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* The scientist who tries to torture Hawkeye is quite the nasty character; everything from his [[FourEyesZeroSoul facial expressions]], the dim, green lighting of the room he's keeping Hawkeye in, and the way he describes his torture methods in detail, is like something out of a horror movie.

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* The scientist who tries to torture Hawkeye is quite the nasty character; everything from his [[FourEyesZeroSoul facial expressions]], the dim, green lighting of the room he's keeping Hawkeye in, and the way he [[ToThePain describes his torture methods in detail, detail]], is like something out of a horror movie.



* Quicksilver defeats his North Korean counterpart Hurricane by grabbing her and running at a speed fast enough to tear her apart. We even see her eye come of its socket.

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* Quicksilver defeats his North Korean counterpart Hurricane by grabbing her and running at a speed fast enough to tear her apart. We even see her eye [[EyeScream Her eye's seen to come out of its socket.her socket, too.]]

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* Okay, the argument between Earth–616 Hank and Janet, as noted under "NeverLiveItDown", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp? And that after unloading bug spray right into her face'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is, and the cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.
* The Chitauri. You know that office building around the corner? It could be full of Chitauri. Your boss? Chitauri. The general at that army base down the way? Chitauri. And they've been here for years. And they want to make the world better. By putting drugs in the water that will lobotomize everyone. [[spoiler: And if they run out of time for that, they're perfectly willing to destroy Earth.]] While the drones are vulnerable to standard guns, the officers aren't. At least, they have a HealingFactor. And how do they take on peoples' appearances and powers? By eating them. We even get to see [[BodyHorror what happens during a]] GlamourFailure. The only way to take out their leader is [[spoiler:for Hulk to tear him apart and eat him. Bruce Banner's still pooping Chitauri bits later, and SHIELD takes no chances with them.]]
** Herr Kleiser, [[spoiler: who on top of being a Nazi is also a high-ranking Chitauri agent]], is NightmareFuel incarnate. The only character in the first series who matches his level of sadism is [[EvilerThanThou the Hulk]] [[spoiler:(who, as mentioned before, ''literally eats him and shits him out in pieces later'')]].
* The scene in Ultimates 2 where Hank Pym is visiting Bruce Banner in his cell, and it's [[spoiler: revealed that Nick Fury is witnessing the whole conversation through a secret camera]]. The full-page shot of Bryan Hitch's photo-realistic [[spoiler: Nick Fury]] in a red room, staring at the video, is just chilling, and it perfectly captures the level of paranoia required to be a super spy.

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* Okay, the argument between Earth–616 Hank and Janet, as noted under "NeverLiveItDown", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp? And that after unloading bug spray right into her face'']]? face''? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is, and the cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.
* The Chitauri. You know that office building around the corner? It could be full of Chitauri. Your boss? Chitauri. The general at that army base down the way? Chitauri. And they've been here for years. And they want to make the world better. By putting drugs in the water that will lobotomize everyone. [[spoiler: And if they run out of time for that, they're perfectly willing to destroy Earth.]] Earth. While the drones are vulnerable to standard guns, the officers aren't. At least, they have a HealingFactor. And how do they take on peoples' appearances and powers? By eating them. We even get to see [[BodyHorror what happens during a]] GlamourFailure. The only way to take out their leader is [[spoiler:for for Hulk to tear him apart and eat him. Bruce Banner's still pooping Chitauri bits later, and SHIELD takes no chances with them.]]
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** Herr Kleiser, [[spoiler: who on top of being a Nazi is also a high-ranking Chitauri agent]], agent, is NightmareFuel incarnate. The only character in the first series who matches his level of sadism is [[EvilerThanThou the Hulk]] [[spoiler:(who, (who, as mentioned before, ''literally eats him and shits him out in pieces later'')]].
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* The scene in Ultimates 2 where Hank Pym is visiting Bruce Banner in his cell, and it's [[spoiler: revealed that Nick Fury is witnessing the whole conversation through a secret camera]]. camera. The full-page shot of Bryan Hitch's photo-realistic [[spoiler: Nick Fury]] Fury in a red room, staring at the video, is just chilling, and it perfectly captures the level of paranoia required to be a super spy.



