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The baseline isn't an either issue, as the fic treats the events of past Seasons and, by extension, all of his canon crimes prior to ''Crystalized'' as canon and he has the same end goal of usurping the Powers of Creation as his original counterpart. The Overlord also has a few additional crimes within the fic, like heavily harming Lloyd and Garmadon during his fight against them, painfully corrupting Kai into a puppet and uses a nasty way of keeping him in check once Kai starts fighting back against the corruption and it's stated that he would've tried to wipe out the Oni once the oppertunity was given to him.

!! What is the work?

!! Who is The Overlord and what have they done?

''Fanfic/ShadowsOfAmethyst'' ([[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14332712/1/Shadows-of-Amethyst link]]): [[EvilOverlord The Overlord]], also known as the Crystal King, returns after [[Recap/NinjagoS3E34TheTitaniumNinja his previous defeat]] by launching an attack on Ninjago City and painfully corrupts the city's civilians into Crystal Zombies. When Lloyd, Garmadon and Harumi try to put an end to his evil schemes, The Overlord severly injures Garmadon and breaks Lloyd's arm during his fight against the heroes. Upon entering a partnership with The Omega while also having the intent to wipe the Oni out afterwards, The Overlord corrupts Kai into his puppet and has him infiltrate the Newspaper Warehouse in an attempt to infect all of the other Ninja. Once Kai tries to fight back against his corruption, The Overlord causes a "full-system overload" of Kai's nerve system to keep him under control. When The Omega's attempts to convince Lloyd to join the Oni fails, The Overlord reveals that he wasn't intending on upholding his side of the bargain and tries to kill him alongside Lloyd before attempting to destroy the Balance by [[OmnicidalManiac corrupting the Elements of Creation]].

* Hajime "Old [=MacDonald=]" Kashimo got hit with this ''hard'' after [[spoiler:[[CurbStompBattle he didn't even last two chapters against Sukuna before being killed off,]] despite all the hype he has gotten. And just to twist the knife further, Yuji, Yuta, Maki, and even Higurama all got good showings against Sukuna as the fight progressed, which just made Kashimo's performance look even worse by comparison.]] As a result of his poor performance, several jokes were spawned about him that stated that he only ''seemed'' strong because he solely fought against farmers doing jujutsu as a hobby and referring to him as waffle in reference to [[spoiler: him being cleaved into square cubes by Sukuna]], alongside inexplisable jokes about Kashimo being a femboy.

''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14332712/1/Shadows-of-Amethyst Shadows Of Amethyst]]'' is a ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}'' fanfic written by Sivinightfury. The fic serves as a psuedo-rewrite of ''Crystalized'' and is intended to "fix" some of its more divisive elements, like Harumi's redemption and the Overlord's defeat, and seemingly follows up from the point after the Overlord reveals that he was behind the Great Devourer's corruption and (indirectly) the death of Harumi's parents, although the timeline doesn't 100% add up.\\\

* When Kai wakes up, it's revealed that The Overlord has made a bargain with the Omega to hand Lloyd over to the Oni in exchange for the Omega's assistence against the Elemental Masters, as both sides would wipe eachother out if they fought. The Overlord grabs Kai when he tries to warn Lloyd about his plans and proceeds to painfully corrupt the Fire Ninja by holding him and zapping him with his dark powers. Kai attempts to resist the Overlord's corruption, with his breaths getting heavier and Kai becoming unable to talk due to his focus on resisting The Overlord's corruption, but he eventually fails and is turned into the Overlord's puppet.

* Unfortunately, The Overlord knew there was a chance that he'd eventually lose his concentration and that Kai's good side would use that to return to his body and had a backup plan: inflict pain onto the good side of Kai by having himself and the corrupted side of Kai create so much noise that it causes a "full system overload" of Kai's nervous system. Kai's pain allows the corruped side to temporarily retake control of the body as he attempts to take the other Ninja with him by infecting them, but is unsuccesful in his attempt and repeatedly fights with the good side of Kai for control of the body until it is eventually destroyed once the Ninja enter Dragon Form and proceed to defeat The Overlord's Crystal Council.
* Well, as a result of his corruption, Kai came to realize that the Overlord's true goal was to gain control over the Elements of Creation by corrupting them. In order to prevent the Overlord from corrupting the power of Creation, the Ninja sacrifice their powers and bring the Golden Weapons together to free their powers and protect them from the Overlord and are turned into Crystal Zombies shortly after.

