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'''Adjunct Lorn:'''

Adjunct Lorn is the right hand of Empress Laseen. She takes it upon herself to find out what caused the massacre in Itko Kan, and takes Ganoes Paran under her wing. [[spoiler:She is killed at the end of ''Gardens of the Moon'', and Tavore Paran takes her place.]]
* ActionGirl: That sword at her side is not just for show, and thanks to her Claw training, she can hold her own in combat.
* BeneathTheMask: [[DoubleSubversion Double Subverted.]] As Adjunct, there's an expectation that Lorn's real personality would take the backseat to her persona as Adjunct and right hand of the Empress. Except Lorn ''is'' the Adjunct -- indoctrinated from a young age to serve the Empress. The young woman named Lorn [[EmptyShell never had a chance to emerge]]. But then she meets Tattersail and it's revealed, to Lorn's own surprise, that she never grew past the girl who witnessed the massacre in the Mouse Quarter.
* BrokenBird: Lorn is likely not much older than Ganoes Paran, whom she calls young and assigns to her own staff, but is all-around the detached, professional soldier and Adjunct to the Empress. But when accidentally confronted with her past, she loses all common sense.
* CoolSword: Her longsword, which is also a sign of her office, is made of Otataral, a magic-negating ore.
* DarkAndTroubledPast: [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed.]] When confronted with the death of her family during the riot in the Mouse Quarter of Malaz City and her childhood in the Claw, who kept the fact of her family's death from her for years, she is reminded by both Dujek Onearm and Tayschrenn that her past ceased to matter the moment she became the Adjunct.
* TheDragon: Lorn shares the duty with Topper, but as [[SecretPolice Master of the Claw]] Topper is much less visible than the Adjunct.
* DroppedABridgeOnHer: [[spoiler:After trying to kill the Coin Bearer, Lorn is murdered in a back alley by Meese and Irilta, two Phoenix Inn regulars.]] She lampshades the irony herself when Paran finds her:
--> '''Adjunct Lorn:''' Do you see... the irony, Ganoes Paran? No... glorious end... for the Adjunct.
* EmptyShell: In the course of ''Gardens of the Moon'', Lorn comes to realise that she is nothing beyond her Adjunct persona -- the woman behind the mask has no ambitions, opinions or personality.
* HarmfulToMinors: As a child, Lorn witnessed the riot in the Mouse Quarter when the mage cadre sent to deal with illegal magic lost control and the army had to be sent in as well.
* HeelRealization: Lorn has a crisis of faith when she realises the Empress may not be as great as she believed, and that, by extention, this also applies to her cause.
* MouthOfSauron: The Adjunct is the extention of the Empress's will and voice.
* RedemptionRejection: Tool offers Lorn a chance to join him instead of returning to the Empire, but she decides to continue with her mission, [[spoiler:and gets herself killed as a result]].
* TragicVillain: Lorn follows her orders without questions asked, as the Empress is always right, but not because she particularly enjoys it. This causes Ganoes Paran to come to see her as a bad person, especially in the face of her willingness to release the Jaghut Tyrant just to win Darujhistan. She eventually realises how expendable she is to the Empress, but by then it's too late.
* WeaponOfXSlaying: Her Otataral sword is especially effective against mages, due to its magic-negating properties.

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'''Adjunct Lorn:'''

Adjunct Lorn is the right hand of Empress Laseen. She takes it upon herself to find out what caused the massacre in Itko Kan, and takes Ganoes Paran under her wing. [[spoiler:She is killed at the end of ''Gardens of the Moon'', and
Tavore Paran:'''

