History Recap / TheFlash2014S1E8FlashVsArrow

* RevengeByProxy: Oliver warns S.T.A.R. Labs that his enemies may go after them because of this.

* ChekhovsGun: When training Barry, Oliver tricks him into catching an arrow he fired so that Barry will be an easy target for two crossbows hidden, hitting him in the back. A "reverse" of this (the Arrow's cycle shoots two arrows at the Flash in the back, [[ItOnlyWorksOnce which he catches]], only for Oliver to ''throw'' (not fire) an arrow at Barry's leg) is how Oliver manages to finally get the upper hand on Barry, allowing Wells and Joe to come in and undo Bivolo's brainwashing.

* StopHavingFunGuy: Oliver. Amongst other critiques he has of Barry's operation is "giving his enemies silly code names"... which Barry points out the authorities do about Oliver's own rogues in Starling City.

* TheStinger: Two muggers apprehend a seemingly-homeless guy... only for the guy to explode into flame, revealing that a) Ronnie's alive, and b) he's got ComicBook/{{Firestorm}} powers.

* ImplacableMan: Barry himself while under the effects of Bivolo's powers; while Ollie is eventually able to restrain him, their fight is almost completely one-sided as everything Oliver throws at him is shrugged off, leading to an almost CurbStompBattle (which isn't surprising given the big difference in their power level). However, Oliver ends up overpowerign Barry towards the end of the fight.

* ImplacableMan: Barry himself while under the effects of Bivolo's powers; while Ollie is eventually able to restrain him, their fight is almost completely one-sided as everything Oliver throws at him is shrugged off, leading to an almost CurbStompBattle (which isn't surprising given the big difference in their power level).

** While it is ultimately a tie, Barry ''utterly destroys'' Oliver when they fight, as to be expected by someone with his powers against a guy with a bow and arrow. The show plays to both of their strength and shows Oliver relying on trickery and catching Barry off-guard, which works to keep him in the fight despite Barry's power, letting Joe and Wells activate the machine to de-rage him.

Team Arrow comes to Central City seeking a fugitive, just in time to help Team Flash capture a rage-inducing metahuman. Part of a {{crossover}} that is continued in the ''Arrow'' episode [[Recap/ArrowS3E8TheBraveAndTheBold "The Brave And The Bold"]].

* ArrowCatch: In pitting an archer against a speedster, this was bound to happen. But both times, Barry catching an arrow left him open to attack from another direction.
* ArtisticLicenseChemistry: Why are the Arrow crew in Barry's town? [[GPSEvidence There's something in the boomerang's alloy that's commonly found here.]] What is the rare substance in question? Iron oxide, more commonly known as ''rust''.
** Interestingly, the ''Arrow'' crossover episode talks about S.T.A.R. Labs analysing residue found on the boomerang, completely bypassing the artistic license taken in this episode.
* BechdelTest: Passes with Felicity and Caitlin talking about Sara's murder. Lampshaded when Felicity says it feels really nice to talk to a woman for once.

* ChekhovsGun: When training Barry, Oliver tricks him into catching an arrow he fired so that Barry will be an easy target for two bows hidden, hitting him in the back. A "reverse" of this (The Arrow's cycle shoots two arrows at the Flash in the back, [[ItOnlyWorksOnce which he catches]], only for Oliver to ''throw'' (not fire) an arrow at Barry's leg) is how Oliver manages to finally get the upper hand on Barry, allowing Wells and Joe to come in and undo Bivolo's brainwashing.

** Rage!Barry's line to Eddie after he attacks him is identical to what he said to Iris when he confronted her about her blog.

** As it happened in # [[Recap/TheFlash2014S1E5Plastique Plastique]], Cisco is a bit too eager to throw a boomerang.

* DeconstructionCrossover: Both shows have some holes poked in their MO by the others' casts. Oliver isn't impressed with how the ''Flash'' team isn't taking their job seriously, while some of the ''Flash'' characters have a dim view of the Arrow's brutal methods. By the end of the accompanying ''Arrow'' episode, members of both casts admit the other has a point.

* EveryoneHasStandards: Oliver will help Barry catch Bivolo. He will not, however, call him a [[DifferentlyPoweredIndividual metahuman]].
** [[NotSoAboveItAll He does call Bivolo a metahuman]] after he and Barry fight however.
* ExactWords: Oliver told Barry to run to the other side of the field and back, and he'd get hit with an arrow. He never said ''he'd'' be shooting the arrow...

* ExperiencedProtagonist: Oliver, and this is highlighted when he lectures Barry on how the latter should use his SuperSpeed more properly. When Barry was struck by Bivolo's HatePlague and was required to be stopped by Oliver, their respective team members except Felicity (who is close to both and thus more concerned about the situation happening than the possible outcome) had an argument with Diggle invoking this very trope in the discussion.
-->'''Caitlin:''' I just hope they (Wells and Joe) can turn Barry back before he kills Oliver.
-->'''Diggle:''' Me, I'll be more worried about what Oliver might have to do to Barry.
-->'''Caitlin:''' Barry has super-powers, Oliver [[UnderestimatingBadassery has a bow and arrow]].
-->'''Diggle:''' Do you have any idea how many people Oliver has put down with that bow and arrow?
-->'''Cisco:''' Recurve bow arrows can travel up to 300 feet per second, so, like, 200mph? Barry can run ''three times'' that fast.
-->'''Diggle:''' Whatever. Oliver's been doing this a lot longer; my money's on experience.
-->'''Cisco:''' My money's on speed.
-->(pan to a mortified Felicity sitting away from them)
-->'''Felicity:''' Please tell me you're not ''actually'' having this conversation!

