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In the Paragon timeline, on the other hand, the Team reaches the escape pod much later, only to find that Ambush Bug has taken a host and started warping reality. He is initially friendly to the various team members, whom he recognises, but upon seeing Paul, he [[BreakingTheFourthWall recognises him as a self-insert]] and becomes enraged, declaring "No filthy SI in my story!" He attempts to remove Paul by sending him to a succession of [[AlternateUniverse alternate universes]] which contain [[AlternateSelf versions of himself]], as well as to entirely different fandoms such as ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' and ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers''. When Paul keeps returning, Ambush Bug resorts to summoning allies from the past and future, until Paul talks him down by pointing out the possibility that Paul is actually a minor, forgotten, DC-owned character, which would make his presence authorised by DC Editorial. Ambush Bug reluctantly agrees to perform an exhaustive search of everything DC ever produced, and leaves.
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In the Paragon timeline, on the other hand, the Team reaches the escape pod much later, only to find that Ambush Bug has taken a host and started warping reality. He is initially friendly to the various team members, whom he recognises, but upon seeing Paul, he [[BreakingTheFourthWall recognises him as a self-insert]] and becomes enraged, declaring "No filthy SI in my story!" He attempts to remove Paul by sending him to a succession of [[AlternateUniverse alternate universes]] which contain [[AlternateSelf versions of himself]], as well as to entirely different fandoms such as ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' ''Franchise/KungFuPanda'' and ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers''. When Paul keeps returning, Ambush Bug resorts to summoning allies from the past and future, until Paul talks him down by pointing out the possibility that Paul is actually a minor, forgotten, DC-owned character, which would make his presence authorised by DC Editorial. Ambush Bug reluctantly agrees to perform an exhaustive search of everything DC ever produced, and leaves.
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*** Last is the world of ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'', where he interferes with the events of the first movie so that Tai Lung instead repents for his actions and reconciles with Shifu.
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*** Last is the world of ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'', ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda1'', where he interferes with the events of the first movie so that Tai Lung instead repents for his actions and reconciles with Shifu.
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* FlashForward: A distant future Paul is seen recruiting Lanterns and fixing problems using careful application of avarice in non-DC franchises, including ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'', ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', and ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda''.
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* FlashForward: A distant future Paul is seen recruiting Lanterns and fixing problems using careful application of avarice in non-DC franchises, including ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'', ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', and ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda''.''Franchise/KungFuPanda''.
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* RedIsViolent: Paul gets a glimpse of his Red Lantern alternate self in the WesternAnimation/TeenTitans universe.
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* RedIsViolent: Paul gets a glimpse of his Red Lantern alternate self in the WesternAnimation/TeenTitans ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' universe.
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* SanityHasAdvantages: The Red Lantern Corps isn't made up of unthinking berserkers because Atrocitus saw that [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6186160 they weren't good enough to take on the Green Lantern Corps in that state]].
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** Despite both Red Lantern Paul and the Renegade being {{Anti Hero}}es, the latter is [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6181842 more capable of bringing positive change]] due to their differing methodologies.
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** Despite both Red Lantern Paul and the Renegade being {{Anti Hero}}es, the latter is [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6181842 more capable of bringing positive change]] due to their differing methodologies.
** The Red Lantern Corps isn't made up of unthinking berserkers because Atrocitus saw that [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6186160 they weren't good enough to take on the Green Lantern Corps in that state]].
** Despite both Red Lantern Paul and the Renegade being {{Anti Hero}}es, the latter is [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6181842 more capable of bringing positive change]] due to their differing methodologies.
** The Red Lantern Corps isn't made up of unthinking berserkers because Atrocitus saw that [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6186160 they weren't good enough to take on the Green Lantern Corps in that state]].
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* WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity: Euanthe the dryad has been eating Swamp Thing's fruit and gained a lot of arcane power from it, but she's essentially drunk. She eventually adapts.
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* WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity: Downplayed. Euanthe the dryad has been eating Swamp Thing's fruit and gained a lot of arcane power from it, but she's doing so has essentially drunk. She rendered her drunk, though she eventually adapts.
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* ComesGreatInsanity: Euanthe the dryad has been eating Swamp Thing's fruit and gained a lot of arcane power from it, but she's essentially drunk. She eventually adapts.
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** Hephaestus is [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6334635 studying up on arcane literature]].
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* NotSoInvincibleAfterAll: Diana herself notes this after her altercation with the Shade, having come out with burns along her arms. While they will heal, it reminds her that she is not invulnerable.
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** Neither OL nor Wonder Woman [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6333943 do patrols]].
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** Neither OL nor Wonder Woman [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6333943 do regular patrols]].
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** Neither OL nor Wonder Woman [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6333943 do patrols]].
