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* Horde Prime has no qualms with using mind control chips for turn people into drones similar to his clones, and turn them against their friends.
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* A sneak peak preview showcases Horde Prime's FauxAffablyEvil and ManipulativeBastard tendencies by [[NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine sharing dinner with Glimmer and Catra]], during which Glimmer is treated to a tasty dish; he then casually remarks that the dish is rare because it came from a realm that no longer exists, causing Glimmer to drop her spoon. He even goes out of his way to compare the realm in question to Etheria, and then immediately after Glimmer declines seconds opts to show her the current status of her homeworld- that being utter chaos, with everything in flames and her friends struggling to survive as Horde Prime's forces conquer it; he does all of this while maintaining a calm and even tone [[LackOfEmpathy and giving no regard for Glimmer's obvious distress]]. The intent is clear; Horde Prime ''wanted'' her to cave and reveal everything she knows about the Heart of Etheria.
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* A sneak peak preview showcases The first episode demonstrates Horde Prime's FauxAffablyEvil and ManipulativeBastard tendencies by [[NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine sharing dinner with Glimmer and Catra]], during which Glimmer is treated to a tasty dish; he then casually remarks that the dish is rare because it came from a realm that no longer exists, causing Glimmer to drop her spoon. He even goes out of his way to compare the realm in question to Etheria, and then immediately after Glimmer declines seconds opts to show her the current status of her homeworld- that being utter chaos, with everything in flames and her friends struggling to survive as Horde Prime's forces conquer it; he does all of this while maintaining a calm and even tone [[LackOfEmpathy and giving no regard for Glimmer's obvious distress]]. The intent is clear; Horde Prime ''wanted'' her to cave and reveal everything she knows about the Heart of Etheria.Etheria.
** Immediately afterward, when Catra tries to pal up to Prime, he makes it clear that making Glimmer cave has instantly made Catra ''useless'', costing her the only advantage she had. Catra's knack for survival and manipulation is rendered moot within ''days'' of her alliance with Prime.
** Immediately afterward, when Catra tries to pal up to Prime, he makes it clear that making Glimmer cave has instantly made Catra ''useless'', costing her the only advantage she had. Catra's knack for survival and manipulation is rendered moot within ''days'' of her alliance with Prime.
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* A sneak peak preview showcases Horde Prime's FauxAffablyEvil and ManipulativeBastard tendencies by [[NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine sharing dinner with Glimmer and Catra]], during which Glimmer is treated to a tasty dish; he then casually remarks that the dish is rare because it came from a realm that no longer exists, causing Glimmer to drop her spoon. He even goes out of his way to compare the realm in question to Etheria, and then immediately after Glimmer declines seconds opts to show her the current status of her homeworld- that being utter chaos, with everything in flames and her friends struggling to survive as Horde Prime's forces conquer it; he does all of this while maintaining a calm and even tone [[LackOfEmpathy and giving no regard for Glimmer's obvious distress]]. The intent is clear; Horde Prime ''wanted'' her to cave and reveal everything she knows about the Heart of Etheria.
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* A sneak peak preview showcases Horde Prime's FauxAffablyEvil tendencies by [[NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine sharing dinner with Glimmer and Catra]], during which Glimmer is treated to a tasty dish; he then casually remarks that the dish is rare because it came from a realm that no longer exists, causing Glimmer to drop her spoon. He even goes out of his way to compare the realm in question to Etheria, and then immediately after Glimmer declines seconds opts to show her the current status of her homeworld- that being utter chaos, with everything in flames and her friends struggling to survive as Horde Prime's forces conquer it; he does all of this while maintaining a calm and even tone [[LackOfEmpathy and giving no regard for Glimmer's obvious distress]]. The intent is clear; Horde Prime ''wanted'' her to cave and reveal everything she knows about the Heart of Etheria.
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* A sneak peak preview showcases Horde Prime's FauxAffablyEvil tendencies by [[NoMrNondIExpectYouToDine [[NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine sharing dinner with Glimmer and Catra]], during which Glimmer is treated to a tasty dish; he then casually remarks that the dish is rare because it came from a realm that no longer exists, causing Glimmer to drop her spoon. He even goes out of his way to compare the realm in question to Etheria, and then immediately after Glimmer declines seconds opts to show her the current status of her homeworld- that being utter chaos, with everything in flames and her friends struggling to survive as Horde Prime's forces conquer it; he does all of this while maintaining a calm and even tone [[LackOfEmpathy and giving no regard for Glimmer's obvious distress]].