* Quicksilver defeats [[spoiler: his North Korean counterpart Hurricane]] by grabbing her and running at a speed fast enough to tear her apart. We even see her eye come of its socket.

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* Quicksilver defeats [[spoiler: his North Korean counterpart Hurricane]] Hurricane by grabbing her and running at a speed fast enough to tear her apart. We even see her eye come of its socket.



* The Red Skull is the poster boy for this series. [[spoiler:He's the illegitimate son of Captain America from his one-night stand with past girlfriend Gail Richards before going off to the Second World War and disappearing. Gail gave up the Skull to protect Cap's memory under the false promise of him being given to an all-American family to be raised peacefully, but was instead taken to a base where he would be strenuously trained as the next Captain America. After years of resenting his training and being a tool of the US government, he escaped at 17 years old after killing 247 soldiers in a variety of gruesome ways and cutting the skin off his own face in the appearance of a fleshy skull to no longer resemble his absent father. After his escape, he went on to become a freelance mercenary in the employ of some of the worst dictators of the 20th century such as Pol Pot and Idi Amin as well as part of drug-running operations and terror-training for Afghanistan and the Russian Army. He was even the one who assassinated President John F. Kennedy just to show that he was no longer taking orders from the US Government]]
* Everything about Petra Laskov's backstory.[[spoiler: She was the wife of Georgian activist and enemy of the Skull's employers, Nikolai Laskov, and was forced by the Skull to choose between killing Nikolai with a pair of scissors or their baby son would be killed by the Skull and his men. She chose to kill her husband who died after an hour of screaming and being stabbed to death, but the Skull reneged on the deal and decided to simply toss the baby out a window to its death. After that the Skull had his men rape Petra for the rest of the day just to send a message.]]

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* The Red Skull is the poster boy for this series. [[spoiler:He's He's the illegitimate son of Captain America from his one-night stand with past girlfriend Gail Richards before going off to the Second World War and disappearing. Gail gave up the Skull to protect Cap's memory under the false promise of him being given to an all-American family to be raised peacefully, but was instead taken to a base where he would be strenuously trained as the next Captain America. After years of resenting his training and being a tool of the US government, he escaped at 17 years old after killing 247 soldiers in a variety of gruesome ways and cutting the skin off his own face in the appearance of a fleshy skull to no longer resemble his absent father. After his escape, he went on to become a freelance mercenary in the employ of some of the worst dictators of the 20th century such as Pol Pot and Idi Amin as well as part of drug-running operations and terror-training for Afghanistan and the Russian Army. He was even the one who assassinated President John F. Kennedy just to show that he was no longer taking orders from the US Government]]
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* Everything about Petra Laskov's backstory.[[spoiler: She was the wife of Georgian activist and enemy of the Skull's employers, Nikolai Laskov, and was forced by the Skull to choose between killing Nikolai with a pair of scissors or their baby son would be killed by the Skull and his men. She chose to kill her husband who died after an hour of screaming and being stabbed to death, but the Skull reneged on the deal and decided to simply toss the baby out a window to its death. After that the Skull had his men rape Petra for the rest of the day just to send a message.]]
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** Herr Kleiser, [[spoiler: who on top of being a Nazi is also a high-ranking Chitauri sgent]], is NightmareFuel incarnate. The only character in the first series who matches his level of sadism is [[EvilerThanThou the Hulk]] [[spoiler:(who, as mentioned before, ''literally eats him and shits him out in pieces later'')]].