Tavore Paran takes is the middle child of the noble House Paran (specializing in the trade of wine and horses), a year younger than her place.brother Ganoes and three years older than her sister Felisin. She has a habit of trying to make up for what she perceives as Ganoes' failings. Upon his fall from grace and the death of Adjunct Lorn, she is chosen by Empress Laseen as the new Adjunct. Like the other two children of House Paran, Tavore is central to the events of the series.
* AntiHero: Adjunct Tavore lacks pretty much all typical heroic traits, and is a loner whose motives are rather questionable for most of the series, going so far as to openly admit -- in a rare moment of saying ''something'' -- that she expects her army, the Bonehunters, to die unwitnessed for a cause they know nothing about. [[spoiler:Turns out Tavore is planted firmly on the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism idealistic side]] and intends to right an ancient wrong even if it costs the lives of all her soldiers and makes her look like the villain.
]]
* ActionGirl: That sword at ButchLesbian: Tavore wears her side hair short, no make-up or other adornments, prefers practical clothes and armour, and is not just a scholar of war. In contrast, her lover T'amber leans towards LipstickLesbian.
* TheChessmaster: Tavore is responsible
for show, and thanks to her Claw training, she can hold her own in combat.
* BeneathTheMask: [[DoubleSubversion Double Subverted.]] As Adjunct, there's an expectation that Lorn's real personality would take the backseat to her persona as Adjunct and right hand
a huge part of the Empress. Except Lorn ''is'' latter half of the Adjunct -- indoctrinated from a young age series, and even other chessmasters like Shadowthrone fail to serve see through her plans. Even her brother Ganoes Paran can only shrug and trust in his sister.
--> '''Ganoes Paran:''' Think of all
the Empress. The young woman named Lorn [[EmptyShell never had a chance great military leaders – Dassem, Coltaine, K'azz, Dujek, Greymane – for what it is worth, I would pit my sister against any of them. Gods below, against ''all'' of them.
* ChildProdigy: According
to emerge]]. But then she meets Tattersail and it's revealed, to Lorn's own surprise, that she never grew past the girl who witnessed the massacre in the Mouse Quarter.
* BrokenBird: Lorn is likely not much older than
Ganoes Paran, whom she calls young and assigns in regards to her own staff, but is all-around military strategy. By the detached, professional soldier and Adjunct to the Empress. But when accidentally confronted with her past, she loses age of five, Tavore knew all common sense.
* CoolSword: Her longsword, which is also a sign of her office, is made of Otataral, a magic-negating ore.
* DarkAndTroubledPast: [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed.]] When confronted with the death of her family during the riot in the Mouse Quarter of Malaz City and her childhood in the Claw, who kept the fact of her family's death
there was to know from her for years, history books and scrolls. By the age of seven, she is reminded by both Dujek Onearm was able to defeat visiting High Fists in mock battles, and Tayschrenn that her past ceased later again, she went on to matter take the moment she became the Adjunct.
* TheDragon: Lorn shares the duty with Topper, but as [[SecretPolice Master
sides of the Claw]] Topper is much less visible than losing parties in historic battles and device ways for them to ''win''.
* DefectorFromDecadence: Renounces her noble roots and betrays
the Adjunct.
* DroppedABridgeOnHer: [[spoiler:After trying to kill the Coin Bearer, Lorn is murdered in a back alley by Meese and Irilta, two Phoenix Inn regulars.]] She lampshades the irony herself when Paran finds her:
--> '''Adjunct Lorn:''' Do you see... the irony, Ganoes Paran? No... glorious end... for the Adjunct.
* EmptyShell: In the course of ''Gardens of the Moon'', Lorn comes to realise that she is nothing beyond her Adjunct persona -- the woman behind the mask has no ambitions, opinions or personality.
* HarmfulToMinors: As a child, Lorn witnessed the riot in the Mouse Quarter when the mage cadre sent to deal with illegal magic lost control and the army had to be sent in as well.
* HeelRealization: Lorn has a crisis of faith when she realises the Empress may not be as great as she believed, and that, by extention, this also applies to her cause.
* MouthOfSauron: The Adjunct is the extention of the Empress's will and voice.
* RedemptionRejection: Tool offers Lorn a chance to join him instead of returning to the Empire, but she decides to continue with her mission, [[spoiler:and gets herself killed as a result]].
* TragicVillain: Lorn follows her orders without questions asked, as the Empress is always right, but not because she particularly enjoys it. This causes Ganoes Paran to come to see her as a bad person, especially in the face of her willingness to release the Jaghut Tyrant just to win Darujhistan. She eventually realises how expendable she is
nobility to the Empress, but by resulting in the culling of the noble houses and many noble eitehr kileld or deported into slavery. However, the nobility were getting a bit too comfortable with buying military posts and indulgences, and thus indirectly destroying the empire from the inside. Later one, [[spoiler:she does it again, this time renouncing her allegiance to Empress Laseen and taking her whole army with her. To be fair, though, Laseen betrayed her first.]]
* TheDragon: Like Adjunct Lorn, whose place she takes, Tavore Paran is Empess Laseen's right hand. However, she also is a..
* DragonWithAnAgenda: ..and that agenda goes far beyond what a mortal should be able to achieve, and far beyond the borders of the Malazan Empire. [[spoiler:She wants to right the anchient wrong that is the imprisonment of the Crippled God, all because she feels compassion for him.]] Even the gods are appalled.
* TheDutifulDaughter: Subverted. In ''Literature/GardensOfTheMoon'', this is what Tavore seems to be -- when Ganoes returns home between assignments, she gives him a talking to for running off to join the army. Then, after Paran's falling from grace and Adjunct Lorn's death, she takes on the position of Adjunct to restore the family's honour. Except [[spoiler:that this is hinted to have been the moment she decided there's no kill like overkill and hedged her plan to safe the world]].
* EmotionlessGirl: Justified,
then it's too late.
deconstructed. Tavore has a mission she set upon herself and any show of emotion that might distract from that is unwelcome. However, part of why she sets out to [[spoiler:cross half the world and free the Crippled God]] is due to guilt over what happened to Felisin and -- of all things -- ''compassion'', and what it gets her is the suspicion and dislike of her troops and allies, to whom she remains an enigma. When, in ''The Crippled God'', Deadsmell gets a glance at her inner turmoil, he has a minor {{BSOD}}.
* WeaponOfXSlaying: Her FourStarBadass: Zig-Zagged. For the majority of the series, people keep questioning what qualifies Tavore Paran to lead an army, as she is young and untested. Then the full range of her abilities, plans and motivations are revealed. Also, in contrast to Adjunct Lorn, Tavore is actually in charge of an army, while we only ever saw Lorn interact with a few underlings.
* TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry: Deconstructed. Tavore is the older, smarter and plain sister, and Felisin the younger, prettier and shallower one. They still love each other, but it spirals completely out of control when Tavore becomes the Adjunct and has Felisin shipped off to the
Otataral sword mines as a slave. She perceives this as the lesser of two evils, but naturally, Felisin disagrees and [[CainAndAbel vows to kill Tavore]].
* HiddenDepths: It takes time to peel all the layers away. At first, Tavore seems like a ruthless noble [[DefectorFromDecadence who betrayed her own]], including her family, to further her own ambitions. Then she
is especially effective against mages, due shown to its magic-negating properties.have planned Felisin's resque all along, but comes off as an inexperienced commander. Except she is actually the [[TheStrategist strategist]]. [[spoiler:Who betrays the Empress for unexplained, possibly personal goals. Of course, those goals are to save the world. At which she might even have outmaneuvered Shadowthrone and Cotillion.]] And then there's her connection to the [[SecretPolice Talon]], [[spoiler:and the fact she wears a Talon necklace in the final battle of the series.]]
* NoSocialSkills: Either because she naturally lacks social skills, or because she cannor be bothered with niceties, Tavore comes off as rather ungraceful, to put it mildly. Even for a military commander.
* PlainJane: Every time Tavore is described, particular attention is given to how drab, grey, unattractive and even seemingly sexless she is, seemingly lacking in personality.
* SiblingYinYang: Tavore has this with both Felisin and Ganoes, who are more like each other than like Tavore. Especially Ganoes is the idealistic dreamer who sets out to become a hero by joining the army, while Tavore is the down-to-earth strategist concerned with family honour.
* TheStrategist: Used to be a ChildProdigy in this area, and was the pre-eminent scholar of imperial war even before she became the Adjunct. Downplayed insofar as she neither looks nor acts the part, and only a few people are in the know.
* UndyingLoyalty: [[AvertedTrope Averted]]. Due to a combination of her perceived inexperience, an army composed of [[ShellShockedVeteran Shell Shocked Veterans]] and NewMeat, and Tavore's own [[NoSocialSkills utter lack of charisma]], it takes a long time before her army trusts her.
* TheUnfettered: Tavore Paran has set before her a goal, and she will sacrifice whatever needs be -- herself, her reputation, her army of thousands of soldiers, as well as her allies -- to achieve it.
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* DroppedABridgeOnHer: [[spoiler:After trying to kill the Coin Bearer, Lorn is murdered in a back alley by Meese and Irilta, two Phoenix Inn regulars. She lampshades the irony herself when Paran finds her:]]

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* DroppedABridgeOnHer: [[spoiler:After trying to kill the Coin Bearer, Lorn is murdered in a back alley by Meese and Irilta, two Phoenix Inn regulars. ]] She lampshades the irony herself when Paran finds her:]]her:



* HarmfulToMinors: As a child, Lorn witnessed the riot in the Mouse Quarter when the mage cadre sent to deal with illegal magic lost control and the army had to be sent in.

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* HarmfulToMinors: As a child, Lorn witnessed the riot in the Mouse Quarter when the mage cadre sent to deal with illegal magic lost control and the army had to be sent in.in as well.
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Adjunct Lorn is the right hand of Empress Laseen, and only answers to the Empress herself. She takes it upon herself to find out what caused the massacre in Itko Kan, and takes Ganoes Paran under her wing.

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Adjunct Lorn is the right hand of Empress Laseen, and only answers to the Empress herself.Laseen. She takes it upon herself to find out what caused the massacre in Itko Kan, and takes Ganoes Paran under her wing. [[spoiler:She is killed at the end of ''Gardens of the Moon'', and Tavore Paran takes her place.]]

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'''Empress Laseen:'''

Empress Laseen is the ruler of the Malazan Empire as of the start of ''Gardens of the Moon''. She used to be part of the Old Guard -- Emperor Kellanved's closest allies, the imperial 'family' -- and helped build the empire, but eventually took over. Depending on who's talking, she either was a server at a tavern, Napan royalty, or both.

