History PlayingWith / CallingTheOldManOut

29th Oct '15 10:43:43 AM imadmagician
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* '''Exploited''': Charlie, a rival of Monty, gets wind of the tension between Jake and his father, using this knowledge to his advantage by swaying Jake to his side and pitting him against his father even further.

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* '''Exploited''': Charlie, a rival of Monty, Monty's enemy, gets wind of the tension between Jake and his father, using father and uses this knowledge to his advantage by swaying to sway Jake to his side and pitting pit him against his father even further.
29th Oct '15 10:41:16 AM imadmagician
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* '''Exploited''': Someone else deliberately sets this up so Jake would willingly join their side.

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* '''Exploited''': Someone else deliberately sets Charlie, a rival of Monty, gets wind of the tension between Jake and his father, using this up so knowledge to his advantage by swaying Jake would willingly join their side.to his side and pitting him against his father even further.
3rd May '15 9:17:07 PM Angeldeb82
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* '''Reconstructed''': Monty's in for a nasty surprise; Status Quo ''Isn't'' God in this case, and when Jake tells Monty he's not about to take any more of Monty's crap anymore, Jake means it only too well. The first time Monty tries to pull any of his old JerkAss tricks again, Jake gives him the hiding of a lifetime and then cuts Monty out of his life forever, leaving Monty alone and powerless unless he changes his ways.

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* '''Reconstructed''': Monty's in for a nasty surprise; Status Quo ''Isn't'' God in this case, and when Jake tells Monty he's not about to take any more of Monty's crap anymore, Jake means it only too well. The first time Monty tries to pull any of his old JerkAss {{Jerkass}} tricks again, Jake gives him the hiding of a lifetime and then cuts Monty out of his life forever, leaving Monty alone and powerless unless he changes his ways.



* '''Played For Drama:''' Jake calls out Monty at a bad time, and the already emotionally unstable and abusive monster responds by ''assaulting'' Jake, launching into an BreakingSpeech about how his "worthless son" has been living off his hard-earned money all this time and owes him his very ''life''. Jake pulls a pistol. So does Monty. The screen blanks and a shot rings out. It is left ambiguous as to who died.

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* '''Played For Drama:''' Jake calls out Monty at a bad time, and the already emotionally unstable and abusive monster responds by ''assaulting'' Jake, launching into an BreakingSpeech a "BreakThemByTalking" lecture about how his "worthless son" has been living off his hard-earned money all this time and owes him his very ''life''. Jake pulls a pistol. So does Monty. The screen blanks and a shot rings out. It is left ambiguous as to who died.



%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???

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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': '''Intended Audience Reaction''': ???
19th Jan '15 12:06:51 AM StongRadd
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* '''Exploited''': ???

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* '''Exploited''': ???Someone else deliberately sets this up so Jake would willingly join their side.
1st Aug '13 8:05:12 PM 313Bluestreak
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** But it doesn't help that his Monty's complaining makes him even more wangsty.

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** But it doesn't help that his Monty's complaining harshness makes him even more wangsty.
22nd Jul '13 3:07:12 PM 313Bluestreak
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* '''Subverted''': Given a chance to call Monty out, Jake stays silent.

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Given a chance to call Monty out, Jake stays silent.silent.
** It appears that Jake is [[{{Wangst}} complaining]].


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** But it doesn't help that his Monty's complaining makes him even more wangsty.
6th Jun '13 11:06:18 AM qazwsx
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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???Monty gives Jake a harsh critique and Jake tells him he's a jerk.
31st Jan '13 7:12:55 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* '''Played For Laughs:''' Monty is an average, non-abusive dad. Jake, when he calls him out, [[LargeHam hams out to the best of his ability]] and lists ''every'' single bad thing he has ever done. "You stiffed me on my allowance in August 1983, and I always had to take out the garbage..." The speech only ends three hours later.
* '''Played For Drama:''' Jake calls out Monty at a bad time, and the already emotionally unstable and abusive monster responds by ''assaulting'' Jake, launching into an HannibalLecture about how his "worthless son" has been living off his hard-earned money all this time and owes him his very ''life''. Jake pulls a pistol. So does Monty. The screen blanks and a shot rings out. it is left ambiguous as to who died.

