes of Tsukuyomi or Xenos, both of whom have resources Werner only wishes he had.

I am pretty certain Augus has more resources than Werner as well.

That leaves the Doctor. As you know, the doctor did unethical experimenting, tricked Aldred into killing his own sister, and tried to force Euden to merge with Aspedocelone. My beef is whether or not Werner's actions are worse than the Doctor's. And if they aren't, then does he at least stand out when it comes to resources?

'''Verdict'''

It all depends on whether or not people feel he stands out when compared to the Doctor.

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Now her folder has both AffablyEvil and FauxAffablyEvil stating that she straddles the line between the two by congratulating those who beat her along with being "genuinely" friendly with certain opponents... Just going how genuine is that exactly? It seems to say me that her mentorly angle toward Cerebella is actually just her way of trying to shape Cerebella into what she wants. Given she has Cerebella apprehended in her story to be broken, this now. His acceptance of Emile's challenge isn't just fridge horror. And her whole "girl's night" with Eliza? Tell me. What exactly does she do to Eliza after beating her? Oh right! She had her burned to a duel when he could crisp. And I'm sorry, but we have easily killed him right there had too many villains that have done the "join me" bit for me to believe that her making such an offer to Valentine is not a redeeming quality. It meant to have her come off as affable.

Now you may be wondering "What about her defeat quotes? She
is BondVillainStupidity, congratulating them!" True, she does congratulate them, but he accepted consider this. She is a CombatSadomasochist. She actually doesn't care whether she wins or loses. Her congratulatory quotes aren't out of respect for her opponents power, but her enjoyment of her own suffering.

She also doesn't care for her own bunny girls as she [[BadBoss threatens to kill one of them]] after she kills Lorenzo. And her anger over Brain Drain killing Ms. Fortune? That anger was
because he believe Emile stood no chance against him.

As pointed
she wanted to sadistically torture Nadia and not out by Magnus, despite of caring for her. She became furious, because Brain Drain denied her the fact Werner pleasure of putting poor Nadia in a fate worse than death.

And before anybody says "She didn't intend to cause many people to become the skullgirl", even if that
is secretly a trained soldier, the case, it doesn't change the fact that he is still proven to be a DirtyCoward as he has guards surround Emile, Magnus, and Saboa. If he she was really confident in his abilities like he claimed, he could have beaten responsible for them on his own, yet he resorted going down that path. Not to having them captured to be executed. He only opted to dueling Emile when Emile of all people start calling him a coward. He mention it is made clear that she doesn't even give Magnus care whether she was responsible or not for the time birth of day when they call him such as he new skullgirls. To her, these skullgirls are just orders cannon fodder and the guards to kill Magnus first.

His whole letting Emile have the first swipe isn't redeeming either as it was once again his way of giving Emile a false sense of hope. He needlessly dragged the fight out
lives she ruined [[ButForMeItWasTuesday are just another day for her]].

And
just so he could make Emile suffer.

we are clear, Dahlia is not one of the characters who is played for laughs. She is taken very seriously.

I should also point out that personality traits are always consistent in every character's story. This means that even events that are established to not be canon can still very much happen at a character's hand if they get that opportunity.

'''Heinousness Standards'''

Here's where I have been fighting with myself. Now obviously, it is unfair to compare Werner to the likes of Tsukuyomi or Xenos, both of whom have resources Werner only wishes he had.

I am pretty certain Augus
Standard'''

Skullgirls
has more resources than Werner as well.

That leaves the Doctor. As you know, the doctor did unethical experimenting, tricked Aldred into killing his own sister,
a lot of characters that are wicked including Double and tried to force Euden to merge with Aspedocelone. My beef is whether or not Werner's actions are Eliza. However, I feel Dahlia does a whole lot worse than the Doctor's. And if they aren't, then does he at least stand out when it comes either of them, and she doesn't even come close to resources?

'''Verdict'''

It all depends on whether or not people feel he stands out when compared to the Doctor.
their resource level.



[[folder:Black Dahlia]]
'''Note: I am going to wait until Marie is released before proposing Dahlia.'''

Gonna propose a Skullgirls character.

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[[folder:Black Dahlia]]
'''Note: I am going
[[folder:Akrasiel]]

Somehow, this character went unproposed for a while on this site. Time
to wait until Marie is released before proposing Dahlia.'''

Gonna propose a Skullgirls character.
fix that.




Skullgirls is a fighting game with a story around a macguffin known as the Skull Heart which has the power to grant the wish of those who acquire it... HA! No. It completely twists the wish and turns the user into a monster known as the Skullgirl. The current Skullgirl being Marie.

'''Who is Black Dahlia? What Did She Do?'''

Black Dahlia is an enforcer for Lorenzo Medici. She takes great pleasure in [[BloodKnight committing violence and killing]].

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\nSkullgirls ''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream'' is a fighting game with a story around a macguffin known as utilizing the Skull Heart ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which has got DLC titled Fall of the power to grant the wish of those who acquire it... HA! No. It completely twists the wish and turns the user into a monster known as the Skullgirl. The current Skullgirl being Marie.

Angel.