* ActionGirl: Laseen is a [[ProfessionalKiller master assassin]] and can hold her own in combat. In ''Return of the Crimson Guard'', she fights an armed and armoured Avowed barehanded.
* AmazingTechnicolorPopulation: As a Napan, Laseen has blue skin.
* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: Laseen was the founder and leader of [[SecretPolice the Claw]] even before she took the throne, and can kick ass with the best of them.
* BadassNormal: Although many of the Old Guard qualify, she still lives in a world where Gods and Ascendants meddle in mortal affairs, and contrary to her predecessor, Laseen is not a mage, but simply a very skilled fighter.
* BadBoss: Less villainous, more incompetent, as becomes apparent as the story advances. A case of WeHaveReserves, especially in ''Return of the Crimson Guard''.
* BareFistedMonk: Prefers unadorned and simple clothing and surroundings, and fights barehanded.
* BastardUnderstudy: To Emperor Kellanved and Dancer, both of whom she assassinated -- after building her own SecretPolice to circumvent Dancer's Talon, the empire's ''other'' SecretPolice organization.
* BecomingTheMask: Zig-zagged. Whether she kept to the original Napan plan, really became Kellanved's understudy and bought into the imperial dream, or betrayed everyone depends on who's talking.
* TheChainsOfCommanding: [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Possibly]]. Laseen may have bitten off more than she could chew, and ends up seemingly powerless in the face of all of the empire's problems, as well as getting blamed for everything.
* TheChessmaster: Subverted. She has a reputation as one, but it crumbles, until she ends up trapped [[spoiler: and usurped by Mallick Rel, who's a much better poster boy for the trope]].
* DeceptiveDisciple: What ''were'' Laseen's motives? Admiral Nok implies that [[spoiler: the Napans planned to use Kellanved to destroy the Untan hegemony from the very beginning, and Kellanved's imperial ambitions just came in handy, and eventually, by getting rid of Kellanved, Laseen just took the Napan cause to it's penultimate conclusion. Except she didn't tell her co-conspirators, [[BecomingTheMask who had become loyal to the Empire]].]]
* TheEmpress: ..of the Malazan Empire, complete with the bad reputation.
* GodSaveUsFromTheQueen: She ''means'' well, but possibly bit off more than she could chew, and ends up seeming rather incompetent.
* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler: She outmaneuvered everyone, keeping her plans secret even from her closest allies (the other Napans), and got outmaneuvered herself by Mallick Rel.]]
* ICanRuleAlone: Possibly, see DeceptiveDisciple.
* IDidWhatIHadToDo: Her rationalization for pretty much everything she does -- assassinating Emperor Kellanved and Dancer, the death of Dassem Ultor, the culling of the nobility, etc.
--> '''Empress Laseen:''' An empire is greater than any lone mortal--
* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: She rose to power through assassination, and she herself is assassinated in ''Return of the Crimson Guard''.]]
* MeaningfulName: Used to be known as Surly, which described her personality and demeanor quite well. She also apparently worked as a bar maid using that name.
* MeaningfulRename: Laseen means ''Thronemaster'' in Napanese. She took the name shortly before taking the throne. Doubly meaningful if her being Napan royalty is true.
* ProfessionalKiller: Laseen is the founder of the Claw, and served as their leader.
* UngratefulBastard: Kellanved took her in, gave her a job and raised her as his understudy, yet Laseen ''still'' turned on him. [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Possibly subverted]] in that she may have had good intentions, with Kellanved having been a great conqueror, but potentially a less great ruler.
* UriahGambit: Laseen demotes Whiskeyjack and sends him and the Bridgeburners, the old Emperor's loyal favourites, to fight a hopeless war on Genabackis. Though subverted as the fact that it got most of them killed was Tayschrenn's doing.
* TheUsurper: Laseen was in change while Emperor Kellanved and Dancer were off exploring, but decided to finalize her position upon their return.

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'''Empress Laseen:'''

'''Adjunct Lorn:'''

Adjunct Lorn is the right hand of
Empress Laseen is Laseen, and only answers to the ruler Empress herself. She takes it upon herself to find out what caused the massacre in Itko Kan, and takes Ganoes Paran under her wing.
* ActionGirl: That sword at her side is not just for show, and thanks to her Claw training, she can hold her own in combat.
* BeneathTheMask: [[DoubleSubversion Double Subverted.]] As Adjunct, there's an expectation that Lorn's real personality would take the backseat to her persona as Adjunct and right hand
of the Malazan Empire Empress. Except Lorn ''is'' the Adjunct -- indoctrinated from a young age to serve the Empress. The young woman named Lorn [[EmptyShell never had a chance to emerge]]. But then she meets Tattersail and it's revealed, to Lorn's own surprise, that she never grew past the girl who witnessed the massacre in the Mouse Quarter.
* BrokenBird: Lorn is likely not much older than Ganoes Paran, whom she calls young and assigns to her own staff, but is all-around the detached, professional soldier and Adjunct to the Empress. But when accidentally confronted with her past, she loses all common sense.
* CoolSword: Her longsword, which is also a sign of her office, is made of Otataral, a magic-negating ore.
* DarkAndTroubledPast: [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed.]] When confronted with the death of her family during the riot in the Mouse Quarter of Malaz City and her childhood in the Claw, who kept the fact of her family's death from her for years, she is reminded by both Dujek Onearm and Tayschrenn that her past ceased to matter the moment she became the Adjunct.
* TheDragon: Lorn shares the duty with Topper, but
as [[SecretPolice Master of the start Claw]] Topper is much less visible than the Adjunct.
* DroppedABridgeOnHer: [[spoiler:After trying to kill the Coin Bearer, Lorn is murdered in a back alley by Meese and Irilta, two Phoenix Inn regulars. She lampshades the irony herself when Paran finds her:]]
--> '''Adjunct Lorn:''' Do you see... the irony, Ganoes Paran? No... glorious end... for the Adjunct.
* EmptyShell: In the course
of ''Gardens of the Moon''. She used Moon'', Lorn comes to realise that she is nothing beyond her Adjunct persona -- the woman behind the mask has no ambitions, opinions or personality.
* HarmfulToMinors: As a child, Lorn witnessed the riot in the Mouse Quarter when the mage cadre sent to deal with illegal magic lost control and the army had
to be part sent in.
* HeelRealization: Lorn has a crisis of faith when she realises the Empress may not be as great as she believed, and that, by extention, this also applies to her cause.
* MouthOfSauron: The Adjunct is the extention
of the Old Guard -- Emperor Kellanved's closest allies, Empress's will and voice.
* RedemptionRejection: Tool offers Lorn a chance to join him instead of returning to
the imperial 'family' -- and helped build the empire, Empire, but eventually took over. Depending on who's talking, she either was a server at a tavern, Napan royalty, or both.

