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* A non-villain example in [[spoiler:Luke fon Fabre]] from ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. [[spoiler:Luke begins the game as a selfish, bratty, extremely naive ManChild JerkWithAHeartOfGold due to his sheltered and spoiled upbringing since his kidnapping and gaining "[[BlankSlate amnesia]]". After his MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment where he is forced into destroying a whole town by the BigBad, he spends the rest of the game trying to convince the entire world that he's changed his ways. The above quote comes after Jade shows that he clearly doesn't trust Luke after meeting up with him, and Anise has a similar reaction when meeting with Luke again. Considering Luke has been recently revealed to be [[YoungerThanTheyLook actually seven]] as he's the replica of the original Luke and he was [[BlamedForBeingRailroaded set up to fail from the start]], this treatment can come across as extremely harsh to the audience.]]
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* ''VisualNovel/ExtraCaseMyGirlfriendsSecrets'': In the ninth ending, [[spoiler:Sally turns herself in for the murders "Seira"/Shadow committed, but these crimes go public, resulting in endless harassment that causes her to relapse into Shadow. Marty realizes that even if she serves out her sentence, she'll never be able to return to a normal life.]]
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Characters who [[ReformedButRejected struggle to be accepted while making a sincere effort to reform]] in VideoGames.
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* In ''VideoGame/AITheSomniumFilesNirvanaInitiative'', Lien was a former thief that often worked with the [[{{Yakuza}} Kumakura family]], but eventually left that life behind and went clean. He started working at the Horadori Institute of Genetics as a janitor, but when Chikara found out about his criminal past, he fired Lien, believing nobody who had sank to such depths could ever rise again. Riichi is also extremely distrustful of Lien for roughly the same reason, in one route going as far as [[spoiler:hiring a band of mercenaries to try and kill him]] just so Lien would give up on his daughter, Kizuna.
* In ''VideoGame/CityOfHeroes'', Julianne Thompson had trouble getting heroes to support her ideas for improving the world because of her criminal record charges... that had been manufactured against her by a crooked politician she was trying to expose. Obviously, at some point she snapped, because she eventually became Countess Crey, one of the game's [[MoralEventHorizon nastiest enemies]]. You can meet an alternate version of Thompson in AnotherDimension where Nemesis has taken over; there, free of her criminal background, she's one of the leaders of LaResistance.
* In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' this is a possible fate for the game's first BigBad, [[WellIntentionedExtremist Teyrn Loghain Mac Tir]]. After being beaten in a duel by [[PlayerCharacter the Warden]], Loghain surrenders peacefully and seems to express genuine remorse for his past actions. The player is then given the option to either execute him on the spot, or offer him a chance at redemption by allowing him to join the Grey Wardens instead. If allowed to join, Loghain is sincere in his desire to redeem himself and will even be willing to sacrifice his life to kill the Archdemon in the FinalBattle. However, for many players (and [[TheLancer Alistair]], for whom Loghain's betrayal at Ostagar [[ItsPersonal was personal]]) it was far too little far too late, and many players just cut his head off right there.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' has the main character Cecil undergo a transformation from [[ItWasHisSled a Dark Knight to a Paladin]]. The regular [=NPCs=] in the world don't care, but in the town of Mysidia, which Cecil helped attack in the prologue, several of the townsfolk are bewildered that ''he'' [[http://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-IV-Advance-and-DS/Update%2012/3-image004.png of all people managed to become a Paladin]] and a number of them outright state they don't care if he's a paladin and still hate him.
* Definitely how Cyan views Celes in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'', and despite his outward reactions, there's enough of this going on subconsciously that Locke initially believes it when Kefka spins some story about how Celes was a spy planted among the Returners (she wasn't).
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'':
** ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy Of The Holy War]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemThracia776 Thracia 776]]'' use this. The Loptrians are descendants of a ReligionOfEvil that forged a ruthless EvilEmpire in the past. Despite abandoning the evil qualities of their worship or even trying to abandon the religion, the Loptrians were [[WitchHunt witch hunted]] and forced to survive in a barren wasteland. This resulted in the Loptr Church under Manfroy [[ThenLetMeBeEvil reviving their evil practices and once again]] trying to take over the continent.
** ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn Radiant Dawn]]'' has a non-villainous example in Rolf's mother, who [[ParentalAbandonment abandoned]] him, Boyd and Oscar at a young age after their father became fatally ill. She reappears in ''RD'', but Rolf decides he does not need her in his life.
** ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]'' gives us a rare male BrokenBird in the form of [[spoiler:King Gangrel... [[AxCrazy yes, that Gangrel]]. Should you recruit him in his Spotpass chapter, the player will discover, via supports and quotes, that he regrets ''all'' of the actions that he did for the first part of the game on an incredibly deep level, and he has absolutely nothing left to fight for. The Avatar cuts him a break (moreso if a female Avatar marries him), and he even looks out for [[LaserGuidedAmnesia Emmeryn]], the same woman he wanted dead, if she joins your group. Despite most of his actions being unjustifiable, Chrom is never able to forgive him. And Gangrel is ''painfully'' aware of how this is a consequence of his own actions -- even when he had a bit of a FreudianExcuse of his mother dying, this is not enough of a reason for him to do the horrible things he did. (Walhart and Aversa, the other Atoners of the game, at least did the just-as-bad things they did after being brainwashed/manipulated by the Grimleal, unlike Gangrel who did them ''out of his own will''.)]]
* A non-villain example in [[spoiler:Luke fon Fabre]] from ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. [[spoiler:Luke begins the game as a selfish, bratty, extremely naive ManChild JerkWithAHeartOfGold due to his sheltered and spoiled upbringing since his kidnapping and gaining "[[BlankSlate amnesia]]". After his MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment where he is forced into destroying a whole town by the BigBad, he spends the rest of the game trying to convince the entire world that he's changed his ways. The above quote comes after Jade shows that he clearly doesn't trust Luke after meeting up with him, and Anise has a similar reaction when meeting with Luke again. Considering Luke has been recently revealed to be [[YoungerThanTheyLook actually seven]] as he's the replica of the original Luke and he was [[BlamedForBeingRailroaded set up to fail from the start]], this treatment can come across as extremely harsh to the audience.]]
* ''VideoGame/Injustice2'' has Hal Jordan (Green Lantern) and Barry Allen (The Flash) have a HeelFaceTurn from the previous game where they willingly surrendered after realizing that serving in Superman's regime wasn't a good idea after all. Both men deal with the hardship of themselves trying to reform while the citizens don't trust them. Barry does his best to keep going despite the distrust while Hal is tired of everyone not giving him a second chance despite how much hell he had to go through to become a Green Lantern again. Barry convinces him to keep fighting for what's right no matter what, which eventually gets Batman to start trusting Hal again. Harley Quinn, who used to be the bad girl for the Joker, also deals with similar problems after joining Batman, but she doesn't let it bother her.
* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro'', even though she had been BrainwashedAndCrazy under Malefor's control, there are still [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer many characters]] who still distrust Cynder post-reformation, despite her and Spyro doing their best to save the world.
* ''Franchise/MassEffect'' lets you do this to various people.
** Subverted with [[spoiler:Elnora]], who puts on a façade of being an air-headed repenter, but in fact displays disturbing sociopathy in her ApocalypticLog.
** Most characters... [[TheDragon Saren]], or [[TheChessmaster the Illusive Man]], or even [[BigBad Harbinger]] or Morinth are people Shepard can at least be civil to. Not so with Gavin Archer: Shepard shows utter disgust that he tortured his autistic brother regardless of alignment, and if s/he sees him in the third game, s/he treats him like utter shit.
* ''VideoGame/MurderedSoulSuspect'': The protagonist Ronan O'Connor is a ReformedCriminal who became a member of the Salem Police Department; regardless, his fellow officer, Baxter, adamantly refused to see him as anything but another crook.