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* A sneak peak preview showcases Horde Prime's FauxAffablyEvil tendencies by giving [[NoMrNondIExpectYouToDine sharing dinner with Glimmer and Catra]], during which Glimmer is treated to a tasty dish, dish; he then casually remarking remarks that the dish is rare because it came from a realm that no longer exists, causing Glimmer to drop her spoon. He even goes out of his way to compare the realm in question to Etheria, and then immediately after Glimmer declines seconds opts to show her the current status of her homeworld- that being utter chaos, with everything in flames and her friends struggling to survive as Horde Prime's forces conquer it; he does all of this while maintaining a calm and even tone [[LackOfEmpathy and giving no regard for Glimmer's obvious distress]].
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* A sneak peak preview showcases Horde Prime's FauxAffablyEvil tendencies by giving Glimmer a tasty dish, then casually remarking that the dish is rare because it came from a realm that no longer exists, causing Glimmer to drop her spoon. He even goes out of his way to compare the realm in question to Etheria, and then immediately after Glimmer declines seconds opts to show her the current status of her homeworld- that being utter chaos, with everything in flames and her friends struggling to survive as Horde Prime's forces conquer it; he does all of this while maintaining a calm and even tone [[LackOfEmpathy and giving no regard for Glimmer's obvious distress]].
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* Another scene in the season 5 trailer shows a clone soldier standing in a pool of green liquid. He's engulfed in a cloud of green gas. What the liquid and gas do is unknown, but the visual alone is disturbing.
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* Another scene in the season 5 trailer shows a clone soldier standing in a pool of green liquid. He's A moment later, he's engulfed in a cloud of green gas. What the liquid and gas do is unknown, but the visual alone is disturbing.disturbing.
* The trailer also features a shot of Horde Prime with long tubes full of green liquid attached to the base of his skull. His expression is furious.
* The trailer also features a shot of Horde Prime with long tubes full of green liquid attached to the base of his skull. His expression is furious.
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* In the season 5 trailer, Catra is in Horde Prime's spaceship, looking out a window at Etheria below. Etheria's landscape is dotted with explosions, suggesting that Horde Prime's forces are inflicting massive damage.
* Another scene in the season 5 trailer shows a clone soldier standing in a pool of green liquid. He's engulfed in a cloud of green gas. What the liquid and gas do is unknown, but the visual alone is disturbing.
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* In the "Protocol" episode, Kyle, Lonnie and Rogelio fall under a "spore storm", which is akin to an acid rain or a chemical attack. Even with its tame rating, the show doesn't shy away from the horrifying effects - a single spore landning on bare skin causes agony (and poor Kyle catches one ''on his tounge''), they slowly melt through armor, and after the trio are forced to go out into the thick of it, they're all covered in nasty burns. Seing this happen to ''children'', after the previous episodes mostly dealt in AmusingInjuries, is unsettling to say the least.
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* The way Horde Prime touches Hordak and Glimmer feels very predatory. The way he gropes Hordak's face and runs his hand over Hordak's armor during the MindRape is uncomfortable to watch. Horde Prime also touches Glimmer's face and holds her hand, making her visibly uncomfortable.
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* At the end of the season, dozens of ships from Horde Prime's fleet have appeared in Etheria's skies. Given the vast technological gap between the intergalactic Horde and Etheria, the implications of what those ships could do is disheartening.
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** Horde Prime has multiple eyes on the right side of his face, all looking in different directions. During a [[https://www.patreon.com/posts/31340162 Patreon discussion]] with fans, character designer Rae Geiger explained where those eyes came from: ''[[EyeScream he took them from his clones.]]''
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** Horde Prime has multiple eyes on the right side of his face, all looking gazing in different directions. During a November 2019 [[https://www.patreon.com/posts/31340162 Patreon discussion]] with fans, character designer Rae Geiger explained where those eyes came from: ''[[EyeScream he took them from his clones.]]''
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** Horde Prime has multiple eyes on the right side of his face, all looking in different directions. During a [[https://www.patreon.com/posts/31340162 Patreon discussion]] with fans, character designer Rae Geiger explained where those eyes came from: [[EyeScream ''he took them from his clones.'']]
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** Horde Prime has multiple eyes on the right side of his face, all looking in different directions. During a [[https://www.patreon.com/posts/31340162 Patreon discussion]] with fans, character designer Rae Geiger explained where those eyes came from: [[EyeScream ''he ''[[EyeScream he took them from his clones.'']]]]''
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** The worst part that [[FridgeHorror might not be easily noticed]] is that Double Trouble lumps in Shadow Weaver and Hordak's abusive behavior with Adora and Scorpia's [[MistreatmentInducedBetrayal legitimate grievances with her]], basically implying Catra deserved her ParentalAbuse. That could make Catra ''extremely'' vulnerable to gaslighting if she and Shadow Weaver ever meet again.
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He was neither bare-skinned nor collared, it turns out. Season 4 reveals that this is indeed a uniform.
