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* In ''Wisdom and Courage'', part of the ''Fanfic/BoundDestiniesTrilogy'', [[BigBad Veran]] repeatedly claims that she does what she's doing to avenge her fallen ancestors and get her people to see the error of their ways, but it falls flat because she commits random acts of violence and mass murder for no other reason than to acquire power for herself and [[ForTheEvulz her own sadistic amusement]]. Zelda even [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calls her out on it]] during the final showdown, stating outright that it's clear that all Veran ''truly'' wants is to [[AxCrazy satisfy her own bloodlust]].

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* ''Fanfic/BoundDestiniesTrilogy'': In ''Wisdom and Courage'', part of the ''Fanfic/BoundDestiniesTrilogy'', [[BigBad Veran]] repeatedly claims that she does what she's doing to avenge her fallen ancestors and get her people to see the error of their ways, but it falls flat because she commits random acts of violence and mass murder for no other reason than to acquire power for herself and [[ForTheEvulz her own sadistic amusement]]. Zelda even [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calls her out on it]] during the final showdown, stating outright that it's clear that all Veran ''truly'' wants is to [[AxCrazy satisfy her own bloodlust]].



* ''Fanfic/ForHisOwnSake'': Naru and Motoko offer vain excuses that they were trying to protect others from Keitaro's "perversions," no matter how times they've been told he wasn't actually doing anything. Naru especially is held to task by Seta when he discovers how badly her behavior has warped Sarah's development. When she claims she was worried about Sarah being mistreated by Keitaro, Seta argues she allowed Sarah to misbehave to her heart's content by beating up Keitaro whenever he tried to discipline her, thus teaching the girl she can do whatever she likes because she won't be punished for it. Motoko is later called out on her hypocrisy about Keitaro's "perversions" [[spoiler:when her family and the God Cry School elders are shown the erotic novels she wrote about Keitaro.]]

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* ''Fanfic/ForHisOwnSake'': Naru and Motoko offer vain excuses repeatedly insist that they were trying to protect they're protecting others from Keitaro's "perversions," no matter how times they've been told "perversions"; the fact that he wasn't [[UnprovokedPervertPayback never actually doing anything. did anything]] is completely irrelevant to them.
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Naru especially is held to task by Seta when he discovers how badly her behavior has warped Sarah's development. When she claims over being a ToxicFriendInfluence upon his daughter Sarah, Naru insists that she was worried about Sarah being mistreated by Keitaro, how Keitaro might mistreat or "take advantage of" the younger girl. Seta argues she allowed Sarah to misbehave to retorts that her heart's content by beating up attacking Keitaro whenever he tried attempted to discipline her, thus teaching the girl scold Sarah for her [[SpoiledBrat bratty behavior]] just taught Sarah to be even ''nastier'', as she can do whatever she likes because she won't expects would-be disciplinarians to be punished for it. Motoko is later called instead of her. Naru doesn't see anything wrong with this since she similarly expects everything to go her way, using tantrums and violence to try and force others to cater to her every whim.
** Motoko's family and the elders of the God Cry School call her
out on her hypocrisy after discovering [[spoiler:the erotic novels she'd written about Keitaro]], proving that for all her screeching about Keitaro's "perversions" [[spoiler:when her family and the God Cry School elders are shown the erotic novels supposed "perversion", she wrote about Keitaro.]]
[[spoiler:treated him as a lust object herself]].

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[[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremists]] in FanWorks.



* ''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition:'' While [[BigBad Chrysalis's]] stated goal is to undo Monarque's Wish and put things back to the way they were, it's clear that she's ultimately only in it for her own secret agenda. [[spoiler: This is underscored by the way she sadistically taunts Ladybug while she's incapacitated, and specifically mentions that she plans to let Chat Noir take her Miraculous off her rather than just doing it herself]].
* ''Fanfic/TruthAndConsequences:'' Marinette ''claims'' to have made her [[DealWithTheDevil deal with Hawk Moth]] and [[FaceHeelTurn betrayed Chat Noir]] for the greater good, but ultimately her claims fall flat because it's blatantly obvious that she just wants to be done with her duties as Ladybug, and is simply lying to herself [[SecretlySelfish to cover up]] her [[ItsAllAboutMe naked self-interest]], and even her love for Adrien, who she claims she's doing this all for, is painted in a very selfish and entitled light. Even ''she'' eventually admits that she's doing this because it's the right thing for ''her'', only to quickly slip back into [[BelievingTheirOwnLies Believing Her Own Lies]].