* ActionGirl: Laseen is a [[ProfessionalKiller master assassin]] and can hold her own in combat. In ''Return of the Crimson Guard'', she fights an armed and armoured Avowed barehanded.
* AmazingTechnicolorPopulation: As a Napan, Laseen has blue skin.
* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: Laseen was the founder and leader of [[SecretPolice the Claw]] even before she took the throne, and can kick ass
decides to continue with the best of them.
* BadassNormal: Although many of the Old Guard qualify, she still lives in a world where Gods and Ascendants meddle in mortal affairs, and contrary to
her predecessor, Laseen is not a mage, but simply a very skilled fighter.
* BadBoss: Less villainous, more incompetent,
mission, [[spoiler:and gets herself killed as becomes apparent a result]].
* TragicVillain: Lorn follows her orders without questions asked,
as the story advances. A case of WeHaveReserves, Empress is always right, but not because she particularly enjoys it. This causes Ganoes Paran to come to see her as a bad person, especially in ''Return of the Crimson Guard''.
* BareFistedMonk: Prefers unadorned and simple clothing and surroundings, and fights barehanded.
* BastardUnderstudy: To Emperor Kellanved and Dancer, both of whom she assassinated -- after building her own SecretPolice to circumvent Dancer's Talon, the empire's ''other'' SecretPolice organization.
* BecomingTheMask: Zig-zagged. Whether she kept to the original Napan plan, really became Kellanved's understudy and bought into the imperial dream, or betrayed everyone depends on who's talking.
* TheChainsOfCommanding: [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Possibly]]. Laseen may have bitten off more than she could chew, and ends up seemingly powerless
in the face of all of her willingness to release the empire's problems, as well as getting blamed for everything.
* TheChessmaster: Subverted. She has a reputation as one, but it crumbles, until she ends up trapped [[spoiler: and usurped by Mallick Rel, who's a much better poster boy for the trope]].
* DeceptiveDisciple: What ''were'' Laseen's motives? Admiral Nok implies that [[spoiler: the Napans planned to use Kellanved to destroy the Untan hegemony from the very beginning, and Kellanved's imperial ambitions
Jaghut Tyrant just came in handy, and eventually, by getting rid of Kellanved, Laseen just took to win Darujhistan. She eventually realises how expendable she is to the Napan cause to Empress, but by then it's penultimate conclusion. Except she didn't tell her co-conspirators, [[BecomingTheMask who had become loyal to the Empire]].]]
too late.
* TheEmpress: ..of the Malazan Empire, complete with the bad reputation.
* GodSaveUsFromTheQueen: She ''means'' well, but possibly bit off more than she could chew, and ends up seeming rather incompetent.
* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler: She outmaneuvered everyone, keeping her plans secret even from her closest allies (the other Napans), and got outmaneuvered herself by Mallick Rel.]]
* ICanRuleAlone: Possibly, see DeceptiveDisciple.
* IDidWhatIHadToDo:
WeaponOfXSlaying: Her rationalization for pretty much everything she does -- assassinating Emperor Kellanved and Dancer, the death of Dassem Ultor, the culling of the nobility, etc.
--> '''Empress Laseen:''' An empire
Otataral sword is greater than any lone mortal--
* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: She rose
especially effective against mages, due to power through assassination, and she herself is assassinated in ''Return of the Crimson Guard''.]]
* MeaningfulName: Used to be known as Surly, which described her personality and demeanor quite well. She also apparently worked as a bar maid using that name.
* MeaningfulRename: Laseen means ''Thronemaster'' in Napanese. She took the name shortly before taking the throne. Doubly meaningful if her being Napan royalty is true.
* ProfessionalKiller: Laseen is the founder of the Claw, and served as their leader.
* UngratefulBastard: Kellanved took her in, gave her a job and raised her as his understudy, yet Laseen ''still'' turned on him. [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Possibly subverted]] in that she may have had good intentions, with Kellanved having been a great conqueror, but potentially a less great ruler.
* UriahGambit: Laseen demotes Whiskeyjack and sends him and the Bridgeburners, the old Emperor's loyal favourites, to fight a hopeless war on Genabackis. Though subverted as the fact that it got most of them killed was Tayschrenn's doing.
* TheUsurper: Laseen was in change while Emperor Kellanved and Dancer were off exploring, but decided to finalize her position upon their return.
its magic-negating properties.
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* UngratefulBastard: Kellanved took her in, gave her a job and raised her as his understudy, yet Laseen ''still'' turned on him. [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Possibly subverted]] in that she may have had good intentions, with Kellanved having been a great conqueror, but potentially as less great ruled.
* UriahGambit: Laseen demotes Whiskeyjack and sends him and the Bridgeburners, the former emperor's loyal favourites, to fight a hopeless war on Genabackis. Though subverted as the fact that it got most of them killed was Tayschrenn's doing.

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* UngratefulBastard: Kellanved took her in, gave her a job and raised her as his understudy, yet Laseen ''still'' turned on him. [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Possibly subverted]] in that she may have had good intentions, with Kellanved having been a great conqueror, but potentially as a less great ruled.
ruler.
* UriahGambit: Laseen demotes Whiskeyjack and sends him and the Bridgeburners, the former emperor's old Emperor's loyal favourites, to fight a hopeless war on Genabackis. Though subverted as the fact that it got most of them killed was Tayschrenn's doing.



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* IDidWhatIHadToDo: Her rationalization for pretty much everything she does -- assassinating Emperor Kellanved and Dancer, the death of Dassem Ultor, the culling of the nibility, etc.

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* IDidWhatIHadToDo: Her rationalization for pretty much everything she does -- assassinating Emperor Kellanved and Dancer, the death of Dassem Ultor, the culling of the nibility, nobility, etc.



* KarmicDeath: She rose to power through assassination, [[spoiler: and she herself is assassinated in ''Return of the Crimson Guard''.]]

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* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: She rose to power through assassination, [[spoiler: and she herself is assassinated in ''Return of the Crimson Guard''.]]



* MeaningfulRename: Laseen means Thronemaster in Napan. She took the name shortly before taking the throne. Doubly meaningful if her being Napan royalty is true.

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* MeaningfulRename: Laseen means Thronemaster ''Thronemaster'' in Napan.Napanese. She took the name shortly before taking the throne. Doubly meaningful if her being Napan royalty is true.



* UngratefulBastard: Kellanved took her in, gave her a job and raised her as his understudy, yet Laseen ''still'' turned on him. Subverted in that she may have had good intentions, with Kellanved having been a great conqueror, but potentially as less great ruled.

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* UngratefulBastard: Kellanved took her in, gave her a job and raised her as his understudy, yet Laseen ''still'' turned on him. Subverted [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Possibly subverted]] in that she may have had good intentions, with Kellanved having been a great conqueror, but potentially as less great ruled.

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* BadBoss: Less villainous, more incompetent, as becomes apprant as the story advances. A case of WeHaveReserves, especially in ''Return of the Crimson Guard''.

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler: She outmaneuvered everyone, keeping her plans secret even from her closest allies (the other Napans), and got outmaneuvered herself by Mallick Rel.]]

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'''Empress Laseen:'''

Empress Laseen is the ruler of the Malazan Empire as of the start of ''Gardens of the Moon''. She used to be part of the Old Guard -- Emperor Kellanved's closest allies, the imperial 'family' -- and helped build the empire, but eventually took over. Depending on who's talking, she either was a server at a tavern, Napan royalty, or both.

* ActionGirl: Laseen is a [[ProfessionalKiller master assassin]] and can hold her own in combat. In ''Return of the Crimson Guard'', she fights an armed and armoured Avowed barehanded.
* AmazingTechnicolorPopulation: As a Napan, Laseen has blue skin.
* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: Laseen was the founder and leader of [[SecretPolice the Claw]] even before she took the throne, and can kick ass with the best of them.
* BadassNormal: Although many of the Old Guard qualify, she still lives in a world where Gods and Ascendants meddle in mortal affairs, and contrary to her predecessor, Laseen is not a mage, but simply a very skilled fighter.
* BadBoss: Less villainous, more incompetent, as becomes apprant as the story advances. A case of WeHaveReserves, especially in ''Return of the Crimson Guard''.
* BareFistedMonk: Prefers unadorned and simple clothing and surroundings, and fights barehanded.
* BastardUnderstudy: To Emperor Kellanved and Dancer, both of whom she assassinated -- after building her own SecretPolice to circumvent Dancer's Talon, the empire's ''other'' SecretPolice organization.
* BecomingTheMask: Zig-zagged. Whether she kept to the original Napan plan, really became Kellanved's understudy and bought into the imperial dream, or betrayed everyone depends on who's talking.
* TheChainsOfCommanding: [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Possibly]]. Laseen may have bitten off more than she could chew, and ends up seemingly powerless in the face of all of the empire's problems, as well as getting blamed for everything.
* TheChessmaster: Subverted. She has a reputation as one, but it crumbles, until she ends up trapped [[spoiler: and usurped by Mallick Rel, who's a much better poster boy for the trope]].
* DeceptiveDisciple: What ''were'' Laseen's motives? Admiral Nok implies that [[spoiler: the Napans planned to use Kellanved to destroy the Untan hegemony from the very beginning, and Kellanved's imperial ambitions just came in handy, and eventually, by getting rid of Kellanved, Laseen just took the Napan cause to it's penultimate conclusion. Except she didn't tell her co-conspirators, [[BecomingTheMask who had become loyal to the Empire]].]]
* TheEmpress: ..of the Malazan Empire, complete with the bad reputation.
* GodSaveUsFromTheQueen: She ''means'' well, but possibly bit off more than she could chew, and ends up seeming rather incompetent.
* ICanRuleAlone: Possibly, see DeceptiveDisciple.
* IDidWhatIHadToDo: Her rationalization for pretty much everything she does -- assassinating Emperor Kellanved and Dancer, the death of Dassem Ultor, the culling of the nibility, etc.
--> '''Empress Laseen:''' An empire is greater than any lone mortal--
* KarmicDeath: She rose to power through assassination, [[spoiler: and she herself is assassinated in ''Return of the Crimson Guard''.]]
* MeaningfulName: Used to be known as Surly, which described her personality and demeanor quite well. She also apparently worked as a bar maid using that name.
* MeaningfulRename: Laseen means Thronemaster in Napan. She took the name shortly before taking the throne. Doubly meaningful if her being Napan royalty is true.
* ProfessionalKiller: Laseen is the founder of the Claw, and served as their leader.
* UngratefulBastard: Kellanved took her in, gave her a job and raised her as his understudy, yet Laseen ''still'' turned on him. Subverted in that she may have had good intentions, with Kellanved having been a great conqueror, but potentially as less great ruled.
* UriahGambit: Laseen demotes Whiskeyjack and sends him and the Bridgeburners, the former emperor's loyal favourites, to fight a hopeless war on Genabackis. Though subverted as the fact that it got most of them killed was Tayschrenn's doing.
* TheUsurper: Laseen was in change while Emperor Kellanved and Dancer were off exploring, but decided to finalize her position upon their return.

