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-->-- '''itch.io user 4MyHonestOpinions'' on ''VideoGame/TheSakabashiraGame''

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-->-- '''itch.io user 4MyHonestOpinions'' 4MyHonestOpinions''' on ''VideoGame/TheSakabashiraGame''
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->''"I honestly didn't like the characters. Hardly anyone's likable, especially when all of their confessions [[AssPull come out of left field]] and [[PlayerCharacter Alex]] somehow completely forgets about it after a scene or two.''"
-->-- '''itch.io user 4MyHonestOpinions'' on ''VideoGame/TheSakabashiraGame''
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->''"A depressing world where horrible things are constantly happening to people who are, themselves, mostly complicit in making their world worse or everyone? Where have we seen that before? Uh... everywhere: Series/GameOfThrones, Series/BreakingBad, Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack, Series/TwentyFour, Series/{{Oz}},'' ''[[Series/HouseOfCardsUS House of Cards]],'' ''Series/{{Utopia}}, Series/SharpObjects, Series/DeadToMe,'' ''[[Series/TheMagicians2016 The Magicians]],'' ''Series/{{Vikings}}, Series/{{Ozark}}, Series/{{Westworld}}, Series/PeakyBlinders, Series/{{Narcos}}. ...Dark... The list of bleak shows from the last 10 years or so is extremely long. [[BlackAndGrayMorality They all feature a cast of characters who range from amoral to downright evil.]] [[GoodIsDumb Anyone who is good or heroic is necessarily naive.]] And as a result, they are either [[KillTheCutie killed off]] or [[TraumaCongaLine so many horrible things happen to them]] that they lose sight of their own morality over time."''

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->''"A depressing world where horrible things are constantly happening to people who are, themselves, mostly complicit in making their world worse or for everyone? Where have we seen that before? Uh... everywhere: Series/GameOfThrones, Series/BreakingBad, Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack, Series/TwentyFour, Series/{{Oz}},'' ''[[Series/HouseOfCardsUS House of Cards]],'' ''Series/{{Utopia}}, Series/SharpObjects, Series/DeadToMe,'' ''[[Series/TheMagicians2016 The Magicians]],'' ''Series/{{Vikings}}, Series/{{Ozark}}, Series/{{Westworld}}, Series/PeakyBlinders, Series/{{Narcos}}. ...Dark... The list of bleak shows from the last 10 years or so is extremely long. [[BlackAndGrayMorality They all feature a cast of characters who range from amoral to downright evil.]] [[GoodIsDumb Anyone who is good or heroic is necessarily naive.]] And as a result, they are either [[KillTheCutie killed off]] or [[TraumaCongaLine so many horrible things happen to them]] that they lose sight of their own morality over time."''
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That was Angst Aversion.


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->"To protect them from being abused, my emotions have detached themselves from this animated film."
-->--'''WebVideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter''' on ''Animation/DoggyPoo''
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->'''''My thoughts:''''' ''I am feeling my interest waning in all modern stories, and this is the primary reason. If the whole message of these stories is "You shouldn't care or get invested in any of these stories or characters, because they're all failures and their journies end in failure", then I have to ask myself...why should I care or get invested in these stories then? Why should I even bother with them at all?''
-->--'''knightfluttershy''', [[Website/{{Reddit}} r/saltierthancrait]], [[https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/10d0bag/why_do_all_modern_stories_have_to_be_so_goddamn/ on]] the ''Franchise/StarWars'' Sequel Trilogy
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-->--[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EGqQpl0CGk Opening scene]] of ''Film/Scream4''

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-->--[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EGqQpl0CGk -->--[[https://youtu.be/HpG6T0QaQXg?si=y-IVSq8Kx3IVczqU&t=39 Opening scene]] of ''Film/Scream4''
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->''"To be honest, I'm hard-pressed to envision how a game about Gollum ''could've'' worked. On the narrative level, one can get behind [[VideoGame/GodOfWar a nasty, effective protagonist]] or [[VideoGame/MonkeyIsland a nice, ineffectual one]], but nasty and ineffectual? That's just depressing, even before I had to watch the little scrote die an average of fifty times an hour, knowing that his eventual lifelong peak will only come after he bites a finger off a nice, pretty Creator/ElijahWood.''"
-->-- '''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''' on ''VideoGame/TheLordOfTheRingsGollum''
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->''"When you completely shit on the characters that we've loved for so long; when you [[ReplacementScrappy replace them with worse characters]]; when you treat your few, new good characters like shit and misuse them even; when you [[DiabolusExMachina leave everything in a worse place than before]], and [[FanDisillusionment make us not even give a shit about the license anymore]], it is a bad fucking time, period! And a bad fucking game!"''

