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* While chapter 15 is largely light and warm and joyful, towards the end it discusses Anakin's struggles with darkness and the nature of redemption, paralleling it with the Avengers and underlining all that they've done - and Harry [[NotSoDifferentRemark makes plain that they're not so different]]. He then reveals that after the shock wore off, if he hadn't noticed Anakin slip away, if he'd been half a second slower, Anakin would have put his lightsabre through his head. Harry pointed out that his children would need him, but stated that what really got through was resorting to telling him that that would be the easy way out.
-->"You see, I get the feeling that he's decided he can't punish himself if he's dead. I'm not sure if he's accepted he deserves to live, but he's sure as hell decided he doesn't deserve to die."
-->"You see, I get the feeling that he's decided he can't punish himself if he's dead. I'm not sure if he's accepted he deserves to live, but he's sure as hell decided he doesn't deserve to die."
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* The Grandmaster’s final, desperate gamble to try to escape his well-deserved destruction is [[GrandTheftMe to try to possess]] [[WouldHurtAChild FRANKLIN RICHARDS]]. Thank God, [[OutGambitted Harry and Sunniva saw it coming and had a contingency ready]].
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* The Grandmaster’s final, desperate gamble to try to escape his well-deserved destruction is [[GrandTheftMe to try to possess]] [[WouldHurtAChild FRANKLIN FRANCIS RICHARDS]]. Thank God, [[OutGambitted Harry and Sunniva saw it coming and had a contingency ready]].
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** The heroes encounter a group of humanoid bat creatures, which are hunting them... which they realise are humanoid because [[WasOnceAMan they were originally human]]. For additional impact, Carol only realises this after she's literally punched through one's chest and out the other side... and as it's dying, it looks at her with human eyes and she sees ''[[DyingAsYourself gratitude.]]'' This triggers flashbacks for Deadpool to [[{{Film/Deadpool}} his own experiences with super-soldier projects]], leaving him unusually taciturn for much of the rest of the chapter.
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** The heroes encounter a group of humanoid bat creatures, which are hunting them... which they realise are humanoid because [[WasOnceAMan they were originally human]]. For additional impact, Carol only realises this after she's literally punched through one's chest and out the other side... and as it's dying, it looks at her with human eyes and she sees ''[[DyingAsYourself gratitude.]]'' This triggers flashbacks for Deadpool to [[{{Film/Deadpool}} [[Film/Deadpool2016 his own experiences with super-soldier projects]], leaving him unusually taciturn for much of the rest of the chapter.
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* The Grandmaster’s final, desperate gamble to try to escape his well-deserved destruction is [[GrandTheftMe to try to possess]] [[WouldHurtAChild FRANKLIN RICHARDS]]. Thank God, [[OutGambitted Harry and Sunniva saw it coming and had a contingency ready]].
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* Ben Grimm at one point muses on the opponents he's faced in the ring and got to know, including a certain Dax-Ur, a Kryptonian scientist he rather got on with and who happened to be as powerful as you'd expect from a high-blood Kryptonian. Then, the Grandmaster what is very heavily implied to be blue kryptonite to strip his powers and trapped him in a labyrinth with a super-sized lab mouse, because he's a scientist, right? He was EatenAlive, and as Ben recalls, the rest of them were expected to find it ''funny''.
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* Ben Grimm at one point muses on the opponents he's faced in the ring and got to know, including a certain Dax-Ur, a Kryptonian scientist he rather got on with and who happened to be as powerful as you'd expect from a high-blood Kryptonian. Then, the Grandmaster used what is very heavily implied to be blue kryptonite to strip his powers and trapped him in a labyrinth with a super-sized lab mouse, because he's a scientist, right? He was EatenAlive, and as Ben recalls, the rest of them were expected to find it ''funny''.
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* Ben Grimm at one point muses on the opponents he's faced in the ring and got to know, including a certain Dax-Ur, a Kryptonian scientist he rather got on with and who happened to be as powerful as you'd expect from a high-blood Kryptonian. Then, the Grandmaster what is very heavily implied to be blue kryptonite to strip his powers and trapped him in a labyrinth with a super-sized lab mouse, because he's a scientist, right? He was EatenAlive, and as Ben recalls, the rest of them were expected to find it ''funny''.
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* Part of chapter 12 is written from the Grandmaster's point of view, and it is chilling in how alien and self-centered it is. He takes narcisism to new levels, regarding everyone and everything in the universe as playthings that he is ''saving'' by absorbing them into himself, and with an amused detachment towards mortal concepts such as identity, emotions, and time.