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* When Horde Prime receives Hordak's transmission through the portal, an old file on Hordak appears on Horde Prime's screen, complete with a [[https://66.media.tumblr.com/76f558cf3e6099f40b14f910706f3281/tumblr_pwq6eaY2bH1r3qwqao1_500.png picture]] of the clone with a blank expression. Hordak ''may'' be wearing a form-fitting white uniform, but according to [[https://cruelfeline.tumblr.com/post/187228270954/this-picture-is-so-distressing-to-me-and-ive one commentator]], Hordak appears to be [[ShirtlessScene bare-skinned]] with a [[SlaveCollar collar]] around his neck. If this is the case, it raises disturbing questions about what he and his fellow clones experienced in Horde Prime's army.
** In the season 4 episode "Destiny, Part 2", this is exactly what the drone-clones look like. The picture is of Hordak before he became "Hordak", before his free will kicked in, when he was just another mindless drone in Horde Prime's army.
** In the season 4 episode "Destiny, Part 2", this is exactly what the drone-clones look like. The picture is of Hordak before he became "Hordak", before his free will kicked in, when he was just another mindless drone in Horde Prime's army.
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** In theseason 4 episode "Destiny, Part 2", that this is exactly what the drone-clones look like. The picture is of Hordak before he became "Hordak", before his free will kicked in, when he was just another mindless drone in Horde Prime's army.
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** It's fairly unnerving to see Double Trouble come right out and emotionally break Catra after she had appeared to look up to them. The cruelty they display in one scene can only be surpassed by that of Horde Prime, which is fairly high bar. Even Shadow Weaver's abuse doesn't quite reach that level, as Double Trouble reveals the truth in the most brutal way possible and then leaves Catra completely alone with no one. When Glimmer shows up, Catra outright tells her to just do ''[[MercyKill it]]''.
** It's fairly unnerving to see Double Trouble come right out and emotionally break Catra after she had appeared to look up to them. The cruelty they display in one scene can only be surpassed by that of Horde Prime, which is fairly high bar. Even Shadow Weaver's abuse doesn't quite reach that level, as Double Trouble reveals the truth in the most brutal way possible and then leaves Catra completely alone with no one. When Glimmer shows up, Catra outright tells her to just do ''[[MercyKill it]]''.
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* Catra's laugh when she starts to remember reality as it was. It's creepy as hell. And then there's the demented expression that follows. In case it wasn't clear already that Catra's gone completely off her nut.
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** Horde Prime's [[FauxAffablyEvil demeanor]] is ''incredibly'' offputting. He only raises his voice once, when he reprimands Hordak before mindwiping him. At all other times, he speaks in a soft, affable and sophisticated voice and treats Glimmer and Catra with the utmost kindness and courtesy, even when he nonchalantly threatens to murder the former and her entire planet to cover up Hordak's "failure" and later states his intention to harness the Heart of Etheria's power for his own use.
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* When Horde Prime receives Hordak's transmission through the portal, an old file on Hordak appears on Horde Prime's screen, complete with a [[https://66.media.tumblr.com/76f558cf3e6099f40b14f910706f3281/tumblr_pwq6eaY2bH1r3qwqao1_500.png picture]] of the clone. Hordak ''may'' be wearing a form-fitting white uniform, but according to [[https://cruelfeline.tumblr.com/post/187228270954/this-picture-is-so-distressing-to-me-and-ive one commentator]], Hordak appears to be [[ShirtlessScene bare-skinned]] with a [[SlaveCollar collar]] around his neck. If this is the case, it raises disturbing questions about what he and his fellow clones experienced in Horde Prime's army.
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** In the season 4 episode "Destiny, Part 2", this is exactly what the drone-clones look like. The picture is of Hordak before he became "Hordak", when he was just another faceless clone in Horde Prime's army.
** In the season 4 episode "Destiny, Part 2", this is exactly what the drone-clones look like. The picture is of Hordak before he became "Hordak", when he was just another faceless clone in Horde Prime's army.
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** Horde Prime [[MindRape forces himself into Hordak's mind]]. Hordak looks terrified as Horde Prime probes his memories. Later, when Horde Prime neck-lifts him and overrides his mind, Hordak's expression goes blank, and his eyes change from red to green. Whether the effect is [[EmptyShell permanent]] remains to be seen. Horde Prime can do that to ''any'' of his clones.
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** Horde Prime [[MindRape forces himself into Hordak's mind]]. Hordak looks terrified as Horde Prime probes his memories. Later, when Horde Prime neck-lifts him and overrides his mind, Hordak's expression goes blank, and his eyes change from red to green. Whether the effect is [[EmptyShell permanent]] remains to be seen.seen, but for the moment, [[DeathOfPersonality "Hordak" is gone]]. Horde Prime can do that to ''any'' of his clones.