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* In the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', death follows its own laws:
** Dying -- for most people -- lands the deceased's soul in the Realm of the [[TheGrimReaper Lord of Death]], from where it can be plucked again by either [[TheGrimReaper Hood]] himself or with his permission. That usually ends in CameBackWrong and some form of TheUndead and should serve a greater good, or Hood will not agree.
** However, due to [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly belief]] being an actual, reality forming force, it is possible to never see Hood, but instead be [[{{Reincarnation}} reincarnated]] because a hero's people beliefe he should be, or come BackFromTheDead thanks to an ArtifactOfDoom, or to be made to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence post burial, or to become a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghost]], or to just plainly be forgotten by everyone and end up WalkingTheEarth in a FateWorseThanDeath. The rule of thumb is that being noticeable in any way, shape or form will make both life ''and'' death much more complicated, while staying a faceless farmer is the way to all-around peace of mind.

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* In --> I have seen the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', death follows its own laws:
** Dying -- for most people -- lands the deceased's soul
face of sorrow\\
She looks away
in the Realm distance\\
Across all these bridges\\
From whence I came\\
And those spans, trussed and arched\\
Hold up our lives as we go back again\\
To how we thought then\\
To how we thought we thought then\\
I have seen sorrow's face,\\
But she is ever turned away\\
And her words leave me blind\\
Her eyes make me mute\\
I do not understand what she says to me\\
I do not know if to obey\\
Or attempt a flood of tears\\
I have seen her face\\
She does not speak\\
She does not weep\\
She does not know me\\
For I am but a stone fitted in place\\
On the bridge where she walks
-->--'' Lay
of the [[TheGrimReaper Lord of Death]], from where it can be plucked again by either [[TheGrimReaper Hood]] himself or with his permission. That usually ends in CameBackWrong and some form of TheUndead and should serve a greater good, or Hood will not agree.
** However, due to [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly belief]] being an actual, reality forming force, it is possible to never see Hood, but instead be [[{{Reincarnation}} reincarnated]] because a hero's people beliefe he should be, or come BackFromTheDead thanks to an ArtifactOfDoom, or to be made to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence post burial, or to become a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghost]], or to just plainly be forgotten by everyone and end up WalkingTheEarth in a FateWorseThanDeath. The rule of thumb is that being noticeable in any way, shape or form will make both life ''and'' death much more complicated, while staying a faceless farmer is
Bridgeburners'', '''Toc the way to all-around peace of mind.
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'''Tiste Edur'''

The Tiste Edur are one of the three Tiste peoples originally alien to the series' main Realm, [[spoiler: which according to the prequel trilogy may or may not have once been all one realm]]. They are considered the Children of Shadow, the unwelcome product of a conjoining of Dark and Light, and thus looked down upon by both the Tiste Andii and the Tiste Liosan. After a civil war that shattered their home realm, they fled Kurald Emurlahn under the leadership of Scabandari Bloodeye, whom they now worship as Father Shadow, and -- after defeating the locally settled K'Chain Che'Malle -- settled on the continent of Lether. Due to a [[spoiler: deliberate]] distortion of the history of this event, they now consider themselves to be the victims of a betrayal by Silchas Ruin and his Tiste Andii followers. [[spoiler: What really happened was the opposite.]]

* BarbarianLonghair: The Tiste Edur, especially the warriors, let their hair grow long and are variously described as barbaric looking to others.
* BraidsOfBarbarism: Their BarbarianLonghair often takes the form of this, and when a warrior is cast out completely, he is Shorn -- that is, his hair is shaved off and the scalp treated with an unguent that prevents it from ever growing back.
* BraidsBeadsAndBuckskins: Braids, Shells and Sealskins, more precisely, as the Edur live in the northern climate and near the coast, but they are the closest thing the series has to a Native American FantasyCounterpartCulture.
* BlindObedience: They blindly follow their traditions, and as a consequence whoever is in charge. Also, Father Shadow can do no wrong, but unfortunately, he's not around anymore.
* BloodKnight: Prone to becoming this due to inborn blood lust.
* CastingAShadow: While Kurald Emurlahn has been shattered and sealed, thanks to Shadow being its own elemental force the Tiste Edur retain some access to their shadow-themed magic.
* ColourCodedForYourConvenience: Grey-skinned, in contrast to the midnight-skinned Tiste Andii and porcelain-skinned Tiste Liosan.
* ConditionedToAcceptHorror: Most Edur eventually become this during the course of the story, as they have nowhere else to go and speaking up is no good idea. It helps, of course, that they are naturally inclined to [[BloodKnight blood lust]].
* CultureJustifiesAnything: {{Deconstructed}}. Slavery, AggressiveCategorism, looking down on others because of their place in that society, others falling by the wayside, it's all InherentInTheSystem. It's usually subdued, but as Udinaas remarks on several occasions, all's well only until someone does something wrong, and the Edur are NotSoDifferent from their neighbouring Letherii.
* HaveYouSeenMyGod: Depending on the point of view, Father Shadow either disappeared or abandoned his children. Of course, [[spoiler: while some know where his body can be found, that does not account for his soul.]]
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: Again, deconstructed. Pretty much every Tiste Edur point-of-view character shows what this can do to people, whether they buy into it, e.g. Fear Sengar, or not, e.g. Trull Sengar.
* TrappedInVillainy: Thanks to their [[HonorBeforeReason rigid]] [[BlindObedience social]] [[CultureJustifiesAnything structure]], the Tiste Edur become this after [[spoiler: Rhulad Sengar]] proclaims himself Emperor. Some [[BloodKnight like it]], others [[HeelRealization less so]].
* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".

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\n'''Tiste Edur'''\n\n----

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The Tiste Edur are one of shadows lie on the three Tiste peoples originally alien field like the dead\\
From night's battle as the sun lifts high its standard\\
Into the dew-softened air\\
\\
The children rise like flowers on stalks\\
To sing unworded songs we long ago surrendered\\
And the bees dance with great care\\
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You might touch this scene with blessing\\
Even as you settle the weight of weapon in hand\\
And gaze across this expanse\\
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And vow
to the series' main Realm, [[spoiler: which according to the prequel trilogy may or may not have once been all one realm]]. They are considered the Children sun another day of Shadow, the unwelcome product of a conjoining of Dark and Light, and thus looked down upon by both the Tiste Andii and the Tiste Liosan. After a civil war that shattered their home realm, they fled Kurald Emurlahn under the leadership of Scabandari Bloodeye, whom they now worship as Father Shadow, and -- after defeating the locally settled K'Chain Che'Malle -- settled on the continent of Lether. Due to a [[spoiler: deliberate]] distortion of the history of this event, they now consider themselves to be the victims of a betrayal by Silchas Ruin and his Tiste Andii followers. [[spoiler: What really happened was the opposite.]]