* In ''VideoGame/RomancingSaGa: Minstrel Song'', one of the short stories BrokenBird Schiele tells your hero takes a particularly cruel twist on this: [[spoiler:A reformed pirate raises several children he had orphaned, only to have them take out their revenge after reaching adulthood.]]
* ''VideoGame/SoulSeries'': After getting over the [[DemonicPossession influences]] of [[ArtifactOfDoom Soul Edge]], Siegfried runs into this quite a few times, most often from vengence-seekers searching for [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Nightmare, the Azure Knight.]]
* The aversion of this trope is notable in the Sith Warrior story in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic''. After [[spoiler:the betrayal of Malavai Quinn (in the beta you could kill him as a result but in the final game you can't kill your companions)]] there isn't even a hint in the conversations that the player character might not trust him because of those events, which would actually be very understandable.
* In ''[[VideoGame/TraumaCenter Trauma Team]]'', Maria loudly and violently rejects CR-S01's genuine attempts to make amends for the crime he might have committed, driving him into a HeroicBSOD which he has to be talked out of by the agent who captured him. After this, he ''does'' manage to convince Maria of his good intentions, but the initial rejection was pretty harsh.
* ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChroniclesII'' has Sigrid Essel, a former member of the rebels join Class G after Reiner's event. As expected, no one in the academy is warm to his defection from the rebels, and his classmates question Avan's judgement in allowing him to join with them. He's even accused of being a spy for the rebels, which he has to endure day in and day out.
* Happens to [[spoiler:Aribeth]] in ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights'' even if the player character [[ForgivenButNotForgotten personally forgave]] [[spoiler:her]]. Then [[TraumaCongaLine it happens again]] before you meet [[spoiler:her]] in ''Hordes of the Underdark''.
* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'':
** This happens for a short time in if you play a Death Knight. After the prologue area, you are teleported to Stormwind or Ogrimmar, and face lynch mobs demanding your death. Thankfully, speaking with Thrall or Varian provides enough reputation so this isn't too much of an issue for death knight players.
** Later, in Borean Tundra, Thassarian is sent on a SuicideMission by General Arlos (who is later revealed to have been brainwashed by a Scourge agent).
** The Forsaken are undead who managed to break free from the Lich King's control through sheer willpower and simply want the right to exist. The fact that their own brothers and sisters want them destroyed has only made them more bitter toward the living.
** This is also half the reason for the game's overall storyline; the Alliance understandably has a hard time accepting that the new Horde is ideologically opposed to the one that razed their cities to the ground. The fact that they're still a war-like people who raze their cities to the ground doesn't help.
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!!Warning: As this trope deals with attempted [[HeelFaceTurn Heel-Face Turns]] - more specifically with those meeting resistance and the natural consequences thereof - spoilers naturally abound.
Characters who [[ReformedButRejected struggle to be accepted while making a sincere effort to reform]] in VideoGames.
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* In ''VideoGame/AITheSomniumFilesNirvanaInitiative'', Lien was a former thief that often worked with the [[{{Yakuza}} Kumakura family]], but eventually left that life behind and went clean. He started working at the Horadori Institute of Genetics as a janitor, but when Chikara found out about his criminal past, he fired Lien, believing nobody who had sank to such depths could ever rise again. Riichi is also extremely distrustful of Lien for roughly the same reason, in one route going as far as [[spoiler:hiring a band of mercenaries to try and kill him]] just so Lien would give up on his daughter, Kizuna.
* In ''VideoGame/CityOfHeroes'', Julianne Thompson had trouble getting heroes to support her ideas for improving the world because of her criminal record charges... that had been manufactured against her by a crooked politician she was trying to expose. Obviously, at some point she snapped, because she eventually became Countess Crey, one of the game's [[MoralEventHorizon nastiest enemies]]. You can meet an alternate version of Thompson in AnotherDimension where Nemesis has taken over; there, free of her criminal background, she's one of the leaders of LaResistance.