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->''"When you completely shit on the characters that we've loved for so long; when you [[ReplacementScrappy replace them with worse characters]]; when you treat your few, new good characters like shit and misuse them even; when you [[DiabolusExMachina leave everything in a worse place than before]], and [[FanDisillusionment make us not even give a shit about the license anymore]], anymore, it is a bad fucking time, period! And a bad fucking game!"''
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->"[[EightDeadlyWords Is EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER in the film a loathsome cad?!]] Did Governor [[Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger Schwarzenegger]] just designate Visalia as [[CrapsackWorld a haven for assholes that were too assholian for greater Los Angeles]]? Is the town [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer built over a hellmouth]] that attracts people who are less appealing than Richard III? I don't want to sound callous, but I want to see this place become a CRATER!"

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->"[[EightDeadlyWords Is EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER in the film a loathsome cad?!]] Did Governor [[Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger Schwarzenegger]] just designate Visalia as [[CrapsackWorld a haven for assholes that were too assholian for greater Los Angeles]]? Is the town [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer built over a hellmouth]] that attracts people who are less appealing than Richard III? Theatre/RichardIII? I don't want to sound callous, but I want to see this place become a CRATER!"
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->''"If a situation is thoroughly hopeless, your audience is more likely to emotionally check out from the story than they are to hope extra-hard that things work out. If your heroes don't have a fighting chance, then why are we even watching?"''
-->-- '''Red''', ''WebAnimation/OverlySarcasticProductions'', Trope Talk: Post Apocalypses

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TBSC means you stop caring how and thus before it ends, so complaints about/won't become evident the ending don't count. And TWAPGC is about lack of screentime not handeling.


->''"When you completely shit on the characters that we've loved for so long; when you [[ReplacementScrappy replace them with worse characters]]; when you [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter treat your few, new good characters like shit and misuse them even]]; when you [[DiabolusExMachina leave everything in a worse place than before]], and [[FanDisillusionment make us not even give a shit about the license anymore]], it is a bad fucking time, period! And a bad fucking game!"''

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->''"When you completely shit on the characters that we've loved for so long; when you [[ReplacementScrappy replace them with worse characters]]; when you [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter treat your few, new good characters like shit and misuse them even]]; even; when you [[DiabolusExMachina leave everything in a worse place than before]], and [[FanDisillusionment make us not even give a shit about the license anymore]], it is a bad fucking time, period! And a bad fucking game!"''



->''"Man there's like no one to root for in this series. There's no one to root for. You wanna root for Six? You wanna root for the Nome eater? You wanna root for.... the one who [[EtTuBrute let go of Mono's hand?]] You wanna root for Mono, [[FallenHero who becomes Static Man and fucks everything up apparently?]]"''
-->--'''[[LetsPlay/JohnWolfe John Wolfe]]''' on the ''[[VideoGame/LittleNightmaresII Little Nightmares 2]] [[https://youtu.be/o8oBddbUFM4?t=4093 ending]].''
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-->--'''[[LetsPlay/JohnWolfe John Wolfe]]''' on the ''[[VideoGame/LittleNightmaresII Little Nightmares 2]] ending.''

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-->--'''[[LetsPlay/JohnWolfe John Wolfe]]''' on the ''[[VideoGame/LittleNightmaresII Little Nightmares 2]] ending.[[https://youtu.be/o8oBddbUFM4?t=4093 ending]].''
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->''The sound may be different, but the problems are all the same. Music/{{Drake}} is moody and resentful of the women in his life. This is starting to sound like a you problem, Drake. Like, I thought this look into his relationship struggles was amazing ten years ago, but it's gotten so stale. It kind of feels to me like prestige-drama fatigue. Like when you're on the fifth season and it's like, "Oh, I get it. This guy's gonna keep having the same problems and complaining about them but never change or learn anything or grow as a person." What I'm saying is, this song makes me think I should start watching ''Series/TedLasso'' instead.''

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->''The ->''[[NewSoundAlbum The sound may be different, different]], but the problems are all the same. Music/{{Drake}} is moody and resentful of the women in his life. This is starting to sound like a you problem, Drake. Like, I thought this look into his relationship struggles was amazing ten years ago, but it's gotten so stale. It kind of feels to me like prestige-drama fatigue. Like when you're on the fifth season and it's like, "Oh, I get it. This guy's gonna keep having the same problems and complaining about them but never change or learn anything or grow as a person." What I'm saying is, this song makes me think I should start watching ''Series/TedLasso'' instead.''
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->"I don't want to sound callous, but I want to see this place become a CRATER!"

