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** Over the course of the episode, learning the true nature of how the hospital is run and the heavy hinting at Beth's [[SexSlave most valuable purpose]] for being there.

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** Over the course of the episode, learning the true nature of how the hospital is run and the heavy subtle hinting at Beth's [[SexSlave most valuable valued purpose]] for being there.

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* The trough room in the season premiere. The main characters are at the back of the line as redshirt captives are being slit one by one. [[spoiler: Glenn was only seconds away from joining them.]] Plus [[spoiler: the butchered human torso]].

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* The trough room in the season premiere. The main characters are at the back of the line as redshirt captives are being slit one by one. [[spoiler: Glenn was only seconds away from joining them.]] Plus [[spoiler: the butchered human torso]].body parts in the next room]].


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** Over the course of the episode, learning the true nature of how the hospital is run and the heavy hinting at Beth's [[SexSlave most valuable purpose]] for being there.
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* During her assault on Terminus, Carol comes across items the Terminants took from the people [[spoiler:they ate]]. Among them is an entire table full of [[WouldHurtAChild stuffed animals and other toys]].
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* There is just something very unsettling about Abraham's HairTriggerTemper seen during the course of early Season 5. [[spoiler:Nearly killing Eugene after he had lied to him and been found out, Abraham just goes off on him and beats the holy hell out of him for lying.]]
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* The trough room in the season premiere. The main characters are at the back of the line as redshirt captives are being slit one by one. [[spoiler: Glenn was only seconds away from joining them.]] Plus [[spoiler: the butchered human torso]].
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* Beth's ordeal during "Slabtown": [[spoiler: held against her will for god knows how long, nearly raped, then tricked into assisting in the murder of an innocent man.]]
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* Seeing [[spoiler: Dale ]] get torn open in the stomach by a walker while he screams, his friends are too far away to help.

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* Seeing [[spoiler: Dale ]] Dale]] get torn open in the stomach by a walker while he screams, his friends are too far away to help.
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* In "Four Walls and a Roof", Rick, Michonne, Sasha and Abraham [[spoiler: savage the Hunters to death with rifle butts, knives and machetes]], inside a church no less.
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!!Season 5
* The ending of "Strangers", where Bob finds himself [[spoiler: captured by the Terminus survivors]], and gets an excellent view of the group [[spoiler: cooking and eating his leg.]]

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* Rick's nightmare shortly after [[spoiler:the fall of the prison.]] The world is like it was before the apocalypse and Rick saves Carl from walking in front of a car only to go inside and start making out with Lori. Things then turn gruesome as [[spoiler:Lori turns into a zombie and begins taunting him over the fact that he couldn't save her, all while eating him alive. What makes it really horrible is how Rick doesn't fight back and just agrees with her.]]
-->"I deserve this... it's okay... I deserve this..."



* Rick's nightmare shortly after [[spoiler:the fall of the prison.]] The world is like it was before the apocalypse and Rick saves Carl from walking in front of a car only to go inside and start making out with Lori. Things then turn gruesome as [[spoiler:Lori turns into a zombie and begins taunting him over the fact that he couldn't save her, all while eating him alive. What makes it really horrible is how Rick doesn't fight back and just agrees with her.]]
-->"I deserve this... it's okay... I deserve this..."

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* Rick's nightmare shortly after [[spoiler:the fall of the prison.]] The world is like it was before the apocalypse and Rick saves Carl from walking in front of a car only to go inside and start making out with Lori. Things then turn gruesome as [[spoiler:Lori turns into a zombie and begins taunting him over the fact ** [[spoiler:The reality, that he couldn't save her, all while eating him alive. What makes it really horrible is how Rick doesn't fight back and just agrees with her.]]
-->"I deserve this... it's okay... I deserve this..."
a group of survivors who are wearing the zombies' flesh as disguises, is not much better.]]
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* [[spoiler:Kenny trying to murder Jane and possibly succeeding to do so.]]
** This scene really needs to be talked about in more detail. [[spoiler: After navigating through a blizzard, Clementine meets up with Kenny and Jane, the only other group members left. When Kenny notices that Alvin Jr is missing, he questions Jane, who hesitates. Kenny then [[BerserkButton snaps]] and starts trying to kill Jane. She fights back and one of the most intense fights in the series starts. Meanwhile, Clementine is trying desperately to stop what little of her friends are left from murdering each other, but they don't stop. Eventually Kenny gets the upper hand and tries to stab Jane with her own knife. Clementine notices a gun and grabs it. We then get a [[SarcasmMode lovely]] SadisticChoice kill Kenny or let him kill Jane. A TearJerker to be sure, but its over now, right. [[FromBadToWorse ''of course not!'']] Because ''now'' it turns out that Alvin Jr is alive, and the whole thing was set up by Jane to provke Kenny into snapping.]] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Holy. Fuck.]]
* [[spoiler:Jane has some...unsettling favoring to Clementine in Episode 5. She downright has Kenny purposely lose it on her just so Clementine will choose her instead. She probably didn't expect you to possibly kill him, but she just says that it needed to be done. Geez...]]