'''Who is Black Dahlia? Akrasiel? What Did She Do?'''

Black Dahlia is an enforcer for Lorenzo Medici. She takes great pleasure in [[BloodKnight committing violence and killing]].
He Do?'''



Now her folder has both AffablyEvil and FauxAffablyEvil stating that she straddles the line between the two by congratulating those who beat her along with being "genuinely" friendly with certain opponents... Just how genuine is that exactly? It seems to me that her mentorly angle toward Cerebella is actually just her way of trying to shape Cerebella into what she wants. Given she has Cerebella apprehended in her story to be broken, this isn't just fridge horror. And her whole "girl's night" with Eliza? Tell me. What exactly does she do to Eliza after beating her? Oh right! She had her burned to a crisp. And I'm sorry, but we have had too many villains that have done the "join me" bit for me to believe that her making such an offer to Valentine is meant to have her come off as affable.

Now you may be wondering "What about her defeat quotes? She is congratulating them!" True, she does congratulate them, but consider this. She is a CombatSadomasochist. She actually doesn't care whether she wins or loses. Her congratulatory quotes aren't out of respect for her opponents power, but her enjoyment of her own suffering.

She also doesn't care for her own bunny girls as she [[BadBoss threatens to kill one of them]] after she kills Lorenzo. And her anger over Brain Drain killing Ms. Fortune? That anger was because she wanted to sadistically torture Nadia and not out of caring for her. She became furious, because Brain Drain denied her the pleasure of putting poor Nadia in a fate worse than death.

And before anybody says "She didn't intend to cause many people to become the skullgirl", even if that is the case, it doesn't change the fact that she was responsible for them going down that path. Not to mention it is made clear that she doesn't care whether she was responsible or not for the birth of new skullgirls. To her, these skullgirls are just cannon fodder and the lives she ruined [[ButForMeItWasTuesday are just another day for her]].

And just so we are clear, Dahlia is not one of the characters who is played for laughs. She is taken very seriously.

I should also point out that personality traits are always consistent in every character's story. This means that even events that are established to not be canon can still very much happen at a character's hand if they get that opportunity.

'''Heinousness Standard'''

Skullgirls has a lot of characters that are wicked including Double and Eliza. However, I feel Dahlia does a whole lot worse than either of them, and she doesn't even come close to their resource level.

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Now her folder has both AffablyEvil and FauxAffablyEvil stating that she straddles the line between the two by congratulating those who beat her along with being "genuinely" friendly with certain opponents... Just how genuine is that exactly? It seems to me that her mentorly angle toward Cerebella is actually just her way of trying to shape Cerebella into what she wants. Given she has Cerebella apprehended in her story to be broken, this isn't just fridge horror. And her whole "girl's night" with Eliza? Tell me. What exactly does she do to Eliza after beating her? Oh right! She had her burned to a crisp. And I'm sorry, but we have had too many villains that have done the "join me" bit for me to believe that her making such an offer to Valentine is meant to have her come off as affable.

Now you may be wondering "What about her defeat quotes? She is congratulating them!" True, she does congratulate them, but consider this. She is a CombatSadomasochist. She actually doesn't care whether she wins or loses. Her congratulatory quotes aren't out of respect for her opponents power, but her enjoyment of her own suffering.

She also doesn't care for her own bunny girls as she [[BadBoss threatens to kill one of them]] after she kills Lorenzo. And her anger over Brain Drain killing Ms. Fortune? That anger was because she wanted to sadistically torture Nadia and not out of caring for her. She became furious, because Brain Drain denied her the pleasure of putting poor Nadia in a fate worse than death.

And before anybody says "She didn't intend to cause many people to become the skullgirl", even if that is the case, it doesn't change the fact that she was responsible for them going down that path. Not to mention it is made clear that she doesn't care whether she was responsible or not for the birth of new skullgirls. To her, these skullgirls are just cannon fodder and the lives she ruined [[ButForMeItWasTuesday are just another day for her]].

And just so we are clear, Dahlia is not one of the characters who is played for laughs. She is taken very seriously.

I should also point out that personality traits are always consistent in every character's story. This means that even events that are established to not be canon can still very much happen at a character's hand if they get that opportunity.

'''Heinousness Standard'''

Skullgirls
Standards'''

The best comparison Akrasiel
has is with Executor who could have been considered a lot of characters that are wicked including Double complete monster himself if not for the sequel and Eliza. However, I feel Dahlia does a whole lot worse than either of them, and she doesn't even come close to their resource level.its dlc.



[[folder:Redd White]]

Alright. Going to Ace Attorney here. Became motivated to do this guy after discussion on another wiki. Don't worry. This proposal will be in my own writing. No sense in copying another person's proposal word for word. Besides that, plagiarism is wrong anyway.

'''What's the Work'''

''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' is the first entry in the Ace attorney franchise.

'''Who is Redd White? What Has He Done?'''

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[[folder:Redd White]]

Alright. Going to Ace Attorney here. Became motivated to do this guy after discussion on another wiki. Don't worry. This proposal will be in my own writing. No sense in copying another person's proposal word for word. Besides that, plagiarism is wrong anyway.

