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**Alice is about to forgive Bob but is stopped by Charlie who tells her that if she forgives him he will do it again.
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** Bob destroys Alice's important book. She's then filled with rage and declares that she'll never forgive him.

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** Bob destroys didn't even meant to destroy Alice's important book. She's then book, But she's filled with rage and declares that she'll never forgive him.
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** Bob destroys Alice's important book. She's then fuled with rage and declares that she'll never forgive him.

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** Bob destroys Alice's important book. She's then fuled filled with rage and declares that she'll never forgive him.
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**Bob destroys Alice's important book. She's then fuled with rage and declares that she'll never forgive him.

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* '''Played For Drama''': Alice's excessive willingness to forgive is her FatalFlaw.

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* '''Played For Drama''': Drama''':
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Alice's excessive willingness to forgive is her FatalFlaw.FatalFlaw.
** Alice undergoes a FaceHeelTurn and forgives Bob's actions as they are no longer happening to her specifically.

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** Alternately Alice forgives Bob completely without any reservations... but all Bob did was PokeThePoodle.

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** Alternately Alice forgives Bob completely without any reservations... but all Bob did was PokeThePoodle.



** Bob is forced by the villains to destroy the important book. Alice is disgusted that her friend didn't confide in her.
** Alternatively, Alice tells Bob that in order to be redeemed, he must make it up to the people that he has wronged.
** Bob is forced by the villains to destroy the important book. Alice didn't take action before forgiving Bob, but it's because she didn't give a crap about the book in the first place.
** Alice forgives Bob... but Bob can't forgive himself.



* '''Double Subverted''': ...But then Alice realizes that her friend had no other choice.

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* '''Double Subverted''': ...But then Subverted''': Alice realizes that her friend had no other choice.initially avoids Bob due to lingering resentment, but then becomes comfortable around him.
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** Bob was forced '''at gunpoint''' to destroy the important book. Alice would rather suffer than lose her friend.
** Bob was {{Brainwashed}} or reduced to a [[PeoplePuppets person puppet]]. Alice sees no point in blaming her friend for behavior that wasn't really his fault.
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** Bob strips Alice naked, takes photos and videos of her, uploads them online and handcuffs her to a pole in the middle of the city so everyone can laugh and photograph her and makes her his SexSlave, resulting her in her losing her job and family. She forgives him and serves him [[HappinessInSlavery happily]].
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** Charlie feels that Alice [[KarmaHoudini let Bob off way too easily]] and attempts to [[VigilanteExecution take matters into his own hands]].
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** Alice is a KindheartedSimpleton who lacks knowledge about the concept of revenge, so forgiving is the only thing that she can get to everyone.

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** Alice is a KindheartedSimpleton and/or WideEyedIdealist who lacks knowledge doesn't know anything about the concept of revenge, so forgiving kindness is the only thing that she can get give to everyone.
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** Alice is a KindheartedSimpleton who lacks knowledge about the concept of revenge, so forgiving is the only thing that she can get to everyone.

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* '''Straight''': Bob is forced by the villains to destroy the important book. Joe is a good Samaritan and forgives Bob, not seeing him as a bad person.

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* '''Straight''': Bob is forced by the villains to destroy the destroys an important book. Joe Alice is a good Samaritan and forgives Bob, not seeing him as a bad person.



** Bob assassinates the President of the United States on live television. Joe buys him ice cream.
** Bob was an EvilOverlord who tried to take over the world and caused deaths of numerous people, including Joe's friends and family. After he apologises, however, Joe forgives him immediately and they become friends.

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** Bob assassinates the President of the United States on live television. Joe Alice buys him ice cream.
** Bob was an EvilOverlord who tried to take over the world and caused the deaths of numerous people, including Joe's Alice's friends and family. After he apologises, however, Joe Alice forgives him immediately and they become friends.