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->"I ->"[[EightDeadlyWords Is EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER in the film a loathsome cad?!]] Did Governor [[Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger Schwarzenegger]] just designate Visalia as [[CrapsackWorld a haven for assholes that were too assholian for greater Los Angeles]]? Is the town [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer built over a hellmouth]] that attracts people who are less appealing than Richard III? I don't want to sound callous, but I want to see this place become a CRATER!"
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->''Is that supposed to shock us? We found out a moment ago that the twins are Lori's. At some point you just run out of monocles to pop.''
-->--'''[[WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse Luan Loud]]''', ''Fanfic/PeekingThroughTheFourthWall'', After Dark: 4 (Lori is the twins' older sister by eleven years)
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->'''''My thoughts:''''' ''I am feeling my interest waning in all modern stories, and this is the primary reason. If the whole message of these stories is "You shouldn't care or get invested in any of these stories or characters, because they're all failures and their journies end in failure", then I have to ask myself...why should I care or get invested in these stories then? Why should I even bother with them at all?''
-->--'''knightfluttershy''', [[Website/{{Reddit}} r/saltierthancrait]], [[https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/10d0bag/why_do_all_modern_stories_have_to_be_so_goddamn/ on]] the ''Franchise/StarWars'' Sequel Trilogy

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->''"Stick to an extremely cynical outlook on human behavior and be sure to wallow in darkness while completely failing to add any kind of contrast. It's not like the audience needs anyone to root for. Leave the audience hopeless, helpless, and alone. Subject them to a bleak future of silence and desperation as they struggle to make their voices heard only to face a dark empty and uncaring universe. There is no hope, only empty despair as one trudges past the broken works of those who came before, the silent ruins a testament to their false pride. Kinda like my Facebook feed."''
-->--'''JP Beaubien,''' ''WebAnimation/TerribleWritingAdvice'', POST APOCALYPTIC



-->--'''JP Beaubien,''' ''WebAnimation/TerribleWritingAdvice''

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-->--'''JP Beaubien,''' ''WebAnimation/TerribleWritingAdvice''
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->"There is no hope, only empty despair as one trudges pass the broken works of those who came before; the silent ruins a testament to their false pride. Kinda like my Facebook feed."
-->--'''WebAnimation/TerribleWritingAdvice - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdJdgbrVzgA POST APOCALYPTIC]]'''
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->''"Man there's like no one to root for in this series. There's no one to root for. You wanna root for Six? You wanna root for the Nome eater? You wanna root for.... the one who [[EtTuBrute let go of Mono's hand?]] You wanna root for Mono, [[FallenHero who becomes Static Man and fucks everything up apparently?]]"''
-->--'''[[LetsPlay/JohnWolfe John Wolfe]]''' on the ''[[VideoGame/LittleNightmaresII Little Nightmares 2]] ending.''
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->''The sound may be different, but the problems are all the same. Music/{{Drake}} is moody and resentful of the women in his life. This is starting to sound like a you problem, Drake. Like, I thought this look into his relationship struggles was amazing ten years ago, but it's gotten so stale. It kind of feels to me like prestige-drama fatigue. Like when you're on the fifth season and it's like, "Oh, I get it. This guy's gonna keep having the same problems and complaining about them but never change or learn anything or grow as a person." What I'm saying is, this song makes me think I should start watching ''Series/TedLasso'' instead.''
-->--'''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows''' on "Falling Back"
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->If you lose track of which side is ladling out the death, then you might miss out on the happy ending toward which these books are headed. I don’t want to spoil that for you, but as the series develops, we’ll see that the Bad Side just isn’t able to keep up. As powerful as the Antichrist may be, he is no match for an omnipotent God. Thus the Good Side ultimately winds up indiscriminately killing way more people than the Bad Side does. And that of course means that the Good Side wins — something we can all celebrate.