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* [[spoiler:Kenny trying to murder Jane upon thinking that she let AJ die, and possibly succeeding to do so.so if the player doesn't intervene.]]
** This scene really needs to be talked about in more detail. [[spoiler: After navigating through a blizzard, Clementine meets up with Kenny and Jane, the only other group members left. When Kenny notices that Alvin Jr is missing, he questions Jane, who hesitates. Kenny then [[BerserkButton snaps]] and starts trying to kill Jane. She fights back and one of the most intense fights in the series starts. Meanwhile, Clementine is trying desperately to stop what little of her friends are left from murdering each other, but they don't stop. Eventually Kenny gets the upper hand and tries to stab Jane with her own knife. Clementine notices a gun and grabs it. We then get a [[SarcasmMode lovely]] SadisticChoice SadisticChoice: kill Kenny or let him kill Jane. A TearJerker to be sure, but its over now, right. [[FromBadToWorse ''of course not!'']] Because ''now'' it turns out that Alvin Jr is alive, and the whole thing was set up by Jane to provke Kenny into snapping.]] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Holy. Fuck.]]
* [[spoiler:Jane has some...some unsettling favoring to Clementine in Episode 5. She downright has intentionally pushes Kenny purposely lose it on her beyond his limits just so Clementine will choose her instead. She probably see what a monster he has become. However, she didn't expect you Kenny to possibly kill him, but she just says that it needed to be done. Geez...lash out quite as much as he did.]]
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* Lilly's group finding a wrecked school bus on the side of the road, along with a horde of walkers eating the remains of the children who were inside it.
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[[folder:The Books]]
!!Rise Of The Governor

!!Road To Woodbury

* Josh revealing what happened to his mother to Lilly. [[spoiler:When he got home from work he found a SWAT and hazmat team investigating and quarantining his apartment. He immediately rushes up stairs to find the room, in his own words, "painted with blood" along with his mothers remains scattered about over the table. What makes it worse is that she let the walkers in, thinking they were raggedy homeless people only to have them devour her alive.]] Josh is understandably reduced to tears.

!!Fall Of The Governor
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* Rick's nightmare shortly after [[spoiler:the fall of the prison.]] The world is like it was before the apocalypse and Rick saves Carl from walking in front of a car only to go inside and start making out with Lori. Things then turn gruesome as [[spoiler:Lori turns into a zombie and begins taunting him over the fact that he couldn't save her, all while eating him alive. What makes it really horrible is how Rick doesn't fight back and just agrees with her.]]
-->"I deserve this... it's okay... I deserve this..."
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* "I heard whispers, and I was afraid. [[spoiler: It was the dead. they were ''speaking''.]]"

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* "I heard whispers, and I was afraid. [[spoiler: It was the dead. they They were ''speaking''.]]"
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* "I heard whispers, and I was afraid. [[spoiler: It was the dead. they were ''speaking''.]]"
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* When [[spoiler: Lee gets his infected left arm amputated. The game does not treat you to just a cutscene and poof! Lee has a stump for a left arm, oh no! It treats you to a brutal, graphic scene of Christa having to ''saw through his Goddamned arm with a saw'' all while he's screaming in pain. If there was any consolation, it's that Christa and the others do not take pleasure in having to put Lee through this.]]

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* When [[spoiler: Lee gets his infected left arm amputated. The game does not treat you to just a cutscene and poof! Lee has a stump for a left arm, oh no! It treats you to a brutal, graphic scene of Christa Christa, Kenny or LEE HIMSELF having to ''saw through his Goddamned arm with a saw'' all while he's screaming in pain. If there was any consolation, it's that Christa and the others do not take pleasure in having to put Lee through this.]]
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** [[spoiler: Let Kenny Live]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. was alive all along, and it was a ploy by Jane to reveal Kenny's insanity to Clem. While this makes Kenny finally realize his failings and try to improve himself, it's still clear that he's far from okay, and it took him actually killing someone in a fit of anger to realize it.]]

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** [[spoiler: Let Kenny Live]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. was alive all along, and it was a ploy by Jane to reveal Kenny's insanity to Clem. While this makes Kenny finally realize his failings and try to improve himself, it's still clear that he's far from okay, and it took him actually killing someone in a fit of anger to realize it. Despite this, Clem decides to forgive him, and they march forward to Wellington.]]



