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14th Apr '16 5:16:48 PM comicwriter
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** There are some people who claimed Aldrich Killian from ''Film/IronMan3'' was a rip-off of Syndrome from ''The Incredibles'' because they both had similar StartOfDarkness moments. In reality, the "[[DisproportionateRetribution I'm a bad guy because the hero was a dick to me when we were younger]]" plot is a fairly standard stock supervillain origin, dating ''at least'' back to ComicBook/LexLuthor and Doctor Doom.

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** There are some people who claimed Aldrich Killian from ''Film/IronMan3'' was a rip-off of Syndrome from ''The Incredibles'' because they both had similar StartOfDarkness moments. In reality, the "[[DisproportionateRetribution I'm a bad guy because the hero was a dick to me when we were younger]]" plot is a fairly standard stock supervillain origin, dating ''at least'' back to ComicBook/LexLuthor and Doctor Doom.DoctorDoom.



* The Thing is often accused of being a ''[[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]]'' ripoff, which is quite an accomplishment, seeing as how the Thing was created first -- by the ''[[JackKirby same]] [[Creator/StanLee people]]''.

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* The Thing from the is often accused of being a ''[[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]]'' ripoff, which is quite an accomplishment, seeing as how the Thing was created first -- by the ''[[JackKirby same]] [[Creator/StanLee people]]''.



* Many people seem to think that ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} came before [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor the Sub-Mariner]], even though Namor predated him by two years. This may be because Namor went out of print during UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum, while Aquaman held on as an ''Action Comics'' backup.

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* Many people seem to think that ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} came before [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor the Sub-Mariner]], even though Namor predated him by two years. This may be because Namor went out of print during UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum, while Aquaman held on as an ''Action Comics'' backup. Even then, both characters are predated by the Shark, a similar aquatic hero who has since faded into obscurity.
13th Mar '16 11:08:59 AM nombretomado
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* OlderThanTelevision: Shuma-Gorath predates his appearances in the Comicbook/DoctorStrange and ConanTheBarbarian comics, all the way back to a mention in one of Creator/RobertEHoward's Kull stories. The story was published in the 1960s, but could not have been written later than the mid-30s. This is also a case of AdaptationDisplacement.

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* OlderThanTelevision: Shuma-Gorath predates his appearances in the Comicbook/DoctorStrange and ConanTheBarbarian ComicBook/ConanTheBarbarian comics, all the way back to a mention in one of Creator/RobertEHoward's Kull stories. The story was published in the 1960s, but could not have been written later than the mid-30s. This is also a case of AdaptationDisplacement.
5th Feb '16 12:22:21 PM StFan
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** Franchise/TheAvengers, or an Avengers-like team, is assembled by ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} to help stop villains instead of forming on its own. Sound familiar? Granted, it's regard by most fans as a DorkAge and hence most have chosen to forget about it, but ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'', which saw print in 1996, was the first to use the concept of S.H.I.E.L.D. being the ones to bring together the Avengers, five years before ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'' did it and 16 years before ''Film/TheAvengers'' movie used it (and that was likely borrowed from ''The Ultimates'').

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** Franchise/TheAvengers, or an Avengers-like team, is assembled by ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} to help stop villains instead of forming on its own. Sound familiar? Granted, it's regard by most fans as a DorkAge and hence most have chosen to forget about it, but ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'', which saw print in 1996, was the first to use the concept of S.H.I.E.L.D. being the ones to bring together the Avengers, five years before ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'' did it and 16 years before ''Film/TheAvengers'' ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' movie used it (and that was likely borrowed from ''The Ultimates'').
3rd Feb '16 3:06:13 PM LondonKdS
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* A [[TheCape lovable, idealistic]] young Muslim female Marvel superhero whose family relationships are deliberately warm and supportive, in opposition to anti-Muslim stereotype, and who is an unashamed fangirl of the older-established Marvel heroes? Could be [[ComicBook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]], but before her it was [[ComicBook/CaptainBritainAndMI13 Faiza Hussain]].

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* A [[TheCape lovable, idealistic]] young South Asian Muslim female Marvel superhero whose family relationships are deliberately warm and supportive, in opposition to anti-Muslim stereotype, and who is an unashamed fangirl of the older-established Marvel heroes? Could be [[ComicBook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]], but before her it was [[ComicBook/CaptainBritainAndMI13 Faiza Hussain]].
3rd Feb '16 2:41:41 AM LondonKdS
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* A [[TheCape lovable, idealistic]] young Muslim female Marvel superhero whose family relationships are deliberately warm and supportive, in opposition to anti-Muslim stereotype, and who is an unashamed fangirl of the older-established Marvel heroes? Could be [[ComicBook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]], but before her it was [[ComicBook/CaptainBritainAndMI13 Faiza Hussain]].
16th Jan '16 4:27:03 PM nombretomado
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* The Thing is often accused of being a ''[[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]]'' ripoff, which is quite an accomplishment, seeing as how the Thing was created first -- by the ''[[JackKirby same]] [[StanLee people]]''.