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* Malekith's actions gain a much more terrifying set of long-term consequences, when Buri explains just how Bor turned out the way he did, explaining that he UsedToBeASweetKid and got hit with the brunt of Malekith's Reality Stone fuelled 'turn-Asgardians-into-savages-to-retroactively-justify-my-conquest' whammy, which not only set Asgard as a whole back by ''hundreds of millennia'', despite the best efforts of Buri and Strange to mitigate it, but turned Bor into a true savage who embraced his dark side and tried to kill his father when Buri tried to help him.
** And if this was not bad enough, it's established via this and the glimpses we get through Sunniva and Buri that Asgard was, though not perfect, a much kinder and gentler and less ProudWarriorRaceGuy society prior to Malekith's handiwork. Contrast that with the rougher, more ruthless, and more unstable Asgard of the present where [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect magic is still somewhat looked down on]], FantasticRacism is still a problem, and there are elements of StayInTheKitchen values lingering even after ''thousands of years'' of Odin's reforms... and a fairly severe population deficit thanks to thousands of years of near constant conflict, Asgard itself nearly being destroyed, ''repeatedly'', from Bor's reign through to the birth of Thor and Loki. And this had a significant impact on not just Asgard's society, but [[WellDoneSonGuy Odin's]] [[CannotSpitItOut personality]], which in turn impacted both his sons, and his grandson, leaving all four with textbook GenerationalTrauma.
** And if this was not bad enough, it's established via this and the glimpses we get through Sunniva and Buri that Asgard was, though not perfect, a much kinder and gentler and less ProudWarriorRaceGuy society prior to Malekith's handiwork. Contrast that with the rougher, more ruthless, and more unstable Asgard of the present where [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect magic is still somewhat looked down on]], FantasticRacism is still a problem, and there are elements of StayInTheKitchen values lingering even after ''thousands of years'' of Odin's reforms... and a fairly severe population deficit thanks to thousands of years of near constant conflict, Asgard itself nearly being destroyed, ''repeatedly'', from Bor's reign through to the birth of Thor and Loki. And this had a significant impact on not just Asgard's society, but [[WellDoneSonGuy Odin's]] [[CannotSpitItOut personality]], which in turn impacted both his sons, and his grandson, leaving all four with textbook GenerationalTrauma.
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** The mere possibility that The Grandmaster might be keeping Johnny Storm for…[[SexSlave having “fun” with him]] brings out some of the scars Harry has from [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil his time in the Red Room]]. When this happens, the dorky kid, the experienced soldier and the arcane demigod sides are replaced by someone cold and vengeful, promising to “do as I did during the Battle of London, and make an Elder God SCREAM.” Hal Jordan did not think Harry was dangerous before, but now…
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* Annihilus and his invasion from the Negative Zone are treated relatively lightly by Harry and Sunniva... but that's because they're in a position to fight back. From the point of view of those on the ground, caught by an invasion that's often from ''[[ChestBurster within]]'' them, it is nothing short of Lovecraftian horror.
* The Grandmaster seems from what little that's obvious to be his usual quirky MCU self, and Sakaar to simply be a magnified version of what it was. Then you find out that it's an EldritchLocation that's an aspect of the EldritchAbomination that ''is'' the Grandmaster, who once was Annihilus, ruling it as a capricious and nigh-omnipotent God-Emperor who treats people as collectables or action figures, kills millions or billions in fits of temper, and is slowly digesting/absorbing everything that falls through, leaving behind {{Empty Shell}}s that he sometimes plays puppets with, identity-less Wraiths that end up as {{Body Snatcher}}s to regain some sense of identity, and Dementors, that feed to do the same. That's right: Dementors are basically the scraps of his feeding process.
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* Annihilus and his invasion from the Negative Zone are treated relatively lightly by Harry and Sunniva... but that's because they're in a position to fight back. From the point of view of those on the ground, caught by an invasion that's often from ''[[ChestBurster within]]'' them, it is nothing short of Lovecraftian horror.
