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** Carol is a lesbian who believes all trans women are also lesbian just like her, so she falls for Alice, [[IncompatibleOrientation despite Alice is straight]].
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** Carol is a lesbian who believes all trans women are also lesbian just like her, so she falls for Alice, [[IncompatibleOrientation despite Alice is being straight]].
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* '''Inverted''': Carol believes that no one can be a cisgender person who isn't attracted to their own gender. As otherwise they would always find themselves as [[ManIFeelLikeAWoman their preferred gender more attractive]]. A cisgender heterosexual person thus must either be in denial about their bi or pansexuality, gender identity, or both.
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* '''Inverted''': Carol believes that no one can be a cisgender person who isn't attracted to their own gender. As gender; as otherwise they would always find themselves as [[ManIFeelLikeAWoman their preferred gender more attractive]]. A cisgender heterosexual person thus must either be in denial about their bi or pansexuality, gender identity, or both.
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** Alice explains to Carol that she feels her and Bob's relationship is different than the relationship between a cisgender man and woman therefore she at least feels she's not straight.
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** Alice explains to Carol that she feels her and Bob's relationship is different than the relationship between a cisgender man and woman therefore woman; therefore, she at least feels she's not straight.
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** Bob is a completely gay man as to be [[HeManWomanHater misogynistic toward women]] while Alice is a trans woman who looks and sounds completely female-passing, [[IfItsYouItsOkay Bob is in love with Alice.]]
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** Bob is a completely gay man as to be [[HeManWomanHater misogynistic toward women]] while Alice is a trans woman who looks and sounds completely female-passing, female-passing. [[IfItsYouItsOkay Bob is in love with Alice.]]
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* '''Downplayed''': Carol is a lesbian who believes all trans women are also lesbian just like her, so she falls for Alice, [[IncompatibleOrientation despite Alice is straight]].
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Carol is a lesbian who believes all trans women are also lesbian just like her, so she falls for Alice, [[IncompatibleOrientation despite Alice isstraight]].straight]].
** Carol thinks trans women aren't gay men as long as they undergo gender confirmation surgeries.
** Carol is a lesbian who believes all trans women are also lesbian just like her, so she falls for Alice, [[IncompatibleOrientation despite Alice is
** Carol thinks trans women aren't gay men as long as they undergo gender confirmation surgeries.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is introduced as Bob's much gayer boyfriend and is played by a woman.
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Alice is introduced as Bob's much gayer boyfriend and is played by a woman.
** Bob is a completely gay man as to be [[HeManWomanHater misogynistic toward women]] while Alice is a trans woman who looks and sounds completely female-passing, [[IfItsYouItsOkay Bob is in love with Alice.]]
* '''Downplayed''':???Carol is a lesbian who believes all trans women are also lesbian just like her, so she falls for Alice, [[IncompatibleOrientation despite Alice is straight]].
** Alice is introduced as Bob's much gayer boyfriend and is played by a woman.
** Bob is a completely gay man as to be [[HeManWomanHater misogynistic toward women]] while Alice is a trans woman who looks and sounds completely female-passing, [[IfItsYouItsOkay Bob is in love with Alice.]]
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** Carol is transphobic, so she think transgender people don't really exist and they are just [[InternalizedCategorism internalized homophobic and sexist toward their birth sex]].
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* '''Conversed''': "Why do many writers look to believe that Transgender people are 'leveled up' gays?". "Perhaps because many writers are a [[ValuesDisonance little old and this topic is relatively new]] and confusing for them".
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* '''Conversed''': "Why do many writers look to believe that Transgender people are 'leveled up' gays?". "Perhaps because many writers are a [[ValuesDisonance [[ValuesDissonance little old and this topic is relatively new]] and confusing for them".
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* '''Lampshaded''': "She's a transgender woman"."He's gay, dude. There's no any difference".
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* '''Lampshaded''': "She's a transgender woman". "He's gay, dude. There's no any difference".