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* ''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition:'' ''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition'': While [[BigBad Chrysalis's]] stated goal is to undo Monarque's Wish and put things back to the way they were, it's clear that she's ultimately only in it for her own secret agenda. [[spoiler: This is underscored by the way she sadistically taunts Ladybug while she's incapacitated, and specifically mentions that she plans to let Chat Noir take her Miraculous off her rather than just doing it herself]].
* ''Fanfic/TruthAndConsequences:'' ''Fanfic/TruthAndConsequences'': Marinette ''claims'' to have made her [[DealWithTheDevil deal with Hawk Moth]] Hawkmoth]] and [[FaceHeelTurn betrayed Chat Noir]] for the greater good, but ultimately her claims fall flat because it's blatantly obvious as well as to protect Adrien from the AwfulTruth about his father. As the story goes on, however, it becomes increasingly clear that she just desperately wants to be done with freed from her duties responsibilities as Ladybug, Ladybug and able to have a ''[[IJustWantToBeNormal normal life]]'', and is simply lying to herself [[SecretlySelfish to cover up]] about the SecretlySelfish aspects of her [[ItsAllAboutMe naked self-interest]], and even her love for Adrien, who motives. At one point, she claims she's doing this all for, is painted in a very selfish and entitled light. Even ''she'' eventually outright admits to Tikki that she's doing this because it's she wants to be able to put ''herself'' first for a change, rather than having to constantly sacrifice everything in the right thing for ''her'', only name of being the {{Ideal Hero}}ine everyone expects her to remain. She quickly slip slips back into [[BelievingTheirOwnLies Believing Her Own Lies]].Lies]] afterwards.



* ''Fanfic/WeightOffYourShoulder'': As Bunnyx, Future Alix claims to be concerned about preserving the future, which threatens to change ''dramatically'' after Marinette decides to step down as Guardian and pass on her Earrings to a new Ladybug. In reality, however, she's a massive {{Hypocrite}} -- the canon timeline that she insists is so sacrosanct is actually the result of her ''personally'' meddling with time, trying to force [[ShipperWithAnAgenda Marinette and Adrien into a relationship]] despite how it always ends in disaster. In essence, [[TimeTravelingJerkass Future!Alix]] wants to MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight [[SkewedPriorities for the sake of her ship]], not caring one whit about what harm she or any of the ''villains'' cause in the process.

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* ''Fanfic/WeightOffYourShoulder'': As Bunnyx, Future Alix claims to be concerned about preserving the future, which threatens to change ''dramatically'' after Marinette decides to step down as Guardian and pass on her Earrings to a new Ladybug. In reality, however, she's a massive {{Hypocrite}} -- the canon timeline that she insists is so sacrosanct is actually the result of her ''personally'' meddling with time, trying to force [[ShipperWithAnAgenda Marinette and Adrien into a relationship]] despite how it always ends in disaster. In essence, [[TimeTravelingJerkass Future!Alix]] wants to MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight for [[SkewedPriorities for the sake of her ship]], not caring one whit about what harm she or any of the ''villains'' cause in the process.
process. All of this is because she can't accept that [[spoiler:her ''own'' suffering might have been AllForNothing -- she's desperately trying to convince herself that if she can engineer a timeline where Marinette and Adrien get together, it will prove that everything has all been WorthIt]].



* Fanfic/InTheKingdomsService: the Vale Secret Service is a group of {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s who do what they have to in order to protect Vale and its citizens, with Oobleck stating that they put it all on the line to protect them "because we love them". After Oobleck dies, it's revealed that only his faction had pure intentions; the rest (fellow director Alpha in particular) only care about staying in power. Alpha kidnaps multiple agents, including one from another Kingdom's agency, to torture them for information or to break them into being loyal to him. He even has Ruby kidnapped both as a trap for Jaune, and to harvest her eyes in the (correct) belief they would be a powerful weapon.