''Fanfic/ShadowsOfAmethyst'' ([[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14332712/1/Shadows-of-Amethyst link]]): The Overlord, also known as the Crystal King, returns after his previous defeat by launching an attack on Ninjago City and painfully corrupts the city's civilians into Crystal Zombies. When Lloyd, Garmadon and Harumi try to put an end to his evil schemes, The Overlord severly injures Garmadon and breaks Lloyd's arm during his fight against the heroes. Upon entering a partnership with The Omega while also having the intent to wipe the Oni out afterwards, The Overlord corrupts Kai into his puppet and has him infiltrate the Newspaper Warehouse in an attempt to infect all of the other Ninja. Once Kai tries to fight back against his corruption, The Overlord tries to keep him under his control by causing a "full-system overload" his nerve system. When The Omega's attempts to convince Lloyd to join the Oni fails, The Overlord reveals that he wasn't intending on upholding his side of the bargain and tries to kill him alongside Lloyd before attempting to destroy the Balance by corrupting the Elements of Creation.

* Returning to Ninjago as the Crystal King, The Overlord launched an attacked Ninjago City, during which several of its inhabitants were turned into Crystal Zombies who mindlessly wandered the streets looking for people to infect, a process that is stated to be short but painful.
* When Lloyd and Garmadon camr to the Crystal Temple to end The Overlord's latest evil scheme, he turned into his centaur form and fought against them and the recently redeemed Harumi, who turned against him after he revealed that he was indirectly responsible for the death of her parents by corrupting the Great Devourer. The Overlord manages to overwhelm the heroes, with him having seemingly broken Lloyd's left arm during the fight and causing the Green Ninja to pass out. Garmadon distracts The Overlord to give Harumi a chance to bring Lloyd to safety. The Overlord eventually overwhelms Garmadon and heavily injures him, leaving Garmadon with two broken ribs, a broken arm and leg and several bandages around his body, with it being stated that Garmadon would've died without medical attention.

The short answer is no, the slightly longer answer?:

* Moral agency isn't an issue either, as the canon version has it, and the events of past Seasons are treated as fully canon, so this version did absorb Lloyd's Golden Powers.

Worst in the fic and the baseline isn't an issue, as the fic treats the events of past Seasons and, by extension, all of his canon crimes prior to ''Crystalized'' as canon and he has the same end goal of usurping the Powers of Creation as his original counterpart . The Overlord also has a few additional crimes within the fic, like heavily harming Lloyd and Garmadon during his fight against them, painfully corrupting Kai into a puppet and uses a nasty way of keeping him in check once Kai starts fighting back against the corruption and it's stated that

"Yes" to The Overlord, [[SarcasmMode what a shocker]].

''Fanfic/ShadowsOfAmethyst'' ([[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14332712/1/Shadows-of-Amethyst link]]): The Overlord is the embodiment of evil who seeks to corrupt the Elements of Creation in his quest to destroy the Balance. Resurfacing in the present as the Crystal King, The Overlord launches an attack on Ninjago City, painfully turns its inhabitants into Crystal Zombies and severly injures Garmadon when fighting against him and Lloyd. Entering a partnership with The Omega while intending to wipe the Oni out afterwards, The Overlord painfully corrupts Kai into his puppet and has him infiltrate the Newspaper Warehouse in an attempt to infect all of the other Ninja. Once Kai tries to fight back against his corruption, The Overlord tries to keep him under his control by overloading his nerve system. After The Omega's attempts to convince Lloyd to join the Oni fails, The Overlord reveals that he wasn't intending on upholding his side of the bargain and tries to kill The Omega alongside Lloyd and the other Ninja before being defeated once more.