* The Grandmaster seems from what little that's obvious to be his usual quirky MCU self, and Sakaar to simply be a magnified version of what it was. Then you find out that it's an EldritchLocation that's an aspect of the EldritchAbomination that ''is'' the Grandmaster, who once was Annihilus, ruling it as a capricious and nigh-omnipotent God-Emperor who treats people as collectables or action figures, kills millions or billions in fits of temper, and is slowly digesting/absorbing everything that falls through, leaving behind {{Empty Shell}}s that he sometimes plays puppets with, identity-less Wraiths that end up as {{Body Snatcher}}s to regain some sense of identity, and Dementors, that feed to do the same. That's right: Dementors are basically the scraps of his feeding process.
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* The whole ClonesArePeopleToo theme? [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Heartwarming]], especially where Gambit is concerned. In retrospect, though, it casts an Awesome Moment in much harsher light - Harry's obliteration of the Red Army of clones. As Harry reveals, while they were programmed, they were innocent, newborn, they'd never even had a chance to ''live'' - and [[MyGreatestFailure he could have saved them. He could easily have wiped their programming, or just turned them off until after.]] But at that point, all he cared about was that they were in his way. Ron protests that they were just copies.
--> They were alive. Their bodies were copies, but their souls were not. You can't copy a soul. They were people, and I knew that. I just didn't care.
--> They were alive. Their bodies were copies, but their souls were not. You can't copy a soul. They were people, and I knew that. I just didn't care.
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** The Black Captain is a former Eternal named Zagreus. According to Loki, he's the most dangerous of the Great Captains because he's ''clever'' and can think outside of the routines that all the others take. Not to mention the fact that he could be hiding inside '''anyone.'''
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** The Black Captain is a former Eternal named Zagreus. According to Loki, he's the most dangerous of the Great Captains because he's ''clever'' and can think outside of the routines that all the others take.take (he still has a routine, it's just [[BatmanGambit much more]] [[ManipulativeBastard subtle]]). Not to mention the fact that he could be hiding inside '''anyone.'''
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* The heart of Project Pegasus manages to be even worse -- a forest composed of trees [[BalefulPolymorph [[ForcedTransformation that used to be people]], which acts as a natural factory for magical SuperSoldiers and super weapons. And as Holocron!Strange points out, Alan Scott sealing the facility only ever left it ''dormant'', not ''dead'', with Nimue now waking it up again.
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** The Shaper. A former Dwarf artisan who now forges new minions for Surtur, the most dangerous of which are the "Phoenix Eggs", which are essentially ''evil Celestials''.
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** The Shaper. A former Dwarf artisan who now forges uses stars and a ringworld to forge new minions for Surtur, the most dangerous of which are the "Phoenix Eggs", which are essentially ''evil Celestials''.Celestials''. It's implied that one of them is [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2 Ego]].
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*** It should also be remembered that Jormungard went toe-to-toe with ''Thor'' once, and even getting thrown into a neutron star didn't destroy it permanently. It's also the creature that spawned Dave the Elder Wyrm.
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* We finally get an InfoDump about Surtur's Great Captains, and it's pretty terrifying:
** Jormungand. First of all, he's a dragon the size of a small ''moon''. Secondly, he's awakening his children and calling them to him, many of whom were nesting within planets that are being [[EarthShatteringKaboom torn apart]] by their awakening. And finally, there's the fact that all of this has gotten the attention of the Shi'ar, with D'Ken planning on going to war with the dragons for it... which Loki figures will be a [[CurbStompBattle total slaughter on the Shi'ar's part]].
** Skoll the Devouring Dark. A massive LivingShadow with no set form, it feeds on entire planets, to the point of its actions often being mistaken for Galactus. Worse, according to Loki, ItCanThink despite appearing to be a mindless beast.
** The Soul Eater. A living [[TheVirus mental virus]] which travels through the astral plane, infecting people and hollowing them out into {{Empty Shell}}s that are fanatically loyal to Surtur, and end up either being used as hosts for other spiritual entities or turned into Fire Giants. Loki has managed to quarantine it, but only after '''897''' worlds were damaged beyond repair, with another '''3049''' needing an average of three centuries to recover -- and according to Loki, this is ''minor'' compared to past outbreaks.
** The Shaper. A former Dwarf artisan who now forges new minions for Surtur, the most dangerous of which are the "Phoenix Eggs", which are essentially ''evil Celestials''.
** The team of the Frozen Shadow and the Lightbringer -- the former freezes people into living statues that Loki compares to [[Series/DoctorWho Weeping Angels]], while the latter removes their souls and reshape them into miniature versions of Surtur to try and imitate his "perfection". Loki says that attempts have been made to reunite victims' souls and bodies, but [[YouDoNotWantToKnow refuses to go into details of the results beyond saying they were "unpleasant"]].
