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* NotSoDifferent: The Daleks from the Time Lords.
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* EvilIsHammy: Being possessed by Zagreus really allows Paul McGann to go to town.

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* EvilIsHammy: Being possessed by Zagreus really allows Paul McGann Creator/PaulMcGann to go to town.

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* AllMythsAreTrue: Discussed.
* AnotherDimension: Anti-Time.
* AnguishedDeclarationOfLove
* ApocalypseMaiden: Charley.

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* AllMythsAreTrue: Discussed.
The Doctor at first dismisses Zagreus as nothing more than a child's nursery rhyme who was never real, but Charley brings up "Ring a Ring o' Roses", a similarly silly rhyme that has its basis in the very real bubonic plague. Zagreus eventually turns out to be very much real, and most of the legends surrounding him are entirely factual.
* AnotherDimension: Anti-Time.
Anti-Time, the necessary opposite to the normal universe.
* AnguishedDeclarationOfLove
AnguishedDeclarationOfLove: Trying to make a final heroic speech to tell The Doctor it's ok to sacrifice her, Charley tells him she loves him.
* ApocalypseMaiden: Charley.The Doctor preventing Charley's death on the R101 and taking her all across time and space has turned her into a time anomaly, a living gateway to a universe of anti-time.



* BadFuture: What the Anti-Time threatens to bring.
* BiggerOnTheInside: Not exclusively the Doctor's [[ExactWords TARDIS either]]...

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* BadFuture: What the Anti-Time threatens to bring.
bring, where Romana is a ruthless dictator and the ''Daleks'' are held in her thrall.
* BiggerOnTheInside: Not exclusively the Doctor's [[ExactWords TARDIS either]]...either]].



* TheBusCameBack: Romana's back and here to stay!
** Vansel, from The Apocalypse Element, is back as well.

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* TheBusCameBack: Romana's Romana, after popping back and here to stay!
** Vansel, from The
up in "The Apocalypse Element, is back as well.Element", returns here and will be a Big Finish mainstay from here on out.
** Vansell was also introduced in "The Apocalypse Element", but doesn't survive this story.



* ClothingDamage: Eight suffers some more, this time by heavy rain. No. ''Literally'' heavy rain.

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* ClothingDamage: Eight suffers some more, this time by heavy rain. No. ''Literally'' heavy rain.



* CreativeSterility: Vansel thinks this is what's happening to the Time Lords (He's right, but even a broken clock...)

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* CreativeSterility: Vansel Vansell thinks this is what's happening to the Time Lords (He's right, but even a broken clock...)



* DrivenToSuicide: Or unsuicide.
* EldritchAbomination: Anti-Time essentially causes this.

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* DrivenToSuicide: Or unsuicide.
Sentris had been a Coordinator for the CIA, and discovered that she had authorized hundreds of people to be wiped from existence by the Oubliette of Eternity. She was so horrified by her own actions (that she couldn't even remember) that she subjected herself to the Oubliette.
* EldritchAbomination: Anti-Time essentially causes this.Essentially, Zagreus, though the truth is much more complicated.



* EmbarrassingNickname: Toastrack, Nosebung.
* EvilIsHammy: Many have suggested that the trope should be renamed Face Ham Turn in Creator/PaulMcGann's honor.
* ExactTimeToFailure: When the Casket is initializing its final dematerialization, the Doctor superimposes his TARDIS over the timeship. Causing the countdown to become one for self destruction.

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* EmbarrassingNickname: Toastrack, Nosebung.
The Doctor refers to Vansell almost exclusively as "Nosebung".
* EvilIsHammy: Many have suggested that the trope should be renamed Face Ham Turn in Creator/PaulMcGann's honor.
Being possessed by Zagreus really allows Paul McGann to go to town.
* ExactTimeToFailure: When the Casket is initializing its final dematerialization, the Doctor superimposes his TARDIS over the timeship. timeship, Causing the countdown to become one for self destruction.self-destruction, instead.



* FateWorseThanDeath: The Unpeople are echoes of Gallifreyans erased from time by execution.

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* FateWorseThanDeath: The Unpeople are echoes of Gallifreyans erased from time by execution. Among their number are two childhood friends of Romana's whom she no longer has any memory of.
* FriendlessBackground: Romana insists that she had no friends as a child, but she meets the neverpeople ghosts of two Gallifreyans who ''were'' her childhood friends, erased from existence by the Oubliette of Eternity.



* GoodCopBadCop: Namedropped by the Doctor.
* GossipEvolution: Zagreus
** At first.

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* GoodCopBadCop: Namedropped Name-dropped by the Doctor.
* GossipEvolution: Zagreus
** At first.
The Doctor believes this about Zagreus at first, dismissing the legend as nothing but Chinese whispers. He's proven very, very wrong.



