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->''Too often, feminism is associated with a certain type of lady. In the movies, she’s usually the tomboy who likes to snarl at the girly-girls and thinks she’s better than everyone else because she doesn’t subscribe to society’s standards. These girls suffer from what I like to call Special Snowflake Syndrome. “I’m not the kind of girl who wears makeup and heels.” [[SarcasmMode Can I get a slow clap?]] This does not make you better than the “kind of girl” who does.''

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->''Too often, feminism is associated with a certain type of lady. In the movies, she’s she's usually the tomboy who likes to snarl at the girly-girls and thinks she’s she's better than everyone else because she doesn’t doesn't subscribe to society’s society's standards. These girls suffer from what I like to call Special Snowflake Syndrome. “I’m "I'm not the kind of girl who wears makeup and heels." [[SarcasmMode Can I get a slow clap?]] This does not make you better than the “kind "kind of girl” girl" who does.''



''Even more significantly, while it's true that she doesn't get to do much in the third act, she doesn't have to. She doesn't have to because unlike 90 percent of other Hollywood films, [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2 HTTYD]] is a universe with more than one woman in it. And as a result, it gets to have a variety of women who do a variety of different things. Valka doesn't have to be an all-powerful warrior-soldier, because Astrid and Ruffnut are out there dumping flaming sulfur on the enemy and generally proving that women can be badasses on the battlefield. Valka proves that women can be badasses as activists and scientists and even, yes, as moms, too.''

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''Even more significantly, while it's true that she doesn't get to do much in the third act, she doesn't have to. She doesn't have to because unlike 90 percent of other Hollywood films, [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2 [[Franchise/HowToTrainYourDragon HTTYD]] is a universe with more than one woman in it. And as a result, it gets to have a variety of women who do a variety of different things. Valka doesn't have to be an all-powerful warrior-soldier, because Astrid and Ruffnut are out there dumping flaming sulfur on the enemy and generally proving that women can be badasses on the battlefield. Valka proves that women can be badasses as activists and scientists and even, yes, as moms, too.''



->'''[[Wrestling/{{Paige}} Britani Knight]]:''' Mission Statement of the Anti-Diva Army: We stand firm against the trivialization and degradation of women’s wrestling. However, we further recognize that the sport has often trivialized itself, by elevating the untalented and the incompetent based solely on looks and charisma. As such, we seek to not only advocate for women’s wrestling to the outside world, but to purify it from within.
->'''Serena Deeb:''' My name…is Serena Deeb. I stand here today [[VillainTeamUp alongside]] Britani and [[Wrestling/IvelisseVelez Sofia]] because I believe in their mission. We have eliminated a talentless model by putting [[Wrestling/BellaTwins Nikki Bella]] on the injured list. We have taken out a woman content to rest on her laurels and charisma in destroying Wrestling/{{Melina}} last week. And tonight…we will be making a fresh new statement.

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->'''[[Wrestling/{{Paige}} Britani Knight]]:''' Mission Statement of the Anti-Diva Army: We stand firm against the trivialization and degradation of women’s women's wrestling. However, we further recognize that the sport has often trivialized itself, by elevating the untalented and the incompetent based solely on looks and charisma. As such, we seek to not only advocate for women’s women's wrestling to the outside world, but to purify it from within.
->'''Serena Deeb:''' My name…is name...is Serena Deeb. I stand here today [[VillainTeamUp alongside]] Britani and [[Wrestling/IvelisseVelez Sofia]] because I believe in their mission. We have eliminated a talentless model by putting [[Wrestling/BellaTwins Nikki Bella]] on the injured list. We have taken out a woman content to rest on her laurels and charisma in destroying Wrestling/{{Melina}} last week. And tonight…we tonight...we will be making a fresh new statement.



->''...The fashion changes that happened in the early 90s in the U.S., where women’s business clothes became a lot more feminine in cut and colors, have definitely not happened in Japan – it’s a choice between serious and severe, or cute and sexy, and not much in-between. In my mind, the women’s business fashion evolution in the U.S. was a sign of women’s progress in the workplace, where women had gained enough ground that they didn’t feel they had to try to look like men anymore in order to be taken seriously.''

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->''...The fashion changes that happened in the early 90s in the U.S., where women’s women's business clothes became a lot more feminine in cut and colors, have definitely not happened in Japan – it’s it's a choice between serious and severe, or cute and sexy, and not much in-between. In my mind, the women’s women's business fashion evolution in the U.S. was a sign of women’s women's progress in the workplace, where women had gained enough ground that they didn’t didn't feel they had to try to look like men anymore in order to be taken seriously.''



->''Avoid overly “empowered” female characters. Empowerment doesn’t mean [[StrawFeminist she’s terrible to men just for being men]] — it just means she’s not stepped on for being a woman.''

