History PlayingWith / BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork

1st Mar '16 1:38:18 AM imadmagician
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** Emperor Evulz may be irredeemably evil [[EvenEvilHasStandards but there are some lines he won't cross]]. Master Destruction, however, not only crosses them but pole vaults over them. He then [[CallingTheOldManOut calls out the heroes on this]] "so you can sleep easy without guilty consciences."

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** Emperor Evulz may be irredeemably evil [[EvenEvilHasStandards but there are some lines he won't cross]]. Master Destruction, however, not only crosses them but pole vaults over them. He then [[CallingTheOldManOut [[WhatTheHellHero calls out the heroes on this]] "so you can sleep easy without guilty consciences."



* '''Double Subverted''': ...then he shoots him as he's "trying to escape."

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* '''Double Subverted''': ...Subverted''':
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then he shoots him as he's "trying to escape.""
** It turns out that Master Destruction was lying about wanting to reform / couldn't help the heroes even if he wanted to, Evulz was able to see through this and killed him before he could spread any more harm and lies.



** While it's obvious that Master Destruction ''cannot'' be allowed to live any longer, ''personally'' killing him would have a [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone negative]] [[TheseHandsHaveKilled effect]] [[ShellShockedVeteran on the]] [[HeroicBSOD heroes']] [[{{Trigger}} psychological]] [[HurtingHero well-being]]. Just because they were the ones to catch him doesn't mean they're the kind of people who can kill someone in cold blood, especially when it's up close and personal.

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** While it's obvious that Master Destruction ''cannot'' be allowed to live any longer, ''personally'' killing him would [[BleedEmAndWeep have a a]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone negative]] [[TheseHandsHaveKilled effect]] [[ShellShockedVeteran on the]] [[HeroicBSOD heroes']] [[{{Trigger}} psychological]] [[HurtingHero well-being]]. Just because they were the ones to catch him doesn't mean they're the kind of people who can kill someone in cold blood, especially when it's up close and personal.
28th Jul '15 1:12:57 AM doorhandle
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11th May '15 6:21:31 AM VPhantom
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* '''Deconstructed''': The fact that the heroes needed to rely on a villain to bail them out of a problem puts their convictions and abilities into question. The question on whether or not they'll need to become NecessarilyEvil also comes in, as well as what they'll do when there '''isn't''' a convenient villain around that's inclined to do the dirty work for them.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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The fact that the heroes needed to rely on a villain to bail them out of a problem puts their convictions and abilities into question. The question on whether or not they'll need to become NecessarilyEvil also comes in, as well as what they'll do when there '''isn't''' a convenient villain around that's inclined to do the dirty work for them.



* '''Reconstructed''': After receiving a "BreakThemByTalking" lecture from said villain savior about being morally cowardly and ineffective, the heroes realize that now and then they will have to ShootTheDog, but only if all other options fail first.

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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
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After receiving a "BreakThemByTalking" lecture from said villain savior about being morally cowardly and ineffective, the heroes realize that now and then they will have to ShootTheDog, but only if all other options fail first.
10th May '15 7:39:45 PM Valiran
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* '''Deconstructed''':
** The fact that the heroes needed to rely on a villain to bail them out of a problem puts their convictions and abilities into question. The question on whether or not they'll need to become NecessarilyEvil also comes in.
** While Emperor Evulz does take care of Master Destruction he is quite indiscriminate and unnecessarily violent about it, killing the innocent staff of the dinner he was eating in at the time to leave no witnesses. This highlights why relying on this trope is not a good thing.

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* '''Deconstructed''':
**
'''Deconstructed''': The fact that the heroes needed to rely on a villain to bail them out of a problem puts their convictions and abilities into question. The question on whether or not they'll need to become NecessarilyEvil also comes in.
in, as well as what they'll do when there '''isn't''' a convenient villain around that's inclined to do the dirty work for them.
** While Emperor Evulz does take care of Master Destruction he is quite indiscriminate and unnecessarily violent about it, killing the innocent staff of the dinner diner he was eating in at the time to leave no witnesses. This highlights why relying on this trope is not a good thing.


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** While it's obvious that Master Destruction ''cannot'' be allowed to live any longer, ''personally'' killing him would have a [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone negative]] [[TheseHandsHaveKilled effect]] [[ShellShockedVeteran on the]] [[HeroicBSOD heroes']] [[{{Trigger}} psychological]] [[HurtingHero well-being]]. Just because they were the ones to catch him doesn't mean they're the kind of people who can kill someone in cold blood, especially when it's up close and personal.
26th Apr '15 9:19:04 PM Angeldeb82
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** Emperor Evulz may be irredeemably evil [[EvenEvilHasStandards but there are some lines he won't cross.]] Master Destruction, however, not only crosses them but pole vaults over them. He then [[CallingTheOldManOut calls out the heroes on this]] "so you can sleep easy without guilty consciences."