* BarbarianLonghair: The Tiste Edur, especially the warriors, let their hair grow long and are variously described as barbaric looking to others.
* BraidsOfBarbarism: Their BarbarianLonghair often takes the form of this, and when a warrior is cast out completely, he is Shorn -- that is, his hair is shaved off and the scalp treated with an unguent that prevents it from ever growing back.
* BraidsBeadsAndBuckskins: Braids, Shells and Sealskins, more precisely, as the Edur live in the northern climate and near the coast, but they are the closest thing the series has to a Native American FantasyCounterpartCulture.
* BlindObedience: They blindly follow their traditions, and as a consequence whoever is in charge. Also, Father Shadow can do no wrong, but unfortunately, he's not around anymore.
* BloodKnight: Prone to becoming this due to inborn blood lust.
* CastingAShadow: While Kurald Emurlahn has been shattered and sealed, thanks to Shadow being its own elemental force the Tiste Edur retain some access to their shadow-themed magic.
* ColourCodedForYourConvenience: Grey-skinned, in contrast to the midnight-skinned Tiste Andii and porcelain-skinned Tiste Liosan.
* ConditionedToAcceptHorror: Most Edur eventually become this during the course of the story, as they have nowhere else to go and speaking up is no good idea. It helps, of course, that they are naturally inclined to [[BloodKnight blood lust]].
* CultureJustifiesAnything: {{Deconstructed}}. Slavery, AggressiveCategorism, looking down on others because of their place in that society, others falling by the wayside, it's all InherentInTheSystem. It's usually subdued, but as Udinaas remarks on several occasions, all's well only until someone does something wrong, and the Edur are NotSoDifferent from their neighbouring Letherii.
* HaveYouSeenMyGod: Depending on the point of view, Father Shadow either disappeared or abandoned his children. Of course, [[spoiler: while some know where his body can be found, that does not account for his soul.]]
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: Again, deconstructed. Pretty much every Tiste Edur point-of-view character shows what this can do to people, whether they buy into it, e.g. Fear Sengar, or not, e.g. Trull Sengar.
* TrappedInVillainy: Thanks to their [[HonorBeforeReason rigid]] [[BlindObedience social]] [[CultureJustifiesAnything structure]], the Tiste Edur become this after [[spoiler: Rhulad Sengar]] proclaims himself Emperor. Some [[BloodKnight like it]], others [[HeelRealization less so]].
* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".
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-->-- Untitled, '''Toc Anaster'''
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* CultureJustifiesAnything: [[Deconstructed]]. Slavery, AggressiveCategorism, looking down on others because of their place in that society, others falling by the wayside, it's all InherentInTheSystem. It's usually subdued, but as Udinaas remarks on several occasions, all's well only until someone does something wrong, and the Edur are NotSoDifferent from their neighbouring Letherii.
* HaveYouSeenMyGod: Depending on the point of view, Father Shadow either disappeared or abandoned his children. Of course, while some know where his body can be found, that does not account for his soul.
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: Again, deconstructed. Pretty much every Tiste Edur PoV character shows what this can do to people, whether they buy into it, e.g. Fear Sengar, or not, e.g. Trull Sengar.

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* CultureJustifiesAnything: [[Deconstructed]].{{Deconstructed}}. Slavery, AggressiveCategorism, looking down on others because of their place in that society, others falling by the wayside, it's all InherentInTheSystem. It's usually subdued, but as Udinaas remarks on several occasions, all's well only until someone does something wrong, and the Edur are NotSoDifferent from their neighbouring Letherii.
* HaveYouSeenMyGod: Depending on the point of view, Father Shadow either disappeared or abandoned his children. Of course, [[spoiler: while some know where his body can be found, that does not account for his soul.
soul.]]
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: Again, deconstructed. Pretty much every Tiste Edur PoV point-of-view character shows what this can do to people, whether they buy into it, e.g. Fear Sengar, or not, e.g. Trull Sengar.

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The Tiste Edur are one of the three Tiste peoples originally alien to the series' main Realm, [[spoiler: which according to the prequel trilogy may or may not have once been all one realm]]. They are considered the Children of Shadow, the unwelcome product of a conjoining of Dark and Light, and thus looked down upon by both the Tiste Andii and the Tiste Liosan. After a civil war that shattered their home realm, they fled Kurald Emurlahn under the leadership of Scabandari Bloodeye, whom they now worship as Father Shadow, and -- after defeating the locally settled K'Chain Che'Malle -- settled on the continent of Lether. Due to a [[spoiler: deliberate]] distortion of the history of this event, they now consider themselves to be the victims of a betrayal by Silchas Ruin and his Tiste Andii followers. [[spoiler: What really happened was the opposite.]]



* CastingAShadow: While Kurald Emurlahn has been shattered and sealed, thanks to Shadow being its own elemental force the Tiste Edur retain some access to their shadow-themed magic.
* ColourCodedForYourConvenience: Grey-skinned, in contrast to the midnight-skinned Tiste Andii and porcelain-skinned Tiste Liosan.



* CultureJustifiesAnything: {{Deconstructed}}. Slavery, AggressiveCategorism, looking down on others because of their place in that society, others falling by the wayside, it's all InherentInTheSystem. It's usually subdued, but as Udinaas remarks on several occasions, all's well only until someone does something wrong.
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: Again, deconstructed. Pretty much every Tiste Edur PointOfView character shows what this can do to people, whether they buy into it, e.g. Fear Sengar, or not, e.g. Trull Sengar.

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* CultureJustifiesAnything: {{Deconstructed}}.[[Deconstructed]]. Slavery, AggressiveCategorism, looking down on others because of their place in that society, others falling by the wayside, it's all InherentInTheSystem. It's usually subdued, but as Udinaas remarks on several occasions, all's well only until someone does something wrong.
wrong, and the Edur are NotSoDifferent from their neighbouring Letherii.
* HaveYouSeenMyGod: Depending on the point of view, Father Shadow either disappeared or abandoned his children. Of course, while some know where his body can be found, that does not account for his soul.
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: Again, deconstructed. Pretty much every Tiste Edur PointOfView PoV character shows what this can do to people, whether they buy into it, e.g. Fear Sengar, or not, e.g. Trull Sengar.
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* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".


* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' [[AscendedFridgeHorror deconstructs]] this with the [[TheCaligula Emperor of the Tiste Edur]]. Every inch of his skin is [[GemEncrusted studded with gold coins]] which were [[BodyHorror burned into his flesh]], leaving what little skin remains visible horribly scarred. Additionally, the mass of gold is so heavy it has turned what used to be a LongHairedPrettyBoy into a hulking monster. And all that while the Tiste Edur [[WorthlessYellowRocks don't even care about gold]] and only use it in burial rituals to mock their [[ConspicuousConsumption wealth-worshipping]] neighbouring nation.

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* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".


* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' [[AscendedFridgeHorror deconstructs]] this with the [[TheCaligula Emperor of the Tiste Edur]]. Every inch of his skin is [[GemEncrusted studded with gold coins]] which were [[BodyHorror burned into his flesh]], leaving what little skin remains visible horribly scarred. Additionally, the mass of gold is so heavy it has turned what used to be a LongHairedPrettyBoy into a hulking monster. And all that while the Tiste Edur [[WorthlessYellowRocks don't even care about gold]] and only use it in burial rituals to mock their [[ConspicuousConsumption wealth-worshipping]] neighbouring nation.
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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' deconstructs this with the [[TheCaligula Emperor of the Tiste Edur]]. Every inch of his skin is [[GemEncrusted studded with gold coins]] which were [[BodyHorror burned into his flesh]], leaving what little skin remains visible horribly scarred. Additionally, the mass of gold is so heavy it has turned what used to be a LongHairedPrettyBoy into a hulking monster. And all that while the Tiste Edur [[WorthlessYellowRocks don't even care about gold]] and only use it in burial rituals to mock their [[ConspicuousConsumption wealth-worshipping]] neighbouring nation.

