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* In ''WesternAnimation/MyAdventuresWithSuperman'', IronLady [[BlackBossLady Amanda Waller]] argues TheNeedsOfTheMany in Task Force X's mission to eradicate Superman, but her willingness to endanger civilians proves that she's lying to herself and simply has [[MoralMyopia tunnel vision on revenge against the being she believes]] [[BewareTheSuperman slaughtered her entire team on Zero Day]]. [[spoiler:To that end she deliberately threatens Metropolis and unleashes the empowered and now trained super criminals back onto the streets so she could pull a TyrantTakesTheHelm.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'': [[Characters/Invincible2021OmniMan Omni-Man]] reveals that he really came to Earth in order to facilitate an AlienInvasion by his home planet Viltrum, an [[TheEmpire intergalactic empire]] that dominated thousands of planets beforehand. He claims this is a good thing as the Viltrum empire can better the planet and protect it from danger…except the Viltrumites are shown to be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinists]] that only care about ruling over lesser species and putting down any resistance. Omni-Man himself murdered Earth’s mightiest heroes to make the planet easier to conquer, and he makes it clear that he'll slaughter countless more if there is opposition.

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* ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'': [[Characters/Invincible2021OmniMan Omni-Man]] reveals that he really came to Earth in order to facilitate an AlienInvasion by his home planet Viltrum, an [[TheEmpire intergalactic empire]] that dominated thousands of planets beforehand. He claims this is a good thing as the Viltrum empire can better the planet and protect it from danger…except the Viltrumites are shown to be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] ruthless [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinists]] that only care about ruling over lesser species and putting down any resistance. Omni-Man himself murdered Earth’s mightiest heroes to make the planet easier to conquer, and he makes it clear that he'll slaughter countless more if there is opposition.
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** [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEmperorBelos Emperor Belos]] is eventually revealed to be one. He claims his oppressive autocracy is necessary to protect the Boiling Isles' denizens from the alleged dangers of wild magic, and that he's the enforcement of the Titan's will, promising them that they'll ascend to paradise on the "Day of Unity" if they follow him. But the series keeps gradually dropping increasing hints that he's a power-hungry liar until the full truth is revealed in "Hollow Mind": [[spoiler:Belos is not even a witch, but is actually a WitchHunter from the Human Realm who has spent the last few centuries plotting to [[FinalSolution wipe out all of witchkind]] on the Day of Unity before returning to Earth as a "hero". And even then, it's explicitly spelled out by the Titan that Belos only really cares about [[HeroicWannabe playing the hero]], and would rather the Isles burn [[NeverMyFault than admit otherwise]]]].

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** [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEmperorBelos Emperor Belos]] is eventually revealed to be one. He claims his oppressive autocracy is necessary to protect the Boiling Isles' denizens from the alleged dangers of wild magic, and that he's the enforcement of the Titan's will, promising them that they'll ascend to paradise on the "Day of Unity" if they follow him. But the series keeps gradually dropping increasing hints that he's a power-hungry liar until the full truth is revealed in "Hollow Mind": [[spoiler:Belos is not even a witch, but is actually a WitchHunter [[TheWitchHunter Witch Hunter]] from the Human Realm who has spent the last few centuries plotting to [[FinalSolution wipe out all of witchkind]] on the Day of Unity before returning to Earth as a "hero". And even then, it's explicitly spelled out by the Titan that Belos only really cares about [[HeroicWannabe playing the hero]], and would rather the Isles burn [[NeverMyFault than admit otherwise]]]].
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* ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'': Omni-Man reveals that he really came to Earth in order to facilitate an AlienInvasion by his home planet Viltrum, an [[TheEmpire intergalactic empire]] that dominated thousands of planets beforehand. He claims this is a good thing as the Viltrum empire can better the planet and protect it from danger…except the Viltrumites are shown to be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinists]] that only care about ruling over lesser species and putting down any resistance. Omni-Man himself murdered Earth’s mightiest heroes to make the planet easier to conquer, and he makes it clear that he'll slaughter countless more if there is opposition.

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* ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'': Omni-Man [[Characters/Invincible2021OmniMan Omni-Man]] reveals that he really came to Earth in order to facilitate an AlienInvasion by his home planet Viltrum, an [[TheEmpire intergalactic empire]] that dominated thousands of planets beforehand. He claims this is a good thing as the Viltrum empire can better the planet and protect it from danger…except the Viltrumites are shown to be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinists]] that only care about ruling over lesser species and putting down any resistance. Omni-Man himself murdered Earth’s mightiest heroes to make the planet easier to conquer, and he makes it clear that he'll slaughter countless more if there is opposition.
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* ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'': Omni-Man reveals that he really came to Earth in order to facilitate an AlienInvasion by his home planet Viltrum. He claims this is a good thing as [[TheEmpire the Viltrumite empire]] can help protect Earth and make it into a utopia…except the Viltrumites are shown to be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinists]] that only care about dominating the galaxy and putting down any resistance. Omni-Man himself murdered Earth’s mightiest heroes to make the planet easier to conquer, and he makes it clear that he'll kill countless if there is opposition.

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* ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'': Omni-Man reveals that he really came to Earth in order to facilitate an AlienInvasion by his home planet Viltrum. Viltrum, an [[TheEmpire intergalactic empire]] that dominated thousands of planets beforehand. He claims this is a good thing as [[TheEmpire the Viltrumite empire]] Viltrum empire can help better the planet and protect Earth and make it into a utopia…except from danger…except the Viltrumites are shown to be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinists]] that only care about dominating the galaxy ruling over lesser species and putting down any resistance. Omni-Man himself murdered Earth’s mightiest heroes to make the planet easier to conquer, and he makes it clear that he'll kill slaughter countless more if there is opposition.
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* ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'': Omni-Man reveals that he really came to Earth in order to facilitate an AlienInvasion by his home planet Viltrum. He claims this is a good thing as [[TheEmpire the Viltrumite empire]] can help protect Earth and make it into a utopia…except the Viltrumites are shown to be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinists]] that only care about dominating the galaxy and putting down any resistance. Omni-Man himself murdered the Earth’s mightiest heroes to make the planet easier to conquer, and he makes it clear that he'll kill countless if there is opposition.