[[folder:X (Sonic.exe Blood Scream)]]

Not just settling with Akrasiel.

'''What's The Work?'''
''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream'' is a game utilizing
the Work'''

''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' is
ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which got DLC titled Fall of the first entry in the Ace attorney franchise.

Angel.

'''Who is Redd White? X? What Has Did He Done?'''
Do?'''



This was where the proposal from the outside wiki inspired me to do this one. When it comes down to it, Ace Attorney already has a lot of monsters.
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[[folder:Dr. Agness]]

Alright, so the work only has two episodes so far and now got a channel dedicated to it, but I feel the actions of this character are still very well enough for her to count before the first season even closes.

'''What's The Work?'''

''WebAnimation/MonkeyWrench'' is an animated series by Zeurel starring two Mercs.

'''Who is Dr. Agness? What Did She Do?'''

Dr. Agness is a criminal with who specializes in weapon development.

'''Mitigating Factors'''

This work is comedy, but I can only think of one moment directly from Agness that would be a funny moment. Specifically when she taunts the duo over being unable to hurt her. This one moment is not enough to really lessen how serious she is though and only further demonstrates how much of a SmugSnake she is. It also has nothing to do with her most severe crime of genocide which is treated completely seriously.

'''Heinousness Standards'''

Now while the series is still ongoing, I am convinced that Agness will continue to stand out as she killed off an entire race with moderate resources (she had to hire some mercs to gather them up for her).

Pretty sure that is not an easy thing to surpass in the Heinousness department.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:Akrasiel]]

Somehow, this character went unproposed for a while on this site. Time to fix that.

'''What's the Work?'''
''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream'' is a game utilizing the ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which got DLC titled Fall of the Angel.

'''Who is Akrasiel? What Did He Do?'''

'''Mitigating Factors'''

'''Heinousness Standards'''

The best comparison Akrasiel has is with Executor who could have been considered a complete monster himself if not for the sequel and its dlc.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:X (Sonic.exe Blood Scream)]]

Not just settling with Akrasiel.

'''What's The Work?'''
''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream'' is a game utilizing the ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which got DLC titled Fall of the Angel.

'''Who is X? What Did He Do?'''

'''Mitigating Factors'''

'''Heinousness Standards'''
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[[/folder]]

[[folder:Akrasiel]]

Somehow, this character went unproposed for a while on this site. Time to fix that.

'''What's the Work?'''
''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream'' is a game utilizing the ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which got DLC titled Fall of the Angel.

'''Who is Akrasiel? What Did He Do?'''

'''Mitigating Factors'''

'''Heinousness Standards'''

The best comparison Akrasiel has is with Executor who could have been considered a complete monster himself if not for the sequel and its dlc.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:X (Sonic.exe Blood Scream)]]

Not just settling with Akrasiel.

'''What's The Work?'''
''VideoGame/SonicExeBloodScream'' is a game utilizing the ever so classic Sonic.exe bit. It got a sequel titled Blood Tears which got DLC titled Fall of the Angel.

'''Who is X? What Did He Do?'''

'''Mitigating Factors'''

'''Heinousness Standards'''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


This work is comedy, but I can only think of one moment directly from Agness that would be a funny moment. Specifically when she taunts Shrike over being unable to hurt her. This one moment is not enough to really lessen how serious she is though, especially since it has nothing to do with her most serious crime of genocide.

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This work is comedy, but I can only think of one moment directly from Agness that would be a funny moment. Specifically when she taunts Shrike the duo over being unable to hurt her. This one moment is not enough to really lessen how serious she is though, especially since it though and only further demonstrates how much of a SmugSnake she is. It also has nothing to do with her most serious severe crime of genocide.
genocide which is treated completely seriously.

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These work is comedy, but I can only think of one moment directly from Agness that would be a funny moment. Specifically when she taunts Shrike over being unable to hurt her. This one moment is not enough to really lessen how serious she is though, especially since it has nothing to do with her most serious crime of genocide.

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These This work is comedy, but I can only think of one moment directly from Agness that would be a funny moment. Specifically when she taunts Shrike over being unable to hurt her. This one moment is not enough to really lessen how serious she is though, especially since it has nothing to do with her most serious crime of genocide.
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[[/folder]]

[[folder:Dr. Agness]]

Alright, so the work only has two episodes so far and now got a channel dedicated to it, but I feel the actions of this character are still very well enough for her to count before the first season even closes.

'''What's The Work?'''

''WebAnimation/MonkeyWrench'' is an animated series by Zeurel starring two Mercs.

'''Who is Dr. Agness? What Did She Do?'''

'''Mitigating Factors'''

These work is comedy, but I can only think of one moment directly from Agness that would be a funny moment. Specifically when she taunts Shrike over being unable to hurt her. This one moment is not enough to really lessen how serious she is though, especially since it has nothing to do with her most serious crime of genocide.

'''Heinousness Standards'''

Now while the series is still ongoing, I am convinced that Agness will continue to stand out as she killed off an entire race with moderate resources (she had to hire some mercs to gather them up for her).

Pretty sure that is not an easy thing to surpass in the Heinousness department.

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