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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' deconstructs [[AscendedFridgeHorror deconstructs]] this with the [[TheCaligula Emperor of the Tiste Edur]]. Every inch of his skin is [[GemEncrusted studded with gold coins]] which were [[BodyHorror burned into his flesh]], leaving what little skin remains visible horribly scarred. Additionally, the mass of gold is so heavy it has turned what used to be a LongHairedPrettyBoy into a hulking monster. And all that while the Tiste Edur [[WorthlessYellowRocks don't even care about gold]] and only use it in burial rituals to mock their [[ConspicuousConsumption wealth-worshipping]] neighbouring nation.
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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' deconstructs this with the [[TheCaligula Emperor of the Tiste Edur]]. Every inch of his skin is [[GemEncrusted studded with gold coins]] which were [[BodyHorror burned into his flesh]], leaving what little skin remains visible horribly scarred. Additionally, the mass of gold is so heavy it has turned what used to be a LongHairedPrettyBoy into a hulking monster. And all that while the Tiste Edur [[WorthlessYellowRocks don't even care about gold]] and only use it in burial rituals to mock their {{ConspicuousConsumption}}-obsessed neighboring nation.

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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' deconstructs this with the [[TheCaligula Emperor of the Tiste Edur]]. Every inch of his skin is [[GemEncrusted studded with gold coins]] which were [[BodyHorror burned into his flesh]], leaving what little skin remains visible horribly scarred. Additionally, the mass of gold is so heavy it has turned what used to be a LongHairedPrettyBoy into a hulking monster. And all that while the Tiste Edur [[WorthlessYellowRocks don't even care about gold]] and only use it in burial rituals to mock their {{ConspicuousConsumption}}-obsessed neighboring [[ConspicuousConsumption wealth-worshipping]] neighbouring nation.
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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' deconstructs this with the [[TheCaligula Emperor of the Tiste Edur]]. Every inch of his skin is [[Gem-Encrusted studded with gold coins]] which were [[BodyHorror burned into his flesh]], leaving what little skin remains visible horribly scarred. Additionally, the mass of gold is so heavy it has turned what used to be a LongHairedPrettyBoy into a hulking monster. And all that while the Tiste Edur [[WorthlessYellowRocks don't even care about gold]] and only use it in burial rituals to mock their {{ConspicuousConsumption}}-obsessed neighboring nation.

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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' deconstructs this with the [[TheCaligula Emperor of the Tiste Edur]]. Every inch of his skin is [[Gem-Encrusted [[GemEncrusted studded with gold coins]] which were [[BodyHorror burned into his flesh]], leaving what little skin remains visible horribly scarred. Additionally, the mass of gold is so heavy it has turned what used to be a LongHairedPrettyBoy into a hulking monster. And all that while the Tiste Edur [[WorthlessYellowRocks don't even care about gold]] and only use it in burial rituals to mock their {{ConspicuousConsumption}}-obsessed neighboring nation.
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* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".

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* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".sort".


* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' deconstructs this with the [[TheCaligula Emperor of the Tiste Edur]]. Every inch of his skin is [[Gem-Encrusted studded with gold coins]] which were [[BodyHorror burned into his flesh]], leaving what little skin remains visible horribly scarred. Additionally, the mass of gold is so heavy it has turned what used to be a LongHairedPrettyBoy into a hulking monster. And all that while the Tiste Edur [[WorthlessYellowRocks don't even care about gold]] and only use it in burial rituals to mock their {{ConspicuousConsumption}}-obsessed neighboring nation.
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* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".


CastingAShadow

* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deity (Father Shadow), and [[InsistentTerminology Warrens]] (Paths of Magic) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten magical assassination technique.

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* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".


CastingAShadow

* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deity (Father Shadow), and [[InsistentTerminology Warrens]] (Paths of Magic) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten magical assassination technique.
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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deities (Father Shadow and his Daughters -- Dawn, Dusk and Dapple), and [[InsistentTerminology Warrens]] (Paths of Magic) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten magical assassination technique.

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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deities deity (Father Shadow and his Daughters -- Dawn, Dusk and Dapple), Shadow), and [[InsistentTerminology Warrens]] (Paths of Magic) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten magical assassination technique.
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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deities (Father Shadow and his Daughters -- Dawn, Dusk and Dapple), and Warrens ([[InsistentTerminology Paths of Magic]]) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten magical assassination technique.

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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deities (Father Shadow and his Daughters -- Dawn, Dusk and Dapple), and Warrens ([[InsistentTerminology Paths [[InsistentTerminology Warrens]] (Paths of Magic]]) Magic) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten magical assassination technique.
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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deities (Father Shadow and his Daughters -- Dawn, Dusk and Dapple), and Warrens (Paths of Magic) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten magical assassination technique.

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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deities (Father Shadow and his Daughters -- Dawn, Dusk and Dapple), and Warrens (Paths ([[InsistentTerminology Paths of Magic) Magic]]) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten magical assassination technique.
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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deities (Father Shadow and his Daughters -- Dawn, Dusk and Dapple), and Warrens (Paths of Magic) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten assassination technique. Incidentally, one of the two shadow-related gods worshipped by humans is known as the Rope and serves as the [[ProfessionalKiller Patron of Assassins]]. The [[MasterOfIllusion other]] is considered a [[NoPunIntended shady]], insane {{Chessmaster}}. And those are just the basics, the series loves all things Darkness/Shadow related.

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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deities (Father Shadow and his Daughters -- Dawn, Dusk and Dapple), and Warrens (Paths of Magic) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten magical assassination technique. Incidentally, one of the two shadow-related gods worshipped by humans is known as the Rope and serves as the [[ProfessionalKiller Patron of Assassins]]. The [[MasterOfIllusion other]] is considered a [[NoPunIntended shady]], insane {{Chessmaster}}. And those are just the basics, the series loves all things Darkness/Shadow related.technique.
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* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".

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* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".sort".


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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has a whole mythology built around the relationship between [[DarkIsNotEvil Dark]] and [[LightIsNotGood Light]], with Shadow being their unwanted child and a separate element. It comes complete with it's own Realm (Kurald Emulahn), [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy people]] (the Tiste Edur, or Children of Shadow), deities (Father Shadow and his Daughters -- Dawn, Dusk and Dapple), and Warrens (Paths of Magic) accessible to humans: Meanas, the Path of Shadow and Illusion, and Rashan, the Path of Darkness. While Meanas is descended from Kurald Emurlahn, the ''Elder'' Warren of Shadow, and Rashan from Kurald Galain, the ''Elder'' Warren of Darkness, the human ''Cult'' of Rashan is also known as the Cult of ''Shadow'' and teaches a technique called the "Shadow Dance", an all but forgotten assassination technique. Incidentally, one of the two shadow-related gods worshipped by humans is known as the Rope and serves as the [[ProfessionalKiller Patron of Assassins]]. The [[MasterOfIllusion other]] is considered a [[NoPunIntended shady]], insane {{Chessmaster}}. And those are just the basics, the series loves all things Darkness/Shadow related.
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* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: Again, deconstructed. Pretty much every Tiste Edur PoV character shows what this can do to people, whether they buy into it, e.g. Fear Sengar, or not, e.g. Trull Sengar.

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* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: Again, deconstructed. Pretty much every Tiste Edur PoV PointOfView character shows what this can do to people, whether they buy into it, e.g. Fear Sengar, or not, e.g. Trull Sengar.
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* CultureJustifiesAnything: [[Deconstructed]]. Slavery, AggressiveCategorism, looking down on others because of their place in that society, others falling by the wayside, it's all InherentInTheSystem. It's usually subdued, but as Udinaas remarks on several occasions, all's well only until someone does something wrong.