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* ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'': Omni-Man reveals that he really came to Earth in order to facilitate an AlienInvasion by his home planet Viltrum. He claims this is a good thing as [[TheEmpire the Viltrumite empire]] can help protect Earth and make it into a utopia…except the Viltrumites are shown to be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinists]] that only care about dominating the galaxy and putting down any resistance. Omni-Man himself murdered the Earth’s mightiest heroes to make the planet easier to conquer, and he makes it clear that he'll kill countless if there is opposition.
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* ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'': Omni-Man reveals that he really came to Earth in order to facilitate an AlienInvasion by his home planet Viltrum. He claims this is a good thing as [[TheEmpire the Viltrumite empire]] can help protect Earth and make it into a utopia…except the Viltrumites are shown to be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] [[TheSocialDarwinist social darwinists]] that only care about dominating the galaxy and putting down any resistance. Omni-Man himself murdered the Earth’s mightiest heroes to make the planet easier to conquer, and he makes it clear that he'll kill countless if there is opposition.
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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' has [[Characters/MiraculousLadybugHawkMoth Gabriel Agreste]], a dour and strict father who claims that he does everything he does for his son Adrien after his wife was put into a coma. It turns out that he's actually [[BigBad Hawk Moth]], who is trying to steal Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses in order to gain the power of CosmicRetcon so that he can heal Emilie by erasing whatever caused her to fall into her coma [[spoiler:due to overuse of the [[ToxicPhlebotinum damaged Peacock Miraculous]]]]. Gabriel's [[EvilIsHammy hammy demeanor as Hawk Moth]], however, is an early sign that he's enjoying his villainy far too much for that excuse to hold water. He allows his assistant Nathalie to help him as [[TheDragon Mayura]], despite [[spoiler:the Peacock Miraculous still being damaged]], and he only intermittently shows concern for her well-being. Furthermore, Adrien cannot remember him being anything but controlling, even before what happened to his mother. Finally, the events of both "Cat Blanc" and "Ephemeral" have shown that [[spoiler:if he knew Adrien was Cat Noir, he would have no objections to turning his own son into his latest pawn]]. No matter how much he claims his actions are for his family, Gabriel is [[SecretlySelfish only truly dedicated to his own self-interest]]. In "Evolution", [[spoiler:he has the perfect chance to save both Emilie and Nathalie, but passes it up to go after Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses. This causes Nathalie to angrily denounce Gabriel and refuse to help him any longer]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' has [[Characters/MiraculousLadybugHawkMoth Gabriel Agreste]], a dour and strict father who claims that he does everything he does for his son Adrien after his wife was put into a coma. It turns out that he's actually [[BigBad Hawk Moth]], who is trying to steal Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses in order to gain the power of CosmicRetcon so that he can heal Emilie by erasing whatever caused her to fall into her coma [[spoiler:due to overuse of the [[ToxicPhlebotinum damaged Peacock Miraculous]]]]. Gabriel's [[EvilIsHammy hammy demeanor as Hawk Moth]], however, is an early sign that he's enjoying his villainy far too much for that excuse to hold water. He allows his assistant Nathalie to help him as [[TheDragon Mayura]], despite [[spoiler:the Peacock Miraculous still being damaged]], and he only intermittently shows concern for her well-being. Furthermore, Adrien cannot remember him being anything but controlling, even before what happened to his mother. Finally, the events of both "Cat Blanc" and "Ephemeral" have shown that [[spoiler:if he knew Adrien was Cat Noir, he would have no objections to turning his own son into his latest pawn]]. No matter how much he claims his actions are for his family, Gabriel is [[SecretlySelfish only truly dedicated to his own self-interest]]. In "Evolution", [[spoiler:he has the perfect chance to save both Emilie and Nathalie, but passes it up to go after Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses. This causes Nathalie to angrily denounce Gabriel and refuse to help him any longer]]. This becomes [[HazyFeelTurn very ambiguous]] come the Season 5 finale, however, [[spoiler:where Gabriel actually does finally manage to get the Miraculouses and make his CosmicRetcon wish, choosing to sacrifice ''himself'' as the price for healing Emilie and Nathalie.]] However, in order to do this he notably [[RedemptionRejection threw away of a direct offer of redemption from Marinette]], making it unclear if [[spoiler:he viewed himself as BeyondRedemption or simply wanted to go out on his own terms without facing proper punishment.]]
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** [[spoiler: [[Characters/AmphibiaTheCore The Core]], on the other hand, is this played straight. As the collective consciousness of all past rulers of Amphibia, including Andrias' father Aldrich, it boasts their continued intent to use the stones in their goals of being a MultiversalConqueror as a means to aid their world of Amphibia by stripping other worlds of their resources, their decades of familial abuse, encouraging bigotry towards other amphibians and draining their own world's natural resources paint it clear that it only wants power. This is evident, as Darcy, it shows sadistic pleasure in attacking Earth. Once its plans are thwarted, the Core attempts to destroy the entire planet by [[ColonyDrop ramming the moon into it]] out of spite.]]

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** [[spoiler: [[Characters/AmphibiaTheCore The Core]], on the other hand, is this played straight. As the collective consciousness of all past rulers of Amphibia, including Andrias' father Aldrich, it boasts their continued intent to use the stones in their goals of being a MultiversalConqueror as a means to aid their world of Amphibia by Amphibia; however, their stripping other worlds of their resources, their decades of familial abuse, encouraging bigotry towards other amphibians amphibians, and draining their own world's natural resources paint it a clear picture that it only wants power. power and glory for its own sake. This is evident, evident when, as Darcy, it shows sadistic pleasure in attacking Earth. Once its plans are thwarted, the Core attempts to destroy the entire planet by [[ColonyDrop ramming the moon into it]] out of spite.]]
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** Viren, in the interests of "protecting humanity", has betrayed his best friend Harrow, convinced him to kill the Dragon King, wanted to kill the princes of Katolis so he could seize power, drove his own son away, and waged war against Xadia. He claimed everything he did was to protect humanity, but in reality his cause is rooted in paranoia, xenophobia, and his own desire for power. He uses this as an excuse to conquer Xadia, vaguely asserting it's necessary for "Humanity to flourish", which Aaravos lampshades when trying to get Viren to admit that he really seeks to rule/conquer Xadia.
** Averted later on in Books 4 and 5, when Viren realizes the error of his ways and simply seeks to spend his remaining life with his daughter.

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** Viren, [[Characters/TheDragonPrinceViren Lord Viren]], in the interests of "protecting humanity", has betrayed his best friend Harrow, convinced him to kill the Dragon King, wanted to kill the princes of Katolis so he could seize power, drove his own son away, and waged war against Xadia. He claimed everything he did was to protect humanity, but in reality his cause is rooted in paranoia, xenophobia, and his own desire for power. He uses this as an excuse to conquer Xadia, vaguely asserting it's necessary for "Humanity to flourish", which Aaravos lampshades when trying to get Viren to admit that he really seeks to rule/conquer Xadia.
** *** Averted later on in Books 4 and 5, when Viren realizes the error of his ways and simply seeks to spend his remaining life with his daughter.
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** Viren is a human supremacist terrorist that betrayed his best friend Harrow, wanted to kill the princes of Katolis and Xadia and engage war against Xadia, claiming is all to protect humanity, but in reality his cause is based on lies, paranoia and assuming the worst of elves and dragons, he uses this as an excuse to kill and exploit all the magic creatures he wants as he doesn't care for the consequences of doing so, he also does this to deny is his fault he made everything worse with dark magic, he is also hypocritically willing to kill any human that defies and critizices him, he made a false flag attack on the human kingdoms to launch war when the human kings didn't believed him that Xadia will exterminate them.
** Ironically he succeded in securing a better future for humanity by having humans turning against him and uniting with Xadians to kill him and stop him from making an endless war for his hubris, and stop him from killing innocent Xadians and wildlife from his greed.
** Claudia is following Viren's footsteps in his quest to conquer Xadia, she initially didn't do it out of bias against Xadia but because of blindly believing her dad is right and she still believes it, to the point to betray her friends and help him kill Zym whom she adores, she continues to do struggles to follow Viren's agenda, despite that everyone else is telling her that Viren only cares for his ego, and even Viren told her that he doesn't want to conquer Xadia anymore.

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** Viren is a human supremacist terrorist that Viren, in the interests of "protecting humanity", has betrayed his best friend Harrow, convinced him to kill the Dragon King, wanted to kill the princes of Katolis so he could seize power, drove his own son away, and Xadia and engage waged war against Xadia, claiming is all Xadia. He claimed everything he did was to protect humanity, but in reality his cause is based on lies, paranoia rooted in paranoia, xenophobia, and assuming the worst of elves and dragons, he his own desire for power. He uses this as an excuse to kill and exploit all the magic creatures he wants as he doesn't care for the consequences of doing so, he also does this to deny is his fault he made everything worse with dark magic, he is also hypocritically willing to kill any human that defies and critizices him, he made a false flag attack on the human kingdoms to launch war when the human kings didn't believed him that Xadia will exterminate them.
** Ironically he succeded in securing a better future for humanity by having humans turning against him and uniting with Xadians to kill him and stop him from making an endless war for his hubris, and stop him from killing innocent Xadians and wildlife from his greed.
** Claudia is following Viren's footsteps in his quest to
conquer Xadia, she initially vaguely asserting it's necessary for "Humanity to flourish", which Aaravos lampshades when trying to get Viren to admit that he really seeks to rule/conquer Xadia.
** Averted later on in Books 4 and 5, when Viren realizes the error of his ways and simply seeks to spend his remaining life with his daughter.
** Sol Regem fits this trope as well. While Sol Regem asserted that Dark Magic was immoral and demanded it cease, threatening to slaughter an entire city of innocent humans if they
didn't do give it out of bias against Xadia but up, he also claims that humans are "lesser beings" because of blindly believing her dad is right and she still believes it, to the point to betray her friends and help him kill Zym whom she adores, she continues to do struggles to follow Viren's agenda, despite that everyone else is telling her that Viren only cares for his ego, and even Viren told her they don't have magic, demonstrating that he doesn't want to conquer Xadia anymore.wasn't just acting out of moral opposition, but xenophobia and magical supremacy as well.
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** [[spoiler:King Andrias]] turns out to be one in the Season 2 finale [[spoiler:only to then subvert it in Season 3. He might put on airs that he's looking out for Amphibia's interests in using the Calamity Box's powers to invade other worlds and harvest the resources for their own use, but it's clear that while this is indeed the goal of the Core, Andrias himself is just a tool to carry out their will and deep down he's really more ambivalent on the whole thing and [[BeingEvilSucks hates what he's lost in pursuit of it]], but continues to spout the lines because he [[WellDoneSonGuy still wants the Core's (i.e., his ancestors' and especially his father's) approval]] and that [[IveComeTooFar trying to go against it after so long is meaningless]].]]
** [[spoiler:The Core, on the other hand, is this played straight. As the collective consciousness of all past rulers of Amphibia, including Andrias' father Aldrich, it boasts their continued intent to use the stones in their goals of being a MultiversalConqueror as a means to aid their world of Amphibia by stripping other worlds of their resources, their decades of familial abuse, encouraging bigotry towards other amphibians and draining their own world's natural resources paint it clear that it only wants power. This is evident, as Darcy, it shows sadistic pleasure in attacking Earth. Once its plans are thwarted, the Core attempts to destroy the entire planet by [[ColonyDrop ramming the moon into it]] out of spite.]]

