History PlayingWith / AntiVillain

18th Jul '16 3:03:03 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* '''Invoked''': Alice [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy intentionally]] acts as a morally ambiguous villain so as to capitalize on ProtagonistCenteredMorality.

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* '''Invoked''': Alice [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy intentionally]] intentionally acts as a morally ambiguous villain so as to capitalize on ProtagonistCenteredMorality.
12th Feb '14 8:14:45 AM VPhantom
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice is basically a bad guy, but she does have [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]], and shoe does care about [[BenevolentBoss the people working under her]].

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* '''Downplayed''': Alice is basically a bad guy, but she does have [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]], and shoe does care cares about [[BenevolentBoss the people working under her]].
12th Feb '14 4:38:26 AM randomtroper89
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice is basically a bad guy, but she does have [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]], and shoe does care about the[[BenoleventBoss the people working under her]].

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* '''Downplayed''': Alice is basically a bad guy, but she does have [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]], and shoe does care about the[[BenoleventBoss [[BenevolentBoss the people working under her]].
12th Feb '14 4:38:04 AM randomtroper89
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice is basically a bad guy, but she does have [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards.]]
* '''Justified''': Alice has a sympathetic BackStory and comes from a setting where the heroes are either [[GoodIsDumb incompetent]], [[KnightTemplar Knight Templars]], or [[DirtyCop corrupt]]. Overlaps with HeroAntagonist.

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* '''Downplayed''': Alice is basically a bad guy, but she does have [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards.]]
standards]], and shoe does care about the[[BenoleventBoss the people working under her]].
* '''Justified''': Alice has a sympathetic BackStory and comes from a setting where the heroes are either [[GoodIsDumb incompetent]], [[KnightTemplar Knight Templars]], {{Knight Templar}}s, or [[DirtyCop corrupt]]. Overlaps with HeroAntagonist.
22nd Aug '13 3:02:35 PM creekery
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* '''Straight''': Alice is a villain who follows a [[{{EvenEvilHasStandards}} strict moral code]] and does what she does because she sees [[TheHero heroes]] as ineffectual in getting good done.

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* '''Straight''': Alice is a villain who follows a [[{{EvenEvilHasStandards}} [[EvenEvilHasStandards strict moral code]] and does what she does because she sees [[TheHero heroes]] as ineffectual in getting good done.



* '''Downplayed''': ???
* '''Justified''': Alice has a sympathetic {{Backstory}} and comes from a setting where the heroes are either [[GoodIsDumb incompetent]], [[KnightTemplar Knight Templars]], or [[DirtyCop corrupt]]. Overlaps with HeroAntagonist.

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* '''Downplayed''': ???
Alice is basically a bad guy, but she does have [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards.]]
* '''Justified''': Alice has a sympathetic {{Backstory}} BackStory and comes from a setting where the heroes are either [[GoodIsDumb incompetent]], [[KnightTemplar Knight Templars]], or [[DirtyCop corrupt]]. Overlaps with HeroAntagonist.



* '''Double Subverted''': Alice realizes her mistakes and is trying to keep herself on the blurry line of {{Anti villain}}y.

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* '''Double Subverted''': Alice realizes her mistakes and is trying to keep herself on the blurry line of {{Anti villain}}y.anti-villainy.



* '''Exploited''': ???

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* '''Exploited''': ???TheHero tries talking Alice into his side by letting her know that they can work together.
4th Apr '13 6:33:35 AM BibsDibs
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* '''Enforced''': "Hey, we need a counter-point to our AntiHero...Let's make Alice sympathetic!"

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* '''Enforced''': '''Enforced''':
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"Hey, we need a counter-point to our AntiHero...Let's make Alice sympathetic!"sympathetic!"
** "{{Complete Monster}}s don't appeal to audiences. People don't want to see a guy to murder babies & puppies after beating the crap out of them. People want a more complex villain. Let's give them what they want & in return, we'll get all their money."
11th Dec '12 9:10:08 AM Craver357
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** Alice is a heroic villain...Most of the time, at least, but from time to time, she flies off the handle and JumpsOffTheSlipperySlope, performing outright villainous acts.

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** Alice is a heroic villain...Most of the time, at least, but from time to time, she flies off the handle and JumpsOffTheSlipperySlope, went JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope, performing outright villainous acts.



* '''Double Subverted''': Alice realizes her mistakes and is trying to keep herself on the blurry line of [[AntiVillain Antivillainy]]

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* '''Double Subverted''': Alice realizes her mistakes and is trying to keep herself on the blurry line of [[AntiVillain Antivillainy]]{{Anti villain}}y.
6th Dec '12 6:25:44 PM VPhantom
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** Alice lives in a SupervillainLair, practices her EvilLaugh, and [[CardCarryingVillain declares that she's evil]] and will TakeOverTheWorld, but rarely causes any real trouble. She just likes thevillainous lifestyle.