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"I'm not gay, I'm a woman! Can't you realize the difference?".
* '''Conversed''':???"Why do many writers look to believe that Transgender people are 'leveled up' gays?". "Perhaps because many writers are a [[ValuesDisonance little old and this topic is relatively new]] and confusing for them".
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The writer wants to include Transgender people in the work but misunderstands the concept of "Transgender" and thinks that "a Transgender person is just a gay person that 'leveled up'" is the law, and writes Alice like this.
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* '''Defied''': Having a trans character who is LGBTQ+.
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* '''Defied''': Having a trans character who is LGBTQ+. attracted to the same gender.
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Bi The Way is a disambiguation page, and therefore not a trope. Do not pothole or wick to Bi The Way.
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* '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice comes out as trans and ''expects'' Bob to break up with her, only for him to realize [[BiTheWay he's actually]] [[IfItsYouItsOkay okay with it]].
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* '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice comes out as trans and ''expects'' Bob to break up with her, only for him to realize [[BiTheWay he's actually]] actually [[IfItsYouItsOkay okay with it]].
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* '''Averted''': Alice initially presents as male when she starts dating Bob, but when she comes out, it leads to a painful breakup as he is 100% gay and not sexually attracted to her presenting as a woman. However, they might come together as AmicableExes in the future (or break up amicably in the first place).
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* '''Averted''': Alice initially presents presented as male when she starts started dating Bob, but when she comes out, it leads to a painful breakup as he breaks up with her because he is 100% gay and not sexually attracted to her presenting as a woman. However, they might come together as AmicableExes in the future (or break up amicably in the first place).woman.
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* '''Averted''': Alice initially presents as male when she starts dating Bob, but when she comes out, it leads to a painful breakup as he is 100% gay and not sexually attracted to her presenting as a woman. However, they might come together as AmicableExes in the future (or break up amicably in the first place).
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* '''Averted''': ???Alice comes out as trans and ''expects'' Bob to break up with her, only for him to realize [[BiTheWay he's actually]] [[IfItsYouItsOkay okay with it]].
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* '''Inverted''': Carol believes that no one can be a cisgender person as otherwise they would always find themselves as [[ManIFeelLikeAWoman their preferred gender more attractive]]. A cisgender heterosexual person thus must either be in denial about their bi or pansexuality, gender identity, or both.
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* '''Inverted''': Carol believes that no one can be a cisgender person as who isn't attracted to their own gender. As otherwise they would always find themselves as [[ManIFeelLikeAWoman their preferred gender more attractive]]. A cisgender heterosexual person thus must either be in denial about their bi or pansexuality, gender identity, or both.
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'''Basic Trope''': The confusion of being {{Transgender}} with homosexuality.
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'''Basic Trope''': The confusion of being {{Transgender}} UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} with homosexuality.
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* '''Justified''': Alice lived as a gay man for a while until realizing her true gender.
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* '''Inverted''': Carol believes that it is impossible for anyone to be a cisgender person as otherwise they would always find themselves as [[ManIFeelLikeAWoman their preferred gender more attractive]]. A cisgender heterosexual person thus must either be in denial about their bi or pansexuality, gender identity, or both.
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** Carol is confused about sexuality in transgender people (and trans people in general).
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** Alice explains to Carol that she feels her and Bob's relationship is different than the relationship between a cisgender man and woman therefor she at least feels she's not straight.
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** Alice explains to Carol that she feels her and Bob's relationship is different than the relationship between a cisgender man and woman therefor therefore she at least feels she's not straight.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alice is in a relationship with Bob but Bob's friends think he's gay because he's dating a trans woman.
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* '''Defied''': ???'''Defied''': Having a trans character who is LGBTQ+.
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* '''Parodied''':???"The mistaken belief that a Transgender person is just a gay person that 'leveled up'" in a ''literal'' sense. The characters live in an RPGMechanicsVerse where the level-up reward for the Gay class is an EasySexChange (and it's the ''only'' way to transition), so cis gay people have to go on a LowLevelRun, and trans people are put through ForcedLevelGrinding as they pretend they're gay.