* Prior to the beginning of the fic, The Overlord returned as the Crystal King and attacked Ninjago City. During this attack, several of its inhabitants were turned into Crystal Zombies who mindlessly wandered the streets looking for people to infect, a process that is stated to be short but painful.
* Shortly before the beginning of Chapter 1, The Overlord turned into his centaur form and fought against Lloyd, Garmadon and the recently redeemed Harumi, who turned against him after he revealed that he was indirectly responsible for the death of her parents by corrupting the Great Devourer. The Overlord manages to overwhelm the heroes, with him having seemingly broken Lloyd's left arm during the fight and causing the Green Ninja to pass out. Garmadon distracts The Overlord to give Harumi a chance to bring Lloyd to safety. The Overlord eventually overwhelms Garmadon and heavily injures him, leaving Garmadon with two broken ribs, a broken arm and leg and several bandages around his body, with it being stated that Garmadon would've died without medical attention.

Same character as his canon counterpart, so no redeeming qualities here.

He's the worst in the fic and I don't think the baseline is an issue: The fic treats the events of past Seasons and, by extension, all of his canon crimes prior to ''Crystalized'' as canon; he has the same end goal of usurping the Powers of Creation as his original counterpart and heavily harms Lloyd and Garmadon during his fight with them; he painfully corrupts Kai into a puppet and uses a nasty way of keeping him in check once Kai starts fighting back against the corruption and it's stated within the fic that The Overlord would wipe out the Oni once the opportunity was given to him.

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''Fanfic/ShadowsOfAmethyst'': The Overlord is the embodiment of evil and shown to be as monsterous as his canon counterpart.

''Fanfic/ShadowsOfAmethyst'' is a ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}'' fanfic written by Sivinightfury. The fic serves as a psuedo-rewrite of ''Crystalized'' and is intented to "fix" some of its more divisive elements, like Harumi's redemption and the Overlord's defeat, and seemingly follows up from the point after the Overlord reveals that he was behind the Great Devourer's corruption and (indirectly) the death of Harumi's parents, although the timeline doesn't 100% add up.\\\

The fic is told from a First-Person Perspective that switches between Kai's and Lloyd as the latter goes on a mental and physical journey in his attempt to master his Oni form to stop the Overlord's plan to destroy the Balance, alongside encountering an old enemy who has made a temporary alliance with the Overlord.

* Prior to the beginning of the fic, The Overlord returned as the Crystal King and attacked Ninjago City. During this attack, several of its inhabitants were turned into Crystal Zombies who mindlessly wander the streets looking for people to infect, a process which is stated to be short, but painful.
* Shortly before the beginning of Chapter 1, The Overlord turned into his centaur form and fought against Lloyd, Garmadon and the recently redeemed Harumi, who turned against him after he revealed that he was indirectly responsible for the death of her parents by corrupting the Great Devourer. The Overlord manages to overwhelm the heroes, with him having seemingly broken Lloyd's left arm during the fight and causing the Green Ninja to pass out. Garmadon distracts The Overlord to give Harumi a chance to bring Lloyd to safety. The Overlord eventually overwhelms Garmadon and heavily injures him, leaving Garmadon with two broken ribs, a broken arm and leg, several bandages around his body and Garmadon would've died without medical attention.

* When Kai wakes up, it's revealed that The Overlord has made a bargain with the Omega to corrupt Lloyd to the point where his Oni side becomes the most prominent in exchange for the Omega's assistence against the Elemental Masters. The Overlord grabs Kai when he tries to warn Lloyd about his plans and proceeds to painfully corrupt the Fire Ninja by holding him and zapping him with his dark powers. Kai attempts to resist the Overlord's corruption, with his breathes getting heavier and with Kai becoming unable to talk due to focussing on resisting The Overlord's corruption, but he eventually fails and is turned into the Overlord's puppet.
* The Overlord then has The Omega disguise the corrupted Kai and sends him out to infiltrate the Ninja's lair and infect them and keeps his concentration of Kai to insure the plan is a succes. However, it turns out that Kai isn't fully corrupted as there still is an aspect of him that's good. When The Overlord is distracted while fighting Lloyd, he temporarily loses his concentration over Kai, which allows the good side to return to consciousness and temporarily retake control of his body.

No, The Overlord is the same sadistic ManipulativeBastard as his canon counterpart and the fic makes it clear he's not intentending on keeping his side of the bargain with the Omega. While The Overlord is referred to as the embodiment of evil, Moral agency isn't an issue either, as the canon version has moral agency and the fic takes place after the event that gave his canon version agency (namely absorbing the powers of light in ''Rebooted'').

