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* DudeWheresMyRespect: Let's say this episode was everything ''but'' "nice" to Cat Noir. Not played for laughs in relation to Adrien's friendship with Nino and Cat Noir's doubts about his current role in his partnership with Ladybug.

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* DudeWheresMyRespect: DudeWheresMyRespect:
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Let's say this episode was everything ''but'' "nice" to Cat Noir. Not played for laughs in relation to Adrien's friendship with Nino and Cat Noir's doubts about his current role in his partnership with Ladybug.Ladybug.
** Nino gets annoyed that the Ladybug animated sequel is adding Rena Rouge, but not Carapace.
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* SheatheYourSword: Cat Noir puts away his staff in attempt to talk Rocketear out of fighting. Sadly, it doesn't work.
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-->-- '''Shadow Moth'''
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->''"Rocketear, I am Shadow Moth. Cat Noir has ripped your heart out and left you in a weeping state of sorrow, so I'm giving your tears the power to destroy ''everything''!"

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->''"Rocketear, I am Shadow Moth. Cat Noir has ripped your heart out and left you in a weeping state of sorrow, so I'm giving your tears the power to destroy ''everything''!"
''everything''!"''
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->''"Rocketear, I am Shadow Moth. Cat Noir has ripped your heart out and left you in a weeping state of sorrow, so I'm giving your tears the power to destroy ''everything''!"
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* DoYouTrustMe: Alya asks Marinette if she trusts her to "fix things" with Nino, and Marinette says she trusts Alya. Unforunately, that trust is betrayed because Alya tells Nino a secret that Marinette wanted to keep.

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* DoYouTrustMe: Alya asks Marinette if she trusts her to "fix things" with Nino, says "I've got this. Do you trust me?" about the Nino situation, and Marinette says she trusts Alya. Unforunately, Unfortunately, that trust is betrayed because Alya tells Nino a secret that Marinette wanted to keep.
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Ambiguous "him" made it look like Alya told Adrien, and she technically never tells Nino anything about Rena Furtive on-camera.


* InternalReveal: Nino tells Adrien that he and Alya are Carapace and Rena Rouge, respectively. At the end of the episode, Alya tells him that she is now Rena Furtive, and can never be in public again as Rena Rouge.

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* InternalReveal: Nino tells Adrien that he and Alya are Carapace and Rena Rouge, respectively. At the end of the episode, Alya tells him Nino that she is now Rena Furtive, operating in secret, and can never be in public again as Rena Rouge.
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* DudeWhereIsMyRespect: Let's say this episode was everything ''but'' "nice" to Cat Noir. Not played for laughs in relation to Adrien's friendship with Nino and Cat Noir's doubts about his current role in his partnership with Ladybug.

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* DudeWhereIsMyRespect: DudeWheresMyRespect: Let's say this episode was everything ''but'' "nice" to Cat Noir. Not played for laughs in relation to Adrien's friendship with Nino and Cat Noir's doubts about his current role in his partnership with Ladybug.
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misuse (it's a video game AI trope)


* MyRulesAreNotYourRules: Aside from keep her best friend's identity a secret, Alya decides not to repeat the way Marinette deals with her problems, with lies and secrets, and be honest with Nino because she loves him sincerely and deeply.
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* DramaticIrony: "You're not my enemy, Adrien -- Cat Noir is." Of course, unbeknownst to Rocketear, Adrien ''is'' Cat Noir.
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** Nino remembers Ladybug gave both his and Alya's Miraculous simultaneously in "Catalyst", which is correct, since he is obviously not counting that each had used their Miraculous before.
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Incorrect since he must have been referring to "Heroes Day"


** Nino remembers Ladybug gave both his and Alya's Miraculous simultaneously in "Catalyst", despite the fact Alya became Rena Rouge in "Sapotis", episodes before Nino becomes Carapace in "Anansi". Also, both received their powers when Master Fu still was the guardian.
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* ExactWording: Though KeepingSecretsSucks for Alya, she wasn't truly lying when she told Nino that she would never be Rena Rouge again (because she now is Rena Furtive) and that Ladybug won't give her the Fox Miraculous again (because she now holds the Miraculous herself).