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* Fanfic/InTheKingdomsService: ''Fanfic/InTheKingdomsService'': the Vale Secret Service is a group of {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s who do what they have to in order to protect Vale and its citizens, with Oobleck stating that they put it all on the line to protect them "because we love them". After Oobleck dies, it's revealed that only his faction had pure intentions; the rest (fellow director Alpha in particular) only care about staying in power. Alpha kidnaps multiple agents, including one from another Kingdom's agency, to torture them for information or to break them into being loyal to him. He even has Ruby kidnapped both as a trap for Jaune, and to harvest her eyes in the (correct) belief they would be a powerful weapon.



* ''[[Fanfic/MarioFansWhatIf What If The Mario Brothers Were Imprisoned in Paintings?]]'': King Boo likes to act like he is doing what he is doing to get revenge for his people's mistreatment. However, it becomes increasingly clear that King Boo is doing it to get revenge only for himself, no matter how bad of an idea that revenge is or how little it makes sense. Eventually, the rest of the Boos realizes this and overthrow him, with King Boo declaring them all traitors and trying to kill them.

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* ''[[Fanfic/MarioFansWhatIf What If The Mario Brothers Were Imprisoned in Paintings?]]'': King Boo likes to act like he is doing what he is doing to get revenge for his people's mistreatment. However, it becomes increasingly clear that King Boo is doing it to get revenge only for himself, ''himself'', no matter how bad of an idea that revenge is or how little it makes sense. Eventually, the rest of the Boos realizes this and overthrow him, with King Boo declaring them all traitors and trying to kill them.
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''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition:'' While [[BigBad Chrysalis's]] stated goal is to undo Monarque's Wish and put things back to the way they were, it's clear that she's ultimately only in it for her own secret agenda. [[spoiler: This is underscored by the way she sadistically taunts Ladybug while she's incapacitated, and specifically mentions that she plans to let Chat Noir take her Miraculous off her rather than just doing it herself]].

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* ''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition:'' While [[BigBad Chrysalis's]] stated goal is to undo Monarque's Wish and put things back to the way they were, it's clear that she's ultimately only in it for her own secret agenda. [[spoiler: This is underscored by the way she sadistically taunts Ladybug while she's incapacitated, and specifically mentions that she plans to let Chat Noir take her Miraculous off her rather than just doing it herself]].
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''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition:'' While [[BigBad Chrysalis's]] stated goal is to undo Monarque's Wish and put things back to the way they were, it's clear that she's ultimately only in it for her own secret agenda. [[spoiler: This is underscored by the way she sadistically taunts Ladybug while she's incapacitated, and specifically mentions that she plans to let Chat Noir take her Miraculous off her rather than just doing it herself]].
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* ''Fanfic/TruthAndConsequences:'' Marinette ''claims'' to have made her [[DealWithTheDevil deal with Hawk Moth]] and [[FaceHeelTurn betrayed Chat Noir]] for the greater good, but ultimately her claims fall flat because it's blatantly obvious that she just wants to be done with her duties as Ladybug, and is simply lying to herself [[SecretlySelfish to cover up her]] [[ItsAllAboutMe naked self-interest]], and even her love for Adrien, who she claims she's doing this all for, is painted in a very selfish and entitled light. Even ''she'' eventually admits that she's doing this because it's the right thing for ''her'', only to quickly slip back into [[BelievingTheirOwnLies Believing Her Own Lies]].

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* ''Fanfic/TruthAndConsequences:'' Marinette ''claims'' to have made her [[DealWithTheDevil deal with Hawk Moth]] and [[FaceHeelTurn betrayed Chat Noir]] for the greater good, but ultimately her claims fall flat because it's blatantly obvious that she just wants to be done with her duties as Ladybug, and is simply lying to herself [[SecretlySelfish to cover up her]] up]] her [[ItsAllAboutMe naked self-interest]], and even her love for Adrien, who she claims she's doing this all for, is painted in a very selfish and entitled light. Even ''she'' eventually admits that she's doing this because it's the right thing for ''her'', only to quickly slip back into [[BelievingTheirOwnLies Believing Her Own Lies]].

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