History PlayingWith / HumansAreTheRealMonsters

13th Mar '18 12:42:02 AM Nasrudith
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** Humans are seen being highly violent raiders who attack from unprovoked from stealth. This isn't out of malice but from circumstance. The peaceful humans were wiped out through a combination of open attacks and betrayals from those claiming to help them. [[ProperlyParanoid Now they don't trust anyone]] and [[IDidWhatIHadToDo kill to ensure they will survive.]] This isn't a mere FreudianExcuse - once they receive a DoomsdayDevice they don't use it for revenge but to instead forge a peace [[IfIWantedYouDead that doesn't depend on trust.]]


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** Humans are considered a moral WildCard and dangerously unpredictable. When they seem good they can get [[KnightTemplar caught up and go too far]]. When they seem evil they often [[TheAtoner drop everything and make amends]] after they have conquered half the galaxy. Sometimes it is generational, other times it happens when they age. Most aliens suspect that [[HumanityIsInsane their brains still have some evolutionary glitches.]]
24th Feb '18 12:30:47 AM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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** The writer considers an alien/other race being more evil than humanity to be an example of UnfortunateImplications, so he decides to subvert it by having man act morally depraved.
3rd Feb '18 7:31:55 PM MasterN
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** The FantasticRacism toward humans [[AlwaysChaoticEvil was entirely]] [[TheExtremistWasRight justified]], and all humans are doing is [[NotHelpingYourCase proving the aliensí point.]]
28th Nov '17 12:04:06 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* '''Discussed''': "Man, we're such assholes, aren't we?"
* '''Conversed''': "Unbelievable! How dare those humans act so rude to us!"

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* '''Discussed''': "Man, we're such assholes, aren't we?"
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"Unbelievable! How dare those humans act so rude to us!"us!"
* '''Conversed''': "Man, we're such assholes in this show, aren't we?"



** [[{{Hypocrite}} The reason the aliens view humanity as evil beings is because that they are just as bad the humans themselves.]] They see them as a scapegoat for their own violent actions and behavior.
** Alternately, humanity just has really bad public relations with the rest of the universe, due to their liaison being a GeneralRipper or a {{Jerkass}}.
** The reasons humans are scum is because they've been ''[[FantasticRacism treated]]'' like scum for their entire starfaring existence-at some point, we decided as a species, that if we weren't going to have respect as allies and trusted friends, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then we would have it as conquerors and manipulators.]]

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** [[{{Hypocrite}} [[MoralMyopia The reason the aliens view humanity as evil beings is because that they are just as bad the humans themselves.]] They see them as a scapegoat for their own violent actions and behavior.
** Alternately, humanity Humanity just has really bad public relations with the rest of the universe, due to their liaison being a GeneralRipper or a {{Jerkass}}.
** The reasons humans are scum is because they've been ''[[FantasticRacism treated]]'' like scum for their entire starfaring existence-at some point, we decided as a species, that if we they weren't going to have respect as allies and trusted friends, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then we they would have it as conquerors and manipulators.]]



** Alternately, this public relations representative has a lot more influence than the aliens realized, and though not all of humanity are {{Jerkass}}es, humanity still rises up under their corrupt leader's flag during an ensuing species war.

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** Alternately, this This public relations representative has a lot more influence than the aliens realized, and though not all of humanity are {{Jerkass}}es, humanity still rises up under their corrupt leader's flag during an ensuing species war.
26th Nov '17 8:45:31 PM MasterN
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* '''Implied''': Itís {{Xenofiction}} so no humans are ever shown, but some characters bring up a race of strange bipedal creatures who have been enslaving other races across the universe.



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26th Nov '17 8:42:59 PM MasterN
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* '''Enforced''': "Hey, those fucking green bastards can't talk to us like that!"

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* '''Enforced''': "Hey, those fucking green bastards can't talk to us like that!"The author is [[MisanthropeSupreme misanthropic.]]



** The aliens, realizing their hypocrisy, right their ways. However, the humans begin a vicious cycle by using the aliens as a scapegoat for violence in return.

