History Recap / StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever

3rd Aug '16 12:47:51 PM mlsmithca
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Series: Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries\\
Episode: Season 1, Episode 28\\
Title: The City On the Edge of Forever\\
Previous: The Alternative Factor\\
Next: Operation: Annihilate!\\
Recapper: {{Tropers/Deckard}}]



17th Jun '16 5:54:16 PM omegafire17
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* InformedAttribute: For a ''Guardian of Forever'', he certainly doesn't do anything to stop a drug-addled crazy man run into the past and screw with human history, the sort of thing a ''Guardian'' would be expected to prevent. Website/SFDebris had an excellent go at this:

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* InformedAttribute: For a ''Guardian of Forever'', he certainly doesn't do anything to stop a drug-addled crazy man run into the past and screw with human history, the sort of thing a ''Guardian'' would be expected to prevent. Maybe 'Watcher' would have been more accurate to call 'him', seeing as he's a gateway who does his job, which doesn't include changes to the timeline (by it anyway). Website/SFDebris had an excellent go at this:
14th Mar '16 10:41:42 AM ading
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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl: Played with, since saving Edith would ''doom'' the world.

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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl: Played with, since saving Averted; Kirk chooses to kill Edith would ''doom'' the world.rather than let Hitler win WWII.
30th Jan '16 12:45:30 PM FordPrefect
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* BambooTechnology: Spock has to create a massive crude circuit array for his tricorder to display its recordings from the Guardian, and he complains that he has to work with the 1930s equivalent tech resources of "bear skins and stone knives." Of course, when Kirk drily remarks that it would be an extremely complex problem in logic, and that perhaps he expects too much of Spock sometimes, the science officer is quick to take up the challenge.

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* BambooTechnology: Spock has to create a massive crude circuit array for his tricorder to display its recordings from the Guardian, and he complains that he has to work with the 1930s equivalent tech resources of "bear skins "stone knives and stone knives.bear skins." Of course, when Kirk drily remarks that it would be an extremely complex problem in logic, and that perhaps he expects too much of Spock sometimes, the science officer is quick to take up the challenge.
15th Jan '16 10:00:24 PM mlsmithca
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* BambooTechnology: Spock has to create a massive crude circuit array for his tricorder to display its recordings from the Guardian, and he complains that he has to work with the 1930s equivalent tech resources of "bear skins and stone knives."

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* BambooTechnology: Spock has to create a massive crude circuit array for his tricorder to display its recordings from the Guardian, and he complains that he has to work with the 1930s equivalent tech resources of "bear skins and stone knives." Of course, when Kirk drily remarks that it would be an extremely complex problem in logic, and that perhaps he expects too much of Spock sometimes, the science officer is quick to take up the challenge.



* RecklessGunUsage: After the still heavily-drugged Bones passes out in the middle of a paranoid rant to an alarmed bum, the bum searches his pockets for money or valuables and finds his phaser. He inspects the strange device and presses a button on it - while pointing it at himself. He is promptly disintegrated.



* SequelHook: The Guardian's final words definitely give the impression that the writing staff intended to make further historical stories. Unfortunately, it never happened - at least in this series. It gets a proper sequel in the animated series.

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* SequelHook: The Guardian's final words definitely give the impression that the writing staff intended to make further historical stories. Unfortunately, it never happened - at least in this series. It gets a proper sequel in the animated series.series episode [[Recap/StarTrekTheAnimatedSeriesS1E2Yesteryear "Yesteryear"]].


