History RealityIsUnrealistic / AnimeAndManga

23rd Jul '16 11:38:57 AM nombretomado
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*** This, despite that a minor celebrity in the U.S. is [[http://www.101lifestyle.com/images/celebs/julie_chen/DCELEB-julie-chen-pics-001.jpg Julie Chen]], a former newsanchor, host of ''BigBrother'' and a talk-show host in the off-season.

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*** This, despite that a minor celebrity in the U.S. is [[http://www.101lifestyle.com/images/celebs/julie_chen/DCELEB-julie-chen-pics-001.jpg Julie Chen]], a former newsanchor, host of ''BigBrother'' ''Series/BigBrother'' and a talk-show host in the off-season.
21st Jun '16 5:12:26 PM nombretomado
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* One of the most common arguments to pop up in a ''SubbingVsDubbing'' debate is that certain characters sound too old or too young for their age group in English dubs. This is despite the fact that a person who sounds different from their actual age is definitely not unheard of in reality and extremely common, especially if they are right around the age when they hit puberty. There are even cases where a voice actor is accused of sounding "too young" for their character even though they are actually much older and that is their actual speaking voice. For example, it was a common complaint that Kotetsu from TigerAndBunny sounded "too young" in the English dub, even though Kotetsu is most likely in his 30s and his English voice actor, WallyWingert, is in his early 50s and is using his natural voice.

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* One of the most common arguments to pop up in a ''SubbingVsDubbing'' debate is that certain characters sound too old or too young for their age group in English dubs. This is despite the fact that a person who sounds different from their actual age is definitely not unheard of in reality and extremely common, especially if they are right around the age when they hit puberty. There are even cases where a voice actor is accused of sounding "too young" for their character even though they are actually much older and that is their actual speaking voice. For example, it was a common complaint that Kotetsu from TigerAndBunny ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' sounded "too young" in the English dub, even though Kotetsu is most likely in his 30s and his English voice actor, WallyWingert, is in his early 50s and is using his natural voice.
12th May '16 2:10:53 PM Wyldchyld
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** Some American fans complain that it's unrealistic, even accounting for Japanese cultural privacy, for fifteen year olds to live alone without any legal guardians or state intervention. However, in Western countries, including America, teenagers who are legally minors can indeed be found living alone without any guardians or state intervention. Psychology research has identified many reasons, including: parental abandonment/neglect[[note]](Mizuiro's mother isn't raising him, so he seduces older women to play a parental substitute role in her stead)[[/note]], death of any/all guardians[[note]](Sado's parents died when he was eight and his grandfather died before he reached fifteen)[[/note]], parental abuse[[note]](Three-year old Orihime was kidnapped by her eighteen-year old brother Sora to save her life from parental abuse. He died nine years later, leaving Orihime alone)[[/note]], walking out on the parents[[note]](Uryuu walked out on his father in disgust when he realised Ryuuken hates being a quincy, although it's strongly implied Ryuuken quit being quincy to save Uryuu's life, and is still secretly protecting him)[[/note]], or arrangements with family that allows for the child to be independent of all direct intervention except for financial support[[note]](Orihime's independence is actually funded by an aunt who has nothing to do with Orihime on a daily basis but who funds her on the understanding that she does well in school, [[DizyGenius which she does]])[[/note]]. In short, all the manga examples do occur in real life, even in the US.

