History PlayingWith / FauxActionGirl

13th Jun '17 4:59:23 AM doorhandle
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** None of the villains are dumb enough to make that mistake twice, so, short of a WoundedGazelleWarcry, Amazing Girl remains a useless moeblob for most of the season.
13th Jun '17 4:57:13 AM doorhandle
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Amazing Girl is a MilesGloriosus and [[PaperTiger a complete pushover in actual battle:]] and everyone but her knows it.
* '''Played For Drama''': Amazing Girl is a danger to herself and other because she only ''thinks'' she can fight.
8th Nov '16 10:57:09 PM fsdfsdfsd
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** Amazing Girl is genuinely competent and powerful... when she's not subjected to WorfHadTheFlu, which unfortunately for her the writers love to do. However they're careful to provide well-thought out and fully justified reasons for each use of WorfHadTheFlu, and on the rare occasion when she's ''not'' subjected to it she's genuinely [[{{Pun}} amazing]].

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** Amazing Girl is genuinely competent and powerful... when she's not subjected to WorfHadTheFlu, which unfortunately for her the writers love to do. However they're careful to provide well-thought out and fully justified reasons for each use of WorfHadTheFlu, WorfHadTheFlu that would have the same effect on any male character, and on the rare occasion when she's ''not'' subjected to it she's genuinely [[{{Pun}} amazing]].
3rd Nov '16 6:19:10 PM fsdfsdfsd
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** Amazing Girl is genuinely competent and powerful... when she's not subjected to WorfHadTheFlu. And since the writers love coming up with excuses to keep her from fighting at full strength she almost never wins a fight. However they're careful to provide well-thought out and fully justified reasons for each use of WorfHadTheFlu, and on the rare occasion when she's ''not'' subjected to it she's genuinely [[{{Pun}} amazing]].

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** Amazing Girl is genuinely competent and powerful... when she's not subjected to WorfHadTheFlu. And since WorfHadTheFlu, which unfortunately for her the writers love coming up with excuses to keep her from fighting at full strength she almost never wins a fight.do. However they're careful to provide well-thought out and fully justified reasons for each use of WorfHadTheFlu, and on the rare occasion when she's ''not'' subjected to it she's genuinely [[{{Pun}} amazing]].
3rd Nov '16 6:16:54 PM fsdfsdfsd
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** Amazing Girl is genuinely competent and powerful... when she's not subjected to WorfHadTheFlu. And since the writers love coming up with excuses to keep her from fighting at full strength, she's almost always subjected to WorfHadTheFlu. However they're careful to give well-thought out and fully justified reasons for WorfHadTheFlu, and on the rare occasion when she's ''not'' subjected to it she's genuinely [[{{Pun}} amazing]].

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** Amazing Girl is genuinely competent and powerful... when she's not subjected to WorfHadTheFlu. And since the writers love coming up with excuses to keep her from fighting at full strength, she's strength she almost always subjected to WorfHadTheFlu. never wins a fight. However they're careful to give provide well-thought out and fully justified reasons for each use of WorfHadTheFlu, and on the rare occasion when she's ''not'' subjected to it she's genuinely [[{{Pun}} amazing]].
3rd Nov '16 6:15:44 PM fsdfsdfsd
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Amazing Girl is competent and powerful in her solo series, when written by [[MyRealDaddy Writer X]]; in the team book, and guest appearances written by anyone else, she's not nearly as effective or independent.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Zagged''':
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Amazing Girl is competent and powerful in her solo series, when written by [[MyRealDaddy Writer X]]; in the team book, and guest appearances written by anyone else, she's not nearly as effective or independent.independent.
** Amazing Girl is genuinely competent and powerful... when she's not subjected to WorfHadTheFlu. And since the writers love coming up with excuses to keep her from fighting at full strength, she's almost always subjected to WorfHadTheFlu. However they're careful to give well-thought out and fully justified reasons for WorfHadTheFlu, and on the rare occasion when she's ''not'' subjected to it she's genuinely [[{{Pun}} amazing]].
16th Jul '16 2:53:22 AM TroperN912
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* '''Enforced''': "Our primary audience is twelve-year-old boys who want to see the awesome male Superhero characters, and Amazing Girl is just there as a sop for the PeripheryDemographic, so don't waste time making her look competent when she can be making the male characters look more awesome instead."

