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** Paul [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6475667 doesn't remember]] Ice's background.
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* CultureClash: Paul has to explain to Canis why they aren't killing Helmut Schreiber in a way the Apokoliptian understands.
--> '''Paul:''' Canis, this isn't Apokolips. We're here to achieve a very limited objective '''''while at the same time''''' not creating difficulty for our superiors. Killing a Brazilian citizen without an exceptionally good reason ''would'' create such a difficulty.\\
'''Canis:''' Because you cannot be sure if someone of significance favours him in ignorance of his true nature. And you do not wish to challenge your elders by assuming a right which belongs to them alone.\\
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'''Paul:''' [[SureLetsGoWithThat Okay. Let's go with that.]]
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** Mr Zoat isn't using the [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6463946 version of Uncle Sam]] from ''Creator/VertigoComics''
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** ''Something'' happened to Uncle Sam which has [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6462570 rendered him unavailable]].

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** ''Something'' happened to Uncle Sam which has [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6462570 rendered him unavailable]]. Also, the Light have a new member who [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6462640 can keep most people from being consciously aware of him]].
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** ''Something'' happened to Uncle Sam which has [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6462570 rendered him unavailable]].
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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: Canis finds the fact that Hitler started a war that killed millions of people unimpressive compared to what Apokolips has done for eons across the universe.


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* CostumeEvolution: Diana is getting help from Ted Kord and Io on getting a new set of armor, though it isn't quite ready yet.
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* LeeroyJenkins: After the Renegade recovers Manchester, he accuses the latter of being this.
--> '''Manchester:''' Fook off. I've been shot.\\
'''Renegade:''' I can't ''imagine'' why that happened.\\
'''Manchester:''' You were the one who gave me those fookin' fiyals. What'd'ja think I was gonna do with 'em?\\
'''Renegade:''' I gave them to you because I wanted to demonstrate the nature of the people you work for. I thought you'd use your position to gather more information. Gather allies. '''''Plan''''', like I '''know''' they tried to train you to. I didn't expect you to try '''killing them all off yourself one by one''', You- I ''[pokes a finger just above one of Manchester's wound]'' -are a '''Muppet'''.
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* NatureVersusNurture: Paul tells Rocket that he believes the latter is a bigger deal than the former. It also proves true with Helmut Schreiber, who is nothing like his genetic progenitor.
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** Rocket asks Paul if he's ever read ''Literature/TheBoysFromBrazil'' after they see Helmut Schreiber and his family.
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* LaughThemselvesSick: OL and Rocket do this after finding out about Helmut Schreiber and his black/mixed blood family.
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** Gerri Brauer [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6451585 is around]].
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** Paul remembers [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse Earth 12]] from [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6451543 a wiki he read]], so he calls it that in-universe.
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** Mr Zoat reveals that, in this story, Prometheus [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6440284 helped with the conception of Hephaestus]] [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6440527 by creting a device for her]].

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** Mr Zoat reveals that, in this story, Prometheus [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6440284 helped with the conception of Hephaestus]] [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6440527 by creting creating a device for her]].
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* WhamLine: Upon seeing Helmut Schreiber, Rocket asks:
--> "Is that Hitler?"
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** Wolf is [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6445430 stronger than Beton Brut]].
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* DeathIsCheap: Discussed. M'gann asks Paul and Kon if people come back from the dead a lot on Earth, and wonders if it's possible on Mars as well.


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* ValuesDissonance: Discussed between Aqualad and Rocket. The former doesn't understand racism, while the latter doesn't get Purebloodism. Aqualad even lampshades it.
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** Mr Zoat implies that, in this story, [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6440284 Prometheus is the father of Hephaestus]].

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** Mr Zoat implies reveals that, in this story, Prometheus [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6440284 Prometheus is helped with the father conception of Hephaestus]].Hephaestus]] [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6440527 by creting a device for her]].
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** Mr Zoat implies that, in this story, [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6440284 Prometheus is the father of Hephaestus]].
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Prince Jon reveals that he was able to die an honorable death and reunite with his Valkyrie lover after he was frozen alive, thawed out centuries later, and ultimately killed by something he called [[OutsideContextProblem blast clay, i.e. C-4]], because Odin didn't think to make him immune to something like that when cursing Prince Jon.