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** Emperor Evulz may be irredeemably evil [[EvenEvilHasStandards but there are some lines he won't cross.]] cross]]. Master Destruction, however, not only crosses them but pole vaults over them. He then [[CallingTheOldManOut calls out the heroes on this]] "so you can sleep easy without guilty consciences."



** Evulz likes to think that he is [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou The Only One Allowed To Defeat Him]]

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** Evulz likes to think that he is [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou The Only One Allowed To to Defeat Him]]



* '''Reconstructed''': After receiving a BreakingSpeech from said villain savior about being morally cowardly and ineffective, the heroes realize that now and then they will have to ShootTheDog, but only if all other options fail first.

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* '''Reconstructed''': After receiving a BreakingSpeech "BreakThemByTalking" lecture from said villain savior about being morally cowardly and ineffective, the heroes realize that now and then they will have to ShootTheDog, but only if all other options fail first.



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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': '''Intended Audience Reaction''': ???
24th Sep '14 6:27:43 PM VPhantom
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* '''Exaggerated''':
** Emperor Evulz appears and takes care of ''any'' uncomfortable act a Super Troper is faced with, from executing super villains to tactfully pointing out that, no, that new cologne really ''isn't'' very flattering.
** The heroes keep Emperor Evulz's phone number and call him whenever they need someone to ShootTheDog.

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* '''Exaggerated''':
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'''Exaggerated''': Emperor Evulz appears and takes care of ''any'' uncomfortable act a Super Troper is faced with, from executing super villains to tactfully pointing out that, no, that new cologne really ''isn't'' very flattering.
** The heroes keep Emperor Evulz's phone number and call him whenever they need someone to ShootTheDog.
flattering.



* '''Parodied''': ???

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* '''Parodied''': ???The heroes keep Emperor Evulz's phone number and call him whenever they need someone to ShootTheDog.
24th Sep '14 5:37:48 PM TrickyTroper
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* '''Exaggerated''': Emperor Evulz appears and takes care of ''any'' uncomfortable act a Super Troper is faced with, from executing super villains to tactfully pointing out that, no, that new cologne really ''isn't'' very flattering.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
**
Emperor Evulz appears and takes care of ''any'' uncomfortable act a Super Troper is faced with, from executing super villains to tactfully pointing out that, no, that new cologne really ''isn't'' very flattering.flattering.
** The heroes keep Emperor Evulz's phone number and call him whenever they need someone to ShootTheDog.



** LawfulEvil Emporer Evulz wants to stop all of the rebels in his nation. Both the ChaoticGood Super Troper and the ChaoticEvil Master Destruction.

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** LawfulEvil Emporer Emperor Evulz wants to stop all of the rebels in his nation. Both the ChaoticGood Super Troper and the ChaoticEvil Master Destruction.



* '''Inverted''': Emperor Evulz likes to think he has [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]], and as such won't execute and unarmed prisoner. The Super Tropers, on the other hand, are willing to do ''[[PragmaticHero anything]]'' for the greater good.

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* '''Inverted''': Emperor Evulz likes to think he has [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]], and as such won't execute and an unarmed prisoner. The Super Tropers, on the other hand, are willing to do ''[[PragmaticHero anything]]'' for the greater good.



* '''Parodied''': The heroes keep Emperor Evulz's phone number and call him whenever they need someone to ShootTheDog.

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* '''Parodied''': The heroes keep Emperor Evulz's phone number and call him whenever they need someone to ShootTheDog.???



* '''Averted''':
** The heroes either ShootTheDog themselves or let a dangerous villain escape justice.
** Emperor Evulz refuses to kill Master Destruction for the heroes, either because he isn't really a killer or because he doesn't like cooperating with the heroes anymore than he has to.
** The heroes TakeAThirdOption and depower Master Destruction instead of choosing between killing or releasing him to do evil again.

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* '''Averted''':
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'''Averted''': The heroes either ShootTheDog themselves or let a dangerous villain escape justice.
** Emperor Evulz refuses
never have to kill Master Destruction for the heroes, either because he isn't really a killer or because he doesn't like cooperating with the heroes anymore than he has to.
** The heroes TakeAThirdOption and depower Master Destruction instead of choosing between killing or releasing him to do evil again.
ShootTheDog.



* '''Lampshaded''': "Oh, come now. Don't act so self-righteous. If I hadn't come along, you'd have had to do it yourself!"

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* '''Lampshaded''': '''Lampshaded''':
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"Oh, come now. Don't act so self-righteous. If I hadn't come along, you'd have had to do it yourself!"yourself!"
** "Super Troper! If you aren't going to kill Destruction, then I, Dr. Evulz will!"



