History PlayingWith / GoodOldFisticuffs

9th Jun '18 10:13:12 AM KoolKoopaGirl
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** While Rocky's "style" may work with martial artists, it works far less well when he meets Mia, who carries a gun. [[SingleStrokeBattle Boom]].
21st May '18 2:43:39 PM marcoasalazarm
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** And yet, Rocky survived everything the streets tossed at him fair and square, and leant what the streets wanted to teach him (and TheSpartanWay is the only way the streets teach someone anything), and as a result Rocky can still beat the stuffing out of Miyagi's students, [[OneManArmy a hundred at a time]], and shrug off the Miyagi Style's alleged DangerousForbiddenTechnique [[ImplacableMan even if gets applied to him by that hundred students at the very same time]].

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** And yet, Rocky survived everything the streets tossed at him fair and square, and leant what the streets wanted to teach him (and TheSpartanWay is the only way the streets teach someone anything), and as a result Rocky can still beat the stuffing out of Miyagi's students, [[OneManArmy a hundred at a time]], and shrug off the Miyagi Style's alleged DangerousForbiddenTechnique [[ImplacableMan even if gets applied to him by that those hundred students at the very same time]].time]]. And because one of his now-departed friends is one of those punks... well... better for Miyagi's students [[BerserkButton not to needle him with that, don't you think?]]
21st May '18 2:42:02 PM marcoasalazarm
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** Rocky is an uber-brutal bully that has fame of being an ImplacableMan. Miyagi is a KidSamurai BullyHunter that tries to show him that he's not welcome. Unfortunately, Rocky can deliver a hell of a lot more damage that he can take and the result is Miyagi having to run for his life.

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** Rocky is an uber-brutal bully that has fame of being an ImplacableMan. Miyagi is a KidSamurai BullyHunter that tries to show him that he's not welcome. Unfortunately, Rocky can deliver a hell of a lot more damage that he can take and the result is Miyagi having to run for his life. When the inevitable rematch ensues, Miyagi is either going to have to use a tactic that will sully his honor or one of his friends is gonna have to do that for him...
21st May '18 2:39:58 PM marcoasalazarm
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** Rocky can still beat the stuffing out of Miyagi's students, [[OneManArmy a hundred at a time]], and can shrug off the Miyagi Style's alleged DangerousForbiddenTechnique [[ImplacableMan even if gets applied to him by that hundred students at the very same time]]. And he got that from surviving on the streets fair and square, which taught him the only way the street teaches you anything, which is TheSpartanWay.

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** And yet, Rocky survived everything the streets tossed at him fair and square, and leant what the streets wanted to teach him (and TheSpartanWay is the only way the streets teach someone anything), and as a result Rocky can still beat the stuffing out of Miyagi's students, [[OneManArmy a hundred at a time]], and can shrug off the Miyagi Style's alleged DangerousForbiddenTechnique [[ImplacableMan even if gets applied to him by that hundred students at the very same time]]. And he got that from surviving on the streets fair and square, which taught him the only way the street teaches you anything, which is TheSpartanWay.time]].
21st May '18 2:34:29 PM marcoasalazarm
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** Rocky can still beat the stuffing out of Miyagi's students, [[OneManArmy a hundred at a time]], and can shrug off the Miyagi Style's alleged DangerousForbiddenTechnique [[ImplacableMan even if gets applied to him by that hundred students at the very same time]]. And he got that from surviving on the streets fair and square.