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** Herr Kleiser, [[spoiler: who on top of being a Nazi is also a high-ranking Chitauri sgent]], agent]], is NightmareFuel incarnate. The only character in the first series who matches his level of sadism is [[EvilerThanThou the Hulk]] [[spoiler:(who, as mentioned before, ''literally eats him and shits him out in pieces later'')]].
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* During the Hulk's rampage through New York, he not so subtly implies that he's going to ''rape'' Betty Ross in Hulk form. This is apparently just one of the things Hulk does in this universe, alongside killing and ''eating'' people.
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** She was informed of it and allowed to meet him, just before Nick Fury had him executed.
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* Okay, the argument between Earth 6-16 Hank and Janet, as noted under "NeverLiveItDown", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp? And that after unloading bug spray right into her face'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is, and the cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.

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* Okay, the argument between Earth 6-16 Earth–616 Hank and Janet, as noted under "NeverLiveItDown", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp? And that after unloading bug spray right into her face'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is, and the cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.



** Herr Kleiser, [[spoiler: who on top of being a Nazi is also a high-ranking Chitauri sgent]], is NightmareFuel incarnate. The only character in the first series who matches his level of sadism is [[EvilerThanThou the Hulk]] [[spoiler:(who, as mentioned before, ''literally eats him and shits him out in pieces later'']].

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** Herr Kleiser, [[spoiler: who on top of being a Nazi is also a high-ranking Chitauri sgent]], is NightmareFuel incarnate. The only character in the first series who matches his level of sadism is [[EvilerThanThou the Hulk]] [[spoiler:(who, as mentioned before, ''literally eats him and shits him out in pieces later'']].later'')]].



** Hawkeye's breakout counts too - he's tortured physically and emotionally but still butchers a dozen highly armed and trained soldiers with only his bare hands... then we get a close up of a deranged, psychotic grin and one word: "Run."

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** Hawkeye's breakout counts too - he's tortured physically and emotionally but still butchers a dozen highly armed and trained soldiers with only his bare hands... then we get a close up of a deranged, psychotic grin and one word: "Run."
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* Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp? And that after unloading bug spray right into her face'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is, and the cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.

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* Okay, the argument between Earth 6-16 Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", "NeverLiveItDown", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp? And that after unloading bug spray right into her face'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is, and the cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.
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** Hawkeye's breakout counts too - he's tortured physically and emotionally but still butchers a dozen highly armed and trained soldiers with only his bare hands... then we get a close up of a deranged, psychotic grin and one word: "Run."
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* Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is, and the cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.

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* Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp'']]? Wasp? And that after unloading bug spray right into her face'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is, and the cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.
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* Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is. The cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.

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* Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is. The is, and the cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.
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* Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is.

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* Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is. The cold look in his eyes (while still wearing his Ant-Man helmet) when he says "you shouldn't have made me feel small, Jan" is downright creepy.
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* The Hulk is described to be in-verse nightmare fuel due to being a nigh-unstoppable rampaging monster with a penchant for cannibalism, murder, and implied rape. His first rampage killed hundreds of people and nearly tore the Ultimates apart. Best explained in the words of Nick Fury from the Ultimate Avengers film when he describes Banner:

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* The Hulk is described to be in-verse nightmare fuel due to being a nigh-unstoppable rampaging monster with a penchant for cannibalism, murder, and implied rape. His first rampage killed hundreds of people and nearly tore the Ultimates apart. Best explained in the words of Nick Fury from the Ultimate Avengers ''WesternAnimation/UltimateAvengers'' film when he describes Banner:



* Quicksilver defeats [[spoiler: his North Korean counterpart Hurricane]] by grabbing her and running at a speed fast enough to tear her apart. We even see her eye come of it's socket.

