History Recap / TheSimpsonsS9E8LisaTheSkeptic

26th Jul '16 5:24:17 PM conankane1
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* ArtisticLicenseReligion: Lisa, the skeptic, is the only person to suspect the skeleton is fake. All of the other people in town, including Reverend Lovejoy, criticize her for her lack of faith. Except that, according to Christian tradition, angels do not have physical bodies and cannot die. Therefore even those who believe in angels, especially the preacher, should have called it out as a fake from the beginning.
** TheyJustDidntCare: [[WordOfGod This is pointed out in the DVD commentary by some of the writers]], who state they knew this but '[[HandWave they just went along with it, anyway]]'.

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* ArtisticLicenseReligion: Lisa, the skeptic, is the only person to suspect the skeleton is fake. All of the other people in town, including Reverend Lovejoy, criticize her for her lack of faith. Except that, according to Christian tradition, angels do not have physical bodies and cannot die. In addition, in some traditions angels also have the ability to shapeshift. Therefore even those who believe in angels, especially the preacher, should have called it out as a fake from the beginning.
beginning. Lisa and the scientist should also have noticed that the wing bones on the skeleton are an inaccurate depiction of the skeletal structure of avian wings considering the angel appearance the people who made the skeleton are going for is 'human with wings'.
** TheyJustDidntCare: [[WordOfGod This is pointed out in the DVD commentary by some of the writers]], who state they knew this of the inaccuracy but '[[HandWave they just went along with it, anyway]]'.
26th Jul '16 5:17:37 PM conankane1
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* ArbitrarySkepticism: Lisa is arguing against the authenticity of an angel skeleton and states that one who believes in angels might as well believe in such things as unicorns and leprechauns, to which Kent Brockman replies "Everybody knows leprechauns are extinct!" She even tries to prove scientifically that the angel is a fraud but the test come back as inconclusive. This episode comes off as downright bizarre given that it was in an era where Lisa still regularly displayed Christian beliefs. Added to that, angels are generally depicted as immortal, supernatural beings, and yet none of the believers in the town slightly doubt that one could die and leave behind a skeleton. She's right in the end. When she asks the scientist (Stephen Jay Gould doing a cameo) why his test didn't prove it was a fake, he admits he never did the test.

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* ArbitrarySkepticism: Lisa is arguing against the authenticity of an angel skeleton and states that one who believes in angels might as well believe in such things as unicorns and leprechauns, to which Kent Brockman replies "Everybody knows leprechauns are extinct!" She even tries to prove scientifically that the angel is a fraud but the test come back as inconclusive. This episode comes off as downright bizarre given that it was in an era where Lisa still regularly displayed Christian beliefs. Added to that, angels are generally depicted as immortal, supernatural beings, and yet none of the believers in the town slightly doubt that one could die and leave behind a skeleton. She's right in the end. When she asks the scientist (Stephen Jay Gould doing a cameo) why his test didn't prove it was a fake, he admits he never did the test.



** This is pointed out in the DVD commentary, claiming that '[[HandWave they just went along with it, anyway]]'.
* BeliefMakesYouStupid: All Springfieldians assume that it must be a skeleton of an angel, even though angels are a religious concept, without any scientific proof to argue for their existence (and are said to be immortal and have no physical bodies). They just blindly go along with the idea. And after the angel is proven to be just a marketing ploy they are not angry for being so foolish, they just want to go off and buy the stuff the angel was marketing.

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** TheyJustDidntCare: [[WordOfGod This is pointed out in the DVD commentary, claiming that commentary by some of the writers]], who state they knew this but '[[HandWave they just went along with it, anyway]]'.
* BeliefMakesYouStupid: All Springfieldians assume that it must be a skeleton of an angel, even though angels are a religious concept, without any scientific proof to argue for their existence (and are said to be immortal and have no physical bodies). They just blindly go along with the idea. And after the angel is proven to be just a marketing ploy they are not angry for being so foolish, they just want to go off and buy the stuff the angel was marketing.
anyway]]'.
14th Jun '16 4:08:37 PM monique.mudie
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* TakeAThirdOption: a meta example in an episode about science vs religion instead of taking a side the writers opted to make it about the evils of capitalism
10th Feb '16 4:08:51 PM windyshadow32
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2nd Jan '16 4:40:01 AM Fireblood
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* SpecialGuest: Creator/StephenJayGould AsHimself.