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->''Avoid overly “empowered” "empowered" female characters. Empowerment doesn’t doesn't mean [[StrawFeminist she’s she's terrible to men just for being men]] — it just means she’s not stepped on for being a woman.''



->Is it the ‘strong independent woman’ thing to do? No, but that is not who Sakura is. Yes, like Rin she is a character of great inner strength and will, probably more so as she has endured so much trauma and horror, but as you will read in a later character dive, not everyone can pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Not everyone can ‘handle it’. People need to be saved, and that doesn’t stop them from being good and capable people.

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->Is it the ‘strong 'strong independent woman’ woman' thing to do? No, but that is not who Sakura is. Yes, like Rin she is a character of great inner strength and will, probably more so as she has endured so much trauma and horror, but as you will read in a later character dive, not everyone can pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Not everyone can ‘handle it’.'handle it'. People need to be saved, and that doesn’t stop them from being good and capable people.



->''"I want every version of a woman and a man to be possible. I want women and men to be able to be full-time parents or full-time working people or any combination of the two. I want both to be able to do whatever they want sexually without being called names. I want them to be allowed to be weak and strong and happy and sad -- human, basically. The fallacy in Hollywood is that if you’re making a 'feminist' story, the woman kicks ass and wins. That’s not feminist, that’s macho. A movie about a weak, vulnerable woman can be feminist if it shows a real person that we can empathize with."''

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->''"I want every version of a woman and a man to be possible. I want women and men to be able to be full-time parents or full-time working people or any combination of the two. I want both to be able to do whatever they want sexually without being called names. I want them to be allowed to be weak and strong and happy and sad -- human, basically. The fallacy in Hollywood is that if you’re you're making a 'feminist' story, the woman kicks ass and wins. That’s That's not feminist, that’s that's macho. A movie about a weak, vulnerable woman can be feminist if it shows a real person that we can empathize with."''
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->''"I want every version of a woman and a man to be possible. I want women and men to be able to be full-time parents or full-time working people or any combination of the two. I want both to be able to do whatever they want sexually without being called names. I want them to be allowed to be weak and strong and happy and sad -- human, basically. The fallacy in Hollywood is that if you’re making a 'feminist' story, the woman kicks ass and wins. That’s not feminist, that’s macho. A movie about a weak, vulnerable woman can be feminist if it shows a real person that we can empathize with."''
-->-- '''Creator/NataliePortman'''
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-> Whether something is considered "feminist" or not really depends on how it's read. Take ''{{Film/Terminator2|JudgmentDay}}'' for example, on the one hand you have a strong willed badass female protagonist who uses guns and does pull-ups and has dimensions and all sorts of fun stuff. On the other hand, her primary motivation is her son, and he is the second coming, not her. Some people don't like that. ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' also has this girl who's smart, dimensional, learning stuff, being a warrior and out duding the dudes. But on the other hand, again, her whole motivation is her father. Some people don't like that. Also she chooses marriage over being on the emperor's council... whatever, it's implied.

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-> Whether something is considered "feminist" or not really depends on how it's read. Take ''{{Film/Terminator2|JudgmentDay}}'' ''{{Film/Terminator 2|JudgmentDay}}'' for example, on the one hand you have a strong willed badass female protagonist who uses guns and does pull-ups and has dimensions and all sorts of fun stuff. On the other hand, her primary motivation is her son, and he is the second coming, not her. Some people don't like that. ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' also has this girl who's smart, dimensional, learning stuff, being a warrior and out duding the dudes. But on the other hand, again, her whole motivation is her father. Some people don't like that. Also she chooses marriage over being on the emperor's council... whatever, it's implied.
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'''D. B.''' ''[blows whistle]'' [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad WHAT YOU LIKE IS UNIMPORTANT!]] You're a ''role model'' now.

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'''D. B.''' ''[blows whistle]'' [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad [[PoliticalOvercorrectness WHAT YOU LIKE IS UNIMPORTANT!]] You're a ''role model'' now.
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->Is it the ‘strong independent woman’ thing to do? No, but that is not who Sakura is. Yes, like Rin she is a character of great inner strength and will, probably more so as she has endured so much trauma and horror, but as you will read in a later character dive, not everyone can pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Not everyone can ‘handle it’. People need to be saved, and that doesn’t stop them from being good and capable people.
-->-- '''[[https://shallowdivesinanime.wordpress.com/2021/02/11/fate-stay-nights-shirou-emiya-and-sakura-matou-love-bound-by-duty-and-protection/ Dewbond]]''', on ''Anime/FateStayNightHeavensFeel''
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->''"I don't care that [[Film/SpaceJam Lola Bunny]] is dressed less sexy in Space Jam 2 but I am unbelievably exhausted by the idea that the way you communicate that a female character is to be taken seriously is by [[TamerAndChaster removing her boobs]]"''
-->-- '''[=@LuxAltraum=]''', Website/{{Twitter}}
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->''"I don't care that [[Film/SpaceJam Lola Bunny]] is dressed less sexy in Space Jam 2 but I am unbelievably exhausted by the idea that the way you communicate that a female character is to be taken seriously is by [[TamerAndChaster removing her boobs]]"''
-->-- '''[=@LuxAltraum=]''', Website/{{Twitter}}
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-->-- [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010815073607/http://www.stormloader.com/users/ilovebshonen/Yo/me.html The owner of a disappeared Anti-Relena site.]] Who also believed that [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010815075144/www.stormloader.com/users/ilovebshonen/fanfic/index.html the only true love]] [[HetIsEw was "yaoi love"]]

