History NightmareFuel / BioShockInfinite

17th May '17 5:57:06 PM rjd1922
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* [[spoiler:Atlas' torture of Elizabeth]] is one of the most brutal appliances of the JackBauerInterrogationTechnique ever seen in a video game. You get to witness the horror of [[spoiler:''a transorbital lobotomy'' (which involves inserting a metal pick just above the eyeball) from a ''first person perspective''. Then Atlas brings a hammer into play.]] And it gets even worse from there when [[spoiler:Elizabeth remains defiant and dares Atlas to lobotomize her, prompting him to lose his cool and attempt the same procedure on '''Sally'''!]]

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* [[spoiler:Atlas' torture of Elizabeth]] is one of the most brutal appliances of the JackBauerInterrogationTechnique ever seen in a video game. You get to witness the horror of [[spoiler:''a transorbital lobotomy'' (which involves inserting a metal pick just above the eyeball) from a ''first person ''first-person perspective''. Then Atlas brings a hammer into play.]] And it gets even worse from there when [[spoiler:Elizabeth remains defiant and dares Atlas to lobotomize her, prompting him to lose his cool and attempt the same procedure on '''Sally'''!]]
14th May '17 5:10:26 PM rjd1922
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** And then Burial at Sea comes around to turn her into [[spoiler:AlasPoorVillain]].

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** And then Burial ''Burial at Sea Sea'' comes around to turn her into [[spoiler:AlasPoorVillain]].



* One brief moment in the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpdgtlHuKpw trailer]] for the Rapture-based "''Burial At Sea''" DLC-- during the montage of various people walking around a pristine, happy Rapture, there's one shot of a stern, schoolteacher-type lady holding up a sign and seemingly lecturing a group of Little Sisters. They look completely identical to one another, and they all move in unison, at one point turning and staring ''right'' at the camera. There's a subtle but distinctly creepy air to the scene, even without context.

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* One brief moment in the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpdgtlHuKpw trailer]] for the Rapture-based "''Burial At at Sea''" DLC-- during the montage of various people walking around a pristine, happy Rapture, there's one shot of a stern, schoolteacher-type lady holding up a sign and seemingly lecturing a group of Little Sisters. They look completely identical to one another, and they all move in unison, at one point turning and staring ''right'' at the camera. There's a subtle but distinctly creepy air to the scene, even without context.



** Even worse if you consider what happens after the tear closes - Comstock was only left with the head, and the Booker in that universe was left ''with the entire body''. Whatever happened to Booker following this can only be left to the player to decide.

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** Even worse if you consider what happens after the tear closes - Comstock [[spoiler:Comstock was only left with the head, and the Booker in that universe was left ''with the entire body''. Whatever happened to Booker following this can only be left to the player to decide.]]



-->Elizabeth: "What do you think Cohen's Customers do with the children? Do they-"
-->Booker: "Sometimes. But those types lack the capitol of Suchong and Ryan."
-->Elizabeth: "That's a blessing."
** Yep, that is Elizabeth asking in a not-so-subtle way - and Comstock confirming - that Cohen sells little girls to people who sexually abuse them. All the horror of Rapture just got taken UpToEleven.

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-->Elizabeth: -->'''Elizabeth''': "What do you think Cohen's Customers customers do with the children? Do they-"
-->Booker: -->'''Booker''': "Sometimes. But those types lack the capitol capital of Suchong and Ryan."
-->Elizabeth: -->'''Elizabeth''': "That's a blessing."
** Yep, that is Elizabeth asking in a not-so-subtle way - and Comstock Booker confirming - that Cohen sells little girls to people who sexually abuse them. All the horror of Rapture just got taken UpToEleven.



* There are in-game radio ads that make use of the sound of Security Bots attacking. It instinctively makes anyone familiar with the sound want to run, hide, and look for [[{{ParanoiaFuel}} a bot that's not there.]]

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* There are in-game radio ads that make use of the sound of Security Bots attacking. It instinctively makes anyone familiar with the sound want to run, hide, and look for [[{{ParanoiaFuel}} [[ParanoiaFuel a bot that's not there.]]



* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RL4BOXGJzI 2:15 of this trailer for Burial At Sea Episode 2.]] [[spoiler:Elizabeth]] has gone a long way... but if the {{Chiaroscuro}} lighting is any indication, things are about to go to hell.

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* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RL4BOXGJzI 2:15 of this trailer for Burial At at Sea - Episode 2.]] [[spoiler:Elizabeth]] has gone a long way... but if the {{Chiaroscuro}} lighting is any indication, things are about to go to hell.
4th May '17 8:01:49 AM QueenofSwords
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** [[spoiler: The lottery itself is horrific, with the unfortunate couple being tied to stakes on a stage against a backdrop of [[DarkestAfrica "untamed African jungle"]], with African caricature-faced monkeys as ring-bearer and flower-girl and an equally caricaturish "Witch Doctor" as preacher, all while cheerful, happy crowds look forward to beating them to death with baseballs.]] Now, you think that this is supposed to be [[UpToEleven exaggerated for dramatic impact]], right? Well, guess what? You're ''wrong''. [[spoiler: Lynchings could and often ''did'' have an almost carnival-like atmosphere, with otherwise decent white folk treating the hanging, rape, castration, burning and other brutal tortures of African-Americans as jolly good fun for the whole family. If you've the stomach for it, these two links showcase [[http://historicpork.tumblr.com/post/48450937661/the-lynching-of-jesse-washington-washington-was both the horrors of a lynching]] and [[http://blackourstory.tumblr.com/post/88493884899/smiling-faces-because-it-happened-because-were just how nonchalant the participants were]]. '''That''', more than anything, is the ''real'' NightmareFuel here; that the horrors of the Founders are actually nothing that wouldn't have been been done by the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan, and similar scenarios actually ''did'' happen in the American South of the time period.]]

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** [[spoiler: The lottery itself is horrific, with the unfortunate couple being tied to stakes on a stage against a backdrop of [[DarkestAfrica "untamed African jungle"]], with African caricature-faced monkeys as ring-bearer and flower-girl and an equally caricaturish "Witch Doctor" as preacher, all while cheerful, happy crowds look forward to beating them to death with baseballs.]] Now, you think that this is supposed to be [[UpToEleven exaggerated for dramatic impact]], right? Well, guess what? You're ''wrong''. [[spoiler: Lynchings could and often ''did'' have an almost carnival-like atmosphere, with otherwise decent white folk people treating the hanging, rape, castration, burning and other brutal tortures of African-Americans as jolly good fun for the whole family. If you've the stomach for it, these two links showcase [[http://historicpork.tumblr.com/post/48450937661/the-lynching-of-jesse-washington-washington-was both the horrors of a lynching]] and [[http://blackourstory.tumblr.com/post/88493884899/smiling-faces-because-it-happened-because-were just how nonchalant the participants were]]. '''That''', more than anything, is the ''real'' NightmareFuel here; that the horrors of the Founders are actually nothing that wouldn't have been been done by the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan, and similar scenarios actually ''did'' happen in the American South of the time period.]]
17th Apr '17 1:14:06 AM DaFlabbagasta
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[[caption-width-right:350:"Booker, are you afraid of God?" "No. But I'm afraid of you."]]
3rd Mar '17 7:45:04 PM rjd1922
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* In that actual scene, when Comstock!Booker and Elizabeth are dancing, they talk about why Cohen is trafficking little girls.

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* In that actual scene, when Comstock!Booker Booker and Elizabeth are dancing, they talk about why Cohen is trafficking little girls.



-->Comstock/Booker: "Sometimes. But those types lack the capitol of Suechong and Ryan."

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-->Comstock/Booker: -->Booker: "Sometimes. But those types lack the capitol of Suechong Suchong and Ryan."



** And keep in mind, this is the same [[spoiler:Atlas persona that played you for a sentiment in the very first Bioshock. No, this is not the attitude of the family man Jack knew, this is one of a desperate, ruthless arse, I.E. Frank Fontaine.]]