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* SoapboxSadie: Edith Keeler subjects the regulars at the 21st Street Mission to numerous speeches about the greatness of which humanity is capable, and the notion that one day, they will harness atomic energy, travel into space, cure disease, and feed the hungry. Most of the poor and hungry diners see her speeches as the price they have to pay for a hot meal at the mission. Kirk, however, is fascinated by Keeler's ideals, which are almost identical to those on which the Federation and Starfleet would be founded three centuries later.
14th Jan '16 12:04:22 PM mlsmithca
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* CulturalPosturing: For once, Spock ends up on the receiving end of a conversation about how superior and advanced the speaker's culture is compared to the listener's. After Spock admits to Kirk that the mysterious archway which has been causing the time disturbances operates by no science he understands, the archway itself enters the conversation:
-->'''Kirk:''' Then what is it?\\
'''Guardian:''' A question. Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I have awaited a question.\\
'''Kirk:''' What are you?\\
'''Guardian:''' I am the Guardian of Forever.\\
'''Kirk:''' Are you machine, or being?\\
'''Guardian:''' I am both... and neither. I am my own beginning, my own ending.\\
'''Spock:''' I see no reason for answers to be couched in riddles.\\
'''Guardian:''' I answer as simply as your level of understanding makes possible.\\
'''Spock:''' A time portal, Captain. A gateway to other times and dimensions, if I'm correct.\\
'''Guardian:''' As correct as possible for you. Your science knowledge is obviously primitive.\\
'''Spock:''' ''(FascinatingEyebrow)'' Really.\\
'''Kirk:''' ''(enjoying every minute of this)'' Annoyed, Spock?



* NotThatKindOfDoctor: Inverted when Bones tells Edith [[ImADoctorNotAPlaceholder "I'm a surgeon not a psychiatrist."]]

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* NotThatKindOfDoctor: Inverted when when, upon hearing that Edith has a friend "who talks about Earth in the same way you do" and offers to introduce him, Bones tells Edith her, [[ImADoctorNotAPlaceholder "I'm a surgeon surgeon, not a psychiatrist."]]


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* PortalToThePast: The Guardian of Forever can not only display recordings of events at any time in Earth's past, but also allow the interested explorer to travel back to those times.


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* PsychicPowers: The Guardian of Forever remains cryptic about its true nature (to Kirk's question "Are you machine, or being?", the Guardian answers, "I am both - and neither."), but it can communicate with the ''Enterprise'' landing party despite having no mouth or ears.


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* RuinsForRuinsSake: The planet inhabited by the Guardian of Forever is covered by ruined stone columns. What they are doing there is never explained.[[note]] The use of this trope is accidental; the script decribes the planet as being covered in ancient ''runes''.[[/note]]


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* YearInsideHourOutside: When Kirk and Spock re-emerge from the Guardian's portal after having spent the better part of a week in 1930, Scotty asks, "What happened, sir? You only left a moment ago."
14th Jan '16 11:43:51 AM mlsmithca
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* ShootTheShaggyDog

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* ShootTheShaggyDogShootTheShaggyDog: Much of the episode focuses on Kirk's growing romantic attraction to Edith. But at the end of the episode, he is forced to set his feelings for her aside and let her be hit by a car and killed in order for the timeline to be restored.
14th Jan '16 11:39:50 AM mlsmithca
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* AmericaSavesTheDay: Implied that this happened in WorldWarTwo, since America staying out of the war in Europe apparently allows Germany to defeat both Britain & Russia.
* BambooTechnology: Spock has create a massive crude circuit array for his tricorder to display its recordings from the Guardian and he complains that he has to work with the 1930s equivalent tech resources of "bear skins and stone knives."
* BigApplesauce

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* AmericaSavesTheDay: Implied that this happened in WorldWarTwo, since America staying out of the war in Europe apparently allows Germany to defeat both Britain & and Russia.
* BambooTechnology: Spock has to create a massive crude circuit array for his tricorder to display its recordings from the Guardian Guardian, and he complains that he has to work with the 1930s equivalent tech resources of "bear skins and stone knives."
* BigApplesauceBigApplesauce: Of all the places on Earth to which Bones (and later Kirk and Spock) could travel, he happens to choose New York City.



* FishOutOfTemporalWater

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* FishOutOfTemporalWaterFishOutOfTemporalWater: When they first arrive in New York in 1930, Kirk and Spock stand out like sore thumbs because of their Starfleet uniforms and Spock's Vulcan ears. Even after they are able to "borrow" clothes (and a woolly hat to hide Spock's ears), their ideals and behaviour mark them as strangers to the era, which does not escape Edith's notice.



