History Recap / DoctorWhoS21E7TheTwinDilemma

24th Aug '15 10:00:04 AM SilentHunterUK
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* NeverLiveItDown: The Doctor dresses in what is widely regarded as one of the worst outfits he ever dons, has rapid mood swings, and nearly ''murders'' his companion for no reason. This episode is ''not'' looked at fondly by many.
9th Apr '15 7:08:22 AM carlhummus
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2nd Apr '15 5:50:30 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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-->'''Peri:''' On what?
-->'''Doctor:''' [[Creator/PeterDavison My last incarnation]]. I was never happy with that one.
-->'''Peri:''' Why ever not?
-->'''Doctor:''' It had a sort of feckless charm, which simply wasn't me.

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-->'''Peri:''' On what?
-->'''Doctor:'''
''what''?!\\
'''Doctor:'''
[[Creator/PeterDavison My last incarnation]]. incarnation]]... Oh, I was never happy with that one.
-->'''Peri:'''
one.\\
'''Peri:'''
Why ever not?
-->'''Doctor:'''
not?\\
'''Doctor:'''
It had a sort of feckless charm, "charm", which simply wasn't me.''me''!
21st Feb '15 2:14:36 PM Silverblade2
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The decision was made to push Colin Baker's first story up at the tail end of Creator/PeterDavison's era so viewers would be preemptively introduced to a new Doctor and not have to wait. However, like "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E1WarriorsOfTheDeep Warriors of the Deep]]", this story also suffered its share of [[TroubledProduction production issues]] caused by rushing the serial into being. Anthony Steven, the writer chosen for this story, was a gamble, as he had not penned a script for the series before and lacked experience to churn a story out on the fly, let alone for an as-of-yet uncharted Doctor.

He had severe difficultly trying to come up with a story for Baker, and could not get it done in time for production. This gave Eric Saward no other choice but to go through Steven's untailored script and make a large number of edits to it in the hope that it could to work on some level, making the edits on such a tight schedule that some of Steven's visions for the story were lost. For instance, to the Time Lord Azmael was intended to be K'ampo Rinpoche, the Doctor's old mentor, but Saward mistook him for a new character entirely. Sadly, even after the production team tried their best to visualize "The Twin Dilemma", critics gave the story a thrashing and put the show's future on shaky ground for the following year. Stevens did not do much writing after this story as a result of what happened, resigning himself to making only a few stories for ''Series/AllCreaturesGreatAndSmall''- and managed to prove he was quite the writer despite previous shortcomings.

Eric Saward, being a writer known for [[KnightOfCerebus injecting violence into a lot of the stories he helped produce]], responded to the criticisms of "The Twin Dilemma" more directly by deciding to produce a novelization of the serial, featuring a lot more material and direction than what he got the chance to provide on screen, restructuring it in an earnest effort to make it better off than it had been before. And to his credit, the reworking of the story holds up, despite what you may hear from some more aghast critics.
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21st Feb '15 10:24:37 AM SithkingZero
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* NeverLiveItDown: The Doctor dresses in what is widely regarded as one of the worst outfits he ever dons, has rapid mood swings, and nearly ''murders'' his companion for no reason. This episode is ''not'' looked at fondly by many.
21st Feb '15 10:17:02 AM SithkingZero
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->''"We Didn't!"''
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/WhatTheFuckIsWrongWithYou Nash Bozard]]'''
6th Feb '15 11:52:58 AM carlhummus
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He had severe difficultly trying to come up with a story for Baker, and could not get it done in time for production. This gave Eric Saward no other choice but to go through Steven's untailored script and make a large number of edits to it in the hope that it could to work on some level, making the edits on such a tight schedule that some of Steven's visions for the story were lost. For instance, to the Time Lord Azmael was intended to be K'ampo Rinpoche, the Doctor's old mentor, but Saward mistook him for a new character entirely. Sadly, even after the production team tried their best to visualize "The Twin Dilemma", critics gave the episode a thrashing and put the show's future on shaky ground for the following year. Stevens did not do much writing after this story as a result of what happened, resigning himself to making only a few stories for ''Series/AllCreaturesGreatAndSmall''- and managed to prove he was quite the writer despite previous shortcomings.

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He had severe difficultly trying to come up with a story for Baker, and could not get it done in time for production. This gave Eric Saward no other choice but to go through Steven's untailored script and make a large number of edits to it in the hope that it could to work on some level, making the edits on such a tight schedule that some of Steven's visions for the story were lost. For instance, to the Time Lord Azmael was intended to be K'ampo Rinpoche, the Doctor's old mentor, but Saward mistook him for a new character entirely. Sadly, even after the production team tried their best to visualize "The Twin Dilemma", critics gave the episode story a thrashing and put the show's future on shaky ground for the following year. Stevens did not do much writing after this story as a result of what happened, resigning himself to making only a few stories for ''Series/AllCreaturesGreatAndSmall''- and managed to prove he was quite the writer despite previous shortcomings.
5th Feb '15 8:57:20 PM carlhummus
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The decision was made to push Colin Baker's first story up at the tail end of Creator/PeterDavison's era so viewers would be preemptively introduced to a new Doctor and not have to wait. However, like "Warriors of the Deep", this story also suffered its share of [[TroubledProduction production issues]] caused by rushing the serial into being. Anthony Steven, the writer chosen for this story, was a gamble, as he had not penned a script for the series before and lacked experience to churn a story out on the fly, let alone for an as-of-yet uncharted Doctor.

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The decision was made to push Colin Baker's first story up at the tail end of Creator/PeterDavison's era so viewers would be preemptively introduced to a new Doctor and not have to wait. However, like "Warriors "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E1WarriorsOfTheDeep Warriors of the Deep", Deep]]", this story also suffered its share of [[TroubledProduction production issues]] caused by rushing the serial into being. Anthony Steven, the writer chosen for this story, was a gamble, as he had not penned a script for the series before and lacked experience to churn a story out on the fly, let alone for an as-of-yet uncharted Doctor.
5th Feb '15 8:51:56 PM carlhummus
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Eric Saward, being a writer known for [[KnightOfCerebus injecting violence into a lot of the stories he helped produce]], responded to the criticisms of "The Twin Dilemma" more directly by deciding to produce a novelization of the serial, featuring a lot more material and direction than what he got the chance to provide on screen, restructuring it in an earnest effort to make it better off than it had been before.

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Eric Saward, being a writer known for [[KnightOfCerebus injecting violence into a lot of the stories he helped produce]], responded to the criticisms of "The Twin Dilemma" more directly by deciding to produce a novelization of the serial, featuring a lot more material and direction than what he got the chance to provide on screen, restructuring it in an earnest effort to make it better off than it had been before. And to his credit, the reworking of the story holds up, despite what you may hear from some more aghast critics.
5th Feb '15 8:50:32 PM carlhummus
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The story where Creator/ColinBaker made his explosive debut as the Sixth Doctor.

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The story where Creator/ColinBaker made his explosive debut as the Sixth Doctor.
Doctor, ratcheting wildly from one emotion to another, showing the range of Colin's acting talent in a very upfront manner.
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