History PlayingWith / AntiHero

16th Apr '14 6:28:13 PM creekery
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** Jack has a very limited amount of good moments that just barely stop him from qualifying as a VillainProtagonist.
26th Jan '14 8:54:30 PM 313Bluestreak
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** Jack is a NominalHero.
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** Jack is an UnscrupulousHero or a NominalHero.
26th Jan '14 8:14:18 PM Galacton
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* '''Straight''': Billy is a vigilante who wants to make the world a better place by murdering criminals. * '''Exaggerated''': Billy is a NominalHero.
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* '''Straight''': Billy Jack is a vigilante who wants to make the world a better place by murdering criminals. * '''Exaggerated''': Billy '''Exaggerated''': ** Jack is a NominalHero.NominalHero. ** Jack is the TokenEvilTeammate.

** Billy is a ClassicalAntiHero. ** Billy is [[GoodIsNotNice irritable and sometimes violent]], but not to the point of moral ambiguity. * '''Justified''': Billy lives in a CrapsackWorld. * '''Inverted''': Billy is an AntiVillain. * '''Subverted''': Billy appears to be killing crooks left and right, but it turns out he [[BrainwashedAndCrazy didn't have control]] of his actions at the time; when he's back to normal, he's TheCape, through and through. * '''Double Subverted''': Billy is revealed to have been BrainwashedAndCrazy, and underneath that...he's just as brutal. * '''Parodied''': Billy tries to bring about his own brand of harsh justice, but he lives in a SugarBowl society where there's hardly ever even any conflict -- Billy spends most of his time [[{{Angst}} angsting]] that there's nothing to {{Angst}} about.
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** Billy Jack is a ClassicalAntiHero. ** Billy Jack is [[GoodIsNotNice irritable and sometimes violent]], but not to the point of moral ambiguity. ** Jack [[GoodIsNotSoft doesn't have a problem with killing criminals]], but is otherwise the [[BewareTheNiceOnes nicest person you could meet]]. ** Jack doesn't go [[TechnicalPacifist out of his way to kill people]] but is willing to break the law to do what he thinks is right. * '''Justified''': Billy '''Justified''': ** Jack lives in a CrapsackWorld. ** Jack lives in a DeathWorld. ** The [[TheEmpire government is evil]], by fighting against them Jack is considered a criminal. ** The setting is completely lawless and Jack stands up for the people doing things that would be against the law in our world to help out others. * '''Inverted''': Billy Jack is an AntiVillain. * '''Subverted''': Billy Jack appears to be killing crooks left and right, but it turns out he [[BrainwashedAndCrazy didn't have control]] of his actions at the time; when he's back to normal, he's TheCape, through and through. * '''Double Subverted''': Billy Jack is revealed to have been BrainwashedAndCrazy, and but underneath that...he's just as brutal. * '''Parodied''': Billy Jack tries to bring about his own brand of harsh justice, but he lives in a SugarBowl society where there's hardly ever even any conflict -- Billy spends most of his time [[{{Angst}} angsting]] that there's nothing to {{Angst}} about.

** Billy has a very inconsistent attitude towards his crime-fighting; sometimes he's [[ThouShallNotKill unwilling to kill anyone]], sometimes he's killing left and right, and sometimes he's trying to be an ActualPacifist. It's all DependingOnTheWriter. ** Billy is a HeelFaceRevolvingDoor and switches between being an AntiHero or an AntiVillain depending on wether or not he is working with the heroes at the moment. * '''Averted''': All the heroes in the story actually act heroically.
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** Billy Jack has a very inconsistent attitude towards his crime-fighting; sometimes he's [[ThouShallNotKill unwilling to kill anyone]], sometimes he's killing left and right, and sometimes he's trying to be an ActualPacifist. It's all DependingOnTheWriter. ** Billy Jack is a HeelFaceRevolvingDoor and switches between being an AntiHero or an AntiVillain depending on wether or not he is working with the heroes at the moment. * '''Averted''': All the heroes in the story actually act heroically.conventionally heroic.

** Alternatively: The author is trying to [[AnAesop prove some point]] about the nature of heroism, or else is {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ing TheHero or TheCape, which requires Billy do some questionable things in the name of justice.
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** Alternatively: The author is trying to [[AnAesop prove some point]] about the nature of heroism, or else is {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ing TheHero or TheCape, which requires Billy Jack to do some questionable things in the name of justice.

* '''Invoked''': Billy is a sadist, so he decides to start taking it out on the people who society says deserve it, lowering the crime rate as he does so and leaving the town happier for it. * '''Exploited''': The villain takes steps to make Billy a HeroWithBadPublicity to get him out of the way. * '''Defied''': Billy feels himself slipping into antiherodom, and works hard to maintain his moral code. * '''Discussed''': "Billy's not exactly a NiceGuy, but he's on the side of good. No, really."
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* '''Invoked''': Billy Jack is a sadist, so he decides to start taking it out on the people who society says deserve it, lowering the crime rate as he does so and leaving the town happier for it. * '''Exploited''': The villain takes steps to make Billy Jack a HeroWithBadPublicity to get him out of the way. * '''Defied''': Billy Jack feels himself slipping into antiherodom, and works hard to maintain his moral code. * '''Discussed''': "Billy's "Jack's not exactly a NiceGuy, but he's on the side of good. No, really."