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** [[spoiler:King Andrias]] [[spoiler: [[Characters/AmphibiaKingAndrias King Andrias]]]] turns out to be one in the Season 2 finale [[spoiler:only to then subvert it in Season 3. He might put on airs that he's looking out for Amphibia's interests in using the Calamity Box's powers to invade other worlds and harvest the resources for their own use, but it's clear that while this is indeed the goal of the Core, Andrias himself is just a tool to carry out their will and deep down he's really more ambivalent on the whole thing and [[BeingEvilSucks hates what he's lost in pursuit of it]], but continues to spout the lines because he [[WellDoneSonGuy still wants the Core's (i.e., his ancestors' and especially his father's) approval]] and that [[IveComeTooFar trying to go against it after so long is meaningless]].]]
** [[spoiler:The Core, [[spoiler: [[Characters/AmphibiaTheCore The Core]], on the other hand, is this played straight. As the collective consciousness of all past rulers of Amphibia, including Andrias' father Aldrich, it boasts their continued intent to use the stones in their goals of being a MultiversalConqueror as a means to aid their world of Amphibia by stripping other worlds of their resources, their decades of familial abuse, encouraging bigotry towards other amphibians and draining their own world's natural resources paint it clear that it only wants power. This is evident, as Darcy, it shows sadistic pleasure in attacking Earth. Once its plans are thwarted, the Core attempts to destroy the entire planet by [[ColonyDrop ramming the moon into it]] out of spite.]]



** Bradford Buzzard claims that the entire purpose of F.O.W.L. is to take the [=McDuck=] family out of the picture due to the fact that their many adventures have regularly put the world at risk. Then "The Last Adventure!" came around and did away with any good intentions he might've had; he's fully willing to eliminate children and innocents to reach his goals, he backstabs his allies the second Scrooge points out he'd be a hypocrite to keep working with them, and even forces Scrooge into signing the Papyrus of Binding by threatening to erase Donald from existence and then tries to do so anyway after Scrooge signs it. [[spoiler: Top all that off with TheReveal that A) him getting dragged along on Isabella Finch's expeditions gave him a lifelong hatred of anything adventurous and B) he was the one who told Della about the Spear of Selene (which is the direct cause of both of the conflicts of the past two seasons), and it paints a clear picture of Bradford being little more than a [[TautologicalTemplar self-righteous]] villain lashing out in an attempt to give himself some emotional security.]]

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** [[Characters/DuckTales2017BradfordBuzzard Bradford Buzzard Buzzard]] claims that the entire purpose of F.O.W.L. is to take the [=McDuck=] family out of the picture due to the fact that their many adventures have regularly put the world at risk. Then "The Last Adventure!" came around and did away with any good intentions he might've had; he's fully willing to eliminate children and innocents to reach his goals, he backstabs his allies the second Scrooge points out he'd be a hypocrite to keep working with them, and even forces Scrooge into signing the Papyrus of Binding by threatening to erase Donald from existence and then tries to do so anyway after Scrooge signs it. [[spoiler: Top all that off with TheReveal that A) him getting dragged along on Isabella Finch's expeditions gave him a lifelong hatred of anything adventurous and B) he was the one who told Della about the Spear of Selene (which is the direct cause of both of the conflicts of the past two seasons), and it paints a clear picture of Bradford being little more than a [[TautologicalTemplar self-righteous]] villain lashing out in an attempt to give himself some emotional security.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'': Bill Cipher claims he wants to [[spoiler:liberate the heroes' dimension and make it a fun world with no rules or restrictions. However, that would [[RealityWarpingIsNotAToy render it pure chaos inhospitable to non-demonic life]], and it and his Weirdmageddon back in his own decaying world is heavily implied to be why it's decaying in the first place. Considering his sadism and how he admits he's [[TheMadHatter insane]] and [[CardCarryingVillain wicked]] either way, it's very likely his claim is just an excuse [[ItsAllAboutMe for his own enjoyment]].]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'': [[Characters/GravityFallsBillCipher Bill Cipher Cipher]] claims he wants to [[spoiler:liberate the heroes' dimension and make it a fun world with no rules or restrictions. However, that would [[RealityWarpingIsNotAToy render it pure chaos inhospitable to non-demonic life]], and it and his Weirdmageddon back in his own decaying world is heavily implied to be why it's decaying in the first place. Considering his sadism and how he admits he's [[TheMadHatter insane]] and [[CardCarryingVillain wicked]] either way, it's very likely his claim is just an excuse [[ItsAllAboutMe for his own enjoyment]].]]



* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' has Gabriel Agreste, a dour and strict father who claims that he does everything he does for his son Adrien after his wife was put into a coma. It turns out that he's actually [[BigBad Hawk Moth]], who is trying to steal Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses in order to gain the power of CosmicRetcon so that he can heal Emilie by erasing whatever caused her to fall into her coma [[spoiler:due to overuse of the [[ToxicPhlebotinum damaged Peacock Miraculous]]]]. Gabriel's [[EvilIsHammy hammy demeanor as Hawk Moth]], however, is an early sign that he's enjoying his villainy far too much for that excuse to hold water. He allows his assistant Nathalie to help him as [[TheDragon Mayura]], despite [[spoiler:the Peacock Miraculous still being damaged]], and he only intermittently shows concern for her well-being. Furthermore, Adrien cannot remember him being anything but controlling, even before what happened to his mother. Finally, the events of both "Cat Blanc" and "Ephemeral" have shown that [[spoiler:if he knew Adrien was Cat Noir, he would have no objections to turning his own son into his latest pawn]]. No matter how much he claims his actions are for his family, Gabriel is [[SecretlySelfish only truly dedicated to his own self-interest]]. In "Evolution", [[spoiler:he has the perfect chance to save both Emilie and Nathalie, but passes it up to go after Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses. This causes Nathalie to angrily denounce Gabriel and refuse to help him any longer]].
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Queen Chrysalis claims right away that as the Changeling queen, it's her job to feed her people with the love energy of others. However, her true motive is to conquer Equestria for the power that she herself craves and has conditioned her people to think taking love is how to be fulfilled when it really doesn't. When the changelings realize that she truly cares only about herself and not them, they waste no time turning on her to gain their better forms and becoming allies to Equestria under the leadership of the truly benevolent King Thorax.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' has [[Characters/MiraculousLadybugHawkMoth Gabriel Agreste, Agreste]], a dour and strict father who claims that he does everything he does for his son Adrien after his wife was put into a coma. It turns out that he's actually [[BigBad Hawk Moth]], who is trying to steal Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses in order to gain the power of CosmicRetcon so that he can heal Emilie by erasing whatever caused her to fall into her coma [[spoiler:due to overuse of the [[ToxicPhlebotinum damaged Peacock Miraculous]]]]. Gabriel's [[EvilIsHammy hammy demeanor as Hawk Moth]], however, is an early sign that he's enjoying his villainy far too much for that excuse to hold water. He allows his assistant Nathalie to help him as [[TheDragon Mayura]], despite [[spoiler:the Peacock Miraculous still being damaged]], and he only intermittently shows concern for her well-being. Furthermore, Adrien cannot remember him being anything but controlling, even before what happened to his mother. Finally, the events of both "Cat Blanc" and "Ephemeral" have shown that [[spoiler:if he knew Adrien was Cat Noir, he would have no objections to turning his own son into his latest pawn]]. No matter how much he claims his actions are for his family, Gabriel is [[SecretlySelfish only truly dedicated to his own self-interest]]. In "Evolution", [[spoiler:he has the perfect chance to save both Emilie and Nathalie, but passes it up to go after Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses. This causes Nathalie to angrily denounce Gabriel and refuse to help him any longer]].
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': [[Characters/FriendshipIsMagicQueenChrysalis Queen Chrysalis Chrysalis]] claims right away that as the Changeling queen, it's her job to feed her people with the love energy of others. However, her true motive is to conquer Equestria for the power that she herself craves and has conditioned her people to think taking love is how to be fulfilled when it really doesn't. When the changelings realize that she truly cares only about herself and not them, they waste no time turning on her to gain their better forms and becoming allies to Equestria under the leadership of the truly benevolent King Thorax.