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** Alice lives in a SupervillainLair, practices her EvilLaugh, and [[CardCarryingVillain declares that she's evil]] and will TakeOverTheWorld, but rarely causes any real trouble. She just likes thevillainous lifestyle.the villainous lifestyle.
* '''Downplayed''': ???



* '''Deconstructed''':
** Being so close to the blurry moral line of Villainy and Heroism causes Alice to be constantly wracked with guilt and eventually have a complete mental breakdown.
** Due to Alice's ambiguity, the cops don't know whether she's a hero or a villain this week. To be on the safe side, they shoot her anyway.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** ...but returns to power to continue mission after deciding that what she has been doing is really for the better.
** She takes the villain's position to heart and tries to either help the villain (if possible, to do so within good morals) or work harder to prevent people from becoming like the anti-villain (as in, she works to prevent the tragedies that resulted in the anti-villain to become a villain).



* '''Enforced''': "Hey, we need a counter-point to our AntiHero...Let's make Alice sympathetic!"

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* '''Enforced''': "Hey, we need a counter-point to our AntiHero...Let's make Alice sympathetic!" sympathetic!"



* '''Defied''': Alice tries as hard as possible to deny her good side so that she doesn't have to be upset with herself.

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* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': Alice tries as hard as possible to deny her good side so that she doesn't have to be upset with herself.



* '''Conversed''': "Why does Alice seem to be more [[AntiHero heroic than the hero]] in this show?

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* '''Conversed''': "Why does Alice seem to be more [[AntiHero heroic than the hero]] in this show? show?
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Being so close to the blurry moral line of Villainy and Heroism causes Alice to be constantly wracked with guilt and eventually have a complete mental breakdown.
** Due to Alice's ambiguity, the cops don't know whether she's a hero or a villain this week. To be on the safe side, they shoot her anyway.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** ...but returns to power to continue mission after deciding that what she has been doing is really for the better.
** She takes the villain's position to heart and tries to either help the villain (if possible, to do so within good morals) or work harder to prevent people from becoming like the anti-villain (as in, she works to prevent the tragedies that resulted in the anti-villain to become a villain).



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%%* '''Implied''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???
15th Aug '12 6:42:45 PM IchigoMontoya
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** Alice lives in a SupervillainLair, practices her EvilLaugh, and [[CardCarryingVillain declares that she's evil]] and will TakeOverTheWorld, but rarely causes any real trouble. She just likes the {{supervillain}} lifestyle.
** DesignatedVillain
** HeroAntagonist

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** Alice lives in a SupervillainLair, practices her EvilLaugh, and [[CardCarryingVillain declares that she's evil]] and will TakeOverTheWorld, but rarely causes any real trouble. She just likes the {{supervillain}} lifestyle.
** DesignatedVillain
** HeroAntagonist
thevillainous lifestyle.
26th May '12 2:54:05 AM Telcontar
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice has hardly any villainous traits and is a villain in name only.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
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Alice has hardly any villainous traits and is a villain in name only.



* '''Inverted''': AntiHero

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
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AntiHero



* '''Subverted''': Alice is a heroic villain...Most of the time, at least, but from time to time, she flies off the handle and JumpsOffTheSlipperySlope, performing outright villainous acts.

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Alice is a heroic villain...Most of the time, at least, but from time to time, she flies off the handle and JumpsOffTheSlipperySlope, performing outright villainous acts.



*** As we see more and more of Alice, it's becomes clear that she's [[AntiHero Not even a Villain]] in the first place.

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*** ** As we see more and more of Alice, it's becomes clear that she's [[AntiHero Not even a Villain]] in the first place.



* '''Parodied''': Alice likes to think of herself as villainous, but in reality, she is a true hero whose fellow villains aren't even convinced of her evil.

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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
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Alice likes to think of herself as villainous, but in reality, she is a true hero whose fellow villains aren't even convinced of her evil.



* '''Deconstructed''': Being so close to the blurry moral line of Villainy and Heroism causes Alice to be constantly wracked with guilt and eventually have a complete mental breakdown.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Being so close to the blurry moral line of Villainy and Heroism causes Alice to be constantly wracked with guilt and eventually have a complete mental breakdown.



* '''Reconstructed''': ...but returns to power to continue mission after deciding that what she has been doing is really for the better.

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* '''Reconstructed''': ...'''Reconstructed''':
** ...
but returns to power to continue mission after deciding that what she has been doing is really for the better.
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