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** The aliens, realizing their hypocrisy, right their ways. [[HereWeGoAgain However, the humans begin a vicious cycle by using the aliens as a scapegoat for violence in return.]]



* '''Played For Laughs''': The human ambassador is a pompous asshole who whizzes on the feet of the alien king, kisses the alien queen, kicks their pet, and gives the chancellor a wedgie.

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* '''Played For Laughs''': The human ambassador is [[AssInAmbassador a pompous asshole who whizzes on the feet of the alien king, kisses the alien queen, kicks their pet, and gives the chancellor a wedgie.]]
26th Nov '17 8:40:15 PM MasterN
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* '''Subverted''': Humans are gruff and harsh, and their cities are a grim sight, but in the end it turns out to be that their moral standards are actually higher than those of the alien species, who live in a CrapsaccharineWorld.

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Humans are gruff and harsh, and their cities are a grim sight, but in the end it turns out to be that their moral standards are actually higher than those of the alien species, who live in a CrapsaccharineWorld.



* '''Double Subverted''': ...But then it turns out that any redeeming qualities that humanity seemed to have don't really exist, and humans are really as bad as they seemed to be at the beginning of the story.

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* '''Double Subverted''': ...Subverted''':
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But then it turns out that any redeeming qualities that humanity seemed to have don't really exist, and humans are really as bad as they seemed to be at the beginning of the story.story.
** But then the humans enslave every other race out there, [[EnemyMine uniting them]] against the species.
26th Nov '17 8:37:42 PM MasterN
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** Humans are AlwaysChaoticEvil and {{Complete Monster}}s, down to the very last member of their race. All they do every waking hour is betray, lie, steal, torture and murder each other. And over the most [[EvilIsPetty trivial]] [[DisproportionateRetribution of]] [[SillyReasonForWar reasons]] too. In fact, scratch that, for ''[[ForTheEvulz no reason whatsoever]]''. They constantly [[MoralEventHorizon cross the line]], and either [[CardCarryingVillain consistently insist on being called evil]] or [[TautlogicalTemplar insist that they are doing the right thing.]]

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** Humans are AlwaysChaoticEvil and {{Complete Monster}}s, down to the very last member of their race. All they do every waking hour is betray, lie, steal, torture and murder each other. And over the most [[EvilIsPetty trivial]] [[DisproportionateRetribution of]] [[SillyReasonForWar reasons]] too. In fact, scratch that, for ''[[ForTheEvulz no reason whatsoever]]''. They constantly [[MoralEventHorizon cross the line]], and either [[CardCarryingVillain consistently insist on being called evil]] or [[TautlogicalTemplar [[KnightTemplar insist that they are doing the right thing.]]
26th Nov '17 8:37:22 PM MasterN
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** Humans are AlwaysChaoticEvil and {{Complete Monster}}s, down to the very last member of their race. All they do every waking hour is betray, lie, steal, torture and murder each other. And over the most [[EvilIsPetty trivial]] [[DisproportionateRetribution of]] [[SillyReasonForWar reasons]] too. In fact, scratch that, for ''[[ForTheEvulz no reason whatsoever]]''. They constantly [[MoralEventHorizon cross the line]], and [[CardCarryingVillain consistently insist of being called evil]].
** ''All sentient life'' is fundamentally bad.

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** Humans are AlwaysChaoticEvil and {{Complete Monster}}s, down to the very last member of their race. All they do every waking hour is betray, lie, steal, torture and murder each other. And over the most [[EvilIsPetty trivial]] [[DisproportionateRetribution of]] [[SillyReasonForWar reasons]] too. In fact, scratch that, for ''[[ForTheEvulz no reason whatsoever]]''. They constantly [[MoralEventHorizon cross the line]], and either [[CardCarryingVillain consistently insist of on being called evil]].
** ''All sentient life'' is fundamentally bad.
evil]] or [[TautlogicalTemplar insist that they are doing the right thing.]]
1st Oct '17 3:30:29 AM Nasrudith
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** Humans aren't any more evil than the others. However [[HumansAreSpecial some quality]] about them makes them more effective than the others.
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