** Emperor Belos is eventually revealed to be one. He claims his oppressive autocracy is necessary to protect the Boiling Isles' denizens from the alleged dangers of wild magic, and that he's the enforcement of the Titan's will, promising them that they'll ascend to paradise on the "Day of Unity" if they follow him. But the series keeps gradually dropping increasing hints that he's a power-hungry liar until the full truth is revealed in "Hollow Mind": [[spoiler:Belos is not even a witch, but is actually a WitchHunter from the Human Realm who has spent the last few centuries plotting to [[FinalSolution wipe out all of witchkind]] on the Day of Unity before returning to Earth as a "hero". And even then, it's explicitly spelled out by the Titan that Belos only really cares about [[HeroicWannabe playing the hero]], and would rather the Isles burn [[NeverMyFault than admit otherwise]]]].

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** [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEmperorBelos Emperor Belos Belos]] is eventually revealed to be one. He claims his oppressive autocracy is necessary to protect the Boiling Isles' denizens from the alleged dangers of wild magic, and that he's the enforcement of the Titan's will, promising them that they'll ascend to paradise on the "Day of Unity" if they follow him. But the series keeps gradually dropping increasing hints that he's a power-hungry liar until the full truth is revealed in "Hollow Mind": [[spoiler:Belos is not even a witch, but is actually a WitchHunter from the Human Realm who has spent the last few centuries plotting to [[FinalSolution wipe out all of witchkind]] on the Day of Unity before returning to Earth as a "hero". And even then, it's explicitly spelled out by the Titan that Belos only really cares about [[HeroicWannabe playing the hero]], and would rather the Isles burn [[NeverMyFault than admit otherwise]]]].



* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'': Evil Morty's goal of bringing down the Central Finite Curve is, on paper, the objectively right thing to do. The Citadel of Ricks built a wall around infinity so the only alternate realities they had to coexist with were all ones where Rick was the smartest man in the universe, giving them free reign to play God in their corners of the multiverse as well as literally engineer Mortys to sell to other Ricks as disposable sidekicks. Doing gruesome things in the name of that goal could be seen as well-intentioned, except Evil Morty only cares about getting freedom for himself, not for any other person who's also been victimized by the system he's bringing down.

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* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'': [[Characters/RickAndMortyEvilMorty Evil Morty's Morty's]] goal of bringing down the Central Finite Curve is, on paper, the objectively right thing to do. The Citadel of Ricks built a wall around infinity so the only alternate realities they had to coexist with were all ones where Rick was the smartest man in the universe, giving them free reign to play God in their corners of the multiverse as well as literally engineer Mortys to sell to other Ricks as disposable sidekicks. Doing gruesome things in the name of that goal could be seen as well-intentioned, except Evil Morty only cares about getting freedom for himself, not for any other person who's also been victimized by the system he's bringing down.



* ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'': While [[TheChessmaster Toffee]] was implied to have once had good intentions in the form of wanting to liberate his monster brethren from oppression on Mewni, these seem to be completely gone by the present in favor of revenge. Even then, it's eventually revealed he murdered Comet more out of hatred than her having actually done anything wrong, as she was probably the single most pro-monster queen other than Eclipsa and genuinely trying to give the monsters racial equality.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'': While [[TheChessmaster [[Characters/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilToffee Toffee]] was implied to have once had good intentions in the form of wanting to liberate his monster brethren from oppression on Mewni, these seem to be completely gone by the present in favor of revenge. Even then, it's eventually revealed he murdered Comet more out of hatred than her having actually done anything wrong, as she was probably the single most pro-monster queen other than Eclipsa and genuinely trying to give the monsters racial equality.



** Lampshaded when Eric Cartman dons his superhero alter-ego, the Coon, and commits several atrocities with [[DidYouJustScamCthulhu Cthulhu's help]]. Kenny, AKA Mysterion, immediately calls him out on it.

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** Lampshaded when [[Characters/SouthParkEricCartman Eric Cartman Cartman]] dons his superhero alter-ego, the Coon, and commits several atrocities with [[DidYouJustScamCthulhu Cthulhu's help]]. Kenny, AKA Mysterion, immediately calls him out on it.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': [[spoiler:King Andrias]] turns out to be one in the Season 2 finale [[spoiler:only to then subvert it in Season 3. He might put on airs that he's looking out for Amphibia's interests in using the Calamity Box's powers to invade other worlds and harvest the resources for their own use, but it's clear the resource-harvesting is just a cover for being and continuing to be a MultiversalConqueror able to lord over others. And then it becomes clear that while that is indeed the goal of the Core, Andrias himself is just a tool to carry out their will and deep down he's really more ambivalent on the whole thing and [[BeingEvilSucks hates what he's lost in pursuit of it]], but continues to spout the lines because he [[WellDoneSonGuy still wants the Core's (i.e., his ancestors' and especially his father's) approval]] and that [[IveComeTooFar trying to go against it after so long is meaningless]].]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'':
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[[spoiler:King Andrias]] turns out to be one in the Season 2 finale [[spoiler:only to then subvert it in Season 3. He might put on airs that he's looking out for Amphibia's interests in using the Calamity Box's powers to invade other worlds and harvest the resources for their own use, but it's clear the resource-harvesting is just a cover for being and continuing to be a MultiversalConqueror able to lord over others. And then it becomes clear that while that this is indeed the goal of the Core, Andrias himself is just a tool to carry out their will and deep down he's really more ambivalent on the whole thing and [[BeingEvilSucks hates what he's lost in pursuit of it]], but continues to spout the lines because he [[WellDoneSonGuy still wants the Core's (i.e., his ancestors' and especially his father's) approval]] and that [[IveComeTooFar trying to go against it after so long is meaningless]].]]
** [[spoiler:The Core, on the other hand, is this played straight. As the collective consciousness of all past rulers of Amphibia, including Andrias' father Aldrich, it boasts their continued intent to use the stones in their goals of being a MultiversalConqueror as a means to aid their world of Amphibia by stripping other worlds of their resources, their decades of familial abuse, encouraging bigotry towards other amphibians and draining their own world's natural resources paint it clear that it only wants power. This is evident, as Darcy, it shows sadistic pleasure in attacking Earth. Once its plans are thwarted, the Core attempts to destroy the entire planet by [[ColonyDrop ramming the moon into it]] out of spite.
]]



** Demona's biggest flaw aside from her NeverMyFault tendencies is her ongoing delusion that her paranoia against humankind is justified. The show demonstrates Demona is simply an utterly vengeful, bitter woman lashing out from centuries of [[TragicVillain isolation]] and [[NeverMyFault denial]], and she's more concerned with having a scapegoat for her sins so she can keep being the victim.
*** Demona's spent centuries clinging to the belief both her clans were destroyed because of humans and thinks she's reclaiming the Earth for gargoyles by trying to kill every human on the planet. While it's true gargoyles have suffered a lot thinks to human intolerance, they've suffered just as much thanks to Demona's backstabbing. Her original clan was destroyed because she helped betray Wyvern Castle to the viking invaders, and her second clan was destroyed because she allied with Canmore thinking Macbeth was about to betray her first. Both times happened because Demona automatically assumed the worst and acted without any perspective, but she still insists she did nothing wrong.
*** When the trickster Puck deliberately misconstrues Demona's genocidal wish to be rid of humans by turning all humans into gargoyles, instead of being thrilled that her kind is now finally the dominant species, she's disgusted humans have been granted the gift of being a gargoyle. Demona simply cannot let go of wanting humans to die even when she's finally gained the world she proclaims she's been fighting for.