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-->-- [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010815073607/http://www.stormloader.com/users/ilovebshonen/Yo/me.html The owner of a disappeared Anti-Relena site.]] Who also believed that [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010815075144/www.stormloader.com/users/ilovebshonen/fanfic/index.html the only true love]] [[HetIsEw was "yaoi love"]]
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->''It's the idea that a "good" or "realistic" female character has to be, in short, a man with breasts. [[WalkingArmory She walks around armed to the teeth]], [[DoesNotLikeMen hates men]] and [[StrawFeminist the Patriarchy with a burning passion]] that [[BerserkButton easily turns violent]], and generally suffers from a worse case of TestosteronePoisoning than the male members of the group. And god forbid she should be emotional, or get into romantic relationships ([[HetIsEw unless they're with other women!]]) or have any of the other concerns that real women deal with on a daily basis. (...) It's a pervasive disease in [=RPGs=], and women are as likely to succumb to it as men dabbling in transgender roleplaying - if not more so!''

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->''It's the idea that a "good" or "realistic" female character has to be, in short, a man with breasts. [[WalkingArmory She walks around armed to the teeth]], [[DoesNotLikeMen hates men]] and [[StrawFeminist the Patriarchy with a burning passion]] that [[BerserkButton easily turns violent]], and generally suffers from a worse case of TestosteronePoisoning than the male members of the group. And god forbid she should be emotional, or get into romantic relationships ([[HetIsEw unless (unless they're with other women!]]) women!) or have any of the other concerns that real women deal with on a daily basis. (...) It's a pervasive disease in [=RPGs=], and women are as likely to succumb to it as men dabbling in transgender roleplaying - if not more so!''
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-->-- A blogger defending ''LegallyBlonde'' [[http://feministiclady.tumblr.com/post/27909625015/why-legally-blonde-is-the-ultimate-feminist-movie as a feminist movie]]

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-->-- A blogger defending ''LegallyBlonde'' ''Film/LegallyBlonde'' [[http://feministiclady.tumblr.com/post/27909625015/why-legally-blonde-is-the-ultimate-feminist-movie as a feminist movie]]
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->'''Bowser:''' Y'know, Peach, it's girls like you who set women's rights movements back about 400 years. You wear a dress and heels, you bitch slap opponents, you have a vegetable garden, and one of your most powerful moves involves your ''ass!''\\

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->'''Bowser:''' Y'know, Peach, it's girls like you who set women's rights movements back about 400 years. You wear a dress and heels, you bitch slap opponents, you have a vegetable garden, and one of your most powerful moves involves your ''ass!''\\''{{ass|KicksYou}}!''\\
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->'''Bowser:''' Y'know, Peach, it's girls like you who set women's rights movements back about 400 years. You wear a dress and heels, you bitch slap opponents, you have a vegetable garden, and one of your most powerful moves involves your ''ass!''\\
''[Peach rages and [[GirlyBruiser clobbers Bowser with a frying pan]]]''\\
'''Bowser:''' ''Where did you get a frying pan?!''\\
'''Peach:''' Um... in my kitchen?
-->-- ''Brawl Taunts''
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'''D. B.''' ''[blows whistle]'' [[PloiticalCorrectnessGoneMad WHAT YOU LIKE IS UNIMPORTANT!]] You're a ''role model'' now.

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'''D. B.''' ''[blows whistle]'' [[PloiticalCorrectnessGoneMad [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad WHAT YOU LIKE IS UNIMPORTANT!]] You're a ''role model'' now.
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'''D. B.''' ''[blows whistle]'' WHAT YOU LIKE IS UNIMPORTANT! You're a ''[[RealWomenDontWearDresses role model]]'' now.

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'''D. B.''' ''[blows whistle]'' [[PloiticalCorrectnessGoneMad WHAT YOU LIKE IS UNIMPORTANT! UNIMPORTANT!]] You're a ''[[RealWomenDontWearDresses role model]]'' ''role model'' now.

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