History NightmareFuel / AceAttorney

9th May '17 11:11:24 AM PeaceAndLove
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-->-- '''Music/{{Brentalfloss}}, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyYps8xJfs Phoenix Wright]] WithLyrics"

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-->-- '''Music/{{Brentalfloss}}, '''Music/{{Brentalfloss}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyYps8xJfs Phoenix Wright]] WithLyrics"
9th May '17 11:11:03 AM PeaceAndLove
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--> '''{{Music/Brentalfloss}}
-->-- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyYps8xJfs Phoenix Wright]] WithLyrics"

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-->-- '''Music/{{Brentalfloss}}, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyYps8xJfs Phoenix Wright]] WithLyrics"
9th May '17 11:10:25 AM PeaceAndLove
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--> '''{{Music/Brentalfloss}}''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyYps8xJfs Phoenix Wright]] WithLyrics"

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--> '''{{Music/Brentalfloss}}''', "[[https://www.'''{{Music/Brentalfloss}}
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youtube.com/watch?v=hSyYps8xJfs Phoenix Wright]] WithLyrics"
4th May '17 7:17:36 PM Tavernier
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* The first vision of ''Turnabout Revolution''. While many visions are plenty spooky in their own right, we get to watch someone get murdered ''by a man without a face''. Bonus points for the ringing laughter as the world goes black.
31st Mar '17 11:47:24 AM Moonstreak
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** Announce The Truth 2002, while being an awesome song in it's own right can be downright creepy when played during some parts. [[spoiler:Notable examples include Acro claiming Phoenix to be insane, several moments with de Killer, and Ini Miney/Mimi trying to suffocate herself with her hat.]] Imagine walking in a dark alley, suddenly hearing this music and having De Killer jump and kill you. Scary...

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** Announce The Truth 2002, while being an awesome song in it's its own right right, can be downright creepy when played during some parts. [[spoiler:Notable examples include Acro claiming Phoenix to be insane, several moments with de Killer, and Ini Miney/Mimi trying to suffocate herself with her hat.]] Imagine walking in a dark alley, suddenly hearing this music and having De de Killer jump and kill you. Scary...
31st Mar '17 11:46:29 AM Moonstreak
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*** If you put yourself in Phoenix's shoes, then TheReveal ''itself'' is NightmareFuel. [[spoiler:He thought Engarde was truly innocent, but then more and more shady things end up surrounding his client. After pressing him further, Engarde reveals his true colors; he's ''not innocent'', he's a thoroughly sociopathic bastard, and worst of all, if Phoenix didn't help him get away with his crimes, Maya ''''would die''''. To work for somebody whose actions stand against your moral code when you're an inherently good man is a complete ''nightmare''.]]

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*** If you put yourself in Phoenix's shoes, then TheReveal ''itself'' is NightmareFuel. [[spoiler:He thought Engarde was truly innocent, but then more and more shady things end up surrounding his client. After pressing him further, Engarde reveals his true colors; he's ''not innocent'', he's a thoroughly sociopathic bastard, and worst of all, if Phoenix didn't help him get away with his crimes, Maya ''''would die''''.'''''would die'''''. To work for somebody whose actions stand against your moral code when you're an inherently good man is a complete ''nightmare''.]]
31st Mar '17 11:45:58 AM Moonstreak
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* Because the series is entirely driven by AlwaysMurder cases, it's almost inevitable that the cause of death of certain victims may make players uncomfortable, especially if the victim in question was said to be nice and likeable when alive. The fact that photos of their corpses are present in almost every case as evidence doesn't help.

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* Because the series is entirely driven by AlwaysMurder cases, it's almost inevitable that the cause of death of certain victims may make players uncomfortable, especially if the victim in question was said to be nice and likeable likable when alive. The fact that photos of their corpses are present in almost every case as evidence doesn't help.



** It's especially jarring when the last witness' freakout was actually pretty funny, and then the next witness goes absolutely ''insane''. It just goes to show that it's not just the perpetrators who can fall victim to a breakdown.

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** It's especially jarring when the last witness' freakout freak-out was actually pretty funny, and then the next witness goes absolutely ''insane''. It just goes to show that it's not just the perpetrators who can fall victim to a breakdown.



