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'''Kara:''' No, we've lost too many good people already. [[KickTheSonOfABitch Thanks for volunteering, Lex]].
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'''Kara:''' No, we've lost too many good people already. [[KickTheSonOfABitch Thanks for volunteering, Lex]].Lex.
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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: This Oliver's Plan B if the heroes fail to stop the Anti-Monitor at the Dawn of Time: Send a team back to ancient Maltus to prevent Mar Novu from opening the gate to the Anti-Matter Universe. While the mission technically succeeds, it ultimately fails as another variant of Mar Novu elsewhere in the ancient Multiverse also pursued the same experiment and still kicked off the same chain of events.
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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: This is Oliver's Plan B if the heroes fail to stop the Anti-Monitor at the Dawn of Time: Send a team back to ancient Maltus to prevent Mar Novu from opening the gate to the Anti-Matter Universe. Dawn of Time (thereby preventing the chain of events that unleash the Anti-Monitor and the Crisis). While the mission technically ''technically'' succeeds, it ultimately fails as another variant of Mar Novu elsewhere in the ancient Multiverse also pursued the same experiment and still kicked off the same chain of events.set this whole mess in motion all over again.
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* XanatosGambit: When reuniting with the survivors at the Vanishing Point, Oliver knows the odds of the Paragons beating the Anti-Monitor at the Dawn of Time aren't in their favor. They need a backup plan just in case, which is why he proposes sending a team back to Maltus 10,000 years ago. Either the Paragons will prevail at the Dawn of Time, or the Maltus Team will successfully persuade the younger Mar Novu to abandon his experiment (thus preventing the chain of events that unleash Mobius). Unfortunately, everybody learns too late that Plan B was doomed from the start. The heroes didn't take into account Mar Novu's variants across the Multiverse and how one of them would inevitably still pursue the experiments and start this mess all over again. Only Plan A works (though not without casualties, as Oliver gives his life).
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* XanatosGambit: When reuniting with the survivors at the Vanishing Point, Oliver knows the odds of the Paragons beating the Anti-Monitor at the Dawn of Time aren't in their favor. They need a backup plan just in case, which is why he proposes sending a team back to Maltus 10,000 years ago. Either the Paragons will prevail at the Dawn of Time, or the Maltus Team will successfully persuade the younger Mar Novu to abandon his experiment (thus preventing the chain of events that unleash Mobius).Mobius and trigger the Crisis). Unfortunately, everybody learns too late that Plan B was doomed from the start. The heroes didn't take into account Mar Novu's countless variants across the Multiverse and how one of them would inevitably still pursue the experiments his experiment and start this whole mess all over again. Only Plan A ultimately works (though not without casualties, as Oliver gives his life).life to stop Mobius and reboot the Multiverse).
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* EvilOnlyHasToWinOnce: A variation when the heroes arrive at the Dawn of Time -- and find the Anti-Monitor still there despite Kara's team changing Mar Novu's history. As Mobius points out, yes, they stopped ''their'' Mar Novu from opening the gate...but he was only man across countless universes. The very nature of the Multiverse means there are countless other versions of the once and future Monitor spread out all across the infinitude. All it takes is one of those alternate Mar Novus -- one with the same towering ambition as his Prime counterpart -- to recreate the fateful experiment, open the gate to the Dawn of Time, and set this whole mess in motion all over again. As the Anti-Monitor succinctly puts it, his existence is an inevitability.
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* EvilOnlyHasToWinOnce: A variation when the heroes arrive at the Dawn of Time -- and find the Anti-Monitor still there despite Kara's team changing Mar Novu's history. As Mobius points out, yes, they stopped ''their'' Mar Novu from opening the gate...but he was only one man across countless universes. The very nature of the Multiverse means there are countless other versions of the once and future Monitor spread out all across the infinitude. All it takes is one of those alternate Mar Novus -- one with the same towering ambition as his Prime counterpart -- to recreate the fateful experiment, open the gate to the Dawn of Time, and set this whole mess in motion all over again. As the Anti-Monitor succinctly puts it, his existence is an inevitability.
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* OriginsEpisode: The crossover's penultimate installment reveals the origins of Mar Novu and Mobius -- and with it the genesis of the Crisis.
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* OriginsEpisode: The crossover's penultimate installment reveals the origins of the Arrowverse incarnations of Mar Novu and Mobius -- and with it the genesis of the Crisis.
* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: This Oliver's Plan B if the heroes fail to stop the Anti-Monitor at the Dawn of Time: Send a team back to ancient Maltus to prevent Mar Novu from opening the gate to the Anti-Matter Universe. While the mission technically succeeds, it ultimately fails as another variant of Mar Novu elsewhere in the ancient Multiverse also pursued the same experiment and still kicked off the same chain of events.
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* XanatosGambit: Oliver knows the odds of the Paragons beating the Anti-Monitor at the Dawn of Time aren't in their favor They need a backup plan just in case, which is why he proposes sending a team back to Maltus 10,000 years ago. Either the Paragons will prevail at the Dawn of Time, or the Maltus Team will successfully persuade the younger Mar Novu to abandon his experiment (thus preventing the chain of events that unleash Mobius). Unfortunately, everybody learns too late that Plan B was doomed from the start. The heroes didn't take into account Mar Novu's variants across the Multiverse and how one of them would inevitably still pursue the experiments and start this mess all over again. Only Plan A works (though not without casualties, as Oliver gives his life).
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* XanatosGambit: When reuniting with the survivors at the Vanishing Point, Oliver knows the odds of the Paragons beating the Anti-Monitor at the Dawn of Time aren't in their favor favor. They need a backup plan just in case, which is why he proposes sending a team back to Maltus 10,000 years ago. Either the Paragons will prevail at the Dawn of Time, or the Maltus Team will successfully persuade the younger Mar Novu to abandon his experiment (thus preventing the chain of events that unleash Mobius). Unfortunately, everybody learns too late that Plan B was doomed from the start. The heroes didn't take into account Mar Novu's variants across the Multiverse and how one of them would inevitably still pursue the experiments and start this mess all over again. Only Plan A works (though not without casualties, as Oliver gives his life).
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* XanatosGambit: Oliver knows the odds of the Paragons beating the Anti-Monitor at the Dawn of Time aren't in their favor They need a backup plan just in case, which is why he proposes sending a team back to Maltus 10,000 years ago. Either the Paragons will prevail at the Dawn of Time, or the Maltus Team will successfully persuade the younger Mar Novu to abandon his experiment (thus preventing the chain of events that unleash Mobius). Unfortunately, everybody learns too late that Plan B was doomed from the start. The heroes didn't take into account Mar Novu's variants across the Multiverse and how one of them would inevitably still pursue the experiments and start this mess all over again. Only Plan A works (though not without casualties, as Oliver gives his life).