** Joe is still quite resentful towards Bob after the bad things he has done, but [[ForgivenButNotForgotten grudgingly decides to give him the benefit of the doubt]]. At least for now.
** Alternately Bob forgives Joe completely without any reservations... but all Joe did was PokeThePoodle.

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** Joe Alice is still quite resentful towards Bob after the bad things he has done, but [[ForgivenButNotForgotten grudgingly decides to give him the benefit of the doubt]]. At least for now.
** Alternately Bob Alice forgives Joe Bob completely without any reservations... but all Joe Bob did was PokeThePoodle.



** Bob was forced '''at gunpoint''' to destroy the important book. Joe would rather suffer than lose his friend.
** Bob was {{Brainwashed}} or reduced to a [[PeoplePuppets person puppet]]. Joe sees no point in blaming his friend for behavior which wasn't really his fault.
** Joe is an AllLovingHero.
** Joe is just [[StupidGood very naive]].
** Bob is a chronic {{Jerkass}} to his colleagues, but Joe, his boss, looks the other way because Bob has a [[TheTeamBenefactor crucial skill set nobody else in the firm has]].
** Joe does not want to risk Bob [[FaceHeelTurn switching sides entirely.]]
** Joe doesn't want to risk another fight, so of course forgiving him was the best option.
** Joe forgave Bob simply because he ''wanted'' to forgive him. Forgiveness after all is completely personal, not a law, and whatever Bob did wasn't enough to shake that personal desire.
** Bob and Joe are in imminent mortal danger that forces them to work together to survive. Joe might not want to forgive Bob, but he cannot afford to let personal feelings get in the way.
** Joe was a ButtMonkey who went through a HumiliationConga prior to Joe destroying the book. After everything he went through, he's willing to let Joe's deed slide because it's the least of his concerns.

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** Bob was forced '''at gunpoint''' to destroy the important book. Joe Alice would rather suffer than lose his her friend.
** Bob was {{Brainwashed}} or reduced to a [[PeoplePuppets person puppet]]. Joe Alice sees no point in blaming his her friend for behavior which that wasn't really his fault.
** Joe Alice is an AllLovingHero.
** Joe Alice is just [[StupidGood very naive]].
** Bob is a chronic {{Jerkass}} to his colleagues, but Joe, Alice, his boss, looks the other way because Bob has a [[TheTeamBenefactor crucial skill set nobody else in the firm has]].
** Joe Alice does not want to risk Bob [[FaceHeelTurn switching sides entirely.]]
** Joe Alice doesn't want to risk another fight, so of course forgiving him was the best option.
** Joe Alice forgave Bob simply because he she ''wanted'' to forgive him. Forgiveness after all is completely personal, not a law, and whatever Bob did wasn't enough to shake that personal desire.
** Bob and Joe Alice are in imminent mortal danger that which forces them to work together to survive. Joe Alice might not want to forgive Bob, but he she cannot afford to let personal feelings get in the way.
** Joe Alice was a ButtMonkey who went through a HumiliationConga prior to Joe Bob destroying the book. After everything he she went through, he's she's willing to let Joe's Bob's deed slide because it's the least of his her concerns.



** Bob is forced by the villains to destroy the important book. Joe is disgusted that his friend didn't confide in him.
** Alternatively, Joe tells Bob that in order to be redeemed, he must make it up to the people that he has wronged.
** Bob is forced by the villains to destroy the important book. Joe didn't take action before forgiving Bob, but it's because he didn't give a crap about the book in the first place.
** Joe forgives Bob... but Bob can't forgive himself.
** Joe ''says'' he's forgiven Bob, but he actually hasn't and still holds a grudge against him even if he's trying to move on.
* '''Double Subverted''':
** ...But then Joe realizes that his friend had no other choice.
** Alice cared about the book, but being a good Samaritan, she forgives both Joe and Bob.