** Billy is rapidly becoming [[NotSoDifferent just as brutal as]], [[HeWhoFightsMonsters if not WORSE than]], [[EvilVersusEvil his villains]], and when he's killed all of the real threats to society, he's still a dangerously unstable and violent individual. ** Alternatively: Billy is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder. ** Billy kills a "criminal", only to find out the real villain's still out there. This leads Billy to question his methods, feel guilty, and wonder if all those lives he's taken away before were really the lives of innocent men & women. ** Billy kills a murderer, only to find out the killer was a SympatheticMurderer who only killed villains.
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** Billy Jack is rapidly becoming [[NotSoDifferent just as brutal as]], [[HeWhoFightsMonsters if not WORSE than]], [[EvilVersusEvil his villains]], and when he's killed all of the real threats to society, he's still a dangerously unstable and violent individual. ** Alternatively: Billy Jack is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder. ** Billy Jack kills a "criminal", only to find out the real villain's still out there. This leads Billy Jack to question his methods, feel guilty, and wonder if all those lives he's taken away before were really the lives of innocent men & women. ** Billy Jack kills a murderer, only to find out the killer was a SympatheticMurderer [[SympatheticMurderer another Anti-hero]] who only killed villains.villains like him.

** Billy has a [[MoralEventHorizon line]] [[TheFettered he will not cross]]; the story runs on BlackAndGrayMorality or GrayAndGreyMorality (with Billy as ALighterShadeOfGray). ** Billy seeks therapy to help him become a more mentally stable individual.
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** Billy Jack has a [[MoralEventHorizon line]] [[TheFettered line he will not cross]]; the story runs on BlackAndGrayMorality or GrayAndGreyMorality (with Billy as ALighterShadeOfGray). [[BlackAndGrayMorality villains are much worse than he is]] and he really is making the world a better place through his actions. ** Billy Jack seeks therapy to help him become a more mentally stable individual. individual.

** Billy tries to learn about the villain's motives & make sure the villain(s) isn't really an anti-hero before killing him/her/them/it.
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** Billy tries to learn about the villain's motives & make sure the villain(s) isn't really an another anti-hero before killing him/her/them/it.

* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Billy's morally questionable actions makes him a more complex character and are used to analyze what "the qualities of a hero" truly are, and what makes someone heroic.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Billy's morally questionable actions makes him a more complex character and are used to analyze what "the qualities of a hero" truly are, and what it is that makes someone heroic."heroic".
12th Jan '14 12:35:06 PM 313Bluestreak
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Billy has a very inconsistent attitude towards his crime-fighting; sometimes he's [[ThouShallNotKill unwilling to kill anyone]], sometimes he's killing left and right, and sometimes he's trying to be an ActualPacifist. It's all DependingOnTheWriter.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Zagged''': ** Billy has a very inconsistent attitude towards his crime-fighting; sometimes he's [[ThouShallNotKill unwilling to kill anyone]], sometimes he's killing left and right, and sometimes he's trying to be an ActualPacifist. It's all DependingOnTheWriter.

** Alternatively: The author is trying to [[AnAesop prove some point]] about the nature of heroism, or else is [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructing]] TheHero or TheCape, which requires Billy do some questionable things in the name of justice.
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** Alternatively: The author is trying to [[AnAesop prove some point]] about the nature of heroism, or else is [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructing]] {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ing TheHero or TheCape, which requires Billy do some questionable things in the name of justice.
24th Dec '13 3:09:40 PM Galacton
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** Billy is a HeelFaceRevolvingDoor and switches between being an AntiHero or an AntiVillain depending on wether or not he is working with the heroes at the moment.
7th Dec '13 6:59:47 PM 313Bluestreak
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** Billy is [[GoodIsNotNice irritable & sometimes violent]], but not to the point of moral ambiguity.
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** Billy is [[GoodIsNotNice irritable & and sometimes violent]], but not to the point of moral ambiguity.
17th Nov '13 5:35:09 AM randomtroper89
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* '''Exaggerated''': Billy is a ByronicHero.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Billy is a ByronicHero.NominalHero.

** Billy wants the world to be a better place by viciously assaulting criminals to the point that they would [[FateWorseThanDeath prefer death]].
20th Jul '13 2:04:01 PM creekery
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???"TheChosenOne seems a tad unheroic."
30th Jun '13 8:39:59 PM BibsDibs
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** Billy tries to learn about the villain's movatives & make sure the villain(s) isn't really an anti-hero before killing him/her/them/it.
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** Billy tries to learn about the villain's movatives motives & make sure the villain(s) isn't really an anti-hero before killing him/her/them/it.
7th Jun '13 9:45:56 AM BibsDibs
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** Billy kills a murder, only to find out the killer was a SympatheticMurderer who only killed villains.
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** Billy kills a murder, murderer, only to find out the killer was a SympatheticMurderer who only killed villains.
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