All of his canon crimes before ''Crystalized'' (as the events of past seasons are treated as fully canon) + turning most of Ninjago into Crystal Zombies, a process that's implied to be painful + painfully corrupting Kai into his puppet by using his dark powers, + the same end goal of corrupting the powers of creation as his original counterpart. I'd say the Overlord is heinous enough to qualify in regards to the canno standard and he's the worst within the fic bar none as The Omega and Vangelis (two of the original show's [=CMs=]) don't do anything that would make them particularly stand out within the context of the fic

''Proposal ends on 5/1 at 12:00 PM in my timezone'':
* ''A Villager's Night'' ([[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtMj8U0wYW-Ghx6P7uHat-BYqTMEt8jkv link]]): Steve is a nasty owner of Villager slaves and [[AdaptationalVillainy far worse than his original counterpart]]. Launching an attack on Hehr's village, Steve maims a dozen villagers, slaughters several others, kills the Iron Golem and kidnaps the village's workers. Locking the kidnapped villagers in his dungeon, Steve forces them to make items for him in exchange for emeralds and kills a female Villager who fails to give him an item by [[AMoltenDateWithDeath bathing her in lava]]. When Larr rebels against Steve by destroying a lantern he had to make for him, Steve instead [[KickTheDog kills his brother Beehr out of spite]] by giving him a lava bath.

''Take this to the Image Pickin thread if/when Steve gets approved by the thread'':
[[quoteright:864:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/steve_kills_villager_with_arrows.png]]
[[caption-width-right:864:''"He burned us to the ground... SLAUGHTERED our brothers... and MURDERED.... Our one protector..."'']]

* ''A Villager's Night'' ([[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtMj8U0wYW-Ghx6P7uHat-BYqTMEt8jkv link]]): [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Steve]] is the one behind the attack on Hehr's village and is shown to be [[AdaptationalVillainy worse than his original counterpart]]. Launching an assault on Hehr's village, Steve maims a dozen villagers, slaughters several others, kills the Iron Golem and captures the village's workers. Locking the captured villagers in his dungeon, Steve forces them to make items for him in exchange for emeralds and kills a female Villager who fails to give him an item by [[AMoltenDateWithDeath bathing her in lava]]. When Larr rebels against Steve by destroying a lantern he had to make for him, Steve instead [[KickTheDog kills his brother Beehr out of spite]] by giving him a lava bath.

''Fanfic/ShadowsOfAmethyst'' is a ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}'' fanfic written by Sivinightfury. The fic serves as a rewrite of the final few episodes ''Crystalized'' and is intented to "fix" some of its more divisive elements, like Harumi's redemption and the Overlord's defeat, and seemingly follows up from the point after the Overlord reveals that he was behind the Great Devourer's corruption and (indirectly) the death of Harumi's.\\\

* Prior to the beginning of the fic, The Overlord returned as the Crystal King and attacked Ninjago City. During this attack, several of its inhabitants were turned into Crystal Zombies who mindlessly wander the streets looking for people to infect,

All of his canon crimes before ''Crystalized'' (as the events of past seasons are treated as fully canon) + turning most of Ninjago into Crystal Zombies, a process that's implied to be painful + painfully corrupting Kai into his puppet by using his dark powers, + the same end goal of corrupting the powers of creation as his original counterpart. I'd say the Overlord is heinous enough to qualify and he's the worst within the fic bar none as The Omega and Vangelis (two of the original show's [=CMs=]) don't do anything new that would make them stand out compared to this version of The Overlord.

"Yes" to The Overlord, shocker.

* Shortly before the beginning of Chapter 1, The Overlord turned into his centaur form and fought against Lloyd, Garmadon and the recently redeemed Harumi, who turned against him after he revealed that he was indirectly responsible for the death of her parents by corrupting the Great Devourer. The Overlord manages to overwhelm the heroes, with him having seemingly broken Lloyd's left arm during the fight and causing the Green Ninja to pass out. Garmadon distracts The Overlord to give Harumi a chance to bring Lloyd to safety. The Overlord eventually overwhelms Garmadon....
* Following in Lloyd's escape, The Overlord has his Crystal Army retreat from the Ninja's hideout at the warehouse to lower the Ninja's guard for a surprise attack. In order to prepare for that surprise attack, Wu has at least two of the Ninja patrol the block and has two of the Ninja stay behind to guard the warehouse. When Kai and Lloyd are sent to patrol the block surrounding the warehouse, they are attacked by a Dragonide

The fic treats everything from the show up until the end of ''Crystalized'' canon, so shares most of the crimes of his canon counterpart like corrupting the Great Devourer and all the misery and destruction that spawned from the giant serpent.