* '''Defied''': As soon as Evulz shows up, Paladin Paul threatens to charge him with murder if he harms the prisoner.
* '''Discussed''': "Looks like only the ''bad'' guy can solve this problem. Super Troper doesn't have the stomach for that sort of thing.
* '''Conversed''': "Super Troper! If you aren't going to kill Destruction, then I, Dr. Evulz will!"

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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** The heroes ShootTheDog themselves.
** The heroes [[WhatTheHellHero let a dangerous villain escape justice]], possibly leading to a new storyline that [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have been avoided]].
** Emperor Evulz refuses to kill Master Destruction for the heroes, either because he isn't really a killer or because he doesn't like cooperating with the heroes any more than he has to.
** The heroes TakeAThirdOption and depower Master Destruction instead of choosing between killing or releasing him to do evil again.
**
As soon as Evulz shows up, Paladin Paul threatens to charge him with murder if he harms the prisoner.
* '''Discussed''': "Looks like only the ''bad'' guy can solve this problem. Super Troper doesn't have the stomach for that sort of thing.
thing."
* '''Conversed''': "Super Troper! If you aren't going to kill Destruction, then I, Dr. "Emperor Evulz will!"must be out of his mind! What kind of villain contributes to his own defeat?"



* '''Reconstructed''': After receiving a BreakingSpeech from said villain savior about being morally cowardly and ineffective, the heroes realize that now and then they will have to {{Shoot the Dog}}--but only if all other options fail first.

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* '''Reconstructed''': After receiving a BreakingSpeech from said villain savior about being morally cowardly and ineffective, the heroes realize that now and then they will have to {{Shoot the Dog}}--but ShootTheDog, but only if all other options fail first.
20th May '14 9:33:47 AM VPhantom
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* '''Averted''': The heroes either ShootTheDog themselves or let a dangerous villain escape justice.

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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
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The heroes either ShootTheDog themselves or let a dangerous villain escape justice.



* '''Deconstructed''':
** The fact that the heroes needed to rely on a villain to bail them out of a problem puts their convictions and abilities into question. The question on whether or not they'll need to become NecessarilyEvil also comes in.
** While Emperor Evulz does take care of Master Destruction he is quite indiscriminate and unnecessarily violent about it, killing the innocent staff of the dinner he was eating in at the time to leave no witnesses. This highlights why relying on this trope is not a good thing.
* '''Reconstructed''': After receiving a BreakingSpeech from said villain savior about being morally cowardly and ineffective, the heroes realize that now and then they will have to {{Shoot the Dog}}--but only if all other options fail first.



* '''Deconstructed''': The fact that the heroes needed to rely on a villain to bail them out of a problem puts their convictions and abilities into question. The question on whether or not they'll need to become NecessarilyEvil also comes in.
** While Emperor Evulz does take care of Master Destruction he is quite indiscriminate and unnecessarily violent about it, killing the innocent staff of the dinner he was eating in at the time to leave no witnesses. This highlights why relying on this trope is not a good thing.
* '''Reconstructed''': After receiving a BreakingSpeech from said villain savior about being morally cowardly and ineffective, the heroes realize that now and then they will have to {{Shoot the Dog}}--but only if all other options fail first.



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17th May '14 12:31:53 PM Nasrudith
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** The heroes TakeAThirdOption and depower Master Destruction instead of choosing between killing or releasing him to do evil again.


Added DiffLines:

** While Emperor Evulz does take care of Master Destruction he is quite indiscriminate and unnecessarily violent about it, killing the innocent staff of the dinner he was eating in at the time to leave no witnesses. This highlights why relying on this trope is not a good thing.
11th Mar '14 2:58:16 PM dclark
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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???The Super Tropers and Emperor Evulz are both fighting Master Destruction, and Evulz happens to be the one to land the killing blow.



** Emperor Evulz refuses to kill Master Destruction for the heroes, either because he isn't really a killer or because he doesn't like cooperating with the heroes anymore than he has to.



* '''Exploited''': ???

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* '''Exploited''': ???"Wait, guys, are we just going to leave Master Destruction there unconscious? We didn't even tie him up!" "Don't worry about it, Evulz will probably show up and finish him off. We have more important things to do that babysit prisoners."



* '''Implied''': The end of the episode/movie shows Master Destruction waking up to see Emperor Evulz standing over him. The scene cuts to black, and [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse Master Destruction is never seen again]].
* '''Played For Laughs''': As the heroes surround the defeated Master Destruction, Evulz can be seen jumping around behind them begging to be allowed to kill Destruction.
--> '''Evulz''': Please please please can I kill him? Pretty please?



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%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???

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%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???%%
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