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18th Jan '16 1:07:02 PM hamonrye
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->When the series is written or talked about now, so much time is devoted to "jump the shark" moments and the whole Fonzie phenomenon (they actually got Winkler to [[NowBuyTheMerchandise hold up a Mego doll version of himself]] this season...remarkable), that what gets lost are those beginning seasons, where ''Happy Days'' looked at nice-kid Richie Cunningham trying to grow up and make sense of his life...No [[StrangledByTheRedString Pinky Tuscadero]] or shark tanks or god help us [[ReplacementScrappy Ted McGinley]], or Richie with a bad comb-over and a mustache, or Fonzie with [[HowTheMightyHaveFallen a pot belly and a beard hiding his double chin.]]
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->When the series is written or talked about now, so much time is devoted to "jump the shark" moments and the whole Fonzie phenomenon (they actually got Winkler to [[NowBuyTheMerchandise hold up a Mego doll version of himself]] this season...remarkable), season--remarkable), that what gets lost are those beginning seasons, where ''Happy Days'' looked at nice-kid Richie Cunningham trying to grow up and make sense of his life...No [[StrangledByTheRedString Pinky Tuscadero]] or shark tanks or god help us [[ReplacementScrappy Ted McGinley]], or Richie with a bad comb-over and a mustache, or Fonzie with [[HowTheMightyHaveFallen a pot belly and a beard hiding his double chin.]]
1st Jan '16 6:31:20 PM hamonrye
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->What was once a weekly mini-feature film-- and often one with the suggestive power of a documentary at that-- all of a sudden became television. Well-conceived, well-written, well-produced television, but ''television'' nonetheless. Visionary genius producer Bob Goodwin- who referenced Caravaggio as his model for the look of the show-- was replaced with Michael Watkins, who didn't have much of a track record yet seemed bent on making ''The X-Files'' [[FollowTheLeader look more the other dramas on television]] (if not more like television commercials), not something that stood apart. -->--'''[[http://secretsunjr.blogspot.com/2015/08/x-files-lite-part-1-season-six.html Christopher Loring Knowles]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles''
23rd Nov '15 7:44:08 AM rcmerod52
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->''"Among big-time popstars, if they, you know, put out ten albums, around the fourth album, they canít make very good songs. The albums sell, but everyone at the concerts wants to hear songs from those first three albums. Everyone."'' -->-- '''Creator/ShigesatoItoi''' explaining why he will not make a fourth ''{{VideoGame/MOTHER}}'' game
13th Nov '15 4:42:03 AM hamonrye
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->Timelash is on the short list of serials broadly agreed to be 'the worst ''Doctor Who'' stories ever.' Given how prone science-fiction fans are to bickering about absolutely everything, and how impossible it is to find consensus, thatís [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible really saying something]]. More than that, it ranks with quite a few Colin Baker stories among that list. I canít help but wonder if part of the problem with Bakerís tenure isnít a lack of classic episodes ([[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS22E6RevelationOfTheDaleks}} Revelation of the Daleks]] and [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS22E2VengeanceOnVaros}} Vengeance on Varos]] surely count), but the batting average skewed by so many truly terrible stories... Whatís really weird about Bakerís terrible episodes is the fact that they all seem to suffer from the same problems. Thereís [[TheyJustDidntCare no attempt to learn from past mistakes or to rectify those problems]].
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->Timelash is on the short list of serials broadly agreed to be 'the worst ''Doctor Who'' stories ever.' Given how prone science-fiction fans are to bickering about absolutely everything, and how impossible it is to find consensus, thatís [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible really saying something]]. More than that, it ranks with quite a few Colin Baker stories among that list. I canít help but wonder if part of the problem with Bakerís tenure isnít a lack of classic episodes ([[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS22E6RevelationOfTheDaleks}} Revelation of the Daleks]] and [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS22E2VengeanceOnVaros}} Vengeance on Varos]] surely count), episodes, but the batting average skewed by so many truly terrible stories... Whatís really weird about Bakerís terrible episodes is the fact that they all seem to suffer from the same problems. Thereís [[TheyJustDidntCare no attempt to learn from past mistakes or to rectify those problems]].