** The sirens from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' were [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6334226 killed by Jon Haraldson]].
** The sirens from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' were [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6334226 killed by Jon Haraldson]].
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** Paul knows there's no version of himself on Earth 16 because he [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6333003 ran a facial and genetic recognition scan]].
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* AllForNothing: Tai Lung laments this when he sees what's on the Dragon Scroll.
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* BadLiar: Paul immediately realizes that Diana is trying to keep something from him when he notices that she's acting a little odd and won't look directly at him.
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* CallBack: Back in ''Unusual Suspicions'', Paul told Wonder Woman that the Shade [[WillfullyWeak never fought the Justice Society seriously]], and that if he did, he would've [[CurbStompBattle won with little effort]]. She didn't take this well, and this episodes reveals that she challenged him to a fight off-screen and not only lost, but also got burns to show for it.
--> '''Paul:''' Did you wrestle an Elemental or something?\\
'''Wonder Woman:''' No. But it seems that you were right about Richard Swift.
--> '''Paul:''' Did you wrestle an Elemental or something?\\
'''Wonder Woman:''' No. But it seems that you were right about Richard Swift.
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* CrazyEnoughToWork: Paul argued that he himself might be a minor DC character and that the only way for Ambush Bug to be certain would be to read every comic DC ever made. This successfully gets Ambush Bug to leave.
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* TakeThat: Paul argues that it should be possible for a story to be realistic about the consequences of a society with superheroes and supervillains [[Literature/{{Worm}} without becoming grimdark]].
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** Since Mr Zoat didn't watch ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths'' before writing the story, none of the versions of the SI [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6260141 know it either]].
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** Since Mr Zoat didn't watch ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths'' before writing the story, none of the versions of the SI [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6260141 know don't know]] [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6323871 it either]].
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** Ambush Bug references ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' when talking about a show that "fell into the abyss".
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* WhyWontYouDie: Ambush Bug is incensed that he can't get rid of Paul even after sending him across space and time twice.
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*** Last is the world of ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'', where he interferes with the events of the first movie so that Tai Lung instead repents for his actions and reconciles with Shifu.
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** This story [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6301075 won't have a crossover]] with ''Literature/{{Discworld}}''.
** If Paul were to give [[Webcomic/GrrlPower Deus]] an orange power ring, the latter wouldn't change due to [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6302225 already being almost completely in tune with his desires]].
** If Paul were to give [[Webcomic/GrrlPower Deus]] an orange power ring, the latter wouldn't change due to [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6302225 already being almost completely in tune with his desires]].
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* BreakThemByTalking: Future Orange Lantern does this to Azula.
--> "So tell me about this total fantasy non-monster version of me who lives in your head."\\
I smile. "Alright then. At a young age, she showed great talent at fire bending. As a result, her father showed her particular favour and as a dutiful daughter she strove to keep him happy. She focused on her studies, trying with all her might to make him proud of her. Because… Wasn't that what she was supposed to do? And he in turn showered her with… Not affection, exactly. But he demonstrated pride as she got stronger, and made a particular point of encouraging certain behaviours which he believed useful. Viciousness, so that she'd push away all confidants but him. Cruelty, so that none would dare cross her. Aggression and assertiveness and a sort of domineering charisma. Useful traits for a Fire Nation noble. Her mother turned from her in horror, but that was fine. After all, she had her father."\\
"And when her brother failed to capture the Avatar so hard that an entire fleet was destroyed, she left the Fire Nation and took over the mission from him. Though she didn’t ''quite'' manage to kill him, she ''did'' capture the Earth Kingdom's capital through stealth and guile and returned home in '''triumph'''. And when her brother betrayed her country, that was fine. She didn't think much of him anyway. Now her father would only have her!"\\
"And her friends turned from her, but that was alright, because she was doing what her father wanted. And they were traitors and they had to be dealt with as such. And then she came back to the palace to be told that she was to be made Fire Lord! The pay off had finally arrived." I smile. "All that pain, all that suffering, all that hard work, and here was the reward." My face falls. "An empty title as he promoted himself to King of the World, showing not the slightest regard for all of her efforts."\\
Her eyes are locked forwards, unseeing. She's shaking slightly. "You built your identity, your concept of the good, around a man who cared for you not at all. You pushed away everyone -just like you were supposed to- and you were left with nothing. And fixing ''that'' is what I am here to help you with."