* ForWantOfANail
* GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel

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* ForWantOfANail
ForWantOfANail: Spock explains to Kirk that because Edith Keeler was not hit by a car and killed in 1930, she became the leader of a pacifist movement that delayed American entry into World War II for so long that the Nazis developed the atomic bomb first, and neither Starfleet nor the ''Enterprise'' ever existed.
* GodwinsLawOfTimeTravelGodwinsLawOfTimeTravel: To quote Spock in David Morgan-Mar's treatment of this episode in ''Webcomic/PlanetOfHats'', "It's the First Law of Time Travel. [...] Time travel: ergo, Hitler." Bones going back to 1930 and preventing Edith Keeler's death causes the Nazis to win World War II.



-->'''Chuck!Spock:''' Perhaps your new name could be something like "Butterfingers on the Edge of [[FamilyMatters Whoopsie, Did I Do That?]]"\\

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-->'''Chuck!Spock:''' Perhaps your new name could be something like "Butterfingers on the Edge of [[FamilyMatters [[Series/FamilyMatters Whoopsie, Did I Do That?]]"\\



* KillTheCutie

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* KillTheCutieKillTheCutie: Edith Keeler devotes her life to helping the many poor and hungry of the Great Depression, and is convinced that humanity can achieve great things if they could only set aside their petty squabbles. Kirk is fascinated by her altruism and idealism and falls in love with her. And then Spock tells him that she must die if the timeline is to be restored.



* TheNeedsOfTheMany: Kirk falls in love with Edith Keeler, partly because she has the same ideals upon which Starfleet would later be founded. But if he allows her to live, millions will die who did not die before, and Starfleet will never exist. He is forced to let her die to restore the timeline.



* SaveThisPersonSaveTheWorld: Inverted.
* SequelHook: The Guardian's final words definitely give the impression that the writing staff intended to make further historical stories. Unfortunately, it never happened- at least in this series as it gets a proper sequel in the animated series.
* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong

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* SaveThisPersonSaveTheWorld: Inverted.
Inverted; in this case, it's ''Kill'' This Person, Save the World. If Edith Keeler lives, the Nazis win UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, and Starfleet is never founded. If she dies, history continues as normal.
* SequelHook: The Guardian's final words definitely give the impression that the writing staff intended to make further historical stories. Unfortunately, it never happened- happened - at least in this series as it series. It gets a proper sequel in the animated series.
* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrongSetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: Inverted when Bones goes back to the past and prevents Edith Keeler's death, thereby preventing Starfleet from ever existing, then played straight when Kirk and Spock have to follow him and prevent him from preventing Edith Keeler's death.



* TimeTravelRomance
* TheNeedsOfTheMany

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* TimeTravelRomance
* TheNeedsOfTheMany
TimeTravelRomance: Kirk and Spock travel back in time by several centuries, where Kirk falls in love with "temporal local" Edith Keeler.



* YouCantFightFate
14th Jan '16 10:38:55 AM mlsmithca
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Series: Series/{{Star Trek The Original Series}}\\

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Series: Series/{{Star Trek The Original Series}}\\Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries\\



->''"As I'm watching the episodes for reference just before drawing each strip, I take notes on ridiculous stuff that I can make fun of in the comic. Things that pull me out of the story and make me think, "That makes no sense. I can make a gag about this bit." For most episodes I have anywhere between 10 lines and half a page of notes. When this episode ended, I had written nothing."''

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->''"As I'm watching the episodes for reference just before drawing each strip, I take notes on ridiculous stuff that I can make fun of in the comic. Things that pull me out of the story and make me think, "That makes no sense. I can make a gag about this bit." For most episodes I have anywhere between 10 lines and half a page of notes. When this episode ended, I had written nothing.''nothing''."''
24th Nov '15 3:39:28 PM katrinahood
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* RetroactiveRecognition: a very young Joan Collins as the poor but kindhearted Edith.
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