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* CultureJustifiesAnything: [[Deconstructed]].{{Deconstructed}}. Slavery, AggressiveCategorism, looking down on others because of their place in that society, others falling by the wayside, it's all InherentInTheSystem. It's usually subdued, but as Udinaas remarks on several occasions, all's well only until someone does something wrong.



* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'', how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".

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* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. This is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]] by the reader being aware of what really happened from the beginning of the book, and by how irrelevant their secret knowledge evetually is. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'', ''Literature/ReapersGale'' how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".

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* TrappedInVillainy: Thanks to their [[HonorBeforeReason rigid]] [[BlindObedience social]] [[CultureJustifiesAnything structure]], the Tiste Edur become this after [[spoiler: Rhulad Sengar]] proclaims himself Emperor. Some [[BloodKnight like it]], others [[HeelRealization less so]].

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* BarbarianLonghair: The Tiste Edur, especially the warriors, let their hair grow long and are variously described as barbaric looking to others.
* BraidsOfBarbarism: Their BarbarianLonghair often takes the form of this, and when a warrior is cast out completely, he is Shorn -- that is, his hair is shaved off and the scalp treated with an unguent that prevents it from ever growing back.
* BraidsBeadsAndBuckskins: Braids, Shells and Sealskins, more precisely, as the Edur live in the northern climate and near the coast, but they are the closest thing the series has to a Native American FantasyCounterpartCulture.
* BlindObedience: They blindly follow their traditions, and as a consequence whoever is in charge. Also, Father Shadow can do no wrong, but unfortunately, he's not around anymore.
* BloodKnight: Prone to becoming this due to inborn blood lust.
* ConditionedToAcceptHorror: Most Edur eventually become this during the course of the story, as they have nowhere else to go and speaking up is no good idea. It helps, of course, that they are naturally inclined to [[BloodKnight blood lust]].
* CultureJustifiesAnything: [[Deconstructed]]. Slavery, AggressiveCategorism, looking down on others because of their place in that society, others falling by the wayside, it's all InherentInTheSystem. It's usually subdued, but as Udinaas remarks on several occasions, all's well only until someone does something wrong.
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: Again, deconstructed. Pretty much every Tiste Edur PoV character shows what this can do to people, whether they buy into it, e.g. Fear Sengar, or not, e.g. Trull Sengar.
* TrappedInVillainy: Thanks to their [[HonorBeforeReason rigid]] [[BlindObedience social]] [[CultureJustifiesAnything structure]], the Tiste Edur become this after [[spoiler: Rhulad Sengar]] proclaims himself Emperor. Some [[BloodKnight like it]], others [[HeelRealization less so]].so]].
* WomensMysteries: The women are the ones who keep the true records of their history, while the warriors get watered down and diluted versions. Shurq Elalle points out in ''Literature/ReapersGale'', how Tiste Edur women seem to be "completely useless mystics of some sort".
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* TrappedInVillainy: Thanks to their [[HonorBeforReason rigid]] [[BlindObedience social]] [[CultureJustifiesAnything structure]], the Tiste Edur become this after [[spoiler: Rhulad Sengar]] proclaims himself Emperor. Some [[BloodKnight like it]], others [[HeelRealization less so]].

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* TrappedInVillainy: Thanks to their [[HonorBeforReason [[HonorBeforeReason rigid]] [[BlindObedience social]] [[CultureJustifiesAnything structure]], the Tiste Edur become this after [[spoiler: Rhulad Sengar]] proclaims himself Emperor. Some [[BloodKnight like it]], others [[HeelRealization less so]].

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* BodyHorror: As a result of the Tiste Edur burial practise, Rhulad ends up completely covered with gold coined melted into his flesh, [[FacialHorror face included]].

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* BodyHorror: As a result of the Tiste Edur burial practise, Rhulad ends up completely covered with gold coined melted into his flesh, [[FacialHorror face included]].included]].


'''Tiste Edur'''

* TrappedInVillainy: Thanks to their [[HonorBeforReason rigid]] [[BlindObedience social]] [[CultureJustifiesAnything structure]], the Tiste Edur become this after [[spoiler: Rhulad Sengar]] proclaims himself Emperor. Some [[BloodKnight like it]], others [[HeelRealization less so]].
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** However, due to [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly belief]] being an actual, reality forming force, it is possible to never see Hood, but instead be [[{{Reincarnation}} reincarnated]] because a hero's people beliefe he should be, or come BackFromTheDead thanks to an ArtifactOfDoom, or to be made to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence post burial, or to become a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghost]], or to just plainly be forgotten by everyone and end up WalkingTheEarth in a FateWorseThanDeath. The rule of thumb is that being noticeable in any way, shape or form will make both life ''and'' death much more complicated, while staying a faceless farmer is the way to all-around peace of mind.

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** However, due to [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly belief]] being an actual, reality forming force, it is possible to never see Hood, but instead be [[{{Reincarnation}} reincarnated]] because a hero's people beliefe he should be, or come BackFromTheDead thanks to an ArtifactOfDoom, or to be made to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence post burial, or to become a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghost]], or to just plainly be forgotten by everyone and end up WalkingTheEarth in a FateWorseThanDeath. The rule of thumb is that being noticeable in any way, shape or form will make both life ''and'' death much more complicated, while staying a faceless farmer is the way to all-around peace of mind.mind.



* AnnoyingYoungerSibling: Rhulad seems to be the youngest of the Sengar brothers by a noticeable gap, as he did not get to fight in the Unification Wars just past at the start of ''Literature/MidnightTides''. He is clever enough to know how to yank Trull's chain and enjoys doing so, as Trull is the only one showing any reaction. Also, typical for a teenager, Rhulad only notices Mayen ''after'' she and Fear get betrothed, and starts starts prancing before her and lusting after her in a case of wanting what his older brother has.
* ArtifactOfDoom: Grabs the sword sent by the Crippled God in the heat of battle and ends up [[ClingyMacGuffin attached to it forever]]. The sword [[ResurrectiveImmortality keeps resurrecting him]] every time he dies, painfully, and driving him mad, though it also grants him extraordinary strength and skill.
* BackFromTheDead: After he is initially killed, and even after the burial rites are well underway, Rhulad is brought back by the Crippled God via his ArtifactOfDoom.
* BigEgoHiddenDepths: Rhulad is a much more layered character than his AnnoyingYoungerSibling behaviour lets on at first, however it takes a serious horror show for that to surface. By the time he starts trying to get his shit together it's way too late and he can't help himself slipping back into his old persona again and again.
* BlessedWithSuck: Sure, the sword makes him functionally immortal, stronger and better at fighting, and gives him a mental link to a godly advisor, but it also makes him the sockpuppet of the Crippled God, to be toyed with and tortured as the latter sees fit.
* BodyHorror: As a result of the Tiste Edur burial practise, Rhulad ends up completely covered with gold coined melted into his flesh, [[FacialHorror face included]].
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* In the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', death follows its own laws:
** Dying -- for most people -- lands the deceased's soul in the Realm of the [[TheGrimReaper Lord of Death]], from where it can be plucked again by either [[TheGrimReaper Hood]] himself or with his permission. That usually ends in CameBackWrong and some form of TheUndead and should serve a greater good, or Hood will not agree.
** However, due to [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly belief]] being an actual, reality forming force, it is possible to never see Hood, but instead be [[{{Reincarnation}} reincarnated]] because a hero's people beliefe he should be, or come BackFromTheDead thanks to an ArtifactOfDoom, or to be made to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence post burial, or to become a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghost]], or to just plainly be forgotten by everyone and end up WalkingTheEarth in a FateWorseThanDeath. The rule of thumb is that being noticeable in any way, shape or form will make both life ''and'' death much more complicated, while staying a faceless farmer is the way to all-around peace of mind.

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