** [[spoiler: Stay With Jane]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. is still alive, but now the aftermath has changed - Kenny has died for nothing, and Jane's reasoning is shaky at best. Even ''she'' seems distraught by the outcome - depending on your dialogue choices, she may tearfully admit that she never should have done it, and wasn't thinking straight at all.]]

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** [[spoiler: Stay With Jane]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. is still alive, but now the aftermath has changed - Kenny has died for nothing, and Jane's reasoning is shaky at best. Even ''she'' seems distraught by the outcome - depending on your dialogue choices, she may tearfully admit that it was a terrible, pointless plan, and that she never should have done it, gone through with it. Despite this, Clem decides to forgive her and wasn't thinking straight at all.return to Howes'.]]
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** This scene really needs to be talked about in more detail. [[spoiler: After navigating through a blizzard, Clementine meets up with Kenny and Jane, the only other group members left. When Kenny notices that Alvin Jr is missing, he questions Jane, who hesitates. Kenny then [[BerserkButton snaps]] and starts trying to kill Jane. She fights back and one of the most intense fights in the series starts. Meanwhile, Clementine is trying desperately to stop what little of her friends are left from murdering each other, but they don't stop. Eventually Kenny gets the upper hand and tries to stab Jane with her own knife. Clementine notices a gun and grabs it. We then get a [[SarcasmMode lovely]] SadisticChoice kill Kenny or let him kill Jane. A TearJerker to be sure, but its over now, right. [[FromBadToWorse ''of course not!'']] Because ''now'' it turns out that Alvin Jr is alive, and the whole thing was set up by Jane to provke Kenny into snapping.]] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Holy. Fuck.]]
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** [[spoiler: Stay With Jane]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. is still alive, but now the aftermath has changed - Kenny has died for nothing, and Jane's reasoning is shaky at best. Even she seems distraught by the outcome - depending on your dialogue choices, she tearfully admits that she hadn't thought it through at all, and didn't want things to end this way.]]

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** [[spoiler: Stay With Jane]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. is still alive, but now the aftermath has changed - Kenny has died for nothing, and Jane's reasoning is shaky at best. Even she ''she'' seems distraught by the outcome - depending on your dialogue choices, she may tearfully admits admit that she hadn't thought it through at all, never should have done it, and didn't want things to end this way.wasn't thinking straight at all.]]
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** [[spoiler: Let Kenny Live]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. was alive all along, and it was a ploy by Jane to reveal Kenny's insanity to Clem. While this makes Kenny finally realize his failings and try to improve himself, it's still clear that he's far from okay.]]

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** [[spoiler: Let Kenny Live]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. was alive all along, and it was a ploy by Jane to reveal Kenny's insanity to Clem. While this makes Kenny finally realize his failings and try to improve himself, it's still clear that he's far from okay.okay, and it took him actually killing someone in a fit of anger to realize it.]]



** [[spoiler: Stay With Jane]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. is still alive, but now the context has changed - Kenny has died for nothing, and Jane's reasoning is shaky at best. Even she seems distraught by the outcome - depending on your dialogue choices, she tearfully admits that she hadn't thought it through at all, and never meant for it to turn out this way.]]

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** [[spoiler: Stay With Jane]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. is still alive, but now the context aftermath has changed - Kenny has died for nothing, and Jane's reasoning is shaky at best. Even she seems distraught by the outcome - depending on your dialogue choices, she tearfully admits that she hadn't thought it through at all, and never meant for it didn't want things to turn out end this way.]]
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Jane is still not innocent: innocent people don\'t lie to pick fights. That\'s called provocation


** [[spoiler: Let Kenny Live]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. was alive all along, and it was a ploy by Jane to reveal Kenny's insanity to Clem. While this makes Kenny finally realize his failings and try to improve himself, it's still clear that he's far from okay, and it took him killing a (somewhat) innocent person to realize it.]]

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** [[spoiler: Let Kenny Live]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. was alive all along, and it was a ploy by Jane to reveal Kenny's insanity to Clem. While this makes Kenny finally realize his failings and try to improve himself, it's still clear that he's far from okay, and it took him killing a (somewhat) innocent person to realize it.okay.]]
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** [[spoiler: Go it Alone]]: [[spoiler: The bleakest of all the endings, Clementine is left alone in the wilderness with Alvin Jr., silently and coldly dealing with walkers as she presses forward. The lack of dialogue or multiple outcomes, along with the short length, leaves a destitute feeling of hopelessness, and little else.]]