"Yes" to The Overlord, what a surprise.

TBA

This version of the Overlord has all of his canon crimes up until the end of ''Crystalized'', like creating the Great Devourer (who eventually killed Harumi's parents) and turning the inhabitants of Ninjago City into Crystal Zombies.

Short Answer? No!\\
Slightly longer answer?
* While The Overlord is stated to be the embodiment of evil within the fic, he doesn't have moral agency issues as the canon version does have moral agency and the event that gave the canon version agency did take place as the timeline only splits after that event.
* The Overlord does make a bargain with The Omega, it's made clear that he won't hold up his end of the deal.
!! Are they bad enough?
TBA

TBA

** Nothing as of now

[[folder: TBA]]

!! Who are they and what have they done?
TBA

!! Are they bad enough?
TBA

''Take this to the Image Pickin thread and add the image if/when Steve gets approved by the thread'':
[[caption-width-right:300:''"He burned us to the ground... SLAUGHTERED our brothers... and MURDERED.... Our one protector..."'']]

-> ''"He burned us to the ground... SLAUGHTERED our brothers... and MURDERED.... Our one protector..."''
-->-- '''Hehr'' on '''Steve''', ''A Villager's Night'', "Part 3"

For Characters/NinjagoVillains
* EvilChancellor: He serves as the Ice Emperor's advisor and convinces him to commit his various crimes, like the genocide of the Yetis and the freezing of the Formlings' village. [[spoiler: It's revealed that he attempted to become this to Grimfax in the past by manipulating him into attacking the Formlings and is also responsible for the Ice Emporer becoming evil in the first place wiping Zane's memory and manipulating the Ice Ninja into thinking that he's the real ruler of the Never-Realm.]]

** ''Avocado Animations'': Look if [[VideoGame/{{Minecraft}} Steve]] from ''A Villager's Night'' could count. (No, This is not a joke)

!! Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?

!! How are they Magnificent?

!! How are they a Bastard? How are they not too bad?

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[[folder: Steve (A Villager's Night)]]
Soooo, remember when the ''Avocado Animations'' version of [[Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory Willy Wonka]] [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16738556630A78599000&page=1636#comment-40894 was proposed and it led to an extremely divisive debate]]? Well, after seeing a comment mentioning this series and, more importantly, remembering the things that '''''didn't''''' make Wonka so divisive, I think this character ''might'' have a shot and is at the very least worth the discussion even if he's rejected.\\\

For those of you who are skeptical about this candidate's migating factors, I've included a link to the series so that you can watch it can come to your own conclusions about this character's qualifications. Also the series isn't over yet, but it's been around 1 year and 8 months since the last episode released and it'll likely be a long time before the series is finished, so I think it's fine to discuss him now.

''[[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtMj8U0wYW-Ghx6P7uHat-BYqTMEt8jkv A Villager's Night]]'' is a series of ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' animations made by ''Avocado Animations'', a Platform/{{YouTube}} Channel most known for making ''WebAnimation/VelmaMeetsTheOriginalVelma'' and videos that parody other [=YouTubers=] like Mr. Beast and [=SSSniperwolf=].\\\