* In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' this is a possible fate for the game's first BigBad, [[WellIntentionedExtremist Teyrn Loghain Mac Tir]]. After being beaten in a duel by [[PlayerCharacter the Warden]], Loghain surrenders peacefully and seems to express genuine remorse for his past actions. The player is then given the option to either execute him on the spot, or offer him a chance at redemption by allowing him to join the Grey Wardens instead. If allowed to join, Loghain is sincere in his desire to redeem himself and will even be willing to sacrifice his life to kill the Archdemon in the FinalBattle. However, for many players (and [[TheLancer Alistair]], for whom Loghain's betrayal at Ostagar [[ItsPersonal was personal]]) it was far too little far too late, and many players just cut his head off right there.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' has the main character Cecil undergo a transformation from [[ItWasHisSled a Dark Knight to a Paladin]]. The regular [=NPCs=] in the world don't care, but in the town of Mysidia, which Cecil helped attack in the prologue, several of the townsfolk are bewildered that ''he'' [[http://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-IV-Advance-and-DS/Update%2012/3-image004.png of all people managed to become a Paladin]] and a number of them outright state they don't care if he's a paladin and still hate him.
* Definitely how Cyan views Celes in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'', and despite his outward reactions, there's enough of this going on subconsciously that Locke initially believes it when Kefka spins some story about how Celes was a spy planted among the Returners (she wasn't).
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'':
** ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy Of The Holy War]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemThracia776 Thracia 776]]'' use this. The Loptrians are descendants of a ReligionOfEvil that forged a ruthless EvilEmpire in the past. Despite abandoning the evil qualities of their worship or even trying to abandon the religion, the Loptrians were [[WitchHunt witch hunted]] and forced to survive in a barren wasteland. This resulted in the Loptr Church under Manfroy [[ThenLetMeBeEvil reviving their evil practices and once again]] trying to take over the continent.
** ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn Radiant Dawn]]'' has a non-villainous example in Rolf's mother, who [[ParentalAbandonment abandoned]] him, Boyd and Oscar at a young age after their father became fatally ill. She reappears in ''RD'', but Rolf decides he does not need her in his life.
** ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]'' gives us a rare male BrokenBird in the form of [[spoiler:King Gangrel... [[AxCrazy yes, that Gangrel]]. Should you recruit him in his Spotpass chapter, the player will discover, via supports and quotes, that he regrets ''all'' of the actions that he did for the first part of the game on an incredibly deep level, and he has absolutely nothing left to fight for. The Avatar cuts him a break (moreso if a female Avatar marries him), and he even looks out for [[LaserGuidedAmnesia Emmeryn]], the same woman he wanted dead, if she joins your group. Despite most of his actions being unjustifiable, Chrom is never able to forgive him. And Gangrel is ''painfully'' aware of how this is a consequence of his own actions -- even when he had a bit of a FreudianExcuse of his mother dying, this is not enough of a reason for him to do the horrible things he did. (Walhart and Aversa, the other Atoners of the game, at least did the just-as-bad things they did after being brainwashed/manipulated by the Grimleal, unlike Gangrel who did them ''out of his own will''.)]]
* A non-villain example in [[spoiler:Luke fon Fabre]] from ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. [[spoiler:Luke begins the game as a selfish, bratty, extremely naive ManChild JerkWithAHeartOfGold due to his sheltered and spoiled upbringing since his kidnapping and gaining "[[BlankSlate amnesia]]". After his MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment where he is forced into destroying a whole town by the BigBad, he spends the rest of the game trying to convince the entire world that he's changed his ways. The above quote comes after Jade shows that he clearly doesn't trust Luke after meeting up with him, and Anise has a similar reaction when meeting with Luke again. Considering Luke has been recently revealed to be [[YoungerThanTheyLook actually seven]] as he's the replica of the original Luke and he was [[BlamedForBeingRailroaded set up to fail from the start]], this treatment can come across as extremely harsh to the audience.]]