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** Alice explains to Carol that she feels her and Bob's relationship is different than the relationship between a cisgender man and woman therefor she at least feels she's not straight.
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** Alice explains to Carol that she feels her and Bob's relationship is different than the relationship between a cisgender man and woman therefor she at least feels she's not straight.
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* '''Inverted''': Carol believes that it is impossible for anyone to be a cisgender person as otherwise they would always find themselves as [[ManIFeelLikeAWoman their preferred gender more attractive]]. A cisgender heterosexual person thus must either be in denial about their bi or pan sexuality, gender identity, or both.
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* '''Inverted''': Carol believes that it is impossible for anyone to be a cisgender person as otherwise they would always find themselves as [[ManIFeelLikeAWoman their preferred gender more attractive]]. A cisgender heterosexual person thus must either be in denial about their bi or pan sexuality, pansexuality, gender identity, or both.
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** Alice is a lesbian in love with [[GenderBlenderName Bobby]]. Carol believes that Alice is a transgender man because society expects only men to love women.
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** Alice is a lesbian in love with [[GenderBlenderName Bobby]]. Carol who believes that Alice is she must be a transgender man because society expects only men to love women.another woman.
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* '''Inverted''': Carol believes that it is impossible for anyone to be a cisgender as otherwise they would always find themselves as [[ManIFeelLikeAWoman their preferred gender more attractive]]. A cisgender heterosexual thus must either be in denial about their bi or pan sexuality, gender identity, or both.
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* '''Inverted''': Carol believes that it is impossible for anyone to be a cisgender person as otherwise they would always find themselves as [[ManIFeelLikeAWoman their preferred gender more attractive]]. A cisgender heterosexual person thus must either be in denial about their bi or pan sexuality, gender identity, or both.
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* '''Straight''': Alice is a transgender woman in a relationship with the cisgender man Bob. Carol believes that they're "gay" just because they have men's bodies.
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** Alice is a transgender woman in a relationship with the cisgender man Bob. Carol believes that they're"gay" just gay men because they have men's bodies.bodies.
** Alice is a lesbian in love with [[GenderBlenderName Bobby]]. Carol believes that Alice is a transgender man because society expects only men to love women.
** Alice is a transgender woman in a relationship with the cisgender man Bob. Carol believes that they're
** Alice is a lesbian in love with [[GenderBlenderName Bobby]]. Carol believes that Alice is a transgender man because society expects only men to love women.
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* '''Inverted''': ???Carol believes that it is impossible for anyone to be a cisgender as otherwise they would always find themselves as [[ManIFeelLikeAWoman their preferred gender more attractive]]. A cisgender heterosexual thus must either be in denial about their bi or pan sexuality, gender identity, or both.
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* '''Straight''': Alice is a transgender woman in love a relationship with the cisgender man Bob. Carol believes that they're "gay" just because they have men's bodies.
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* '''Straight''': Alice is a transgender woman in love with the cisgender man Bob. Carol believes that Alice is "gay" just because she was born in a man's body.
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* '''Straight''': Alice is a transgender woman in love with the cisgender man Bob. Carol believes that Alice is they're "gay" just because she was born in a man's body.they have men's bodies.
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* '''Straight''': Alice is a transgender woman in love with the cisgender woman Carol. Bob believes that Alice is "gay" just because she was born in a man's body.
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* '''Straight''': Alice is a transgender woman in love with the cisgender woman Carol. Bob man Bob. Carol believes that Alice is "gay" just because she was born in a man's body.
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'''Basic Trope''': The confusion of being {{Transgender}} with homosexuality.
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* '''Straight''': Alice is a transgender woman in love with the cisgender woman Carol. Bob believes that Alice is "gay" just because she was born in a man's body.
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