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** Demona's biggest flaw aside from her NeverMyFault tendencies is her ongoing delusion that her paranoia against humankind is justified. The show demonstrates Demona is simply an utterly vengeful, bitter woman lashing out from centuries of [[TragicVillain isolation]] and [[NeverMyFault denial]], and she's more concerned with having a scapegoat for her sins so she can keep being the victim.
*** Demona's spent centuries clinging to
victim. She has blamed humanity for all of the belief both her betrayals that have fallen the two clans she was part of, not recognizing those betrayals were destroyed because of humans and thinks she's reclaiming the Earth for gargoyles by trying due to kill every human on the planet. While it's true gargoyles have suffered a lot thinks to human intolerance, they've suffered just as much thanks to Demona's backstabbing. Her original clan was destroyed because she helped betray Wyvern Castle to the viking invaders, and her second clan was destroyed because she allied with Canmore thinking Macbeth was about to betray her first. Both times happened because Demona automatically assumed the worst and acted without any perspective, but she still insists she did nothing wrong.
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own distrust towards humans. When the trickster Puck deliberately misconstrues Demona's genocidal wish to be rid of humans by turning all humans into gargoyles, instead of being thrilled that her kind is now finally the dominant species, she's disgusted humans have been granted the gift of being a gargoyle. Demona simply cannot let go of wanting humans to die even when she's finally gained the world she proclaims she's been fighting for.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': [[spoiler: [[Characters/AmphibiaKingAndrias King Andrias]]]] turns out to be one in the Season 2 finale [[spoiler:only to then subvert it in Season 3. He might put on airs that he's looking out for Amphibia's interests in using the Calamity Box's powers to invade other worlds and harvest the resources for their own use, but it's clear the resource-harvesting is just a cover for being and continuing to be a MultiversalConqueror able to lord over others. And then it becomes clear that while that is indeed the goal of [[Characters/AmphibiaTheCore The Core]], Andrias himself is just a tool to carry out their will and deep down he's really more ambivalent on the whole thing and [[BeingEvilSucks hates what he's lost in pursuit of it]], but continues to spout the lines because he [[WellDoneSonGuy still wants the Core's (i.e. his ancestors' and especially his father's) approval]] and that [[IveComeTooFar trying to go against it after so long is meaningless]].]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': [[spoiler: [[Characters/AmphibiaKingAndrias King Andrias]]]] [[spoiler:King Andrias]] turns out to be one in the Season 2 finale [[spoiler:only to then subvert it in Season 3. He might put on airs that he's looking out for Amphibia's interests in using the Calamity Box's powers to invade other worlds and harvest the resources for their own use, but it's clear the resource-harvesting is just a cover for being and continuing to be a MultiversalConqueror able to lord over others. And then it becomes clear that while that is indeed the goal of [[Characters/AmphibiaTheCore The Core]], the Core, Andrias himself is just a tool to carry out their will and deep down he's really more ambivalent on the whole thing and [[BeingEvilSucks hates what he's lost in pursuit of it]], but continues to spout the lines because he [[WellDoneSonGuy still wants the Core's (i.e. , his ancestors' and especially his father's) approval]] and that [[IveComeTooFar trying to go against it after so long is meaningless]].]]



* ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'': During the two-part premiere episode of the fifth season, ComicBook/LexLuthor puts Franchise/{{Superman}} under his control to help in his plan to control Earth's defense systems. Since an AlienInvasion took place previously, he insists that this is to make sure no one tries to take over the world. Batman points out the one hypocritical point of his plan: Lex is basically trying to TakeOverTheWorld himself since this involves robots that destroy foreign military bases that step out of line. Lex half-heartedly defends himself by saying that "someone has to be in charge".

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'': During the two-part premiere episode of the fifth season, ComicBook/LexLuthor Lex Luthor puts Franchise/{{Superman}} Superman under his control to help in his plan to control Earth's defense systems. Since an AlienInvasion took place previously, he insists that this is to make sure no one tries to take over the world. Batman points out the one hypocritical point of his plan: Lex is basically trying to TakeOverTheWorld himself since this involves robots that destroy foreign military bases that step out of line. Lex half-heartedly defends himself by saying that "someone has to be in charge".



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Castlevania 2017}}'':
** [[Characters/Castlevania2017Dracula Dracula]] remains a lot more sympathetic than most examples in spite of this trope. The majority of his War Council join his KillAllHumans campaign believing they'll get to rule the world once humanity's been eradicated, and both of Dracula's Forgemasters are respectively convinced that Dracula will make the world a better place by removing human cruelty. In actuality, Dracula's campaign is at its heart just a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum, and Dracula wholly expects the vampires, himself included, to follow humanity to the grave.
** [[Characters/Castlevania2017Antagonists The Bishop]] abuses his authority to use anyone fighting Dracula's monsters not affiliated with the Church as scapegoats to his denial that Dracula's rampage was his fault, even though Dracula said ''to his face'' that it was due to the Bishop ordering his wife Lisa burned at the stake. He also seems fine with all the murder as it gives him a higher standing in the Church with fewer people. Ultimately his supposed goal of helping the people are just hollow lies to get away with murder and heartlessness. [[spoiler:In the end, he's killed by the demon Blue Fangs, who tells him point-blank that his KnightTemplar ways have desanctified his Church and [[GodIsDispleased caused God to turn His back on him]].]]

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** [[Characters/Castlevania2017Dracula Dracula]] Dracula remains a lot more sympathetic than most examples in spite of this trope. The majority of his War Council join his KillAllHumans campaign believing they'll get to rule the world once humanity's been eradicated, and both of Dracula's Forgemasters are respectively convinced that Dracula will make the world a better place by removing human cruelty. In actuality, Dracula's campaign is at its heart just a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum, and Dracula wholly expects the vampires, himself included, to follow humanity to the grave.
** [[Characters/Castlevania2017Antagonists The Bishop]] Bishop abuses his authority to use anyone fighting Dracula's monsters not affiliated with the Church as scapegoats to his denial that Dracula's rampage was his fault, even though Dracula said ''to his face'' that it was due to the Bishop ordering his wife Lisa burned at the stake. He also seems fine with all the murder as it gives him a higher standing in the Church with fewer people. Ultimately his supposed goal of helping the people are just hollow lies to get away with murder and heartlessness. [[spoiler:In the end, he's killed by the demon Blue Fangs, who tells him point-blank that his KnightTemplar ways have desanctified his Church and [[GodIsDispleased caused God to turn His back on him]].]]



** [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEmperorBelos Emperor Belos]] is eventually revealed to be one. He claims his oppressive autocracy is necessary to protect the Boiling Isles' denizens from the alleged dangers of wild magic, and that he's the enforcement of the Titan's will, promising them that they'll ascend to paradise on the "Day of Unity" if they follow him. But the series keeps gradually dropping increasing hints that he's a power-hungry liar until the full truth is revealed in "Hollow Mind": [[spoiler: Belos is not even a witch, but is actually a WitchHunter from the Human Realm who has spent the last few centuries plotting to [[FinalSolution wipe out all of witchkind]] on the Day of Unity before returning to Earth as a "hero". And even then, it's explicitly spelled out by the Titan that Belos only really cares about [[HeroicWannabe playing the hero]], and would rather the Isles burn [[NeverMyFault than admit otherwise]]]].

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** [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEmperorBelos Emperor Belos]] Belos is eventually revealed to be one. He claims his oppressive autocracy is necessary to protect the Boiling Isles' denizens from the alleged dangers of wild magic, and that he's the enforcement of the Titan's will, promising them that they'll ascend to paradise on the "Day of Unity" if they follow him. But the series keeps gradually dropping increasing hints that he's a power-hungry liar until the full truth is revealed in "Hollow Mind": [[spoiler: Belos [[spoiler:Belos is not even a witch, but is actually a WitchHunter from the Human Realm who has spent the last few centuries plotting to [[FinalSolution wipe out all of witchkind]] on the Day of Unity before returning to Earth as a "hero". And even then, it's explicitly spelled out by the Titan that Belos only really cares about [[HeroicWannabe playing the hero]], and would rather the Isles burn [[NeverMyFault than admit otherwise]]]].



* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty:'' Evil Morty's goal of bringing down the Central Finite Curve is, on paper, the objectively right thing to do. The Citadel of Ricks built a wall around infinity so the only alternate realities they had to coexist with were all ones where Rick was the smartest man in the universe, giving them free reign to play God in their corners of the multiverse as well as literally engineer Mortys to sell to other Ricks as disposable sidekicks. Doing gruesome things in the name of that goal could be seen as well-intentioned, except Evil Morty only cares about getting freedom for himself, not for any other person who's also been victimized by the system he's bringing down.

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* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty:'' ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'': Evil Morty's goal of bringing down the Central Finite Curve is, on paper, the objectively right thing to do. The Citadel of Ricks built a wall around infinity so the only alternate realities they had to coexist with were all ones where Rick was the smartest man in the universe, giving them free reign to play God in their corners of the multiverse as well as literally engineer Mortys to sell to other Ricks as disposable sidekicks. Doing gruesome things in the name of that goal could be seen as well-intentioned, except Evil Morty only cares about getting freedom for himself, not for any other person who's also been victimized by the system he's bringing down.



--->'''Cartman:''' I'm making the world a better place.
--->'''Mysterion:''' For ''you!'' You're making the world a better place for ''you!''
--->'''Cartman:''' ...[[EvilCannotComprehendGood Right, that's what superheroes]] ''[[EvilCannotComprehendGood do]]''.