* HypocriticalHumor: Oliver says that they need to discuss Barry's use of "silly codenames" for his enemies. Barry counters by suggesting that they have that conversation "over coffee with Deathstroke and The Huntress."
** Although ARGUS gave Deathstroke his and Huntress was a ally when Oliver gave her hers.

* IdiotBall: While it was to showcase Barry's naiveté, it was still pretty stupid to look Bivolo directly in the eyes ''after'' being told that his power works through the ocular nerve.

* MyGodYouAreSerious: When Oliver told Felicity he was going to shoot Barry with an arrow, she wasn't sure if he was joking or being serious.

* NotWhatItLooksLike: Barry brings Felicity to STAR Labs at superspeed and her clothes catch on fire. They're tearing her shirt off in a panic just when Caitlin and Cisco walk in.

* TheStinger: Two muggers apprehend a seemingly-homeless guy...only for the guy to explode into flame, revealing that A. Ronnie's alive, and B. He's got ComicBook/{{Firestorm}} powers.
* StopHavingFunGuy: Oliver. Amongst other things critiques he has of Barry's operation is "giving his enemies silly code names"... which Barry points out the authorities do about Oliver's own rogues in Starling City.
* SupermanStaysOutOfGotham: Played with, Joe does not like Arrow operating in his city, believing him to be a lunatic, and his methods are not welcome.
** Oliver's Starling City is very much a corrupt WretchedHive on the brink of collapse, while Central City was more like an average city until the particle accelerator explosion. So while Oliver has to be a hardline vigilante out of necessity, Barry is able to bit less cynical and more playful which leads to their conflicting heroic ideals: Oliver wants to stop crime by punish criminals, Barry just want to help people.

* UnderestimatingBadassery: Caitlin and Cisco immediately concluded that Oliver doesn't have a slight chance against Barry. Diggle quickly makes a point.

* WeakButSkilled[=/=]StrongButUnskilled: [[ContrastingSequelMainCharacter Barry and Oliver]]
-->'''Diggle:''' My money's on experience
-->'''Cisco:''' My money's on speed
* YouWillNotEvadeMe: Oliver shoots a grappling arrow and ziplines away. Barry runs up the side of the building and yanks it out.

* NotTheFallThatKillsYou: Oliver falls from the top of a skyscraper and fires another grappling arrow that stops his fall about an inch before he kits the ground.

* ExactWords: Oliver told Barry to run to the other side of the field and back, and he'd get hit with an arrow. He never said ''he'd'' be shooting the arrow...

** When Iris asks The Flash if he has a "normal" name, he asks, "Like Ralph?" In ''Film/SupermanTheMovie'', Lois Lane asks Superman and he asks back, "What, like Ralph or something?"

** When Iris asks The Flash if he has a "normal" name, he asks, "Like Ralph?" In ''Film/Superman'', Lois Lane asks Superman and he asks back, "What, like Ralph or something?"

** Interestingly, the ''Arrow'' crossover episode talks about S.T.A.R. Labs analysing residue found on the boomerang, [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot completely bypassing the artistic license taken in this episode]].

* HeroAntagonist: Oliver (and by extension the rest of Team Flash and Team Arrow) becomes this to Barry after he's exposed to Bivolo's HatePlauge, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin hence the episode's title]].

** He does call Bivolo a metahuman after he and Barry fight however.

** Oliver's Starling City is very much a corrupt WretchedHive on the brink of collapse, while Central City was more like an average city until the particle accelerator explosion. So while Oliver has to be a hardline vigilante out of necessity, Barry is able to bit more less cynical and more playful leads to their conflicting heroic ideals: Oliver wants to stop crime by punish criminals, Barry just want to help people.

* HypocriticalHumor: Oliver says that they need to discuss Barry's use of "silly codenames" for his enemies. Barry counters by suggesting that they have that conversation "over tea with Deathstroke and The Huntress."

** Flash gets on Eddie's case saying about living the life Barry thought was meant for him. The motivation of Eddie's comic namesake is to ruin the Flash's life and take his place in history.

* ChekhovsGun: when training Barry, Oliver tricks him into catching an arrow he fired so that Barry will be an easy target for two bows hidden, hitting him in the back. A "reverse" of this (The Arrow's cycle shoots two arrows at the Flash in the back, [[ItOnlyWorksOnce which he catches]], only for Oliver to ''throw'' (not fire) an arrow at Barry's leg) is how Oliver manages to finally get the upper hand on Barry, allowing Wells and Joe to come in and undo Bivolo's brainwashing.

* HealingFactor: Used against Barry because it's fighting the Hate Plague which means it gets bottled up, which leads to some very bad things.

* IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight: Arrow even utters "I still believe in you, Barry." near the end of their fight.

* LateArrivalSpoiler: Sara's death if you don't watch ''Arrow''.

** Flash

-->'''Diggle:''' Do you have any idea how many people Oliver has killed with that bow and arrow?

-->'''Felicity:''' We're really gonna have this conversation right now, seriously?!

-->'''Caitlin:''' I hope they (Wells and Joe) get there in time. I'm worried on what Barry might do to Oliver.
-->'''Diggle:''' If you asked me, I'd be more worried with what Oliver might do to Barry.
-->'''Caitlin:''' Barry has SuperSpeed, Oliver [[UnderestimatingBadassery has a bow and arrow]].
-->'''Diggle:''' Do you have any idea how many people Oliver killed with that bow and arrow? Besides, Oliver's been doing this longer.
-->'''Cisco:''' Well, Barry can run three times faster than light.
-->'''Diggle:''' Well, my money's on experience.
-->'''Cisco:''' Well, my money's on speed.