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* Quicksilver defeats [[spoiler: his North Korean counterpart Hurricane]] by grabbing her and running at a speed fast enough to tear her apart. We even see her eye come of it's its socket.
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* A ''high'' level of FridgeHorror sets in when you realize Gail Richards' son went on to be one of the worst monsters in American history, and she ''doesn't even know it''.
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* The scene in Ultimates 2 where Hank Pym is visiting Bruce Banner in his cell, and it's [[spoiler: revealed that Nick Fury is witnessing the whole conversation through a secret camera]]. The full-page shot of Bryan Hitch's photo-realistic [[spoiller: Nick Fury]] in a red room, staring at the video, is just chilling, and it perfectly captures the level of paranoia required to be a super spy.

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* The scene in Ultimates 2 where Hank Pym is visiting Bruce Banner in his cell, and it's [[spoiler: revealed that Nick Fury is witnessing the whole conversation through a secret camera]]. The full-page shot of Bryan Hitch's photo-realistic [[spoiller: [[spoiler: Nick Fury]] in a red room, staring at the video, is just chilling, and it perfectly captures the level of paranoia required to be a super spy.

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* The Chitauri. You know that office building around the corner? It could be full of Chitauri. Your boss? Chitauri. The general at that army base down the way? Chitauri. And they've been here for years. And they want to make the world better. By putting drugs in the water that will lobotomize everyone. [[spoiler:And if they run out of time for that, they're perfectly willing to destroy Earth.]] While the drones are vulnerable to standard guns, the officers aren't. At least, they have a HealingFactor. And how do they take on peoples' appearances and powers? By eating them. We even get to see [[BodyHorror what happens during a]] GlamourFailure. The only way to take out their leader is [[spoiler:for Hulk to tear him apart and eat him. Bruce Banner's still pooping Chitauri bits later, and SHIELD takes no chances with them.]]

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* The Chitauri. You know that office building around the corner? It could be full of Chitauri. Your boss? Chitauri. The general at that army base down the way? Chitauri. And they've been here for years. And they want to make the world better. By putting drugs in the water that will lobotomize everyone. [[spoiler:And [[spoiler: And if they run out of time for that, they're perfectly willing to destroy Earth.]] While the drones are vulnerable to standard guns, the officers aren't. At least, they have a HealingFactor. And how do they take on peoples' appearances and powers? By eating them. We even get to see [[BodyHorror what happens during a]] GlamourFailure. The only way to take out their leader is [[spoiler:for Hulk to tear him apart and eat him. Bruce Banner's still pooping Chitauri bits later, and SHIELD takes no chances with them.]]]]
** Herr Kleiser, [[spoiler: who on top of being a Nazi is also a high-ranking Chitauri sgent]], is NightmareFuel incarnate. The only character in the first series who matches his level of sadism is [[EvilerThanThou the Hulk]] [[spoiler:(who, as mentioned before, ''literally eats him and shits him out in pieces later'']].
* The scene in Ultimates 2 where Hank Pym is visiting Bruce Banner in his cell, and it's [[spoiler: revealed that Nick Fury is witnessing the whole conversation through a secret camera]]. The full-page shot of Bryan Hitch's photo-realistic [[spoiller: Nick Fury]] in a red room, staring at the video, is just chilling, and it perfectly captures the level of paranoia required to be a super spy.
* The scientist who tries to torture Hawkeye is quite the nasty character; everything from his [[FourEyesZeroSoul facial expressions]], the dim, green lighting of the room he's keeping Hawkeye in, and the way he describes his torture methods in detail, is like something out of a horror movie.
* Quicksilver defeats [[spoiler: his North Korean counterpart Hurricane]] by grabbing her and running at a speed fast enough to tear her apart. We even see her eye come of it's socket.

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* The Hulk is described to be in-verse nightmare fuel due to being a nigh-unstoppable rampaging monster with a penchant for cannibalism, murder, and implied rape. His first rampage killed hundreds of people and nearly tore the Ultimates apart.