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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Prince Jon reveals that he was able to die an honorable death and reunite with his Valkyrie lover after he was frozen alive, thawed out centuries later, and ultimately killed by something he called [[OutsideContextProblem blast clay, i.e. C-4]], dynamite]], because Odin didn't think to make him immune to something like that when cursing Prince Jon.
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* ConsummateLiar: Odin is one, especially about [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6437860 where he gets his power]].
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** What the Norse call giants are [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6437293 the same class of being]] as what the Greeks call Titans.
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Prince Jon reveals that he was able to die an honorable death and reunite with his Valkyrie lover after he was frozen alive, thawed out centuries later, and ultimately killed by something he called [[OutsideContextProblem blast clay, i.e. an explosive device]], because Odin didn't think to make him immune to something like than when cursing Prince Jon.

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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Prince Jon reveals that he was able to die an honorable death and reunite with his Valkyrie lover after he was frozen alive, thawed out centuries later, and ultimately killed by something he called [[OutsideContextProblem blast clay, i.e. an explosive device]], C-4]], because Odin didn't think to make him immune to something like than that when cursing Prince Jon.
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Prince Jon reveals that he was able to die and honorable death and reunite with his Valkyrie lover after he was frozen alive, thawed out centuries later, and ultimately killed by something he called [[OutsideContextProblem blast clay, i.e. an explosive device]], because Odin didn't think to make him immune to something like than when cursing Prince Jon.

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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Prince Jon reveals that he was able to die and an honorable death and reunite with his Valkyrie lover after he was frozen alive, thawed out centuries later, and ultimately killed by something he called [[OutsideContextProblem blast clay, i.e. an explosive device]], because Odin didn't think to make him immune to something like than when cursing Prince Jon.

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** The Einherjar that the League and the Team fought back at New Years reanimate, indicating that the Kriegers have returned from the Norse afterlife.

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** The Einherjar that the League and the Team fought back at New Years reanimate, indicating that the Kriegers have returned from the Norse afterlife.Valhalla.



--> '''Rocket''': Is that Adolf Hitler, his black wife and their three children?\\
'''Paul''': Well-. Well-. Well. Until they get further away from the house I can't do a genetic analysis, but working backwards from existing genetic records and their physical appearances… Probably?

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--> '''Rocket''': '''Rocket:''' Is that Adolf Hitler, his black wife and their three children?\\
'''Paul''': '''Paul:''' Well-. Well-. Well. Until they get further away from the house I can't do a genetic analysis, but working backwards from existing genetic records and their physical appearances… Probably?Probably?
* EarnYourHappyEnding: Prince Jon reveals that he was able to die and honorable death and reunite with his Valkyrie lover after he was frozen alive, thawed out centuries later, and ultimately killed by something he called [[OutsideContextProblem blast clay, i.e. an explosive device]], because Odin didn't think to make him immune to something like than when cursing Prince Jon.
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*** It's explained that this allows Batman to [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6431316 look like a neutral debate moderator]].
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** Paul is evaluating the members of the Justice League because Batman [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6378374 wants the news to come from someone other than himself]], as well as a sort of interview for OL.

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** Paul is evaluating the members of the Justice League because Batman [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6378374 wants the news to come come]] [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6431097 from someone other than himself]], as well as a sort of interview for OL.
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** The Einherjar that the League and the Team fought back at New Years reanimate, indicating that the Kriegers have returned from the Norse afterlife.
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* RhetoricalQuestionBlunder: Paul answers a rhetorical question that Superman asks before realizing that he was being rhetorical.
--> '''Superman:''' Remind me again why we lined these storage rooms with lead?\\
'''Paul:''' In case you were storing radiological materials, probab-. Rhetorical, sorry.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Superman tells Paul that he wears a belt because his trunks used to get pulled down when he flew too fast.

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