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->Timelash is on the short list of serials broadly agreed to be 'the worst ''Doctor Who'' stories ever.' Given how prone science-fiction fans are to bickering about absolutely everything, ->What was once a weekly mini-feature film-- and how impossible it is to find consensus, thatís [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible really saying something]]. More than that, it ranks often one with quite the suggestive power of a few Colin Baker stories among that list. I canít help documentary at that-- all of a sudden became television. Well-conceived, well-written, well-produced television, but wonder if part ''television'' nonetheless. Visionary genius producer Bob Goodwin- who referenced Caravaggio as his model for the look of the problem show-- was replaced with Bakerís tenure isnít a lack Michael Watkins, who didn't have much of classic episodes ([[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS22E6RevelationOfTheDaleks}} Revelation of a track record yet seemed bent on making ''The X-Files'' [[FollowTheLeader look more the Daleks]] and [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS22E2VengeanceOnVaros}} Vengeance other dramas on Varos]] surely count), but the batting average skewed by so many truly terrible stories... Whatís really weird about Bakerís terrible episodes is the fact television]] (if not more like television commercials), not something that they all seem to suffer from the same problems. Thereís [[TheyJustDidntCare no attempt to learn from past mistakes or to rectify those problems]].stood apart. -->--'''[[http://secretsunjr.blogspot.com/2015/08/x-files-lite-part-1-season-six.html Christopher Loring Knowles]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles''
23rd Jul '15 11:41:54 PM johnnyfog
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->Isnít this the season where Brannon Braga took a backseat so he could start planning ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]''? I never thought I would say this but [[WeWantOurJerkBack bring him back!]] Seasons five and six under his supervision might have had more bad episodes than you can shake a stick at but at least there were some good episodes tossed in just to make a change. Season seven to this point has literally been one underwritten nightmare after another and should give the audience a warning '[[SuckinessIsPainful Abandon hope all ye that enter hereÖ]]' -->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/voyager-season-four.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Inside Man" ->Okay, here's a prime example of what I'm talking about. This is a quote from a ''[=Herocomplex/LA Times=]'' interview with Tom Welling:\\\ ''"I think the dilemma and the challenge this year is waiting until the end of the show,"'' said Welling. ''"At this point you're like, 'Why doesn't he just put on the suit?' I mean, come on - he's doing the same stuff now, so why not? That's the challenge -- to make that last until the end."''\\\ Pardon?\\\ When the creative team is struggling to think of ways to cram the genie back into the bottle (where Genie=Super-Suit and Bottle=Time-Machine-We-Need-To-Build-To-Erase-[[ArcFatigue Plot-Thread-We-Had-No-Intention-Of-Following-Through-On]]) does anyone really think the result is going to be great? Story telling should be organic; if your characters and plot arcs take you to a place where the next logical step is to put on the suit, then you put on the suit. You don't just [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants fling monkey turds]] around and hope that no one notices that it makes no sense. -->--'''[[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=reviews/smallville10-ep01 Julian Finn]]''' on ''{{Series/Smallville}}'', "Lazarus"
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->Isnít this the season where Brannon Braga took a backseat so he could start planning ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]''? I never thought I would say this but [[WeWantOurJerkBack bring him back!]] Seasons five and six under his supervision might have had more bad episodes than you can shake a stick at but at least there were some good episodes tossed in just to make a change. Season seven to this point has literally been one underwritten nightmare after another and should give the audience a warning '[[SuckinessIsPainful '[[ForbiddenZone Abandon hope all ye that enter hereÖ]]' -->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/voyager-season-four.html Doc Oho]]''' Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Inside Man" ->Okay, here's a prime example of what I'm talking about. This is a quote from a ''[=Herocomplex/LA Times=]'' interview with Tom Welling:\\\ ''"I think the dilemma and the challenge this year is waiting until the end of the show,"'' said Welling. ''"At this point you're like, 'Why doesn't he just put on the suit?' I mean, come on - he's doing the same stuff now, so why not? That's the challenge -- to make that last until the end."''