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* SpecialGuest: Creator/StephenJayGould Stephen Jay Gould AsHimself.
2nd Jan '16 4:39:01 AM Fireblood
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* ArbitrarySkepticism: Lisa is arguing against the authenticity of an angel skeleton and states that one who believes in angels might as well believe in such things as unicorns and leprechauns, to which Kent Brockman replies "Everybody knows leprechauns are extinct!" She even tries to prove scientifically that the angel is a fraud but the test come back as inconclusive. This episode comes off as downright bizarre given that it was in an era where Lisa still regularly displayed Christian beliefs. Added to that, angels are generally depicted as immortal, supernatural beings, and yet none of the believers in the town slightly doubt that one could die and leave behind a skeleton. She's right in the end. When she asks the scientist why his test didn't prove it was a fake, he admits he never did the test.

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* ArbitrarySkepticism: Lisa is arguing against the authenticity of an angel skeleton and states that one who believes in angels might as well believe in such things as unicorns and leprechauns, to which Kent Brockman replies "Everybody knows leprechauns are extinct!" She even tries to prove scientifically that the angel is a fraud but the test come back as inconclusive. This episode comes off as downright bizarre given that it was in an era where Lisa still regularly displayed Christian beliefs. Added to that, angels are generally depicted as immortal, supernatural beings, and yet none of the believers in the town slightly doubt that one could die and leave behind a skeleton. She's right in the end. When she asks the scientist (Stephen Jay Gould doing a cameo) why his test didn't prove it was a fake, he admits he never did the test.



* BlatantLies: While Homer was cashing on the "Angel's" popularity, he told Lisa he never used the word "angel" anywhere. Lisa then pointed to a handwritten sign reading "angel" and he said it was a typo.

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* BlatantLies: While Homer was cashing in on the "Angel's" popularity, he told Lisa he never used the word "angel" anywhere. Lisa then pointed to a handwritten sign reading "angel" and he said it was a typo.



* EskimosArentReal: Chief Wiggum says, "Yes, everybody's heard of angels, but who's heard of a neanderthal!"

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* EskimosArentReal: Chief Wiggum says, says "Yes, everybody's heard of angels, but who's heard of a neanderthal!"



* IfJesusThenAliens: Lisa's careful balance between sweet little girl and intellectual genius was broken severely. Lisa is as a condescending and atheistic unbelieving skeptic, despite the fact that she was always portrayed as being somewhat religious before then (and after, to the point where when she lost her religion she was not satisfied until she found another). To her credit, we are talking about not believing in angel fossils here. And she was right, they weren't angel fossils at all.

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* IfJesusThenAliens: Lisa's careful balance between sweet little girl and intellectual genius was broken severely. Lisa here is as a condescending and atheistic unbelieving skeptic, despite the fact that she was always portrayed as being somewhat religious before then (and after, to the point where when she lost her religion she was not satisfied until she found another).another, namely Buddhism). To her credit, we are talking about not believing in angel fossils here. And she was right, they weren't angel fossils at all.



* LaserGuidedAmnesia: Implied.

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* LaserGuidedAmnesia: Implied.{{Implied}}.



* SpecialGuest: Creator/StephenJayGould AsHimself

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* SpecialGuest: Creator/StephenJayGould AsHimselfAsHimself.
21st Dec '15 12:53:04 AM ergeis
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*CallBack: Homer's closet contains things he did in previous episodes.
24th May '15 3:18:13 PM maxwellsilver
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** The "Amnesia Ray" was a revolver and Burns told Smithers to use it on himself after he's done with the others.

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** LeaveNoWitnesses: The "Amnesia Ray" was a revolver and Burns told Smithers to use it on himself after he's done with the others.
24th Mar '15 2:32:52 PM SaraJaye
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* PetTheDog: Lisa, who spent the entire episode banging her fists against the wall trying to prove the skeleton wasn't an angel, is ''outraged'' to find out it was just a publicity stunt. She even tries to call the mall directors out for exploiting everyone's beliefs...unfortunately, by that point the majority of them are too excited about shopping to care anymore.



* SoapboxSadie: Lisa, in an unfortunate preview of seasons to come.

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* SoapboxSadie: Lisa, in an unfortunate preview of seasons to come.Lisa.
10th Dec '14 7:57:54 AM speedyboris
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* NerdsLoveToughSchoolwork: Principal Skinner over intercom: "Attention. All honor roll students will be rewarded by a trip to an archaeological dig. Also, all detention students will be punished with a trip to an archaeological dig."

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* NerdsLoveToughSchoolwork: Principal Skinner over intercom: "Attention. All honor roll students will be rewarded by a trip to an archaeological dig. Also, Conversely, all detention students will be punished with a trip to an archaeological dig."
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