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** Some American fans complain that it's unrealistic, even accounting for Japanese cultural privacy, for fifteen year olds to live alone without any legal guardians or state intervention. However, in Western countries, including America, teenagers who are legally minors can indeed be found living alone without any guardians or state intervention. Psychology research has identified many reasons, including: parental abandonment/neglect[[note]](Mizuiro's mother isn't raising him, so he seduces older women to play a parental substitute role in her stead)[[/note]], death of any/all guardians[[note]](Sado's parents died when he was eight and his grandfather died before he reached fifteen)[[/note]], parental abuse[[note]](Three-year old Orihime was kidnapped by her eighteen-year old brother Sora to save her life from parental abuse. He died nine years later, leaving Orihime alone)[[/note]], walking out on the parents[[note]](Uryuu walked out on his father in disgust when he realised Ryuuken hates being a quincy, although it's strongly implied Ryuuken quit being quincy to save Uryuu's life, and is still secretly protecting him)[[/note]], or arrangements with family that allows for the child to be independent of all direct intervention except for financial support[[note]](Orihime's independence is actually funded by an aunt who has nothing to do with Orihime on a daily basis but who funds her on the understanding that she does well in school, [[DizyGenius which she does]])[[/note]].does)[[/note]]. In short, all the manga examples do occur in real life, even in the US.
9th May '16 1:01:38 PM GlitteringFlowers
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** Some American fans complain that it's unrealistic, even accounting for Japanese cultural privacy, for fifteen year olds to live alone without any legal guardians or state intervention. However, in Western countries, including America, teenagers who are legally minors can indeed be found living alone without any guardians or state intervention. Psychology research has identified many reasons, including: parental abandonment/neglect[[note]]Mizuiro's mother isn't raising him, so he seduces older women to play a parental substitute role in her stead[[/note]], death of any/all guardians[[note]]Sado's parents died when he was eight and his grandfather died before he reached fifteen[[/note]], parental abuse[[note]]Three-year old Orihime was kidnapped by her eighteen-year old brother to save her life from parental abuse. He died nine years later, leaving Orihime alone[[/note]], walking out on the parents[[note]]Uryuu walked out on his father in disgust when he realised Ryuuken hates being a quincy, although it's strongly implied Ryuuken quit being quincy to save Uryuu's life, and is still secretly protecting him[[/note]], or arrangements with family that allows for the child to be independent of all direct intervention except for financial support[[note]]Orihime's independence is actually funded by an aunt who has nothing to do with Orihime on a daily basis but who funds her on the understanding that she does well in school. Orihime does very well in school[[/note]]. In short, all the manga examples do occur in real life, even in the US.
* ''Manga/WanderingSon'' fans bemoan that [[spoiler:Takatsuki]] no longer considers themselves {{transsexual}} by the end. People cry that it's unrealistic and [=OOC=] but studies have shown that most children who can be considered transgender grow up to be cisgender identified when they're older. Also it's left ambiguous in the end whether they're really cis or it's a phase due to confusion, having no support, and lack of confidence.

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** Some American fans complain that it's unrealistic, even accounting for Japanese cultural privacy, for fifteen year olds to live alone without any legal guardians or state intervention. However, in Western countries, including America, teenagers who are legally minors can indeed be found living alone without any guardians or state intervention. Psychology research has identified many reasons, including: parental abandonment/neglect[[note]]Mizuiro's abandonment/neglect[[note]](Mizuiro's mother isn't raising him, so he seduces older women to play a parental substitute role in her stead[[/note]], stead)[[/note]], death of any/all guardians[[note]]Sado's guardians[[note]](Sado's parents died when he was eight and his grandfather died before he reached fifteen[[/note]], fifteen)[[/note]], parental abuse[[note]]Three-year abuse[[note]](Three-year old Orihime was kidnapped by her eighteen-year old brother Sora to save her life from parental abuse. He died nine years later, leaving Orihime alone[[/note]], alone)[[/note]], walking out on the parents[[note]]Uryuu parents[[note]](Uryuu walked out on his father in disgust when he realised Ryuuken hates being a quincy, although it's strongly implied Ryuuken quit being quincy to save Uryuu's life, and is still secretly protecting him[[/note]], him)[[/note]], or arrangements with family that allows for the child to be independent of all direct intervention except for financial support[[note]]Orihime's support[[note]](Orihime's independence is actually funded by an aunt who has nothing to do with Orihime on a daily basis but who funds her on the understanding that she does well in school. Orihime does very well in school[[/note]].school, [[DizyGenius which she does]])[[/note]]. In short, all the manga examples do occur in real life, even in the US.
* ''Manga/WanderingSon'' fans bemoan that [[spoiler:Takatsuki]] no longer considers themselves {{transsexual}} by the end. People cry that it's unrealistic and [=OOC=] but studies have shown that most children who can be considered transgender grow up to be cisgender identified when they're older. Also it's left ambiguous in the end whether they're really cis or it's a phase due to confusion, having no support, and lack of confidence.
21st Jan '16 10:40:44 AM Willbyr
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* In ''TransformersCybertron,'' Jetfire was voiced by a different actor than in the previous two seasons, ''Armada'' and ''Energon.'' ThePowersThatBe wanted the new version to sound Australian. The kicker? (No, not [[TheScrappy that annoying kid from Energon]].) The old actor, Scott [=McNeil=], is Australian. The new one, Brian Drummond, is Canadian. As the [[Wiki/TFWikiDotNet Transformers Wiki]] puts it, clearly, [=McNeil=] was insufficiently Australian.