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* The Hulk is described to be in-verse nightmare fuel due to being a nigh-unstoppable rampaging monster with a penchant for cannibalism, murder, and implied rape. His first rampage killed hundreds of people and nearly tore the Ultimates apart. Best explained in the words of Nick Fury from the Ultimate Avengers film when he describes Banner:
-->'''Nick Fury:''' Every time he finds himself even a little upset, that beast comes out. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets, the more landscape he levels. He becomes raw unleashed rage. A hulking monster right out of your worst nightmares.
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* The Red Skull is the poster boy for this series. [[spoiler:He's the illegitimate son of Captain America from his one-night stand with past girlfriend Gail Richards before going off to the Second World War and disappearing. Gail gave up the Skull to protect Cap's memory under the false promise of him being given to an all-American family to be raised peacefully, but was instead taken to a base where he would be strenuously trained as the next Captain America. After years of resenting his training and being a tool of the US government, he escaped at 17 years old after killing 247 soldiers in a variety of gruesome ways and cutting the skin off his own face in the appearance of a fleshy skull to no longer look his father. After that he went on to become freelance mercenary in the employ of some of the worst dictators of the 20th century such as Pol Pot and Idi Amin as well as drug-running and terror-training for Afghanistan and Russian Army. He was even the one who killed President John F. Kennedy just to show that he was no longer taking orders from the US Government]]
* Everything about Petra Laskov's backstory.[[spoiler: She was the wife of Georgina activist and enemy of the Skull's employers, Nikolai Laskov who was forced by the Skull to choose between killing Nikolai with a pair of scissors or their baby son would be killed by the Skull and his men. She chose to kill her husband who died after an hour of screaming and being stabbed to death, but the Skull reneged on the choice and decided to simply toss the baby out a window to its death. After that the Skull had his men rape Petra for the rest of the day just to send a message.]]

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* The Red Skull is the poster boy for this series. [[spoiler:He's the illegitimate son of Captain America from his one-night stand with past girlfriend Gail Richards before going off to the Second World War and disappearing. Gail gave up the Skull to protect Cap's memory under the false promise of him being given to an all-American family to be raised peacefully, but was instead taken to a base where he would be strenuously trained as the next Captain America. After years of resenting his training and being a tool of the US government, he escaped at 17 years old after killing 247 soldiers in a variety of gruesome ways and cutting the skin off his own face in the appearance of a fleshy skull to no longer look resemble his absent father. After that his escape, he went on to become a freelance mercenary in the employ of some of the worst dictators of the 20th century such as Pol Pot and Idi Amin as well as part of drug-running operations and terror-training for Afghanistan and the Russian Army. He was even the one who killed assassinated President John F. Kennedy just to show that he was no longer taking orders from the US Government]]
* Everything about Petra Laskov's backstory.[[spoiler: She was the wife of Georgina Georgian activist and enemy of the Skull's employers, Nikolai Laskov who Laskov, and was forced by the Skull to choose between killing Nikolai with a pair of scissors or their baby son would be killed by the Skull and his men. She chose to kill her husband who died after an hour of screaming and being stabbed to death, but the Skull reneged on the choice deal and decided to simply toss the baby out a window to its death. After that the Skull had his men rape Petra for the rest of the day just to send a message.]]
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* The Red Skull is the poster boy for this series. [[spoiler:He's the illegitimate son of Captain America from his one-night stand with past girlfriend Gail Richards before going off to the Second World War and disappearing. Gail gave up the Skull to protect Cap's memory under the false promise of him being given to an all-American family to be raised peacefully, but was instead taken to a base where he would be strenuously trained as the next Captain America. After years of resenting his training and being a tool of the US government, he escaped at 17 years old after killing 247 soldiers in a variety of gruesome ways and cutting the skin off his own face in the appearance of a fleshy skull to no longer look his father. After that he went on to become freelance mercenary in the employ of some of the worst dictators of the 20th century such as Pol Pot and Idi Amin as well as drug-running and terror-training for Afghanistan and Russian Army. He was even the one who killed President John F. Kennedy just to show that he could.]]
* Everything about Petra Laskov's backstory.