* ''VideoGame/Injustice2'' has Hal Jordan (Green Lantern) and Barry Allen (The Flash) have a HeelFaceTurn from the previous game where they willingly surrendered after realizing that serving in Superman's regime wasn't a good idea after all. Both men deal with the hardship of themselves trying to reform while the citizens don't trust them. Barry does his best to keep going despite the distrust while Hal is tired of everyone not giving him a second chance despite how much hell he had to go through to become a Green Lantern again. Barry convinces him to keep fighting for what's right no matter what, which eventually gets Batman to start trusting Hal again. Harley Quinn, who used to be the bad girl for the Joker, also deals with similar problems after joining Batman, but she doesn't let it bother her.
* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro'', even though she had been BrainwashedAndCrazy under Malefor's control, there are still [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer many characters]] who still distrust Cynder post-reformation, despite her and Spyro doing their best to save the world.
* ''Franchise/MassEffect'' lets you do this to various people.
** Subverted with [[spoiler:Elnora]], who puts on a façade of being an air-headed repenter, but in fact displays disturbing sociopathy in her ApocalypticLog.
** Most characters... [[TheDragon Saren]], or [[TheChessmaster the Illusive Man]], or even [[BigBad Harbinger]] or Morinth are people Shepard can at least be civil to. Not so with Gavin Archer: Shepard shows utter disgust that he tortured his autistic brother regardless of alignment, and if s/he sees him in the third game, s/he treats him like utter shit.
* ''VideoGame/MurderedSoulSuspect'': The protagonist Ronan O'Connor is a ReformedCriminal who became a member of the Salem Police Department; regardless, his fellow officer, Baxter, adamantly refused to see him as anything but another crook.
* In ''VideoGame/RomancingSaGa: Minstrel Song'', one of the short stories BrokenBird Schiele tells your hero takes a particularly cruel twist on this: [[spoiler:A reformed pirate raises several children he had orphaned, only to have them take out their revenge after reaching adulthood.]]
* ''VideoGame/SoulSeries'': After getting over the [[DemonicPossession influences]] of [[ArtifactOfDoom Soul Edge]], Siegfried runs into this quite a few times, most often from vengence-seekers searching for [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Nightmare, the Azure Knight.]]
* The aversion of this trope is notable in the Sith Warrior story in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic''. After [[spoiler:the betrayal of Malavai Quinn (in the beta you could kill him as a result but in the final game you can't kill your companions)]] there isn't even a hint in the conversations that the player character might not trust him because of those events, which would actually be very understandable.
* In ''[[VideoGame/TraumaCenter Trauma Team]]'', Maria loudly and violently rejects CR-S01's genuine attempts to make amends for the crime he might have committed, driving him into a HeroicBSOD which he has to be talked out of by the agent who captured him. After this, he ''does'' manage to convince Maria of his good intentions, but the initial rejection was pretty harsh.
* ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChroniclesII'' has Sigrid Essel, a former member of the rebels join Class G after Reiner's event. As expected, no one in the academy is warm to his defection from the rebels, and his classmates question Avan's judgement in allowing him to join with them. He's even accused of being a spy for the rebels, which he has to endure day in and day out.
* Happens to [[spoiler:Aribeth]] in ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights'' even if the player character [[ForgivenButNotForgotten personally forgave]] [[spoiler:her]]. Then [[TraumaCongaLine it happens again]] before you meet [[spoiler:her]] in ''Hordes of the Underdark''.
* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'':
** This happens for a short time in if you play a Death Knight. After the prologue area, you are teleported to Stormwind or Ogrimmar, and face lynch mobs demanding your death. Thankfully, speaking with Thrall or Varian provides enough reputation so this isn't too much of an issue for death knight players.
** Later, in Borean Tundra, Thassarian is sent on a SuicideMission by General Arlos (who is later revealed to have been brainwashed by a Scourge agent).
** The Forsaken are undead who managed to break free from the Lich King's control through sheer willpower and simply want the right to exist. The fact that their own brothers and sisters want them destroyed has only made them more bitter toward the living.
** This is also half the reason for the game's overall storyline; the Alliance understandably has a hard time accepting that the new Horde is ideologically opposed to the one that razed their cities to the ground. The fact that they're still a war-like people who raze their cities to the ground doesn't help.
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