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* In ''TransformersCybertron,'' ''Anime/TransformersCybertron,'' Jetfire was voiced by a different actor than in the previous two seasons, ''Armada'' and ''Energon.'' ThePowersThatBe wanted the new version to sound Australian. The kicker? (No, not [[TheScrappy that annoying kid from Energon]].) The old actor, Scott [=McNeil=], is Australian. The new one, Brian Drummond, is Canadian. As the [[Wiki/TFWikiDotNet Transformers Wiki]] puts it, clearly, [=McNeil=] was insufficiently Australian.



* Yasuna from ''KashimashiGirlMeetsGirl'' has a physical condition where she can't see men's faces. It comes off as a blur in the anime, and an outline in the manga. A lot of fans and critics believe it to be an outlandish made-up disease or a psychological problem. Her condition is actually very similar to a real disorder called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia Prosopagnosia]], albeit hers is probably a mild form... [[spoiler:In the manga at least.]] One sufferer of the disorder has stated that the portrayal is rather realistic.

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* Yasuna from ''KashimashiGirlMeetsGirl'' ''Manga/KashimashiGirlMeetsGirl'' has a physical condition where she can't see men's faces. It comes off as a blur in the anime, and an outline in the manga. A lot of fans and critics believe it to be an outlandish made-up disease or a psychological problem. Her condition is actually very similar to a real disorder called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia Prosopagnosia]], albeit hers is probably a mild form... [[spoiler:In the manga at least.]] One sufferer of the disorder has stated that the portrayal is rather realistic.
7th Jan '16 10:54:47 AM nombretomado
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* Some viewers of ''SoraNoWoto'' complained about how ludicrous the old house perched on a cliff shown in the first episode was. The whole series location is an accurate recreation of the Spanish town of Cuenca, and the house is a popular tourist spot.

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* Some viewers of ''SoraNoWoto'' ''Anime/SoundOfTheSky'' complained about how ludicrous the old house perched on a cliff shown in the first episode was. The whole series location is an accurate recreation of the Spanish town of Cuenca, and the house is a popular tourist spot.
19th Dec '15 11:22:13 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Used in a very 'meta' manner in ''LightNovel/AsobiNiIkuYo''. Eris - a bona-fide CatGirl alien - gets targeted by a [[BrotherhoodOfFunnyHats Secret Society]] of hardcore sci-fi fans who simply refuse to accept that humanity's FirstContact is with a HumanAlien - they want something [[StarfishAlien PROPERLY alien]]! Even better, Kio brings Eris along to help his movie-club shoot a sci-fi movie, but not only is Eris not alien enough, her [[DoAnythingRobot Assistaroids]] look fake, and - here's the kicker - her spaceship, which she can remote-control, uses a form of superstring braking to maintain flight at very slow speeds, which resembles... strings, going upwards from the corners of the ship. So her ship ends up looking ridiculously fake in all their shots as well. Ultimately, they decide to scrap the sci-fi plot and shoot a [[HaremAnime Romantic Comedy]] instead.