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* The Red Skull is the poster boy for this series. [[spoiler:He's the illegitimate son of Captain America from his one-night stand with past girlfriend Gail Richards before going off to the Second World War and disappearing. Gail gave up the Skull to protect Cap's memory under the false promise of him being given to an all-American family to be raised peacefully, but was instead taken to a base where he would be strenuously trained as the next Captain America. After years of resenting his training and being a tool of the US government, he escaped at 17 years old after killing 247 soldiers in a variety of gruesome ways and cutting the skin off his own face in the appearance of a fleshy skull to no longer look his father. After that he went on to become freelance mercenary in the employ of some of the worst dictators of the 20th century such as Pol Pot and Idi Amin as well as drug-running and terror-training for Afghanistan and Russian Army. He was even the one who killed President John F. Kennedy just to show that he could.]]
was no longer taking orders from the US Government]]
* Everything about Petra Laskov's backstory.[[spoiler: She was the wife of Georgina activist and enemy of the Skull's employers, Nikolai Laskov who was forced by the Skull to choose between killing Nikolai with a pair of scissors or their baby son would be killed by the Skull and his men. She chose to kill her husband who died after an hour of screaming and being stabbed to death, but the Skull reneged on the choice and decided to simply toss the baby out a window to its death. After that the Skull had his men rape Petra for the rest of the day just to send a message.]]
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Avenger]]
* The Red Skull is the poster boy for this series. [[spoiler:He's the illegitimate son of Captain America from his one-night stand with past girlfriend Gail Richards before going off to the Second World War and disappearing. Gail gave up the Skull to protect Cap's memory under the false promise of him being given to an all-American family to be raised peacefully, but was instead taken to a base where he would be strenuously trained as the next Captain America. After years of resenting his training and being a tool of the US government, he escaped at 17 years old after killing 247 soldiers in a variety of gruesome ways and cutting the skin off his own face in the appearance of a fleshy skull to no longer look his father. After that he went on to become freelance mercenary in the employ of some of the worst dictators of the 20th century such as Pol Pot and Idi Amin as well as drug-running and terror-training for Afghanistan and Russian Army. He was even the one who killed President John F. Kennedy just to show that he could.]]
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* The Hulk is described to be in-verse nightmare fuel due to being a nigh-unstoppable rampaging monster with a penchant for cannibalism, murder, and implied rape. His first rampage killed dozens of people and nearly tore the Ultimates apart.

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* The Hulk is described to be in-verse nightmare fuel due to being a nigh-unstoppable rampaging monster with a penchant for cannibalism, murder, and implied rape. His first rampage killed dozens hundreds of people and nearly tore the Ultimates apart.
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* The Hulk is described to be in-verse nightmare fuel due to being a nigh-unstoppable rampaging monster with a penchant for cannibalism, murder, and implied rape. His first rampage killed dozens of people and nearly tore the Ultimates apart.



* The Red Skull is the poster boy for this series.
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* The Chitauri. You know that office building around the corner? It could be full of Chitauri. Your boss? Chitauri. The general at that army base down the way? Chitauri. And they've been here for years. And they want to make the world better. By putting drugs in the water that will lobotomize everyone. [[spoiler:And if they run out of time for that, they're perfectly willing to destroy Earth.]] While the drones are vulnerable to standard guns, the officers aren't. At least, they have a HealingFactor. And how do they take on peoples' appearances and powers? By eating them. We even get to see [[BodyHorror what happens during a]] GlamourFailure. The only way to take out their leader is [[spoiler:for Hulk to tear him apart and eat him. Bruce Banner's still pooping Chitauri bits later, and SHIELD takes no chances with them.]]
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* Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stunned, and helpless Wasp'']]? No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[SayMyName HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either {{narm}}y nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely {{justified|Trope}}. The equally horrified look on her face, combined with what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of what your age is.
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* Everything about Petra Laskov's backstory.
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