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** Bob is forced by the villains to destroy the important book. Joe Alice is disgusted that his her friend didn't confide in him.
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** Alternatively, Joe Alice tells Bob that in order to be redeemed, he must make it up to the people that he has wronged.
** Bob is forced by the villains to destroy the important book. Joe Alice didn't take action before forgiving Bob, but it's because he she didn't give a crap about the book in the first place.
** Joe Alice forgives Bob... but Bob can't forgive himself.
** Joe Alice ''says'' he's she's forgiven Bob, but he she actually hasn't and still holds a grudge against him even if he's she's trying to move on.
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Subverted''': ...But then Joe Alice realizes that his her friend had no other choice.
** Alice cared about the book, but being a good Samaritan, she forgives both Joe and Bob.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Joe has BlueAndOrangeMorality; destroying the important book is easily fixed in his eyes. But then Bob steps on a butterfly and Joe [[DisproportionateRetribution tries to kill him]]. When the fight comes to a draw, they both forgive each other and are best friends again.
* '''Averted''': Joe doesn't let Bob off so easily. Bob has to spend the rest of the episode (or even more than one episode) trying to make amends with Joe.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Joe Alice has BlueAndOrangeMorality; destroying the important book is easily fixed in his her eyes. But then Bob steps on a butterfly and Joe Alice [[DisproportionateRetribution tries to kill him]]. When the fight comes to a draw, they both forgive each other and are best friends again.
* '''Averted''': Joe Alice doesn't let Bob off so easily. Bob has to spend the rest of the episode (or even more than one episode) trying to make amends with Joe.her.



** Joe can't just dump Bob in ''The Bob & Joe Show''!
** The show is about how revenge is bad, and that redemption is that only thing stopping people from enacting ThenLetMeBeEvil.

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** Joe Alice can't just dump Bob in ''The Bob & Joe Alice Show''!
** The show is about how revenge is bad, and that redemption is that the only thing stopping people from enacting ThenLetMeBeEvil.



* '''Invoked''': Bob knows how forgiving Joe is, so he uses this to get away with a number of schemes.

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* '''Invoked''': Bob knows how forgiving Joe Alice is, so he uses this to get away with a number of schemes.



** Joe makes it clear from the beginning that he isn't a forgiving person, as Bob learns the hard way.
** Wether or not Joe forgives him, Bob turns him down anyway. Either from thinking he doesn't deserve it, or not caring about it at all.

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** Joe Alice makes it clear from the beginning that he isn't a forgiving person, as Bob learns the hard way.
** Wether or not Joe Regardless of whether Alice forgives him, Bob turns him her down anyway. Either from thinking he doesn't deserve it, it or not caring about it at all.



* '''Discussed''': "Joe is awfully forgiving to Bob even after the atrocities Bob did".
* '''Conversed''': "Ugh! The writer must have a low moral sense in having Joe being forgiven for all of his crap."

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* '''Discussed''': "Joe "Alice is awfully forgiving to Bob even after the atrocities Bob he did".
* '''Conversed''': "Ugh! The writer must have a low moral sense in having Joe Bob being forgiven for all of his crap."



** Through a first person narrative we find that Joe was not forgiven for an offense, thus leading for him to forgive others.
** Bob notices how easily Joe forgives people, so he comes up with a FreudianExcuse and makes a speech about how tragic his life is. It makes Joe let his guard down, thus allowing Bob to successfully betray him.
** Joe's teammates [[WhatTheHellHero calls him out]] [[PunishedForSympathy on how easy he forgives Bob.]] Stating that he's being a {{naive|Newcomer}} WideEyedIdealist, and warns him that [[TheFarmerAndTheViper Bob would take advantage]] [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished over him and kill him.]]
** The above gets to a point where [[GrumpyBear Shane]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere promptly leaves Joe's group]] before, from that point forward, going on to [[KillHimAlready cutting the drivel and killing villains]] or getting rid of anyone [[TheMillstone who would substantially hinder him]].
** Bob, despite getting forgiveness, and being told by Joe he was put in a difficult position, still feels guilty about what he did, and moans about not deserving it.
** Bob is completely unrepentant and shoves the forgiveness back in Joe's face, telling him he still continues his evil acts and making Joe's forgiveness entirely meaningless.