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->If you lose track of which side is ladling out the death, then you might miss out on the happy ending toward which these books are headed. I don’t want to spoil that for you, but as the series develops, we’ll see that the Bad Side just isn’t able to keep up. As powerful as the Antichrist may be, he is no match for an omnipotent God. Thus the Good Side ultimately winds up indiscriminately killing way more people than the Bad Side does. And that of course means that the Good Side wins — something we can all celebrate.''
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->''This moral logic can get a bit tricky to follow as the series goes on and the body count of the ]]TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Great Tribulation]] accelerates. It’s very important for us, the readers, to keep track of the particular source of each ensuing incident of massive, indiscriminate death. [[SarcasmMode Remember: massive, indiscriminate death is, in itself, morally neutral.]] The morality of such killing can only be determined by discerning who is doing the killing. [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality If it’s the Good Side killing all those people, then such killing is good and righteous and praiseworthy. But if it’s the Bad Side doing the killing, then it’s bad, unrighteous and “maddening.”]]

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->''This moral logic can get a bit tricky to follow as the series goes on and the body count of the ]]TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Great Tribulation]] accelerates. It’s very important for us, the readers, to keep track of the particular source of each ensuing incident of massive, indiscriminate death. [[SarcasmMode Remember: massive, indiscriminate death is, in itself, morally neutral.]] The morality of such killing can only be determined by discerning who is doing the killing. [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality If it’s the Good Side killing all those people, then such killing is good and righteous and praiseworthy. But if it’s the Bad Side doing the killing, then it’s bad, unrighteous and “maddening.”]]
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->''This moral logic can get a bit tricky to follow as the series goes on and the body count of the ]]TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Great Tribulation]] accelerates. It’s very important for us, the readers, to keep track of the particular source of each ensuing incident of massive, indiscriminate death. [[SarcasmMode Remember: massive, indiscriminate death is, in itself, morally neutral.]] The morality of such killing can only be determined by discerning who is doing the killing. [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality If it’s the Good Side killing all those people, then such killing is good and righteous and praiseworthy. But if it’s the Bad Side doing the killing, then it’s bad, unrighteous and “maddening.”]]
->If you lose track of which side is ladling out the death, then you might miss out on the happy ending toward which these books are headed. I don’t want to spoil that for you, but as the series develops, we’ll see that the Bad Side just isn’t able to keep up. As powerful as the Antichrist may be, he is no match for an omnipotent God. Thus the Good Side ultimately winds up indiscriminately killing way more people than the Bad Side does. And that of course means that the Good Side wins — something we can all celebrate.
-->--'''The Slacktivist''' [[https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/07/06/nra-the-man-who-killed-bruce-barnes/ mocking]] ''Literature/LeftBehind''
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->[[CrapsackWorld Ruined World]] + [[WorldOfJerkass cast of Jerk]] = I don't care what happens to these guys

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->[[CrapsackWorld Ruined World]] + [[WorldOfJerkass cast of Jerk]] = [[EightDeadlyWords I don't care what happens to these guysguys]]
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->This is part of the reason why I've been putting off reviewing {{Anime/Genocyber}} for so long. It's not enough that the show is mean-spirited, but it revels in the fact that it's mean-spirited.
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/BennettTheSage Bennett the Sage]]''' on {{Anime/Genocyber}} Part I
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-->--''Out Of Frame'', '''Morality is Dead. Hollywood Killed It.'''

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-->--''Out Of of Frame'', '''Morality is Dead. Hollywood Killed It.'''
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->''"A depressing world where horrible things are constantly happening to people who are, themselves, mostly complicit in making their world worse or everyone? Where have we seen that before? Uh... everywhere: Series/GameOfThrones, Series/BreakingBad, Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack, Series/TwentyFour, Series/{{Oz}}, Series/HouseOfCardsUS, Series/{{Utopia}}, Series/SharpObjects, Series/DeadToMe, Series/TheMagicians2016, Series/{{Vikings}}, Series/{{Ozark}}, Series/{{Westworld}}, Series/PeakyBlinders, Series/{{Narcos}}. ...Dark... The list of bleak shows from the last 10 years or so is extremely long. [[BlackAndGrayMorality They all feature a cast of characters who range from amoral to downright evil.]] [[GoodIsDumb Anyone who is good or heroic is necessarily naive.]] And as a result, they are either [[KillTheCutie killed off]] or [[TraumaCongaLine so many horrible things happen to them]] that they lose sight of their own morality over time."''