** The Black Captain is a former Eternal named Zagreus. According to Loki, he's the most dangerous of the Great Captains because he's ''clever'' and can think outside of the routines that all the others take.
** Jormungand. First of all, he's a dragon the size of a small ''moon''. Secondly, he's awakening his children and calling them to him, many of whom were nesting within planets that are being [[EarthShatteringKaboom torn apart]] by their awakening. And finally, there's the fact that all of this has gotten the attention of the Shi'ar, with D'Ken planning on going to war with the dragons for it... which Loki figures will be a [[CurbStompBattle total slaughter on the Shi'ar's part]].
** Skoll the Devouring Dark. A massive LivingShadow with no set form, it feeds on entire planets, to the point of its actions often being mistaken for Galactus. Worse, according to Loki, ItCanThink despite appearing to be a mindless beast.
** The Soul Eater. A living [[TheVirus mental virus]] which travels through the astral plane, infecting people and hollowing them out into {{Empty Shell}}s that are fanatically loyal to Surtur, and end up either being used as hosts for other spiritual entities or turned into Fire Giants. Loki has managed to quarantine it, but only after '''897''' worlds were damaged beyond repair, with another '''3049''' needing an average of three centuries to recover -- and according to Loki, this is ''minor'' compared to past outbreaks.
** The Shaper. A former Dwarf artisan who now forges new minions for Surtur, the most dangerous of which are the "Phoenix Eggs", which are essentially ''evil Celestials''.
** The team of the Frozen Shadow and the Lightbringer -- the former freezes people into living statues that Loki compares to [[Series/DoctorWho Weeping Angels]], while the latter removes their souls and reshape them into miniature versions of Surtur to try and imitate his "perfection". Loki says that attempts have been made to reunite victims' souls and bodies, but [[YouDoNotWantToKnow refuses to go into details of the results beyond saying they were "unpleasant"]].
** The Black Captain is a former Eternal named Zagreus. According to Loki, he's the most dangerous of the Great Captains because he's ''clever'' and can think outside of the routines that all the others take.
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** Asgard's answer to one of their princes being kidnapped is to unleash the ScourgeOfGod by ''starving'' Russia, destroying their food and energy resources. And Frigga swears to ramp it UpToEleven until Harry comes home. Never mess with an Asgardian MamaBear, ''especially'' when she's the Queen.
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** Asgard's answer to one of their princes being kidnapped is to unleash the ScourgeOfGod by ''starving'' Russia, destroying their food and energy resources. And Frigga swears to ramp it UpToEleven up until Harry comes home. Never mess with an Asgardian MamaBear, ''especially'' when she's the Queen.
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* The backstory of Hela, crossing over with TearJerker. Loki seemed to be experiencing an irrational case of AdultFear about his lover and unborn daughter and his parents (father's) anger, so hid them away. However, the birth went wrong and both mother and child died. Loki used necromancy for the first and last time to resurrect the child, Hela. And then she became something of a CreepyChild and had an involuntary case of VampiricDraining - small plants and animals tended to die around her - required to keep her in the living world. So Loki, with the help of Thor, Sif and the Warriors Three (apparently how they met each other), raises her in Helheim, but has to leave her there eventually.
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* The backstory of Hela, crossing over with TearJerker. Loki seemed to be experiencing an irrational case of AdultFear concern about his lover and unborn daughter and his parents (father's) anger, so hid them away. However, the birth went wrong and both mother and child died. Loki used necromancy for the first and last time to resurrect the child, Hela. And then she became something of a CreepyChild and had an involuntary case of VampiricDraining - small plants and animals tended to die around her - required to keep her in the living world. So Loki, with the help of Thor, Sif and the Warriors Three (apparently how they met each other), raises her in Helheim, but has to leave her there eventually.
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* At the height of her power and VillainousBreakdown, Nimue splits off pieces of herself to attack [[PhysicalGod Mab and Titania]] and seize control of the Faerie Courts... and until she recalled them to boost herself against Carol, ''she was winning''.
** Aforementioned breakdown shows just how batshit crazy Nimue is by this point. When she sees that the majority of magic users are fighting against her rather than embracing her vision, she decides to just wipe out the world and start over.
** Aforementioned breakdown shows just how batshit crazy Nimue is by this point. When she sees that the majority of magic users are fighting against her rather than embracing her vision, she decides to just wipe out the world and start over.
