History NightmareFuel / TheHunchbackOfNotreDame

19th Sep '17 4:33:34 AM Shadowgazer
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5th Sep '17 11:39:58 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Cant forget Phoebus first meeting Judge Frollo, in the castle torture chamber, where you get to hear the sound of the previous captain of the guard being ''tortured to death''. Frollo even advices the TortureTechnician to whip his victim slower, because doing it too fast will make the new pain drown out the old one (which he speaks of [[ButForMeItWasTuesday in the most eerily casual manner possible]]). Oh, and WHAT was the captains crime? "Disappointing" Frollo.

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** Cant Can't forget Phoebus first meeting Judge Frollo, in the castle torture chamber, where you get to hear the sound of the previous captain of the guard being ''tortured to death''. Frollo even advices the TortureTechnician to whip [[ATasteOfTheLash whip]] his victim slower, because doing it too fast will make the new pain drown out the old one (which he speaks of [[ButForMeItWasTuesday in the most eerily casual manner possible]]). Oh, and WHAT was the captains captain's crime? "Disappointing" Frollo.
1st Sep '17 7:32:57 AM cwf123
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** Tony Jay's voice for Frollo counts, making his song more frightening.
21st Aug '17 12:45:50 AM matteste
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*** The [[https://youtu.be/cNbv7fFNYMU?t=2m13s Swedish version]] manages to be very unnerving with his [[LaughingMad laugh now]] sounding not only deranged like in the original, but also like it comes from the very pits of hell itself.
23rd Jul '17 10:20:45 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Also [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/vlcsnap_2017_04_21_19h35m39s204.png this one]] Seems to be staring at The Viewer instead of Frollo

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** Also [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/vlcsnap_2017_04_21_19h35m39s204.png this one]] Seems seems to be staring at The Viewer the viewer instead of Frollo
23rd Jul '17 10:19:55 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Imagine for a moment you are one of the soldiers under Frollo's command. Specifically, one of those attacking the Cathedral. You've stuck by the Judge through all of his monstrosities. The city is in revolt, the Cathedral is throwing beams, stone and molten lead at you. All of this is explainable. Then the birds attack, and everything is put into perspective. The Cathedral isn't attacking you. God is, and now the Devil has a claim on your soul. Pious or not, that would be terrifying.

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* Imagine for a moment you are one of the soldiers under Frollo's command. Specifically, one of those attacking the Cathedral. You've stuck by the Judge through all of his monstrosities. The city is in revolt, the Cathedral is throwing beams, stone and molten lead at you. All of this is explainable. Then the birds attack, and everything is put into perspective. The Cathedral isn't attacking you. God {{God}} is, and now [[{{Satan}} the Devil Devil]] has a claim on your soul. Pious or not, that would be terrifying.



-->'''Frollo:''' I have been...''taking care'' of the Gypsies. (''crushes some ants under a finger with each word'') One...by...''one.'' Yet, for all my success, they have ''thrived''! *pulls off a tile to reveal an ants nest* I believe that they have a safe haven within the walls of this very city...a ''[[ItIsDehumanizing nest]]'' if you will. They call it the (''incredulous scoff'') "Court of Miracles"...

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-->'''Frollo:''' I have been...''taking care'' of the Gypsies. (''crushes some ants under a finger with each word'') One...by...''one.'' Yet, for all my success, they have ''thrived''! *pulls off a tile to reveal an ants nest* I believe that they have a safe haven within the walls of this very city...a ''[[ItIsDehumanizing ''[[{{Dehumanization}} nest]]'' if you will. They call it the (''incredulous scoff'') "Court of Miracles"...
5th Jul '17 12:36:33 PM creader
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* As controversial as the sequel to the movie is, it does have the genuinely frightening [[{{Narcissist}} Sarousch]], whose treatment of Madeleine reeks of [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. Also chilling is the AdultFear-riddled sequence where Sarousch holds [[WouldHurtAChild Zephyr hostage to ensure his safe escape]]; Zephyr sounds legitimately terrified when his father (who he had previously bragged about and clearly idolizes) does nothing to help him despite Zephyr crying out to both him and Esmeralda and both parents are understandably beside themselves with worry.
** Sarousch in general outdoes Frollo himself in being sadistic and threatening, which is no mean feat.
22nd Jun '17 8:59:20 AM Dravencour
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* The burning of the miller's house just because he and his family were supposedly hiding gypsies. Said family included at least one child and a ''baby''.