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->''"A depressing world where horrible things are constantly happening to people who are, themselves, mostly complicit in making their world worse or everyone? Where have we seen that before? Uh... everywhere: Series/GameOfThrones, Series/BreakingBad, Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack, Series/TwentyFour, Series/{{Oz}}, Series/HouseOfCardsUS, Series/{{Utopia}}, Series/{{Oz}},'' ''[[Series/HouseOfCardsUS House of Cards]],'' ''Series/{{Utopia}}, Series/SharpObjects, Series/DeadToMe, Series/TheMagicians2016, Series/{{Vikings}}, Series/DeadToMe,'' ''[[Series/TheMagicians2016 The Magicians]],'' ''Series/{{Vikings}}, Series/{{Ozark}}, Series/{{Westworld}}, Series/PeakyBlinders, Series/{{Narcos}}. ...Dark... The list of bleak shows from the last 10 years or so is extremely long. [[BlackAndGrayMorality They all feature a cast of characters who range from amoral to downright evil.]] [[GoodIsDumb Anyone who is good or heroic is necessarily naive.]] And as a result, they are either [[KillTheCutie killed off]] or [[TraumaCongaLine so many horrible things happen to them]] that they lose sight of their own morality over time."''
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->''"A depressing world where horrible things are constantly happening to people who are, themselves, mostly complicit in making their world worse or everyone? Where have we seen that before? Uh... everywhere: Series/GameOfThrones, Series/BreakingBad, Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack, Series/TwentyFour, Series/{{Oz}}, Series/HouseOfCardsUS, Series/{{Utopia}}, Series/SharpObjects, Series/DeadToMe, Series/TheMagicians2016, Series/{{Vikings}}, Series/{{Ozark}}, Series/{{Westworld}}, Series/{{PeakyBlinders}}, Series/{{Narcos}}. ...Dark... The list of bleak shows from the last 10 years or so is extremely long. [[BlackAndGrayMorality They all feature a cast of characters who range from amoral to downright evil.]] [[GoodIsDumb Anyone who is good or heroic is necessarily naive.]] And as a result, they are either [[KillTheCutie killed off]] or [[TraumaCongaLine so many horrible things happen to them]] that they lose sight of their own morality over time."''

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->''"A depressing world where horrible things are constantly happening to people who are, themselves, mostly complicit in making their world worse or everyone? Where have we seen that before? Uh... everywhere: Series/GameOfThrones, Series/BreakingBad, Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack, Series/TwentyFour, Series/{{Oz}}, Series/HouseOfCardsUS, Series/{{Utopia}}, Series/SharpObjects, Series/DeadToMe, Series/TheMagicians2016, Series/{{Vikings}}, Series/{{Ozark}}, Series/{{Westworld}}, Series/{{PeakyBlinders}}, Series/PeakyBlinders, Series/{{Narcos}}. ...Dark... The list of bleak shows from the last 10 years or so is extremely long. [[BlackAndGrayMorality They all feature a cast of characters who range from amoral to downright evil.]] [[GoodIsDumb Anyone who is good or heroic is necessarily naive.]] And as a result, they are either [[KillTheCutie killed off]] or [[TraumaCongaLine so many horrible things happen to them]] that they lose sight of their own morality over time."''
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->''"A depressing world where horrible things are constantly happening to people who are, themselves, mostly complicit in making their world worse or everyone? Where have we seen that before? Uh... everywhere: Series/GameOfThrones, Series/BreakingBad, Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack, Series/TwentyFour, Series/{{Oz}}, Series/HouseOfCardsUS, Series/{{Utopia}}, Series/SharpObjects, Series/DeadToMe, Series/TheMagicians2016, Series/{{Vikings}}, Series/{{Ozark}}, Series/{{Westworld}}, Series/{{PeakyBlinders}}, Series/{{Narcos}}. ...Dark... The list of bleak shows from the last 10 years or so is extremely long. [[BlackAndGrayMorality They all feature a cast of characters who range from amoral to downright evil.]] [[GoodIsDumb Anyone who is good or heroic is necessarily naive.]] And as a result, they are either [[KillTheCutie killed off]] or [[TraumaCongaLine so many horrible things happen to them]] that they lose sight of their own morality over time."''
-->--''Out Of Frame'', '''Morality is Dead. Hollywood Killed It.'''
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'''Trudie:''' [[TakeThat But you don't give a shit who dies because there's no]] {{character development}}. There's just [[{{Gorn}} body parts ripping and blood spewing]]. Ugh!

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'''Trudie:''' [[TakeThat But you don't give a shit who dies because there's no]] {{character development}}.no character development]]. There's just [[{{Gorn}} body parts ripping and blood spewing]]. Ugh!



->''Every character is annoying. [[TheBadGuyWins The bad guy always wins, every single time.]] [[BlackAndGrayMorality The good guy isn't even that good in comparison.]]''

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->''Every character is annoying. [[TheBadGuyWins The bad guy always wins, wins]], every single time.]] time. [[BlackAndGrayMorality The good guy isn't even that good in comparison.]]''

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