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** [[spoiler: Go it Alone]]: [[spoiler: The bleakest of all the endings, Clementine is left alone in the wilderness with Alvin Jr., silently and coldly dealing with walkers as she presses forward. The the short length and lack of dialogue or multiple outcomes, along with the short length, outcomes leaves a destitute hollow feeling of hopelessness, and little else.]]
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* [[spoiler: Heck, ''all'' the ending variations offer some, in varying degrees of severity.]]
** [[spoiler: Let Kenny Live]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. was alive all along, and it was a ploy by Jane to reveal Kenny's insanity to Clem. While this makes Kenny finally realize his failings and try to improve himself, it's still clear that he's far from okay, and it took him killing a (somewhat) innocent person to realize it.]]
*** [[spoiler: Stay with Kenny]]: [[spoiler: While the gate guard attempts to raise Kenny and Clem's hopes, it's unclear whether they'll get another chance at entering Wellington, meaning they could easily die in the cold, all for nothing.]]
*** [[spoiler: Stay at Wellington]]: [[spoiler: While Wellington is arguably the most secure, well-off place in Walking Dead canon, it's unclear whether this is a good thing - their initial refusal to allow Kenny, Clem and Alvin Jr. entry implies a sense of pragmatism similar to Carver and Crawford. On top of that, Kenny will probably die alone, never seeing Clem again.]]
** [[spoiler: Stay With Jane]]: [[spoiler: Alvin Jr. is still alive, but now the context has changed - Kenny has died for nothing, and Jane's reasoning is shaky at best. Even she seems distraught by the outcome - depending on your dialogue choices, she tearfully admits that she hadn't thought it through at all, and never meant for it to turn out this way.]]
*** [[spoiler: Let The Family In]]: [[spoiler: While the family is certainly friendly, and they seem willing to help with rebuilding Howes', Clem appears fearful - indeed, the family's dialogue and Clem's reactions to it seems to imply that the father is very much like Kenny was before his family died, meaning that everything could easily come full-circle.]]
*** [[spoiler: Turn The Family Away]]: [[spoiler: Clem's threatening response to the family and cold implication that she'll kill them if they come back shows how far she has fallen since the season's beginning, indicating a dark future for the poor girl.]]
** [[spoiler: Go it Alone]]: [[spoiler: The bleakest of all the endings, Clementine is left alone in the wilderness with Alvin Jr., silently and coldly dealing with walkers as she presses forward. The lack of dialogue or multiple outcomes, along with the short length, leaves a destitute feeling of hopelessness, and little else.]]
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** It's also a lot worse if you're first thought is that [[spoiler:the following dream is a Death Dream.]]

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** It's also a lot worse if you're your first thought is that [[spoiler:the following dream is a Death Dream.]]
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** It's also a lot worse if you're first thought is that [[spoiler:the following dream is a Death Dream.]]
* [[spoiler:Luke either drowning or being pulled down by a walker in the lake.]]
* [[spoiler:Kenny trying to murder Jane and possibly succeeding to do so.]]
* [[spoiler:Jane has some...unsettling favoring to Clementine in Episode 5. She downright has Kenny purposely lose it on her just so Clementine will choose her instead. She probably didn't expect you to possibly kill him, but she just says that it needed to be done. Geez...]]
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* At the mid-point of Episode 5 - [[spoiler: Clementine is shot by a vindictive Arvo]].
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* [[spoiler:Kenny]] yelling and cursing at Clementine for [[spoiler: Sarita's death]]. Especially since it seemed like something he would never, ever do. He really '''has''' crossed the DespairEventHorizon.

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* [[spoiler:Kenny]] yelling and cursing at Clementine for [[spoiler: Sarita's death]].death (which he will blame you for regardless of choice. Either from trying to help her by hacking off her wrist or not helping her quicker]]. Especially since it seemed like something he would never, ever do. He really '''has''' crossed the DespairEventHorizon.
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*A recently released vine teaser for Episode 5 shows a clip of a struggling Clementine trudging through what appears to be a blizzard. If the overall eerie environment and lack of any other people isn't unsettling, the creepy Music Box-esque "My Darling Clementine" playing sure is.
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* The Governor's [[spoiler: final attack on the prison. He does this by nearly decapitating Herchel, then ''finishing the job'' and does a brutal, NoHoldsBarredBeatdown on Rick and nearly strangles him to death.]]

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* The Governor's [[spoiler: final attack on the prison. He does this by nearly decapitating Herchel, Hershel, then ''finishing the job'' and does a brutal, NoHoldsBarredBeatdown on Rick and nearly strangles him to death.]]

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