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--->'''Cartman:''' I'm making the world a better place.
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place.\\
'''Mysterion:'''
For ''you!'' You're making the world a better place for ''you!''
--->'''Cartman:''' ...
''you!''\\
'''Cartman:''' ...
[[EvilCannotComprehendGood Right, that's what superheroes]] ''[[EvilCannotComprehendGood do]]''.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheDragonPrince'':
** Viren is a human supremacist terrorist that betrayed his best friend Harrow, wanted to kill the princes of Katolis and Xadia and engage war against Xadia, claiming is all to protect humanity, but in reality his cause is based on lies, paranoia and assuming the worst of elves and dragons, he uses this as an excuse to kill and exploit all the magic creatures he wants as he doesn't care for the consequences of doing so, he also does this to deny is his fault he made everything worse with dark magic, he is also hypocritically willing to kill any human that defies and critizices him, he made a false flag attack on the human kingdoms to launch war when the human kings didn't believed him that Xadia will exterminate them.
** Ironically he succeded in securing a better future for humanity by having humans turning against him and uniting with Xadians to kill him and stop him from making an endless war for his hubris, and stop him from killing innocent Xadians and wildlife from his greed.
** Claudia is following Viren's footsteps in his quest to conquer Xadia, she initially didn't do it out of bias against Xadia but because of blindly believing her dad is right and she still believes it, to the point to betray her friends and help him kill Zym whom she adores, she continues to do struggles to follow Viren's agenda, despite that everyone else is telling her that Viren only cares for his ego, and even Viren told her that he doesn't want to conquer Xadia anymore.



* In ''WesternAnimation/TheDragonPrince''
** Viren is a human supremacist terrorist that betrayed his best friend Harrow, wanted to kill the princes of Katolis and Xadia and engage war against Xadia, claiming is all to protect humanity, but in reality his cause is based on lies, paranoia and assuming the worst of elves and dragons, he uses this as an excuse to kill and exploit all the magic creatures he wants as he doesn't care for the consequences of doing so, he also does this to deny is his fault he made everything worse with dark magic, he is also hypocritically willing to kill any human that defies and critizices him, he made a false flag attack on the human kingdoms to launch war when the human kings didn't believed him that Xadia will exterminate them
** Ironically he succeded in securing a better future for humanity by having humans turning against him and uniting with Xadians to kill him and stop him from making an endless war for his hubris, and stop him from killing innocent Xadians and wildlife from his greed
** Claudia is following Viren's footsteps in his quest to conquer Xadia, she initially didn't do it out of bias against Xadia but because of blindly believing her dad is right and she still believes it, to the point to betray her friends and help him kill Zym whom she adores, she continues to do struggles to follow Viren's agenda, despite that everyone else is telling her that Viren only cares for his ego, and even Viren told her that he doesn't want to conquer Xadia anymore
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** Viren is a human supremacist terrorist that betrayed his best friend Harrow, wanted to kill the princes of Katolis and Xadia and engage war against Xadia, claiming is all to protect humanity, but in reality his cause is based on lies, paranoia and assuming the worst of elves and dragons, he uses this as an excuse to kill and exploit all the magic creatures he wants as he doesn't care for the consequences of doing so, he also does this to deny is his fault he made everything worse with dark magic, he is also hypocritically willing to kill any human that defies and critizices him, he made a false flag attack on the human kingdoms to launch war when the human kings didn't believed him that Xadia will exterminate them
** Ironically he succeded in securing a better future for humanity by having humans turning against him and uniting with Xadians to kill him and stop him from making an endless war for his hubris, and stop him from killing innocent Xadians and wildlife from his greed
** Claudia is following Viren's footsteps in his quest to conquer Xadia, she initially didn't do it out of bias against Xadia but because of blindly believing her dad is right and she still believes it, to the point to betray her friends and help him kill Zym whom she adores, she continues to do struggles to follow Viren's agenda, despite that everyone else is telling her that Viren only cares for his ego, and even Viren told her that he doesn't want to conquer Xadia anymore
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** [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEmperorBelos Emperor Belos]] is eventually revealed to be one. He claims his oppressive autocracy is a NecessaryEvil to protect the Boiling Isles' denizens from the alleged dangers of wild magic, and that he's the enforcement of the Titan's will, promising them that they'll ascend to paradise on the "Day of Unity" if they follow him. But the series keeps gradually dropping increasing hints that he's a power-hungry liar until the full truth is revealed in "Hollow Mind": [[spoiler: Belos is not even a witch, but is actually a WitchHunter from the Human Realm who has spent the last few centuries plotting to [[FinalSolution wipe out all of witchkind]] on the Day of Unity before returning to Earth as a "hero". And even then, it's explicitly spelled out by the Titan that Belos only really cares about [[HeroicWannabe playing the hero]], and would rather the Isles burn [[NeverMyFault than admit otherwise]]]].

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** [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEmperorBelos Emperor Belos]] is eventually revealed to be one. He claims his oppressive autocracy is a NecessaryEvil necessary to protect the Boiling Isles' denizens from the alleged dangers of wild magic, and that he's the enforcement of the Titan's will, promising them that they'll ascend to paradise on the "Day of Unity" if they follow him. But the series keeps gradually dropping increasing hints that he's a power-hungry liar until the full truth is revealed in "Hollow Mind": [[spoiler: Belos is not even a witch, but is actually a WitchHunter from the Human Realm who has spent the last few centuries plotting to [[FinalSolution wipe out all of witchkind]] on the Day of Unity before returning to Earth as a "hero". And even then, it's explicitly spelled out by the Titan that Belos only really cares about [[HeroicWannabe playing the hero]], and would rather the Isles burn [[NeverMyFault than admit otherwise]]]].
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* In ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekProdigy'', we have [[ArcVillain the Diviner]]. His main goal is to claim the ''Protostar'', a SuperPrototype Starfleet cruiser, which he claims will be the salvation of his people. However, his actions are driven by [[ItsAllAboutMe his own desires and ambitions]], ruling the prison colony Tars Lemora with an iron fist, using the Medusian Zero to MindRape those who don't follow him (prior to their escape, that is) and when given [[FriendOrIdolDecision the choice between saving his daughter Gwyn and claiming the ship]], [[AbusiveParents he chose the ship]]. [[spoiler:Then there's the fact that the reason he wants the ''Protostar'' is to destroy the Federation because, some fifty years into the future, FirstContact with his race lead to a civil war between those who embraced continued isolationism and those wanting acceptance with the world that lead to his world's destruction. Even when Gwyn points out that [[RevengeBeforeReason all he needs to do]] is to go to the Federation and ''just tell them to stay away'', he'd rather continue with his plot.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekProdigy'', we have [[ArcVillain the Diviner]]. His main goal is to claim the ''Protostar'', a SuperPrototype Starfleet cruiser, which he claims will be the salvation of his people. However, his actions are driven by [[ItsAllAboutMe his own desires and ambitions]], ruling the prison colony Tars Lemora with an iron fist, using the Medusian Medusan Zero to MindRape those who don't follow him (prior to their escape, that is) and when given the choice between [[FriendOrIdolDecision the choice between saving his daughter Gwyn and claiming the ship]], [[AbusiveParents he chose the ship]]. [[spoiler:Then there's the fact that the reason he wants the ''Protostar'' is to destroy the Federation because, some fifty years into the future, FirstContact with his race lead to a civil war between those who embraced continued isolationism and those wanting acceptance with the world universe that lead to his world's destruction. Even when Gwyn points out that [[RevengeBeforeReason all he needs to do]] is to go to the Federation and ''just tell them to stay away'', he'd rather continue with his plot.]]
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** Most villains in the SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' legitimately want to make the world a better place, but just go overboard. (Though [[GodOfEvil Vaatu]], the BigBad of Season 2, is the [[MadeOfEvil personification of evil itself]], and [[ObviouslyEvil doesn't hide his true nature in the least]].) Among the human antagonists, the one clear exception is Korra's [[EvilUncle uncle]], the ''other'' BigBad of Season 2, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Unalaq]]. A strongly religious KnightTemplar, Unalaq seeks to unite the spirit and material worlds and argues that the world needs to respect the spirits, but Korra calls him out for being a power-hungry {{Hypocrite}}. He is shown ready to sacrifice his own children to achieve his ends, and is also working with the ''literal embodiment of all evil''. Whatever good intentions he had may have been genuine at one point, but by the time he's introduced, it's become a sham, warped to {{Omnicidal Mania|c}} by his desire for power.