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** And keep in mind, this is the same [[spoiler:Atlas persona that played you for a sentiment in the very first Bioshock.''[=BioShock=]''. No, this is not the attitude of the family man Jack knew, this is one of a desperate, ruthless arse, I.E. Frank Fontaine.]]



** However,[[spoiler:that universe was Burial!Elizabeth visiting the past, as can be seen from Infinite!Elizabeth and Booker running about while you avoid contact or arrive to places just before OR after they went past. Which means it was before the Comstocks got eliminated or that the MAIN universe that Booker and Elizabeth traveled through in Infinite is a constant (as undoing it would undo them undoing all the Comstocks... err..). Since Booker visited Old!Elizabeth who sent him back to save an alternate path version of her, this means at least one Elizabeth lays waste to the Earth before winking out of existence when Elizabeth drowns Booker.]]
* The cut [[http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Jockey_Splicer Jockey splicers]]. Even though this is the early years of the Rapture Civil War, these freaks look like something out of ''Bioshock 2''. Deformed from excessive Shock Jockey drinking, their bodies are covered with huge crystals bristling with electricity and they look even worse than Crawler splicers. It's difficult to express how badly Fink's and Suchong's vigors have mutated them.

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** However,[[spoiler:that However, [[spoiler:that universe was Burial!Elizabeth visiting the past, as can be seen from Infinite!Elizabeth and Booker running about while you avoid contact or arrive to places just before OR after they went past. Which means it was before the Comstocks got eliminated or that the MAIN universe that Booker and Elizabeth traveled through in Infinite is a constant (as undoing it would undo them undoing all the Comstocks... err..). Since Booker visited Old!Elizabeth who sent him back to save an alternate path version of her, this means at least one Elizabeth lays waste to the Earth before winking out of existence when Elizabeth drowns Booker.]]
* The cut [[http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Jockey_Splicer Jockey splicers]]. Even though this is the early years of the Rapture Civil War, these freaks look like something out of ''Bioshock 2''.''VideoGame/BioShock2''. Deformed from excessive Shock Jockey drinking, their bodies are covered with huge crystals bristling with electricity and they look even worse than Crawler splicers. It's difficult to express how badly Fink's and Suchong's vigors have mutated them.
12th Oct '16 12:49:39 AM Agent_B
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** Worse still, the vandalized machines which originally sold Gear (modeled after Jewish tailors) have not only been stripped of their contents and broken, but have the word "YID" painted on their sides. Anti-Semitism runs deep in Columbia.

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** Worse still, the vandalized machines which originally sold Gear (modeled after Jewish tailors) have not only been stripped of their contents and broken, but have the word "YID" and "HEEB" painted on their sides. Anti-Semitism runs deep in Columbia.
21st Sep '16 7:55:49 AM 309216364
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***Subverted by Booker answering firmly: "I'm going to do it for you,"
16th Sep '16 2:09:09 PM FeepingCreature
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** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Alcoholism is probably heritable.]]
30th Jul '16 2:50:44 PM WanderingBrowser
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** [[spoiler: The lottery itself is horrific, with the unfortunate couple being tied to stakes on a stage against a backdrop of [[DarkestAfrica "untamed African jungle"]], with African caricature-faced monkeys as ring-bearer and flower-girl and an equally caricaturish "Witch Doctor" as preacher, all while cheerful, happy crowds look forward to beating them to death with baseballs.]] Now, you think that this is supposed to be [[UpToEleven exaggerated for dramatic impact]], right? Well, guess what? You're ''wrong''. [[spoiler: Lynchings could and often ''did'' have an almost carnival-like atmosphere, with otherwise decent white folk treating the hanging, rape, castration, burning and other brutal tortures of African-Americans as jolly good fun for the whole family. If you've the stomach for it, these two links showcase [[the-lynching-of-jesse-washington-washington-was both the horrors of a lynching]] and [[smiling-faces-because-it-happened-because-were just how nonchalant the participants were]]. '''That''', more than anything, is the ''real'' NightmareFuel here; that the horrors of the Founders are actually nothing that wouldn't have been been done by the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan, and similar scenarios actually ''did'' happen in the American South of the time period.]]