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* The burning of the miller's house just because he and his family were supposedly hiding gypsies. Said family included at least one child and a ''baby''. Frollo even tries to make Phoebus carry out the evil deed (which he ''very'' understandably refuses to do), and then tries to execute him when he rescues the people involved.
22nd Jun '17 8:54:25 AM Dravencour
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** During the opening sequence, Frollo looks positively ''demonic'' as he chases down and ultimately ''kills'' Quasimodo's poor mother, a Gypsy he thinks has stolen something. There's no discretion either--you get to see Frollo kill her ''on-screen''. And if not for the Archdeacon's intervention would very well have murdered baby Quasimodo himself as well. And what's worse is that Frollo thinks he is guiltless and in the right!
*** Heck, the way he talks about it with the Archdeacon. He's very much treating the whole situation as if it's just any other day for him, just another part of his job. That someone could be so casual about killing and woman and then trying to drown their child is chilling.

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** During the opening sequence, Frollo looks positively ''demonic'' as he chases down and ultimately ''kills'' Quasimodo's poor mother, a Gypsy he thinks has stolen something. There's no discretion either--you get to see Frollo kill her ''on-screen''. And if not for the Archdeacon's intervention intervention, this guy would very well have murdered baby Quasimodo himself as well. And what's worse is that Frollo thinks he is guiltless and in the right!
*** Heck, the way he talks about it with the Archdeacon. He's very much treating the whole situation as if it's just any other day for him, just another part of his job. That someone could be so casual about killing and a woman and then trying to drown their child her child, "monster" or not, is chilling.



*** Frollo is interrupted mid-song by one one his minions, who's telling him that Esmeralda has disappeared from the Cathedral. What makes this moment truly disturbing is that Frollo, for one moment, looks like he's forgotten where he is, and what he's doing.
---> '''Soldier''': The gypsy has escaped!

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*** Frollo is interrupted mid-song by one one of his minions, who's telling him that Esmeralda has disappeared from the Cathedral. What makes this moment truly disturbing is that Frollo, for one moment, looks like he's forgotten where he is, and what he's doing.
---> '''Soldier''': The Minister Frollo, the gypsy has escaped!



---> '''Frollo''': But ''how''?! I- nevermind...Get out, you idiot! I'll find her. '''I'LL FIND HER IF I HAVE TO BURN DOWN ALL OF PARIS!!'''

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---> '''Frollo''': But ''how''?! I- nevermind...Get get out, you idiot! I'll find her. '''I'LL FIND HER IF I HAVE TO BURN DOWN ALL OF PARIS!!'''
22nd Jun '17 8:52:16 AM Dravencour
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*** It also echoes uncomfortably close to modern day, with modern third world citizens who desperatly seek passage to a better life in nations who mercilessly exploit them like slaves, only to run afoul of monsters like Frollo who treat them like human refuse for daring to even exist.

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*** It also echoes uncomfortably close to modern day, with modern third world citizens who desperatly seek passage to a better life in nations who mercilessly exploit them like slaves, only to run afoul of monsters like Frollo who treat them like human refuse for daring to even exist.''[[FeelingOppressedByTheirExistence exist]]''.



*** Cant forget the hellish monk choir draped in red robes who provides the chorus of ''Mea Culpa''. (Translates to "my sin, my sin, my most griveous sin")

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*** Cant forget the hellish monk choir draped in red robes who provides the chorus of ''Mea Culpa''. (Translates to "my sin, fault, my sin, fault, my most griveous sin")grievous fault")



*** Frollo is interrupted mid-song by one one his minions, who's telling him that Esmeralda has disappeaered from the Cathedral. What makes this moment truly disturbing is that Frollo, for one moment, looks like he's forgotten where he is, and what he's doing.

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*** Frollo is interrupted mid-song by one one his minions, who's telling him that Esmeralda has disappeaered disappeared from the Cathedral. What makes this moment truly disturbing is that Frollo, for one moment, looks like he's forgotten where he is, and what he's doing.



---> '''Frollo''': But ''how''?! I- nevermind, you idiot! Get out! I'll find her, '''I'LL FIND HER IF I HAVE TO BURN DOWN ALL OF PARIS!!'''

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---> '''Frollo''': But ''how''?! I- nevermind, nevermind...Get out, you idiot! Get out! I'll find her, her. '''I'LL FIND HER IF I HAVE TO BURN DOWN ALL OF PARIS!!'''



** The scene where Frollo explains his viewpoint of the Romani people to Phoebus. Hello, blatant genocide metaphor in a ''family-friendly movie.'' (Especially bad for those of hus who's relativs were, and continue to be, opressed by anti-Romani sentiment. It never ends...)

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** The scene where Frollo explains his viewpoint of the Romani people to Phoebus. Hello, blatant genocide metaphor in a ''family-friendly movie.'' (Especially bad for those of hus who's relativs us whose relatives were, and continue to be, opressed oppressed by anti-Romani sentiment. It never ends...)



** Sarousch In General seems to be more Sadistic and Threatening than Frollo

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** Sarousch In General seems to be more Sadistic in general outdoes Frollo himself in being sadistic and Threatening than Frollothreatening, which is no mean feat.
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