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** Most villains in the SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' legitimately want to make the world a better place, but just go overboard. (Though [[GodOfEvil Vaatu]], the BigBad of Season 2, is the [[MadeOfEvil personification of evil itself]], and [[ObviouslyEvil doesn't hide his true nature in the least]].) Among the human antagonists, the one clear exception is Korra's [[EvilUncle uncle]], the ''other'' BigBad of Season 2, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Unalaq]]. A strongly religious KnightTemplar, Unalaq seeks to unite the spirit and material worlds and argues that the world needs to respect the spirits, but Korra calls him out for being a power-hungry {{Hypocrite}}. He is shown ready to sacrifice his own children to achieve his ends, and is also working with the ''literal embodiment of all evil''. Whatever good intentions he had may have been genuine at one point, but by the time he's introduced, it's become a sham, warped to {{Omnicidal Mania|c}} by his desire for power. If even a genuine extremist like Zaheer is calling you selfish, you REALLY qualify.

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** [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEmperorBelos Emperor Belos]] is eventually revealed to be one. He claims his oppressive autocracy is a NecessaryEvil to protect the Boiling Isles' denizens from the alleged dangers of wild magic, and that he's the enforcement of the Titan's will, promising them that they'll ascend to paradise on the "Day of Unity" if they follow him. But the series keeps gradually dropping increasing hints that he's a power-hungry liar until the full truth is revealed in "Hollow Mind": [[spoiler: Belos is not even a witch, but is actually a WitchHunter from the Human Realm who has spent the last few centuries plotting to [[FinalSolution wipe out all of witchkind]] on the Day of Unity before returning to Earth as a "hero".]].

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** [[Characters/TheOwlHouseEmperorBelos Emperor Belos]] is eventually revealed to be one. He claims his oppressive autocracy is a NecessaryEvil to protect the Boiling Isles' denizens from the alleged dangers of wild magic, and that he's the enforcement of the Titan's will, promising them that they'll ascend to paradise on the "Day of Unity" if they follow him. But the series keeps gradually dropping increasing hints that he's a power-hungry liar until the full truth is revealed in "Hollow Mind": [[spoiler: Belos is not even a witch, but is actually a WitchHunter from the Human Realm who has spent the last few centuries plotting to [[FinalSolution wipe out all of witchkind]] on the Day of Unity before returning to Earth as a "hero".]]. And even then, it's explicitly spelled out by the Titan that Belos only really cares about [[HeroicWannabe playing the hero]], and would rather the Isles burn [[NeverMyFault than admit otherwise]]]].
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** Demona's biggest flaw aside from her NeverMyFault tendencies is her ongoing delusion that her paranoia against humankind is justified. The show demonstrates Demona is simply an utterly vengeful, bitter woman lashing out from centuries of isolation and denial, and she's more concerned with having a scapegoat for her sins so she can keep being the victim.
*** Demona's spent centuries clinging to the belief both her clans were destroyed because of humans and thinks she's reclaiming the Earth for gargoyles by trying to kill every human on the planet. While it's true gargoyles have suffered a lot thinks to human intolerance, they've suffered just as much thanks to Demona's backstabbing. Her original clan was destroyed because she helped betray Wyvern Castle to the viking invaders, and her second clan was destroyed because she allied with Canmore thinking Macbeth was gonna betray her first. Both times happened because Demona automatically assumed the worst and acted without any perspective, but she still insists she did nothing wrong.

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** Demona's biggest flaw aside from her NeverMyFault tendencies is her ongoing delusion that her paranoia against humankind is justified. The show demonstrates Demona is simply an utterly vengeful, bitter woman lashing out from centuries of isolation [[TragicVillain isolation]] and denial, [[NeverMyFault denial]], and she's more concerned with having a scapegoat for her sins so she can keep being the victim.
*** Demona's spent centuries clinging to the belief both her clans were destroyed because of humans and thinks she's reclaiming the Earth for gargoyles by trying to kill every human on the planet. While it's true gargoyles have suffered a lot thinks to human intolerance, they've suffered just as much thanks to Demona's backstabbing. Her original clan was destroyed because she helped betray Wyvern Castle to the viking invaders, and her second clan was destroyed because she allied with Canmore thinking Macbeth was gonna about to betray her first. Both times happened because Demona automatically assumed the worst and acted without any perspective, but she still insists she did nothing wrong.
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** [[Characters/Castlevania2017DraculasArmy Dracula]] remains a lot more sympathetic than most examples in spite of this trope. The majority of his War Council join his KillAllHumans campaign believing they'll get to rule the world once humanity's been eradicated, and both of Dracula's Forgemasters are respectively convinced that Dracula will make the world a better place by removing human cruelty. In actuality, Dracula's campaign is at its heart just a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum, and Dracula wholly expects the vampires, himself included, to follow humanity to the grave.

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** [[Characters/Castlevania2017DraculasArmy [[Characters/Castlevania2017Dracula Dracula]] remains a lot more sympathetic than most examples in spite of this trope. The majority of his War Council join his KillAllHumans campaign believing they'll get to rule the world once humanity's been eradicated, and both of Dracula's Forgemasters are respectively convinced that Dracula will make the world a better place by removing human cruelty. In actuality, Dracula's campaign is at its heart just a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum, and Dracula wholly expects the vampires, himself included, to follow humanity to the grave.
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** Most villains in the SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' legitimately want to make the world a better place, but just go overboard. (Though [[KnightOfCerebus Vaatu]], the BigBad of Season 2, is the [[MadeOfEvil personification of evil itself]], and [[ObviouslyEvil doesn't hide his true nature in the least]].) Among the human antagonists, the one clear exception is Korra's [[EvilUncle uncle]], the ''other'' BigBad of Season 2, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Unalaq]]. A strongly religious KnightTemplar, Unalaq seeks to unite the spirit and material worlds and argues that the world needs to respect the spirits, but Korra calls him out for being a power-hungry {{Hypocrite}}. He is shown ready to sacrifice his own children to achieve his ends, and is also working with the ''literal embodiment of all evil''. Whatever good intentions he had may have been genuine at one point, but by the time he's introduced, it's become a sham, warped to {{Omnicidal Mania|c}} by his desire for power.

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** Most villains in the SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' legitimately want to make the world a better place, but just go overboard. (Though [[KnightOfCerebus [[GodOfEvil Vaatu]], the BigBad of Season 2, is the [[MadeOfEvil personification of evil itself]], and [[ObviouslyEvil doesn't hide his true nature in the least]].) Among the human antagonists, the one clear exception is Korra's [[EvilUncle uncle]], the ''other'' BigBad of Season 2, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Unalaq]]. A strongly religious KnightTemplar, Unalaq seeks to unite the spirit and material worlds and argues that the world needs to respect the spirits, but Korra calls him out for being a power-hungry {{Hypocrite}}. He is shown ready to sacrifice his own children to achieve his ends, and is also working with the ''literal embodiment of all evil''. Whatever good intentions he had may have been genuine at one point, but by the time he's introduced, it's become a sham, warped to {{Omnicidal Mania|c}} by his desire for power.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekProdigy'', we have [[ArcVillain the Diviner]]. His main goal is to claim the ''Protostar'', a SuperPrototype Starfleet cruiser, which he claims will be the salvation of his people. However, his actions are driven by [[ItsAllAboutMe his own desires and ambitions]], ruling the prison colony Tars Lemora with an iron fist, using the Medusian Zero to MindRape those who don't follow him (prior to their escape, that is) and when given [[FriendOrIdolDecision the choice between saving his daughter Gwyn and claiming the ship]], [[AbusiveParents he chose the ship]]. [[spoiler:Then there's the fact that the reason he wants the ''Protostar'' is to destroy the Federation because, some fifty years into the future, FirstContact with his race lead to a civil war between those who embraced continued isolationism and those wanting acceptance with the world that lead to his world's destruction. Even when Gwyn points out that all he needs to do is to go to the Federation and ''[[StateTheSimpleSolution just tell them to stay away]]'', he'd rather continue with his plot.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekProdigy'', we have [[ArcVillain the Diviner]]. His main goal is to claim the ''Protostar'', a SuperPrototype Starfleet cruiser, which he claims will be the salvation of his people. However, his actions are driven by [[ItsAllAboutMe his own desires and ambitions]], ruling the prison colony Tars Lemora with an iron fist, using the Medusian Zero to MindRape those who don't follow him (prior to their escape, that is) and when given [[FriendOrIdolDecision the choice between saving his daughter Gwyn and claiming the ship]], [[AbusiveParents he chose the ship]]. [[spoiler:Then there's the fact that the reason he wants the ''Protostar'' is to destroy the Federation because, some fifty years into the future, FirstContact with his race lead to a civil war between those who embraced continued isolationism and those wanting acceptance with the world that lead to his world's destruction. Even when Gwyn points out that [[RevengeBeforeReason all he needs to do do]] is to go to the Federation and ''[[StateTheSimpleSolution just ''just tell them to stay away]]'', away'', he'd rather continue with his plot.]]
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** [[KnightOfCerebus Rat King]], despite stating his goal is to liberate rats, has sent several plummeting to their doom to kill Splinter, doesn't lift a finger to help one that mutated itself by accident, and called them disgusting shortly before his mutation. It seems more likely he considers his brethren a means to an end than actually believing in his goals.
** Za-Naron claims she's "cleansing" the world of its corruption, but she has no problem with killing everyone on Earth, including innocent people. She enjoys trying to painfully kill the heroes, giving an EvilLaugh while doing it. And at the end, she's enraged at April for giving up "all the power in the universe", showing that she seems to be quite power-hungry.