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** [[spoiler: The lottery itself is horrific, with the unfortunate couple being tied to stakes on a stage against a backdrop of [[DarkestAfrica "untamed African jungle"]], with African caricature-faced monkeys as ring-bearer and flower-girl and an equally caricaturish "Witch Doctor" as preacher, all while cheerful, happy crowds look forward to beating them to death with baseballs.]] Now, you think that this is supposed to be [[UpToEleven exaggerated for dramatic impact]], right? Well, guess what? You're ''wrong''. [[spoiler: Lynchings could and often ''did'' have an almost carnival-like atmosphere, with otherwise decent white folk treating the hanging, rape, castration, burning and other brutal tortures of African-Americans as jolly good fun for the whole family. If you've the stomach for it, these two links showcase [[the-lynching-of-jesse-washington-washington-was [[http://historicpork.tumblr.com/post/48450937661/the-lynching-of-jesse-washington-washington-was both the horrors of a lynching]] and [[smiling-faces-because-it-happened-because-were [[http://blackourstory.tumblr.com/post/88493884899/smiling-faces-because-it-happened-because-were just how nonchalant the participants were]]. '''That''', more than anything, is the ''real'' NightmareFuel here; that the horrors of the Founders are actually nothing that wouldn't have been been done by the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan, and similar scenarios actually ''did'' happen in the American South of the time period.]]
30th Jul '16 2:43:02 PM WanderingBrowser
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* Early in the game, you're at a carnival and you win a lottery. What good luck! What does that get you? ''[[spoiler:The "honor" of throwing the first stone at the public stoning/execution of a mixed race couple.]]'' The scene itself... [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment which probably shouldn't be detailed,]] is something you thought the Ku Klux Klan would not go to the extreme of doing. It can't even be something those against the Klan would claim they do. It looks kind of like a parody of the KKK imitating someone opposing them would claim they do. It's that disturbing.

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* Early in the game, you're at a carnival and you win a lottery. What good luck! What does that get you? ''[[spoiler:The "honor" of throwing the first stone at the public stoning/execution of a mixed race couple.]]'' ]]''
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The scene itself... [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment which probably shouldn't be detailed,]] lottery itself is something you thought horrific, with the Ku Klux Klan would not go unfortunate couple being tied to the extreme of doing. It can't even be something those stakes on a stage against a backdrop of [[DarkestAfrica "untamed African jungle"]], with African caricature-faced monkeys as ring-bearer and flower-girl and an equally caricaturish "Witch Doctor" as preacher, all while cheerful, happy crowds look forward to beating them to death with baseballs.]] Now, you think that this is supposed to be [[UpToEleven exaggerated for dramatic impact]], right? Well, guess what? You're ''wrong''. [[spoiler: Lynchings could and often ''did'' have an almost carnival-like atmosphere, with otherwise decent white folk treating the Klan would claim they do. It looks kind hanging, rape, castration, burning and other brutal tortures of like African-Americans as jolly good fun for the whole family. If you've the stomach for it, these two links showcase [[the-lynching-of-jesse-washington-washington-was both the horrors of a parody lynching]] and [[smiling-faces-because-it-happened-because-were just how nonchalant the participants were]]. '''That''', more than anything, is the ''real'' NightmareFuel here; that the horrors of the KKK imitating someone opposing them would claim they do. It's Founders are actually nothing that disturbing. wouldn't have been been done by the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan, and similar scenarios actually ''did'' happen in the American South of the time period.]]



** Even more disturbing when you look up what the KKK used to do, especially in the timeframe of the game. After seeing the pictures, you'll ''wish'' that the above description was true. It wasn't just lynching that was common. Rape, burning, castration and more were also well known. [[http://historicpork.tumblr.com/post/48450937661/the-lynching-of-jesse-washington-washington-was This link is not for the feint of heart, but is one such example.]] [[http://blackourstory.tumblr.com/post/88493884899/smiling-faces-because-it-happened-because-were These photos show several different examples of it, and the laughing, happy crowds that gathered around.]] Columbia isn't unrealistic or even that exaggerated from the American south. That's the true nightmare fuel.
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