\\\ Pardon?\\\ When the creative team is struggling to think of ways to cram the genie back into the bottle (where Genie=Super-Suit and Bottle=Time-Machine-We-Need-To-Build-To-Erase-[[ArcFatigue Plot-Thread-We-Had-No-Intention-Of-Following-Through-On]]) does anyone really think the result is going to be great? Story telling should be organic; if your characters and plot arcs take you to a place where the next logical step is to put on the suit, then you put on the suit. You don't just [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants fling monkey turds]] around and hope that no one notices that it makes no sense. -->--'''[[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=reviews/smallville10-ep01 Julian Finn]]''' on ''{{Series/Smallville}}'', "Lazarus" Man"

But instead, the show threw away that endgame and, at least for the first three hours of this season, weíve seen Don Draper do the shit Don Draper always does. I spent an hour last week watching him argue with Megan and wondering to myself, ''ďWait, [[AesopAmnesia didnít they already have this fight?]] [[RelationshipRevolvingDoor Wasnít this marriage over already?]] [[EightDeadlyWords Why am I watching this shit again?]]Ē'' Thereís been a whole lot of again this season. Peggy feeling underappreciated, again. Don smoothly pulling off a shrewd boardroom maneuver, again. Pete being a cock, again. Betty being a shitty mom and feeling kinda bad about it, again. Megan crying, again.
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But instead, the show threw away that endgame and, at least for the first three hours of this season, weíve seen Don Draper do the shit Don Draper always does. I spent an hour last week watching him argue with Megan and wondering to myself, ''ďWait, [[AesopAmnesia didnít they already have this fight?]] [[RelationshipRevolvingDoor Wasnít this marriage over already?]] [[EightDeadlyWords Why am I watching this shit again?]]Ē'' Thereís been a whole lot of again this season. Peggy feeling underappreciated, again. Don smoothly pulling off a shrewd boardroom maneuver, again. Pete being a cock, again. Betty being a shitty mom and feeling kinda bad about it, again. Megan crying, again.
23rd Jul '15 11:39:34 PM johnnyfog
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->Promoters have rarely been able to bring themselves to replace their bread-and-butter before it's too late. They see him making extraordinary amounts of money for the company, and they cannot fathom tinkering with the formula in any way. Wrestling promoters are notoriously shortsighted...They don't have the long-term vision to see that unless things stay fresh, the decline in fortunes can be just as swift, and sometimes even faster, than the ascent.\\\ There is an old saying, popularized by Wrestling/BretHart in Paul Jay's excellent documentary ''Wrestling with Shadows'', that promoters ride a wrestler like a horse until he can't go any more; then they put a bullet in his head. Inevitably, they ride that horse until he's long past the point of drawing big money, and then, when things start to decline, they panic. The panic breeds [[RatingsStunt inept and hotshot booking]], the decline speeds up, and it finally gets to the point where the company is so cold that, in the eyes of the fans, it can do nothing right.
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->Promoters have rarely been able to bring themselves to replace their bread-and-butter before it's too late. They see him making extraordinary amounts of money for the company, and they cannot fathom tinkering with the formula in any way. Wrestling promoters are notoriously shortsighted...They don't have the long-term vision to see that unless things stay fresh, the decline in fortunes can be just as swift, and sometimes even faster, than the ascent.\\\ There is an old saying, popularized by Wrestling/BretHart in Paul Jay's excellent documentary ''Wrestling with Shadows'', that promoters ride a wrestler like a horse until he can't go any more; then they put a bullet in his head. Inevitably, they ride that horse until he's long past the point of drawing big money, and then, when things start to decline, they panic. The panic breeds [[RatingsStunt inept and hotshot booking]], the decline speeds up, and it finally gets to the point where the company is so cold that, in the eyes of the fans, it can do nothing right.