The series centers around Herh, a Villager who wakes up one night to find his village being attacked by the evil Steve, who slaughtered several of the villagers and enslaved some of the others. In the period after the attack, Herh decides to set out into the wild in his quest to avenge his fellow villagers and the Iron Golem, who served as the village's defender and Herh's best friend.
!! Who is Steve and what has he done?
Steve is the person behind the attack on Herh's village, a nasty owner of Villager slaves and a far cry from the blank slate PlayerCharacter that is [[VideoGame/{{Minecraft}} his original counterpart]].
* Steve first appears launching an attack on Herh's village. During his attack, Steve kills and maims the villagers by shooting them with arrows and slicing them with his sword. As a result of said attack, some of the villagers start fleeing, with a baby villager crying while there's fire all around the village. The Iron Golem that serves as the village's defender tries to stop Steve, but he is defeated by the menace and ultimately killed. It is noted within Part 2 that, during this attack, a dozen villagers were maimed by Steve, with several other villagers being killed (as shown by the cremated bodies at the start of part 3).
* Beyond the Villagers who died or were maimed during Steve's attack, there were also a few Villagers missing. As it turns out, these missing villagers were kidnapped and enslaved by Steve. Steve locked them into cells and forced them to make items for him. If the Villagers make the items for him and deliver them on time, then Steve grants them an Emerald. The Villagers that don't have an item for Steve, well.... they undergo a different fate, a worse one.
* When Steve comes to collect his items from the villagers within his dungeon, Steve passes by a Villager who couldn't make any items for him due to her hand being injured, but she pleads to him to give her 2 more days to make the items for him. Steve decides to respond to the Villager's pleading.... by dumping lava on her, causing the Villager to burn to death.
* After coldly murdering the female Villager with lava, Steve passes by Larr's cell. Larr, in rebellion to Steve's slavery and desiring death, crushes the lantern he was forced to make for Steve and accepts his molten fate. Steve is not pleased by Larr's resilience and frowns towards him, but he doesn't kill him by dumping lava on him. Unfortunately for Larr, Steve instead decides to press the button above his brother Beehr's cell out of spite, dumping lava on him, leading to Beehr's death. Larr is horrifed at his brother's murder as Steve drops his Stoic expression as Steve starts smiling towards the horrifed Larr. After this Steve leaves his dungeon to seemingly grab a sharp weapon with blood on it and returns to Larr's cell, possibly intent on harming or killing Larr.
* And that's all of Steve's actions within the series up until now, as the series isn't over yet and it's been around 1 year and 8 months since the last part released with no indication that the next part of the series will come out soon.

There are a few things that need to be discussed regarding redeeming traits.
* While Steve does not kill his slaves and gives them emeralds when they make him items, I doubt that this is meant to be redeeming as the only alternative for the Villager slaves is to suffer AMoltenDateWithDeath and he never shows any signs of kindness towards the slaves that make his items. I'd personally say that Steve only gave his slaves emeralds to prevent them from rebelling.
* While Steve doesn't kill Hehr when passing by him during his attack on the village and only stares at him, there isn't any indication that this moment is meant to be redeeming, as Steve retains the same Stoic facial expression he wears most of the time and doesn't say a single word towards Hehr that would imply he's sparing Hehr as a PetTheDog moment.
Unlike Wonka, canon redeeming qualities aren't an issue as Steve is a blank slate PlayerCharacter within the original game and ''Minecraft'' doesn't have a proper plot anyway.\\\

On another note, Steve doesn't have a lot of characterization, given that he has no dialogue and retains the same facial expression for most of the series, but I think there's enough here to evade prevent him being a GenericDoomsdayVillain. Steve frowns towards Larr for destroying his lantern, spitefully murders Beehr as retribution for his defiance, and subsequently smiles towards the shocked and horrified Larr, giving the indication that Steve is a {{sadist}} who takes pleasure in Larr's shock and grief and that he's also willing to harm others if his slaves rebel against him.\\\

Now that we've looked at all the other stuff, let's talk about the ElephantInTheRoom: comedy. I can understand why some would be concerned about this, as the concept of ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' Steve being a psychopath who slaughters and enslaves Villagers is a little silly and the series is made by a channel that produces a lot of BlackComedy videos. However, I personally believe that comedy isn't an issue for Steve, as the concept is played entirely seriously without there being any proper comedic moments in the series outside the sponsorship segments, which are not canon to the main series anyway.\\\

Furthermore, there's a lot of effort put in the series with it featuring actually dramatic moments and engaging character interactions, so the work isn't shock value and has a substantial enough plot in my eyes. With all that in mind, I'd say the series is closer to something like ''Webcomic/TheBikiniBottomHorror'' (which was originated in a [[Website/{{Reddit}} Subreddit]] for horror-themed ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'' art and has a premise that is a little silly, but taken entirely seriously) than a ''WebAnimation/{{Dorkly}}'' video (which are entirely PlayedForLaughs with rarely any attempt to tell a serious story).
!! Is he bad enough?
Steve's the only actively villainous character, so he sets the heinous standard. The baseline isn't an issue either, as Steve slaughters at least 3 villagers and the village's Iron Golem onscreen during his attack. Dialogue also states that Steve maimed dozens during his attack, with some of the surviving villagers being shown to be injured and several bodies are seen cremated at the beginning of Part 3.\\\

Furthermore, Steve has also enslaved some of the villagers and is shown killing a female Villager who fails to give him an item by bathing her in lava and spitefully murders Beehr in the same way, just because Larr destroyed his lantern in his rebellion against Steve.