--> "So tell me about this total fantasy non-monster version of me who lives in your head."\\
I smile. "Alright then. At a young age, she showed great talent at fire bending. As a result, her father showed her particular favour and as a dutiful daughter she strove to keep him happy. She focused on her studies, trying with all her might to make him proud of her. Because… Wasn't that what she was supposed to do? And he in turn showered her with… Not affection, exactly. But he demonstrated pride as she got stronger, and made a particular point of encouraging certain behaviours which he believed useful. Viciousness, so that she'd push away all confidants but him. Cruelty, so that none would dare cross her. Aggression and assertiveness and a sort of domineering charisma. Useful traits for a Fire Nation noble. Her mother turned from her in horror, but that was fine. After all, she had her father."\\
"And when her brother failed to capture the Avatar so hard that an entire fleet was destroyed, she left the Fire Nation and took over the mission from him. Though she didn’t ''quite'' manage to kill him, she ''did'' capture the Earth Kingdom's capital through stealth and guile and returned home in '''triumph'''. And when her brother betrayed her country, that was fine. She didn't think much of him anyway. Now her father would only have her!"\\
"And her friends turned from her, but that was alright, because she was doing what her father wanted. And they were traitors and they had to be dealt with as such. And then she came back to the palace to be told that she was to be made Fire Lord! The pay off had finally arrived." I smile. "All that pain, all that suffering, all that hard work, and here was the reward." My face falls. "An empty title as he promoted himself to King of the World, showing not the slightest regard for all of her efforts."\\
Her eyes are locked forwards, unseeing. She's shaking slightly. "You built your identity, your concept of the good, around a man who cared for you not at all. You pushed away everyone -just like you were supposed to- and you were left with nothing. And fixing ''that'' is what I am here to help you with."
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** Future Orange Lantern does this toAzula.
--> "So tell me about this total fantasy non-monster version of me who livesAzula in your head."\\
I smile. "Alright then. At a young age, she showed great talent at fire bending. As a result, her father showed her particular favour and as a dutiful daughter she stroveorder to keep him happy. She focused on her studies, trying with all her might to make him proud of her. Because… Wasn't that what she was supposed to do? And he in turn showered her with… Not affection, exactly. But he demonstrated pride as she got stronger, and made a particular point of encouraging certain behaviours which he believed useful. Viciousness, so that she'd push away all confidants but him. Cruelty, so that none would dare cross her. Aggression and assertiveness and a sort of domineering charisma. Useful traits for a Fire Nation noble. Her mother turned from her in horror, but that was fine. After all, she had her father."\\
"And when her brother failed to capture the Avatar so hard that an entire fleet was destroyed, she left the Fire Nation and took over the mission from him. Though she didn’t ''quite'' manage to kill him, she ''did'' capture the Earth Kingdom's capital through stealth and guile and returned home in '''triumph'''. And when her brother betrayed her country, that was fine. She didn't think much of him anyway. Now her father would only have her!"\\
"And her friends turned from her, but that was alright, because she was doing what her father wanted. And they were traitors and they had to be dealt with as such. And then she came back to the palace to be told that she was to be made Fire Lord! The pay off had finally arrived." I smile. "All that pain, all that suffering, all that hard work, and here was the reward." My face falls. "An empty title as he promoted himself to King of the World, showing not the slightest regard for all of her efforts."\\
rehabilitate her.
---> Her eyes are locked forwards, unseeing. She's shaking slightly. "You built your identity, your concept of the good, around a man who cared for you not at all. You pushed away everyone -just like you were supposed to- and you were left with nothing. And fixing ''that'' is what I am here to help you with.""
** He also does this to Tai Lung to get the latter to reconsider his obsession with the Dragon Scroll.
** Future Orange Lantern does this to
--> "So tell me about this total fantasy non-monster version of me who lives
I smile. "Alright then. At a young age, she showed great talent at fire bending. As a result, her father showed her particular favour and as a dutiful daughter she strove
"And when her brother failed to capture the Avatar so hard that an entire fleet was destroyed, she left the Fire Nation and took over the mission from him. Though she didn’t ''quite'' manage to kill him, she ''did'' capture the Earth Kingdom's capital through stealth and guile and returned home in '''triumph'''. And when her brother betrayed her country, that was fine. She didn't think much of him anyway. Now her father would only have her!"\\
"And her friends turned from her, but that was alright, because she was doing what her father wanted. And they were traitors and they had to be dealt with as such. And then she came back to the palace to be told that she was to be made Fire Lord! The pay off had finally arrived." I smile. "All that pain, all that suffering, all that hard work, and here was the reward." My face falls. "An empty title as he promoted himself to King of the World, showing not the slightest regard for all of her efforts."\\
---> Her eyes are locked forwards, unseeing. She's shaking slightly. "You built your identity, your concept of the good, around a man who cared for you not at all. You pushed away everyone -just like you were supposed to- and you were left with nothing. And fixing ''that'' is what I am here to help you with.
** He also does this to Tai Lung to get the latter to reconsider his obsession with the Dragon Scroll.