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** *** [[KnightOfCerebus Rat King]], despite stating his goal is to liberate rats, has sent several plummeting to their doom to kill Splinter, doesn't lift a finger to help one that mutated itself by accident, and called them disgusting shortly before his mutation. It seems more likely he considers his brethren a means to an end than actually believing in his goals.
** *** Za-Naron claims she's "cleansing" the world of its corruption, but she has no problem with killing everyone on Earth, including innocent people. She enjoys trying to painfully kill the heroes, giving an EvilLaugh while doing it. And at the end, she's enraged at April for giving up "all the power in the universe", showing that she seems to be quite power-hungry.
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** Za-Naron claims she's "cleansing" the world of its corruption, but she has no problem with killing everyone on Earth, including innocent people. She enjoyed trying to painfully kill the heroes, giving an EvilLaugh while doing it. And at the end, she was enraged at April for giving up "all the power in the universe", showing that she seemed to be quite power-hungry.

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** Za-Naron claims she's "cleansing" the world of its corruption, but she has no problem with killing everyone on Earth, including innocent people. She enjoyed enjoys trying to painfully kill the heroes, giving an EvilLaugh while doing it. And at the end, she was she's enraged at April for giving up "all the power in the universe", showing that she seemed seems to be quite power-hungry.

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** ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'': [[KnightOfCerebus Rat King]], despite stating his goal is to liberate rats, has sent several plummeting to their doom to kill Splinter, doesn't lift a finger to help one that mutated itself by accident, and called them disgusting shortly before his mutation. It seems more likely he considers his brethren a means to an end than actually believing in his goals.

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** ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'': ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'':
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[[KnightOfCerebus Rat King]], despite stating his goal is to liberate rats, has sent several plummeting to their doom to kill Splinter, doesn't lift a finger to help one that mutated itself by accident, and called them disgusting shortly before his mutation. It seems more likely he considers his brethren a means to an end than actually believing in his goals.goals.
** Za-Naron claims she's "cleansing" the world of its corruption, but she has no problem with killing everyone on Earth, including innocent people. She enjoyed trying to painfully kill the heroes, giving an EvilLaugh while doing it. And at the end, she was enraged at April for giving up "all the power in the universe", showing that she seemed to be quite power-hungry.
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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' has Gabriel Agreste, a dour and strict father who claims that he does everything he does for his son Adrien after his wife was put into a coma. It turns out that he's actually [[BigBad Hawk Moth]], who is trying to steal Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses in order to gain the power of CosmicRetcon so that he can heal Emilie by erasing whatever caused her to fall into her coma [[spoiler:due to overuse of the [[ToxicPhlebotinum damaged Peacock Miraculous]]]]. Gabriel's [[EvilIsHammy hammy demeanor as Hawk Moth]], however, is an early sign that he's enjoying his villainy far too much for that excuse to hold water. He allows his assistant Nathalie to help him as [[TheDragon Mayura]], despite [[spoiler:the Peacock Miraculous still being damaged]], and he only intermittently shows concern for her well-being. Furthermore, Adrien cannot remember him being anything but controlling, even before what happened to his mother. Finally, the events of both "Cat Blanc" and "Ephemeral" have shown that [[spoiler:if he knew Adrien was Chat Noir, he would have no objections to turning his own son into his latest pawn]]. No matter how much he claims his actions are for his family, Gabriel is [[SecretlySelfish only truly dedicated to his own self-interest]]. In "Evolution", [[spoiler:he has the perfect chance to save both Emilie and Nathalie, but passes it up to go after Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses. This causes Nathalie to angrily denounce Gabriel and refuse to help him any longer]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' has Gabriel Agreste, a dour and strict father who claims that he does everything he does for his son Adrien after his wife was put into a coma. It turns out that he's actually [[BigBad Hawk Moth]], who is trying to steal Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses in order to gain the power of CosmicRetcon so that he can heal Emilie by erasing whatever caused her to fall into her coma [[spoiler:due to overuse of the [[ToxicPhlebotinum damaged Peacock Miraculous]]]]. Gabriel's [[EvilIsHammy hammy demeanor as Hawk Moth]], however, is an early sign that he's enjoying his villainy far too much for that excuse to hold water. He allows his assistant Nathalie to help him as [[TheDragon Mayura]], despite [[spoiler:the Peacock Miraculous still being damaged]], and he only intermittently shows concern for her well-being. Furthermore, Adrien cannot remember him being anything but controlling, even before what happened to his mother. Finally, the events of both "Cat Blanc" and "Ephemeral" have shown that [[spoiler:if he knew Adrien was Chat Cat Noir, he would have no objections to turning his own son into his latest pawn]]. No matter how much he claims his actions are for his family, Gabriel is [[SecretlySelfish only truly dedicated to his own self-interest]]. In "Evolution", [[spoiler:he has the perfect chance to save both Emilie and Nathalie, but passes it up to go after Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses. This causes Nathalie to angrily denounce Gabriel and refuse to help him any longer]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' has Gabriel Agreste, a dour and strict father who claims that he does everything he does for his son Adrien after his wife was put into a coma. It turns out that he's actually [[BigBad Hawk Moth]], who is trying to steal Ladybug and Chat Noir's Miraculous in order to heal Emilie by erasing whatever caused her to fall into her coma [[spoiler:due to overuse of the [[ToxicPhlebotinum damaged Peacock Miraculous]]]]. Gabriel's [[EvilIsHammy hammy demeanor as Hawk Moth]], however, is an early sign that he's enjoying his villainy far too much for that excuse to hold water. He allows his assistant Nathalie to help him as [[TheDragon Mayura]], despite [[spoiler:the Peacock Miraculous still being damaged]], and he only intermittently shows concern for her well-being. Furthermore, Adrien cannot remember him being anything but controlling, even before what happened to his mother. Finally, the events of both "Chat Blanc" and "Ephemeral" have shown that [[spoiler:if he knew Adrien was Chat Noir, he would have no objections to turning his own son into his latest pawn]]. No matter how much he claims his actions are for his family, Gabriel is [[SecretlySelfish only truly dedicated to his own self-interest]]. In "Evolution", [[spoiler: he has the perfect chance to save both Emilie and Nathalie, but passes it up to go after Ladybug and Chat Noir's Miraculous. This causes Nathalie to angrily denounce Gabriel and refuses to help him any longer.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' has Gabriel Agreste, a dour and strict father who claims that he does everything he does for his son Adrien after his wife was put into a coma. It turns out that he's actually [[BigBad Hawk Moth]], who is trying to steal Ladybug and Chat Cat Noir's Miraculous Miraculouses in order to gain the power of CosmicRetcon so that he can heal Emilie by erasing whatever caused her to fall into her coma [[spoiler:due to overuse of the [[ToxicPhlebotinum damaged Peacock Miraculous]]]]. Gabriel's [[EvilIsHammy hammy demeanor as Hawk Moth]], however, is an early sign that he's enjoying his villainy far too much for that excuse to hold water. He allows his assistant Nathalie to help him as [[TheDragon Mayura]], despite [[spoiler:the Peacock Miraculous still being damaged]], and he only intermittently shows concern for her well-being. Furthermore, Adrien cannot remember him being anything but controlling, even before what happened to his mother. Finally, the events of both "Chat "Cat Blanc" and "Ephemeral" have shown that [[spoiler:if he knew Adrien was Chat Noir, he would have no objections to turning his own son into his latest pawn]]. No matter how much he claims his actions are for his family, Gabriel is [[SecretlySelfish only truly dedicated to his own self-interest]]. In "Evolution", [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he has the perfect chance to save both Emilie and Nathalie, but passes it up to go after Ladybug and Chat Cat Noir's Miraculous. Miraculouses. This causes Nathalie to angrily denounce Gabriel and refuses refuse to help him any longer.]]longer]].

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