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** Through a first person first-person narrative we find that Joe Alice was not forgiven for an offense, thus leading for him her to forgive others.
** Bob notices how easily Joe Alice forgives people, so he comes up with a FreudianExcuse and makes a speech about how tragic his life is. It makes Joe Alice let his her guard down, thus allowing Bob to successfully betray him.
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** Joe's Alice's teammates [[WhatTheHellHero calls him call her out]] [[PunishedForSympathy on how easy he she forgives Bob.]] Stating that he's she's being a {{naive|Newcomer}} WideEyedIdealist, and warns him warn her that [[TheFarmerAndTheViper Bob would take advantage]] [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished over him of her forgiveness and kill him.her.]]
** The above gets to a point where [[GrumpyBear Shane]] Shane [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere promptly leaves Joe's Alice's group]] before, from that point forward, going on to [[KillHimAlready cutting the drivel and killing villains]] or getting rid of anyone [[TheMillstone who would substantially hinder him]].
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** Bob, despite getting forgiveness, and being told by Joe Alice he was put in a difficult position, still feels guilty about what he did, did and moans about not deserving it.
** Bob is completely unrepentant and shoves the forgiveness back in Joe's Alice's face, telling him her he will still continues continue his evil acts and acts, therefore making Joe's Alice's forgiveness entirely meaningless.



** Joe understands the weirdness of how easily he forgives people, but still will not let up because of his principles.
** Joe was aware of the betrayal and counters it, pointing out how miserable Bob really is by making another speech with his real FreudianExcuse. Bob is shocked by Joe being the only one who understands him, even to the point of becoming TheAtoner.
** Joe is aware of it and explains to his teammates on [[FreudianExcuse why he's so easily forgiving to other people]], stating that he was once bad once. Until a priest forgives him of his misdeeds and tells him to GoAndSinNoMore. Moved by the priest's actions, Joe had a HeelFaceTurn, and moved his teammates.
* '''Played For Drama''': Their excessive willingness to forgive is a FatalFlaw.

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** Joe Alice understands the weirdness of how easily he she forgives people, but still will not let up because of his her principles.
** Joe Alice was aware of the betrayal and counters it, pointing out how miserable Bob really is by making another speech with his real FreudianExcuse. Bob is shocked by Joe Alice being the only one who understands him, even to the point of becoming TheAtoner.
** Joe Alice is aware of it and explains to his her teammates on [[FreudianExcuse why he's she's so easily forgiving to other people]], stating that he she was once bad once. Until a priest forgives him forgave her of his misdeeds and tells him told her to GoAndSinNoMore. Moved by the priest's actions, Joe Alice had a HeelFaceTurn, and moved his HeelFaceTurn. This moves her teammates.
* '''Played For Drama''': Their Alice's excessive willingness to forgive is a her FatalFlaw.
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** [[ChildrenAreInnocent Bob is too young to understand his actions.]]
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* Joe was a ButtMonkey who went through a HumiliationConga prior to Joe destroying the book. After everything he went through, he's willing to let Joe's deed slide because it's the least of concerns.