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* '''Played For Laughs:''' Monty is an average, non-abusive dad. Jake, when he calls him out, [[LargeHam hams out to the best of his ability]] and lists ''every'' single bad thing he has ever done. "You stiffed me on my allowance in August 1983, and I always had to take out the garbage..." The speech only ends three hours later.
* '''Played For Drama:''' Jake calls out Monty at a bad time, and the already emotionally unstable and abusive monster responds by ''assaulting'' Jake, launching into an HannibalLecture BreakingSpeech about how his "worthless son" has been living off his hard-earned money all this time and owes him his very ''life''. Jake pulls a pistol. So does Monty. The screen blanks and a shot rings out. it It is left ambiguous as to who died.
10th Dec '12 11:33:31 AM VPhantom
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* '''Downplayed''': ???



* '''Parodied''': Monty acts in a monstrous fashion to Jake without any sign of any reaction or resentment from Jake. The very second Monty does something mildly irritating however, like spill salt on the table, [[BerserkButton Jake lets him have it with both barrels]].
* '''Deconstructed''': Jake calls out Monty, but he doesn't give a damn; this nasty treatment has worked all this time, so he's not about to change now. He keeps acting up, fully expecting Jake to fold because StatusQuoIsGod.
* '''Reconstructed''': Monty's in for a nasty surprise; Status Quo ''Isn't'' God in this case, and when Jake tells Monty he's not about to take any more of Monty's crap anymore, Jake means it only too well. The first time Monty tries to pull any of his old JerkAss tricks again, Jake gives him the hiding of a lifetime and then cuts Monty out of his life forever, leaving Monty alone and powerless unless he changes his ways.

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* '''Parodied''': Monty acts in a monstrous fashion to Jake without any sign of any reaction or resentment from Jake. The very second Monty does something mildly irritating however, like spill salt on the table, [[BerserkButton Jake lets him have it with both barrels]]. \n* '''Deconstructed''': Jake calls out Monty, but he doesn't give a damn; this nasty treatment has worked all this time, so he's not about to change now. He keeps acting up, fully expecting Jake to fold because StatusQuoIsGod.\n* '''Reconstructed''': Monty's in for a nasty surprise; Status Quo ''Isn't'' God in this case, and when Jake tells Monty he's not about to take any more of Monty's crap anymore, Jake means it only too well. The first time Monty tries to pull any of his old JerkAss tricks again, Jake gives him the hiding of a lifetime and then cuts Monty out of his life forever, leaving Monty alone and powerless unless he changes his ways.



* '''Exploited''': ???



* '''Deconstructed''': Jake calls out Monty, but he doesn't give a damn; this nasty treatment has worked all this time, so he's not about to change now. He keeps acting up, fully expecting Jake to fold because StatusQuoIsGod.
* '''Reconstructed''': Monty's in for a nasty surprise; Status Quo ''Isn't'' God in this case, and when Jake tells Monty he's not about to take any more of Monty's crap anymore, Jake means it only too well. The first time Monty tries to pull any of his old JerkAss tricks again, Jake gives him the hiding of a lifetime and then cuts Monty out of his life forever, leaving Monty alone and powerless unless he changes his ways.







* God dammit man, stop telling me what to do! I am perfectly capable of going back up to the top of the page and clicking on the "main" button if I so choose. The only reason I take your crap in the first place is because I'm afraid that if I stand up for myself, you'll have a stroke! And furthermore...
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\n* God ->God dammit man, stop telling me what to do! I am perfectly capable of going back up to the top of the page and clicking on the "main" button if I so choose. The only reason I take your crap in the first place is because I'm afraid that if I stand up for myself, you'll have a stroke! And furthermore...
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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
16th Aug '12 7:38:19 AM Beedle
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Monty and Jake argue back and forth with each other, both making valid criticisms about the other.
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