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* Used in a very 'meta' manner in ''LightNovel/AsobiNiIkuYo''.''LightNovel/CatPlanetCuties''. Eris - a bona-fide CatGirl alien - gets targeted by a [[BrotherhoodOfFunnyHats Secret Society]] of hardcore sci-fi fans who simply refuse to accept that humanity's FirstContact is with a HumanAlien - they want something [[StarfishAlien PROPERLY alien]]! Even better, Kio brings Eris along to help his movie-club shoot a sci-fi movie, but not only is Eris not alien enough, her [[DoAnythingRobot Assistaroids]] look fake, and - here's the kicker - her spaceship, which she can remote-control, uses a form of superstring braking to maintain flight at very slow speeds, which resembles... strings, going upwards from the corners of the ship. So her ship ends up looking ridiculously fake in all their shots as well. Ultimately, they decide to scrap the sci-fi plot and shoot a [[HaremAnime Romantic Comedy]] instead.
13th Dec '15 9:29:44 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'''s May, Dawn, and to a certain extent Misty (even though the last one is actually flat-chested, something explicitly stated on the show) are often accused of being unrealistically "well-developed" for a 10-year-old. In reality, puberty for young girls has gotten much lower in recent generations because girls are fatter than they used to be (a girl needs a certain amount of body fat before she can begin puberty). Thus the average age for puberty to start in girls is actually at nine and ten years old. Not surprisingly, this shocks people in ''real life'' as well.
** Lest we not forget, the world's youngest recorded mother was ''[[http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp five years old]]'' well before such chemical exposures were likely to have happened; individual differences in this regard are, and have always been, huge. And in any case, minor breast growth can happen even before the puberty kicks in with full force.
** It's also not uncommon for precocious puberty to be a temporary thing, environmentally or otherwise, such as in an Italian school in the 1970s where boys and girls started [[http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2879%2990304-0/abstract growing breasts]] -- believed to be from exposure to contaminated beef or poultry. The effects disappeared within 8 months.
** Plus, babies have been known to grow breast buds and secrete [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactorrhea "witch's milk"]], i.e. infant lactation, due to exposure of estrogen and other hormones from their mother's womb or breast milk.

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May, Dawn, and to a certain extent Misty (even though the last one is actually flat-chested, something explicitly stated on the show) are often accused of being unrealistically "well-developed" for a 10-year-old. In reality, puberty for young girls has gotten much lower in recent generations because girls are fatter than they used to be (a girl needs a certain amount of body fat before she can begin puberty). Thus the average age for puberty to start in girls is actually at nine and ten years old. Not surprisingly, this shocks people in ''real life'' as well.
** *** Lest we not forget, the world's youngest recorded mother was ''[[http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp five years old]]'' well before such chemical exposures were likely to have happened; individual differences in this regard are, and have always been, huge. And in any case, minor breast growth can happen even before the puberty kicks in with full force.
** *** It's also not uncommon for precocious puberty to be a temporary thing, environmentally or otherwise, such as in an Italian school in the 1970s where boys and girls started [[http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2879%2990304-0/abstract growing breasts]] -- believed to be from exposure to contaminated beef or poultry. The effects disappeared within 8 months.
** *** Plus, babies have been known to grow breast buds and secrete [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactorrhea "witch's milk"]], i.e. infant lactation, due to exposure of estrogen and other hormones from their mother's womb or breast milk.


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* A complaint some people have with ''Anime/MichikoToHatchin'' is that it takes place in a fictional country heavily based on Brazil yet almost everyone has a [[MultiethnicName Japanese given name]] even when they don't seem to be multiracial. Ignoring the fact it's a fictional country and thus it could have a history with Japan, Brazil itself has a rather large Japanese population.
5th Dec '15 9:54:19 PM Blazer
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*** In fact, as far back as the original Gundam novel trilogy written by Creator/YoshiyukiTomino has this been used. In fact, there's a scene where Char Aznable tells other soldiers that if you see the barrel of a beam cannon, you're dead.
5th Oct '15 12:14:01 AM Pichu-kun
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* ''HourouMusuko'' fans bemoan that [[spoiler:Takatsuki]] no longer considers themselves {{transsexual}} by the end. People cry that it's unrealistic and [=OOC=] but studies have shown that most children who can be considered transgender grow up to be cisgender identified when they're older. Also it's left ambiguous in the end whether they're really cis or it's a phase due to confusion, having no support, and lack of confidence.

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* ''HourouMusuko'' ''Manga/WanderingSon'' fans bemoan that [[spoiler:Takatsuki]] no longer considers themselves {{transsexual}} by the end. People cry that it's unrealistic and [=OOC=] but studies have shown that most children who can be considered transgender grow up to be cisgender identified when they're older. Also it's left ambiguous in the end whether they're really cis or it's a phase due to confusion, having no support, and lack of confidence.
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