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* '''Enforced''': '''Enforced''':
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"Our primary audience is twelve-year-old boys who want to see the awesome male Superhero characters, and Amazing Girl is just there as a sop for the PeripheryDemographic, so don't waste time making her look competent when she can be making the male characters look more awesome instead."
** "We thought of Amazing Girl as a powerful character able to easily kick people's ass. Turns out that isn't exciting, so let's apply TheWorfEffect and call it a day.
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12th May '16 3:47:59 PM SKJAM
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'''Basic Trope''': We are told that a female character is equal or superior to other characters in combat skills or other action plot-relevant matters, but her actual performance does not bear this out.
* '''Straight''': Amazing Girl has a black belt in karate and is an expert shot, but never gains a clear victory except against {{Mooks}} or a DesignatedGirlFight. The rest of the time, she needs to be bailed out by her teammates, or scores an assist at best.

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'''Basic Trope''': We are told that a female character is equal or superior to other the male characters in combat skills or other action plot-relevant matters, but her actual performance does not bear this out.
* '''Straight''': Amazing Girl has a black belt in karate and is an expert shot, but never gains a clear victory except against {{Mooks}} or a DesignatedGirlFight. The rest of the time, she needs to be bailed out by her male teammates, or scores an assist at best.



** Amazing Girl was raised with the mindset that she shouldn't outshine her friends, and is subconsciously holding back.

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** Amazing Girl was raised with the mindset that she shouldn't outshine her male friends, and is subconsciously holding back.



** Amazing Girl is described as being untrained and less powerful than her teammates, [[ActionGirl but in actual results turns out to kick just as much butt as them.]]

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** Amazing Girl is described as being untrained and less powerful than her male teammates, [[ActionGirl but in actual results turns out to kick just as much butt as them.]]



** Alternatively, Amazing Girl FamedInStory as a skilled fighter, but is introduced as a who [[FragileFlower frightens easily at the first confrontation]]. Then they hurt [[CuteKitten Mr. Fluffers]], and Amazing Girl beats them all in a CurbStompBattle.
* '''Double Subverted''': But the mole was holding back deliberately too, and the members of the team have to bail her out '''again.'''

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** Alternatively, Amazing Girl is FamedInStory as a skilled fighter, but is introduced as a delicate maiden who [[FragileFlower frightens easily at the first confrontation]]. Then they hurt [[CuteKitten Mr. Fluffers]], and Amazing Girl beats them all in a CurbStompBattle.
* '''Double Subverted''': But the mole was holding back deliberately too, and the male members of the team have to bail her out '''again.'''



* '''Enforced''': "Our primary audience is twelve-year-old boys who want to see the awesome 30 year old Superhero characters, and Amazing Girl is a 16 year old side kick. She's just there as a sop for the PeripheryDemographic, so don't waste time making her look competent when she can be making the other adult characters look more awesome instead."

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* '''Enforced''': "Our primary audience is twelve-year-old boys who want to see the awesome 30 year old male Superhero characters, and Amazing Girl is a 16 year old side kick. She's just there as a sop for the PeripheryDemographic, so don't waste time making her look competent when she can be making the other adult male characters look more awesome instead."



** Astounding Woman looks for a sidekick who has an impressive reputation, but won't outshine her.

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** Astounding Woman Man looks for a sidekick who has an impressive reputation, but won't outshine her.him.



* '''Conversed''': "I hope they give Amazing Girl some better plotlines this season. I get tired of seeing a supposedly competent ex-black-op's agent getting captured and tied up by the villains all the time."