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** Rocky can still beat the stuffing out of Miyagi's students, [[OneManArmy a hundred at a time]], and can shrug off the Miyagi Style's alleged DangerousForbiddenTechnique [[ImplacableMan even if gets applied to him by that hundred students at the very same time]]. And he got that from surviving on the streets fair and square.square, which taught him the only way the street teaches you anything, which is TheSpartanWay.
21st May '18 2:29:01 PM marcoasalazarm
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* '''Deconstructed''': Rocky's ability to beat any trained martial artist leads to most schools and traditions frantically studying his "style" and methods to try and stop him and his ilk from making them irrelevant. Soon Rocky is faced with waves of formally trained martial artists who, thanks to their dedication and organization, have ''literally'' deconstructed his style and take him apart.
** For every Rocky for successfully masters the art of artless brawling, there are hundreds of punks who were beaten, maimed, or even killed without any idea on what they're doing. Meanwhile, Miyagi's dojo can train anyone to a high level of skill with minimal injuries.
* '''Reconstructed''': The act of merely ingraining combat responses without also incorporating creativity and intuition is what causes formally trained martial artists to be outperformed by Rocky. Rocky can beat any preformulated strategy or technique because he's too adaptable and unpredictable to outfox.
** Rocky can still beat the stuffing out of Miyagi's students.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Rocky's ability to beat any trained martial artist leads to most schools and traditions frantically studying his "style" and methods to try and stop him and his ilk from making them irrelevant. Soon Rocky is faced with waves of formally trained martial artists who, thanks to their dedication and organization, have ''literally'' deconstructed his style and take him apart.
** For every Rocky for that successfully masters the art of artless brawling, there are hundreds of punks who were beaten, maimed, or even killed without any idea on what they're doing. Meanwhile, Miyagi's dojo can train anyone to a high level of skill with minimal injuries.
* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
**
The act of merely ingraining combat responses without also incorporating creativity and intuition is what causes formally trained martial artists to be outperformed by Rocky. Rocky can beat any preformulated strategy or technique because he's too adaptable and unpredictable to outfox.
** Rocky can still beat the stuffing out of Miyagi's students.students, [[OneManArmy a hundred at a time]], and can shrug off the Miyagi Style's alleged DangerousForbiddenTechnique [[ImplacableMan even if gets applied to him by that hundred students at the very same time]]. And he got that from surviving on the streets fair and square.



* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Miyagi is demonstrated repeatedly to be a super-duper martial artist looking for a WorthyOpponent, and the grand fight between him and Rocky is foreshadowed far and wide. And then they meet right in the middle of Rocky's climactic RoaringRampageOfRevenge and Rocky punches him in the face so hard that he performs a NeckSnap [[CurbStompBattle and carries on without slowing down.]]

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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Miyagi is demonstrated repeatedly to be a super-duper super-duper-ultra-hyper martial artist StockShonenHero looking for a WorthyOpponent, and the grand fight between him and Rocky the WorkingClassHero is foreshadowed far and wide. And then they meet right in the middle of Rocky's climactic RoaringRampageOfRevenge and Rocky punches him in the face so hard that he performs a NeckSnap [[CurbStompBattle and carries on without slowing down.]]]] In a more "stock" Shonen series it probably would have been a greater final fight and all, but ''"Rocky"'' is a homage to media of TheSeventies, and Creator/SamPeckinpah-sama probably wouldn't have cared for big martial arts brawls...
21st May '18 2:11:27 PM marcoasalazarm
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** Rocky is much more brutal. There's only so many times even a 500-Dan Ultraviolet Belt in [[SupernaturalMartialArts Heavenly Dragon-Style Ju-Jitsu]] like Miyagi can take [[GroinAttack getting his nutsack used as a punching bag]] before he calls it quits.

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** Rocky is much more brutal. There's only so many times even a 500-Dan Ultraviolet Belt in [[SupernaturalMartialArts Heavenly Dragon-Style Ju-Jitsu]] like Miyagi can take [[GroinAttack getting his nutsack used as a punching bag]] bag and grappling point]] and [[KungShui his head being banged against every hard surface in the room]] before he calls it quits.
18th Jan '18 8:15:10 PM marcoasalazarm
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** Rocky is much more brutal. There's only so many times even a 500-Dan Ultraviolet Belt in [[SupernaturalMartialArts Heavenly Dragon-Style Ju-Jitsu]] like Miyagi can take [[GroinAttack getting his nutsack used as a punching bag]] and before he calls it quits.

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** Rocky is much more brutal. There's only so many times even a 500-Dan Ultraviolet Belt in [[SupernaturalMartialArts Heavenly Dragon-Style Ju-Jitsu]] like Miyagi can take [[GroinAttack getting his nutsack used as a punching bag]] and before he calls it quits.
18th Jan '18 7:42:38 PM SteelEdge
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** For every Rocky for successfully masters the art of artless brawling, there are hundreds of punks who were beaten, maimed, or even killed without any idea on what they're doing. Meanwhile, Miyagi's dojo can train anyone to a high level of skill with minimal injuries.


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** Rocky can still beat the stuffing out of Miyagi's students.
22nd Dec '17 4:53:59 AM ElodieHiras
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** Rocky wins with his style less street fighting style... That turned out to be UsefulNotes/KravMaga.
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