I'm a weak "yes to Steve", but I'm still not entirely sure on him as a candidate. Please keep the discussion civil.

[[folder: TBA]]
!! What is the work?
TBA
!! Who are they and what have they done?
TBA
!! Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?
TBA
!! Are they bad enough?
TBA
!! Final verdict?
TBA
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Soooo, remember when the ''Avocado Animations'' version of [[Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory Willy Wonka]] [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16738556630A78599000&page=1636#comment-40894 was proposed and it led to an extremely divisive debate]]? Well, after seeing a comment mentioning this series and, more importantly, remembering the things that '''''didn't''''' make Wonka so divisive, I think this character is at the very least worth the discussion even if he's rejected.\\\

Also the series isn't over yet, but it's been around 1 year and 8 months since the last episode released and it'll likely be a long time before the series is finished, so I think it's fine to discuss him now.

* Steve first appears launching an attack on Herh's village. During his attack, Steve kills and maims the villagers by shooting them with arrows and slicing them with his sword. As a result of said attack, some of the villagers start fleeing, with a baby villager crying while there's fire all around the village. The Iron Golem that serves as the village's defender tries to stop Steve, but he is defeated by the menace and ultimately killed. It is noted within Part 2 that, during this attack, a dozen villagers were maimed by Steve, with several other villagers being killed.
* Beyond the Villagers who died or were maimed during Steve's attack, there were also a few Villagers missing. As it turns out, these missing villagers were kidnapped and enslaved by Steve. Steve locked them into cells and forcing them to make items for him. If the villagers make the items for him and deliver them on time, then Steve grants them an Emerald. The villagers that don't have an item for Steve, well.... they undergo a different fate, a worse one.

* After coldly murdering the female Villager with lava, Steve passes by Larr's cell. Larr, in rebellion to Steve's slavery and desiring death, crushes the lantern he was forced to make for Steve and accepts his molten fate. Steve is not pleased by Larr's resilience and frowns towards him, but he doesn't kill him by dumping lava on him. Unfortunately for Larr, Steve instead decides to press the button above his brother Beehr's cell out of spite, dumping lava on him, leading to Beehr's death. Larr is horrifed at his brother's murder as Steve drops his Stoic expression as Steve starts smiling towards the horrifed Larr. After this Steve leaves his dungeon a sharp weapon with blood on it as he approaches Larr's cell, seemingly intent on harming or killing Larr.

* While Steve doesn't kill Hehr when passing by him during his attack on the village and only stares at him, there isn't any indication that this moment is meant to be redeeming, as Steve retains the same Stoic facial expression he wears most of the time and doesn't say a single word towards Hehr that would imply he's sparing Hehr as a PetTheDogMoment.

On another note, Steve doesn't have a lot of characterization, given that he has no dialogue and retains the same facial expression for most of the series, but I'd there's enough here to evade him being a GenericDoomsdayVillain. Steve frowns towards Larr for destroying his lantern, spitefully murders Beehr as retribution for his defiance, and subsequently smiles towards the shocked and horrified Larr, giving the indication that Steve is a sadist who takes pleasure in Larr's shock and grief.\\\

The other villains within the series are a Spider and Skeleton, who only attack Hehr, so Steve sets the heinous standard. The baseline isn't an issue either, as Steve slaughters at least 3 villagers and the village's Iron Golem onscreen during his attack. Dialogue also states that Steve maimed dozens during his attack, with some of the surviving villagers being shown to be injured and several bodies are seen cremated at the beginning of Part 3.\\\

The concept is a little silly, but taken entirely seriously, so comedy ain't an issue in my eyes. I am a "yes" to this version of Steve, but please keep the discussion civil.