23rd Jul '15 8:21:59 PM johnnyfog
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->When the series is written or talked about now, so much time is devoted to "jump the shark" moments and the whole Fonzie phenomenon (they actually got Winkler to [[NowBuyTheMerchandise hold up a Mego doll version of himself]] this season...remarkable), that what gets lost are those beginning seasons, where ''Happy Days'' looked at nice-kid Richie Cunningham trying to grow up and make sense of his life...No [[StrangledByTheRedString Pinky Tuscadero]] or shark tanks or god help us [[ReplacementScrappy Ted McGinley]], or Richie with a bad comb-over and a mustache, or Fonzie with [[HowTheMightyHaveFallen a pot belly and a beard hiding his double chin.]] -->--'''[[http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/66103/happy-days-season-6/ Paul Mavis]]'''
20th May '15 4:03:13 PM LahmacunKebab
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->''What'' can Chuck do at this point? [[ShirtlessScene Take his shirt off?]] Add a lovably [[CousinOliver irritating adopted 8-year-old]] to the cast? Wake up to find [[Series/{{Dallas}} Sarah in his shower and the entire second season [[AllJustADream a dream?]]]] Or maybe Chuck should start wearing SunglassesAtNight and make semi-clever wisecracks about corpses he examines... [[Series/CSIMiami Or maybe not]].
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->''What'' can Chuck do at this point? [[ShirtlessScene Take his shirt off?]] Add a lovably [[CousinOliver irritating adopted 8-year-old]] to the cast? Wake up to find [[Series/{{Dallas}} Sarah in his shower shower]] and the entire second season [[AllJustADream a dream?]]]] dream?]] Or maybe Chuck should start wearing SunglassesAtNight and make semi-clever wisecracks about corpses he examines... [[Series/CSIMiami Or maybe not]].
20th May '15 4:02:26 PM LahmacunKebab
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->''What'' can Chuck do at this point? [[ShirtlessScene Take his shirt off?]] Add a lovably [[CousinOliver irritating adopted 8-year-old]] to the cast? Wake up to find [[Series/{{Dallas}} Sarah in his shower and the entire second season [[AllJustADream a dream?]] Or maybe Chuck should start]] wearing SunglassesAtNight and make semi-clever wisecracks about corpses he examines... [[Series/CSIMiami Or maybe not]].
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->''What'' can Chuck do at this point? [[ShirtlessScene Take his shirt off?]] Add a lovably [[CousinOliver irritating adopted 8-year-old]] to the cast? Wake up to find [[Series/{{Dallas}} Sarah in his shower and the entire second season [[AllJustADream a dream?]] dream?]]]] Or maybe Chuck should start]] start wearing SunglassesAtNight and make semi-clever wisecracks about corpses he examines... [[Series/CSIMiami Or maybe not]].
20th May '15 4:01:56 PM LahmacunKebab
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->''What'' can Chuck do at this point? [[ShirtlessScene Take his shirt off?]] Add a lovably [[CousinOliver irritating adopted 8-year-old]] to the cast? Wake up to find [[Series/{{Dallas}} Sarah in his shower]] and the entire second season [[AllJustADream a dream?]] Or maybe Chuck should start]] wearing SunglassesAtNight and make semi-clever wisecracks about corpses he examines... [[Series/CSIMiami Or maybe not]].
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->''What'' can Chuck do at this point? [[ShirtlessScene Take his shirt off?]] Add a lovably [[CousinOliver irritating adopted 8-year-old]] to the cast? Wake up to find [[Series/{{Dallas}} Sarah in his shower]] shower and the entire second season [[AllJustADream a dream?]] Or maybe Chuck should start]] wearing SunglassesAtNight and make semi-clever wisecracks about corpses he examines... [[Series/CSIMiami Or maybe not]].
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