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* ExactWording: ExactWords: Though KeepingSecretsSucks for Alya, she wasn't truly lying when she told Nino that she would never be Rena Rouge again (because she now is Rena Furtive) and that Ladybug won't give her the Fox Miraculous again (because she now holds the Miraculous herself).

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* ExactWording: Though KeepingSecretsSucks for Alya, she wasn't truly lying when she told Nino that she would never be Rena Rouge again (because she now is Rena Furtive) and that Ladybug won't give her the Fox Miraculous again (because she now holds the Miraculous herself).



* MetaphoricallyTrue: Though KeepingSecretsSucks for Alya, she wasn't truly lying when she told Nino that she would never be Rena Rouge again (because she now is Rena Furtive) and that Ladybug won't give her the Fox Miraculous again (because she now holds the Miraculous herself).
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* MetaphoricallyTrue: Though KeepingSecretsSucks for Alya, she wasn't truly lying when she told Nino that she would never be Rena Rouge again (because she now is Rena Furtive) and that Ladybug won't give her the Fox Miraculous again (because she now holds the Miraculous herself).
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** Nino would rather play Super Penguino with Alya than hear another secret. That game featured in "Oblivio" and it carried a lot of [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything innuendo]].
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* MyRulesAreNotYourRules: Aside from keep her best friend's identity a secret, Alya decides not repeat the way Marinette deals with her problems, with lies and secrets, and be honest with Nino because she loves him sincerely and deeply.

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* MyRulesAreNotYourRules: Aside from keep her best friend's identity a secret, Alya decides not to repeat the way Marinette deals with her problems, with lies and secrets, and be honest with Nino because she loves him sincerely and deeply.
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* DoYouTrustMe: Alya asks Marinette if she trusts her to "fix things" with Nino, and Marinette says she trusts Alya. Unforunately, that trust is betrayed because Alya tells Nino a secret that Marinette wanted to keep.
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* DoubleStandard: After being brought into the loop by Nino, Adrien dejectedly mumbles that the "our identities must remain a secret" rule apparently applies only to him and Ladybug. Plagg agrees with him, but reminds him that since Ladybug is the Guardian, [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem she makes the rules now.]] ZigZagged in that Ladybug did not intentionally expose Alya and Nino to one another and only did so as she had no time to separate the two to give them their Miraculous, she still kept calling on them even after the events of "Mayura".

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* DoubleStandard: After being brought into the loop by Nino, Adrien dejectedly mumbles that the "our identities must remain a secret" rule apparently applies only to him and Ladybug. Plagg agrees with him, but reminds him that since Ladybug is the Guardian, [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem she makes the rules now.]] now]]. ZigZagged in that Ladybug did not intentionally expose only broke that rule in "Mayura" with Alya and Nino to one another and only did so as because she had no time to separate the two to give them couldn't separately deliver their Miraculous, she still kept Miraculouses under the circumstances, and otherwise has continued calling on them even after the events of "Mayura".heroes she knows to be compromised without Cat Noir taking issue with it.
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* DoubleStandard: After being brought into the loop by Nino, Adrien dejectedly mumbles that the "our identities must remain a secret" rule apparently applies only to him and Ladybug. Plagg agrees with him, but reminds him that since Ladybug is the Guardian, [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem she makes the rules now.]] ZigZagged in that Ladybug did not intentionally expose Alya and Nino to one another and only did so as she had no time to separate the two to give them their Miraculous, she still kept calling on them even after their identities were exposed to one another.

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* DoubleStandard: After being brought into the loop by Nino, Adrien dejectedly mumbles that the "our identities must remain a secret" rule apparently applies only to him and Ladybug. Plagg agrees with him, but reminds him that since Ladybug is the Guardian, [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem she makes the rules now.]] ZigZagged in that Ladybug did not intentionally expose Alya and Nino to one another and only did so as she had no time to separate the two to give them their Miraculous, she still kept calling on them even after their identities were exposed to one another.the events of "Mayura".
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"Mayura" showed why it's a bad idea for Rena and Carapace to be on the field together.


* DoubleStandard: After being brought into the loop by Nino, Adrien dejectedly mumbles that the "our identities must remain a secret" rule apparently applies only to him and Ladybug. Plagg agrees with him, but reminds him that since Ladybug is the Guardian, [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem she makes the rules now.]] Subverted in that Adrien does not know that Ladybug did not intentionally expose Alya and Nino to one another and only did so as she had no time to separate the two to give them their Miraculous.