** Vansel does one when he shakes off the MindControl.

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** Vansel Vansell does one when he shakes off the MindControl.



* ImmediateSequel: Picks up directly after "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho032TheTimeOfTheDaleks The Time of the Daleks]]" and "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWhoShortTripsS5e8Foreshadowing Foreshadowing]]".



* ManChild: Charley uses Literature/PeterPan to describe the Doctor as a "boy who never grew up".

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* ManChild: Charley uses Literature/PeterPan as a metaphor to describe the Doctor as a "boy who never grew up".



* ObstructiveBureaucrat: The Doctor once again refers to the Timelords as red tape embracers.

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* ObstructiveBureaucrat: The Doctor once again refers to the Timelords Time Lords as red tape embracers.



* SequelEpisode: Picks up directly where The Time of the Daleks left off.
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Charley won't have it, of course, and calls him a fancy space PeterPan who lifts young girls from their regular lives and doesn't think of the consequences. But her opinion hardly counts either way when she's captured by a group of Gallifreyans of the [[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho001TheSirensOfTime Celestial Intervention Agency (C.I.A.)]] and taken before Romana. They figure out that although Charley is pretty much a nobody, and although the Doctor rescues people all the time from certain death, [[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho016StormWarning Charley's rescue]] set off a freak chain reaction in the web of time. This had let to "anti-time" bleeding through, and "[[PeterPan the boys and girls of Never-Never-Land]]" invading Gallifrey.

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Charley won't have it, of course, and calls him a fancy space PeterPan Literature/PeterPan who lifts young girls from their regular lives and doesn't think of the consequences. But her opinion hardly counts either way when she's captured by a group of Gallifreyans of the [[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho001TheSirensOfTime Celestial Intervention Agency (C.I.A.)]] and taken before Romana. They figure out that although Charley is pretty much a nobody, and although the Doctor rescues people all the time from certain death, [[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho016StormWarning Charley's rescue]] set off a freak chain reaction in the web of time. This had let to "anti-time" bleeding through, and "[[PeterPan "[[Literature/PeterPan the boys and girls of Never-Never-Land]]" invading Gallifrey.



* ManChild: Charley uses PeterPan to describe the Doctor as a "boy who never grew up".

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* ManChild: Charley uses PeterPan Literature/PeterPan to describe the Doctor as a "boy who never grew up".



* WholePlotReference: To ''PeterPan''. Lampshaded all over the episode.

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* WholePlotReference: To ''PeterPan''.''Literature/PeterPan''. Lampshaded all over the episode.
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* EmbarrassingNickname: Toastrack, Nosebone.

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* EmbarrassingNickname: Toastrack, Nosebone.Nosebung.
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When time starts looping in on itself, Charley gives the Doctor her grand [[AnguishedDeclarationOfLove Anguished Declaration Of Love]] and begs him to just kill her. He throws an [[AnguishedDeclarationOfLove Anguished Declaration Of Love]] right back at her and refuses to kill her, instead rushing back into his TARDIS for a last-minute escape plan. He's interrupted by Rassilon himself, who freezes time just to give the Doctor his Fanboy Squee of Rassilon. [[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho030SeasonsOfFear The Doctor tells him everything that's been happening.]] With Rassilon's blessing, he then materialises his TARDIS around all of the anti-time, causing it to implode on itself and incorporate Charley's entire time warping into the regular timeline proper. He fully expects to die and to sacrifice the life of the TARDIS as well... without asking her. But they both live, and web of time is healed. It's scarred with inconsistencies, but stable. Charley's existence is no longer a cause for time warping, because the new web of time now can't have existed without Charley's existence. A proper paradox.

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When time starts looping in on itself, Charley gives the Doctor her grand [[AnguishedDeclarationOfLove Anguished Declaration Of Love]] and begs him to just kill her. He throws an [[AnguishedDeclarationOfLove Anguished Declaration Of Love]] right back at her and refuses to kill her, instead rushing back into his TARDIS for a last-minute escape plan. He's interrupted by Rassilon himself, who freezes time just to give the Doctor his Fanboy Squee of Rassilon. [[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho030SeasonsOfFear The Doctor tells him everything that's been happening.]] With Rassilon's blessing, he then materialises his TARDIS around all of the anti-time, causing it to implode on itself and incorporate Charley's entire time warping into the regular timeline proper. He fully expects to die and to sacrifice the life of the TARDIS as well... without asking her. But they both live, and web the Web of time Time is healed. It's scarred with inconsistencies, but stable. Charley's existence is no longer a cause for time warping, because the new web Web of time Time now can't have existed without Charley's existence. A proper paradox.

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