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* '''Conversed''': "I hope they give Amazing Girl some better plotlines this season. I get tired of seeing a supposedly competent ex-black-op's ex-black-ops agent getting captured and tied up by the villains all the time."
11th May '16 5:50:25 AM TrailblazerZeno
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* '''Enforced''': "Our primary audience is twelve-year-old boys who want to see the awesome 30 year old dude characters, and Amazing Girl is a 16 year old side kick. She's just there as a sop for the PeripheryDemographic, so don't waste time making her look competent when she can be making the other adult characters look more awesome instead."

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* '''Enforced''': "Our primary audience is twelve-year-old boys who want to see the awesome 30 year old dude Superhero characters, and Amazing Girl is a 16 year old side kick. She's just there as a sop for the PeripheryDemographic, so don't waste time making her look competent when she can be making the other adult characters look more awesome instead."



* '''Exploited''': The BigBad [[BatmanGambit does everything he can to make sure all his/her battles are with Amazing Girl.]] [[TheBadGuyWins So (s)he'll win every time]] & the other heroes won't screw up [[ThePlan his/her plans]].

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* '''Exploited''': The BigBad [[BatmanGambit does everything he they can to make sure all his/her their battles are with Amazing Girl.]] [[TheBadGuyWins So (s)he'll they'll win every time]] & the other heroes won't screw up [[ThePlan his/her their plans]].
11th May '16 5:45:52 AM TrailblazerZeno
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'''Basic Trope''': We are told that a female character is equal or superior to the male ones in combat skills or other action plot-relevant matters, but her actual performance does not bear this out.
* '''Straight''': Amazing Girl has a black belt in karate and is an expert shot, but never gains a clear victory except against {{Mooks}} or a DesignatedGirlFight. The rest of the time, she needs to be bailed out by her male teammates, or scores an assist at best.

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'''Basic Trope''': We are told that a female character is equal or superior to the male ones other characters in combat skills or other action plot-relevant matters, but her actual performance does not bear this out.
* '''Straight''': Amazing Girl has a black belt in karate and is an expert shot, but never gains a clear victory except against {{Mooks}} or a DesignatedGirlFight. The rest of the time, she needs to be bailed out by her male teammates, or scores an assist at best.



** Amazing Girl was raised with the mindset that she shouldn't outshine her male friends, and is subconsciously holding back.

to:

** Amazing Girl was raised with the mindset that she shouldn't outshine her male friends, and is subconsciously holding back.



** Amazing Girl is described as being untrained and less powerful than her male teammates, [[ActionGirl but in actual results turns out to kick just as much butt as them.]]

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** Amazing Girl is described as being untrained and less powerful than her male teammates, [[ActionGirl but in actual results turns out to kick just as much butt as them.]]



* '''Double Subverted''': But the mole was holding back deliberately too, and the male members of the team have to bail her out '''again.'''

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* '''Double Subverted''': But the mole was holding back deliberately too, and the male members of the team have to bail her out '''again.'''



** The female characters are exactly as competent and powerful as you'd expect from their described background.
** There are no ActionGirl-like characters.
* '''Enforced''': "Our primary audience is twelve-year-old boys who want to see the awesome male characters, and Amazing Girl is just there as a sop for the PeripheryDemographic, so don't waste time making her look competent when she can be making the male characters look more awesome instead."

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** The female characters are Amazing Girl is exactly as competent and powerful as you'd expect from their her described background.
** There are no ActionGirl-like characters.
* '''Enforced''': "Our primary audience is twelve-year-old boys who want to see the awesome male 30 year old dude characters, and Amazing Girl is a 16 year old side kick. She's just there as a sop for the PeripheryDemographic, so don't waste time making her look competent when she can be making the male other adult characters look more awesome instead."



** Astounding Man looks for a female sidekick who has an impressive reputation, but won't outshine him.

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** Astounding Man Woman looks for a female sidekick who has an impressive reputation, but won't outshine him.her.



* '''Conversed''': "I hope they give Amazing Girl some better plotlines this season. I get tired of seeing a supposedly competent woman getting captured and tied up by the villains all the time."

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* '''Conversed''': "I hope they give Amazing Girl some better plotlines this season. I get tired of seeing a supposedly competent woman ex-black-op's agent getting captured and tied up by the villains all the time."
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