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* ** Joe was a ButtMonkey who went through a HumiliationConga prior to Joe destroying the book. After everything he went through, he's willing to let Joe's deed slide because it's the least of his concerns.
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* Joe was a ButtMonkey who went through a HumiliationConga prior to Joe destroying the book. After everything he went through, he's willing to let Joe's deed slide because it's the least of concerns.
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** Bob [[EarthShatteringKaboom blows up the planet]], but Alice ''still'' forgives him.
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** Joe ''says'' he's forgiven Bob, but he actually hasn't and still holds a grudge against him even if he's trying to move on.
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** Bob and Joe are in imminent mortal danger that forces them to work together to survive. Joe might not want to forgive Bob, but he cannot afford to let personal feelings get in the way.
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** Joe is an AllLovingHero.
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** The show had always been on the Idealistic end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, and this trope is needed to keep the show [[{{Consistency}} thematically consistent]].
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** Joe forgave Bob simply because he ''wanted'' to forgive him. Forgiveness after all is completely personal, not a law, and whatever Bob did wasn't enough to shake that personal desire.
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** Joe doesn't want to risk another fight, so of course forgiving him was the best option.
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** Bob is completely unrepentant and shoves the forgiveness back in Joe's face, telling him he still continues his evil acts and making Joe's forgiveness entirely meaningless.
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** Bob assassinates the President of the United States. Joe buys him ice cream.

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** Bob assassinates the President of the United States.States on live television. Joe buys him ice cream.
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** Bob assassinates the President of the United States. Joe buys him ice cream after pardoning him.

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** Bob assassinates the President of the United States. Joe buys him ice cream after pardoning him.cream.
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** Bob remotely detonates a hydrogen bomb in Venice. Joe buys him ice cream.

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** Bob remotely detonates a hydrogen bomb in Venice. assassinates the President of the United States. Joe buys him ice cream.cream after pardoning him.

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* '''Defied''': Joe makes it clear from the beginning that he isn't a forgiving person, as Bob learns the hard way.

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Joe makes it clear from the beginning that he isn't a forgiving person, as Bob learns the hard way.

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* '''Defied''': Joe makes it clear from the beginning that he isn't a forgiving person, as Bob learns the hard way.
** Wether or not Joe forgives him, Bob turns him down anyway. Either from thinking he doesn't deserve it, or not caring about it at all.



* '''Defied''': Joe makes it clear from the beginning that he isn't a forgiving person, as Bob learns the hard way.
** Wether or not Joe forgives him, Bob turns him down anyway. Either from thinking he doesn't deserve it, or not caring about it at all.
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* Bob remotely detonates a hydrogen bomb in Venice. Joe buys him ice cream.
* Bob was an EvilOverlord who tried to take over the world and caused deaths of numerous people, including Joe's friends and family. After he apologises, however, Joe forgives him immediately and they become friends.

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* ** Bob remotely detonates a hydrogen bomb in Venice. Joe buys him ice cream.
* ** Bob was an EvilOverlord who tried to take over the world and caused deaths of numerous people, including Joe's friends and family. After he apologises, however, Joe forgives him immediately and they become friends.



* Bob, Joe, and Alice get together for lunch. Bob [[FlippingTheTable flips the table]] (intentionally) and then immediately asks forgiveness, which is given.
* Bob is committing new atrocities every day, but each time he gets forgiven by everyone.

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* ** Bob, Joe, and Alice get together for lunch. Bob [[FlippingTheTable flips the table]] (intentionally) and then immediately asks forgiveness, which is given.
* ** Bob is committing new atrocities every day, but each time he gets forgiven by everyone.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob remotely detonates a hydrogen bomb in Venice. Joe buys him ice cream.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
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Bob remotely detonates a hydrogen bomb in Venice. Joe buys him ice cream.cream.
* Bob was an EvilOverlord who tried to take over the world and caused deaths of numerous people, including Joe's friends and family. After he apologises, however, Joe forgives him immediately and they become friends.



* '''Parodied''': Bob, Joe, and Alice get together for lunch. Bob [[FlippingTheTable flips the table]] (intentionally) and then immediately asks forgiveness, which is given.

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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
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Bob, Joe, and Alice get together for lunch. Bob [[FlippingTheTable flips the table]] (intentionally) and then immediately asks forgiveness, which is given.given.
* Bob is committing new atrocities every day, but each time he gets forgiven by everyone.

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