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* DoubleStandard: After being brought into the loop by Nino, Adrien dejectedly mumbles that the "our identities must remain a secret" rule apparently applies only to him and Ladybug. Plagg agrees with him, but reminds him that since Ladybug is the Guardian, [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem she makes the rules now.]] Subverted ZigZagged in that Adrien does not know that Ladybug did not intentionally expose Alya and Nino to one another and only did so as she had no time to separate the two to give them their Miraculous.Miraculous, she still kept calling on them even after their identities were exposed to one another.
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** Marinette tells Alya to trick Nino into thinking she's no longer Rena Rouge to help hide her from Shadow Moth's retribution, but Alya goes behind her back to tell him the truth (that she's still Rena but acting undercover) anyway, to avoid more any other misunderstanding.

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** Marinette tells Alya to trick Nino into thinking she's no longer Rena Rouge to help hide her from Shadow Moth's retribution, but Alya goes behind her back to tell him the truth (that she's still Rena but acting undercover) anyway, to avoid more any other misunderstanding.misunderstandings.
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** Marinette tells Alya to trick Nino into thinking she's no longer Rena Rouge to help hide her from Shadow Moth's retribution, but Alya goes behind her back to tell him the truth (that she's still Rena but acting undercover) anyway.

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** Marinette tells Alya to trick Nino into thinking she's no longer Rena Rouge to help hide her from Shadow Moth's retribution, but Alya goes behind her back to tell him the truth (that she's still Rena but acting undercover) anyway.anyway, to avoid more any other misunderstanding.
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* AllAnimalsAreDogs: The four T-rexes at the ActionPrologue growl and snap their jaws at the heroes, but quickly start acting like excitable puppies after the doctor uses the "dino whistle".

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* AllAnimalsAreDogs: The four T-rexes at in the ActionPrologue growl and snap their jaws at the heroes, but quickly start acting like excitable puppies after the doctor uses the "dino whistle".



** Nino remembers Ladybug gave both his and Alya's miraculous simultaneously in "Catalyst", despite the fact Alya became Rena Rouge in "Sapotis", episodes before Nino becomes Carapace in "Anansi". Also, both received their powers when Master Fu still was the guardian.

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** Nino remembers Ladybug gave both his and Alya's miraculous Miraculous simultaneously in "Catalyst", despite the fact Alya became Rena Rouge in "Sapotis", episodes before Nino becomes Carapace in "Anansi". Also, both received their powers when Master Fu still was the guardian.



* {{Foil}}: Nino and Alya's relationship as a whole contrasts a lot with Ladybug and Cat Noir's.

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* {{Foil}}: Nino and Alya's [[BetaCouple relationship as a whole whole]] contrasts a lot with Ladybug and Cat Noir's.



* HeroicWillpower: Nino overcomes his own akumatization through sheer willpower, telling Shadow Moth he doesn't need the power anymore. It helps that at this point he's learned that the reason for his akumatization was a misunderstanding, but [[BeyondTheImpossible nothing less impressive]].

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* HeroicWillpower: Nino overcomes his own akumatization through sheer willpower, telling Shadow Moth he doesn't need the power anymore. It helps that at this point he's learned that the reason for his akumatization was a misunderstanding, but [[BeyondTheImpossible nothing less nonetheless impressive]].
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Ladybug never meant for them to figure out each of their identities and Plagg is just voicing his opinion.


* DoubleStandard: After being brought into the loop by Nino, Adrien dejectedly mumbles that the "our identities must remain a secret" rule apparently applies only to him and Ladybug. Plagg agrees with him, but reminds him that since Ladybug is the Guardian, [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem she makes the rules now.]]

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* DoubleStandard: After being brought into the loop by Nino, Adrien dejectedly mumbles that the "our identities must remain a secret" rule apparently applies only to him and Ladybug. Plagg agrees with him, but reminds him that since Ladybug is the Guardian, [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem she makes the rules now.]]]] Subverted in that Adrien does not know that Ladybug did not intentionally expose Alya and Nino to one another and only did so as she had no time to separate the two to give them their Miraculous.



* ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem: Done by proxy. When Adrien is fretting over Ladybug allowing Nino and Alya to know each other's secret identity, Plagg notes that Ladybug is the Guardian and can do as she pleases.

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* ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem: Done by proxy. When Adrien is fretting over Ladybug allowing Nino and Alya to know each other's secret identity, Plagg notes that Ladybug is the Guardian and can do as she pleases. Played with as this only Plagg's personal opinion.
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** Nino remembers Ladybug gave both his and Alya's miraculous simultaneously in "Catalyst", despite the fact Alya became Rena Rouge in "Sapotis, episodes before Nino becomes Carapace in "Anansi". Also, both received their powers when Master Fu still was the guardian.

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** Nino remembers Ladybug gave both his and Alya's miraculous simultaneously in "Catalyst", despite the fact Alya became Rena Rouge in "Sapotis, "Sapotis", episodes before Nino becomes Carapace in "Anansi". Also, both received their powers when Master Fu still was the guardian.



* DudeWhereIsMyRespect: Let's say this episode was everything BUT "nice" to Cat Noir. Not played for laughs in relation to Adrien's friendship with Nino and Cat Noir's doubts about his current role in his partnership with Ladybug.

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* DudeWhereIsMyRespect: Let's say this episode was everything BUT ''but'' "nice" to Cat Noir. Not played for laughs in relation to Adrien's friendship with Nino and Cat Noir's doubts about his current role in his partnership with Ladybug.
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* InternalReveal: Nino tells Adrien that he and Alya are Carapace and Rena Rouge, respectively. At the end of the episode, Alya tells him that she is now Rena undercover, and can never be in public again as Rena Rouge.

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* InternalReveal: Nino tells Adrien that he and Alya are Carapace and Rena Rouge, respectively. At the end of the episode, Alya tells him that she is now Rena undercover, Furtive, and can never be in public again as Rena Rouge.
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** Nino remembers Ladybug gave both his and Alya's miraculous simultaneously, despite the fact Alya became Rena Rouge before Nino becomes Carapace. Also, both received their powers when Master Fu still was the guardian.

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** Nino remembers Ladybug gave both his and Alya's miraculous simultaneously, simultaneously in "Catalyst", despite the fact Alya became Rena Rouge in "Sapotis, episodes before Nino becomes Carapace.Carapace in "Anansi". Also, both received their powers when Master Fu still was the guardian.

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** Nino remembers Ladybug gave both his and Alya's miraculous simultaneously, despite the fact Alya became Rena Rouge before Nino becomes Carapace. Also, both received their powers when Master Fu still was the guardian.



* DudeWhereIsMyRespect: Let's say this episode was everything BUT "nice" to Cat Noir. Not played for laughs in relation to Adrien's friendship with Nino and Cat Noir's doubts about his current role in his partnership with Ladybug.



* HeroicWillpower: Nino overcomes his own akumatization through sheer force of will, telling Shadow Moth he doesn't need the power anymore. It helps that at this point he's learned that the reason for his akumatization was a misunderstanding.

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* HeroicWillpower: Nino overcomes his own akumatization through sheer force of will, willpower, telling Shadow Moth he doesn't need the power anymore. It helps that at this point he's learned that the reason for his akumatization was a misunderstanding.misunderstanding, but [[BeyondTheImpossible nothing less impressive]].



* LikesClarkKentHatesSuperman: Nino begins to despise Cat Noir in this episode after he thinks Alya is cheating on him with Cat. However his best friend is Adrien, Cat Noir's alter-ego, which leads to a rather dramatic scene where Nino is complaining to Adrien about Cat Noir. Plagg also warns Adrien that it might be a bad idea to transform when Nino is akumatized because he hates Cat Noir.

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* LikesClarkKentHatesSuperman: Nino begins to despise Cat Noir in this episode after he thinks Alya is cheating on him with Cat. However his best friend is Adrien, Cat Noir's alter-ego, which leads to a rather dramatic scene where Nino is complaining to Adrien about Cat Noir. Plagg also warns Adrien that it might be a bad idea to transform when Nino is akumatized because he hates Cat Noir.Noir now. The misunderstanding is cleared up by the end, though.

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