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* The Thing is often accused of being a ''[[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]]'' ripoff, which is quite an accomplishment, seeing as how the Thing was created first -- by the ''[[JackKirby same]] [[StanLee [[Creator/StanLee people]]''.



** The cover of ''Uncanny X-Men'' #136 (Cyclops holding Phoenix) may have been inspired by an older work of art, but it is sufficiently different from Michelangelo's Pietàs to be considered in a different category from them. (For starters, Cyclops is standing, not sitting). And the Pietà representation of Mary and Jesus had itself been used by plenty of sculptors for 150 years before Michelangelo was even born, to say nothing of not dissimilar artistic representations of other mothers with dead children dating back to pre-Christian times (e. g. Eos and her son Memnon, Niobe and one of her daughters).

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** The cover of ''Uncanny X-Men'' ''ComicBook/UncannyXMen'' #136 (Cyclops holding Phoenix) may have been inspired by an older work of art, but it is sufficiently different from Michelangelo's Pietàs to be considered in a different category from them. (For starters, Cyclops is standing, not sitting). And the Pietà representation of Mary and Jesus had itself been used by plenty of sculptors for 150 years before Michelangelo was even born, to say nothing of not dissimilar artistic representations of other mothers with dead children dating back to pre-Christian times (e. g. Eos and her son Memnon, Niobe and one of her daughters).
13th Jan '16 5:39:41 PM nombretomado
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* Imagine a team of proactive, even dictatorial JusticeLeagueOfAmerica {{Expy}}s using their power to [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans take over Earth]] in the wake of a catastrophic alien invasion. Sounds like ComicBook/TheAuthority if you were born after 1992, but [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Bronze Age]] readers will recognize it as the plot of Mark Gruenwald's masterpiece SquadronSupreme.

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* Imagine a team of proactive, even dictatorial JusticeLeagueOfAmerica {{Expy}}s using their power to [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans take over Earth]] in the wake of a catastrophic alien invasion. Sounds like ComicBook/TheAuthority if you were born after 1992, but [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Bronze Age]] readers will recognize it as the plot of Mark Gruenwald's masterpiece SquadronSupreme.ComicBook/SquadronSupreme.
12th Jan '16 2:53:23 PM eowynjedi
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* ''ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi'': The comic itself is the first EU appearance of the Old Republic Era (taking place 4,000 years before any of the films), but most fans know it from the ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' games, which were released around the time of the prequel films. It also contains the first appearance of the double-bladed lightsaber, the Jedi Council, and the Sith Rule of Two later seen in ''Film/StarWarsThePhantomMenace''.
28th Dec '15 4:08:45 PM Anddrix
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** There are some people who claimed Aldrich Killian from ''Film/IronMan3'' was a rip-off of Syndrome from ''The Incredibles'' because they both had similar StartOfDarkness moments. In reality, the "[[DisproportionateRetribution I'm a bad guy because the hero was a dick to me when we were younger]]" plot is a fairly standard stock supervillain origin, dating ''at least'' back to ComicBook/LexLuthor and DoctorDoom.

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** There are some people who claimed Aldrich Killian from ''Film/IronMan3'' was a rip-off of Syndrome from ''The Incredibles'' because they both had similar StartOfDarkness moments. In reality, the "[[DisproportionateRetribution I'm a bad guy because the hero was a dick to me when we were younger]]" plot is a fairly standard stock supervillain origin, dating ''at least'' back to ComicBook/LexLuthor and DoctorDoom.Doctor Doom.
13th Dec '15 8:20:58 PM nombretomado
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* Many people seem to think that ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} came before [[{{Sub-Mariner}} Namor the Sub-Mariner]], even though Namor predated him by two years. This may be because Namor went out of print during UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum, while Aquaman held on as an ''Action Comics'' backup.

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* Many people seem to think that ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} came before [[{{Sub-Mariner}} [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor the Sub-Mariner]], even though Namor predated him by two years. This may be because Namor went out of print during UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum, while Aquaman held on as an ''Action Comics'' backup.



* An aircraft pilot named Hal Jordan, appearing in a superhero comic book? It happened in a Golden Age [[Creator/MarvelComics Timely/Marvel]] comic book starring SubMariner, in 1945. Coincidentally (or not), [[http://marvel.wikia.com/Hal_Jordan_(Earth-616) his look]] is very simiar to his [[GreenLantern more famous namesake]]'s, who showed up 10 years after.

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* An aircraft pilot named Hal Jordan, appearing in a superhero comic book? It happened in a Golden Age [[Creator/MarvelComics Timely/Marvel]] comic book starring SubMariner, ComicBook/SubMariner, in 1945. Coincidentally (or not), [[http://marvel.wikia.com/Hal_Jordan_(Earth-616) his look]] is very simiar to his [[GreenLantern more famous namesake]]'s, who showed up 10 years after.
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