* [[spoiler:Redd White]] from Case 2 may not seem as scary or effective as a villain as, say, [[spoiler:Manfred Von Karma, Matt Engarde, or Kristoph Gavin]]. In fact, in many ways he is downright incompetent, sometimes laughably so. He is, however, most definitely a very vile person in his own right. He built his own company that is founded on and profits off blackmail. Over the span of many years, he dug up any dirt he could find on public officials, celebrities, and countless others. He "trades" and leaks to the public anything that will make his targets look bad, regardless of if or how much they deserve it. Many of these people killed themselves, and many more had their lives ruined as a result. To say he doesn't care is an understatement; in fact, he practically laughs if off! Worse, he will do whatever he has to (including intimidation, framing, and murder) to protect himself. Furthermore, while these vicious acts of institutionalized blackmail are horrible enough on their own, they double as ParanoiaFuel as one realizes that this kind of stuff happens ALL THE TIME in real life. The fact that we live in an age where random strangers can easily gain access to other people's private information (often via electronic or digital mediums) makes it even worse. [[spoiler:Redd White]] personifies the CorruptCorporateExecutive and many of the worst elements of the business world.

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* [[spoiler:Redd White]] from Case 2 may not seem as scary or effective as a villain as, say, [[spoiler:Manfred Von von Karma, Matt Engarde, or Kristoph Gavin]]. In fact, in many ways he is downright incompetent, sometimes laughably so. He is, however, most definitely a very vile person in his own right. He built his own company that is founded on and profits off blackmail. Over the span of many years, he dug up any dirt he could find on public officials, celebrities, and countless others. He "trades" and leaks to the public anything that will make his targets look bad, regardless of if or how much they deserve it. Many of these people killed themselves, and many more had their lives ruined as a result. To say he doesn't care is an understatement; in fact, he practically laughs if off! Worse, he will do whatever he has to (including intimidation, framing, and murder) to protect himself. Furthermore, while these vicious acts of institutionalized blackmail are horrible enough on their own, they double as ParanoiaFuel as one realizes that this kind of stuff happens ALL THE TIME in real life. The fact that we live in an age where random strangers can easily gain access to other people's private information (often via electronic or digital mediums) makes it even worse. [[spoiler:Redd White]] personifies the CorruptCorporateExecutive and many of the worst elements of the business world.



* Case 2 has [[http://www.court-records.net/animation/ini-cosplay.gif this (caution, is kind of a spoiler)]]. Without knowing it's [[spoiler:Mimi Miney]], the first thing the player assumes is that it's [[spoiler:[[http://www.court-records.net/animation/maya-nod.gif Maya Fey]], the charming and sunny assistant from the previous game]], which can come off as terribly disturbing. Even bearing in mind the true identity, the HiddenEyes, [[BloodSplatteredWarrior blood-smeared clothing]], and general eerieness of this person is quite creepy (especially since she talks in morose, broken phrasing, evocative of a troubled lost soul).

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* Case 2 has [[http://www.court-records.net/animation/ini-cosplay.gif this (caution, is kind of a spoiler)]]. Without knowing it's [[spoiler:Mimi Miney]], the first thing the player assumes is that it's [[spoiler:[[http://www.court-records.net/animation/maya-nod.gif Maya Fey]], the charming and sunny assistant from the previous game]], which can come off as terribly disturbing. Even bearing in mind the true identity, the HiddenEyes, [[BloodSplatteredWarrior blood-smeared clothing]], and general eerieness eeriness of this person is quite creepy (especially since she talks in morose, broken phrasing, evocative of a troubled lost soul).



* In Case 3, [[spoiler:[[SympatheticMurderer Acro]]'s]] situation is horrifying on many levels: [[spoiler:His brother is in an irreversible coma because of Regina, he himself lost the use of his legs, and everyday Regina would take care of him. That's right: the unwitting "killer" of his brother was with him all that time, saying innocently that Bat became a star in the sky. While his brother was, in fact, in a coma. A brother who he visited at the hospital multiple times with the incessant company of the too sweet and innocent princess Regina.]] It's no wonder he snapped. The situation was so unbearable that he contemplated the idea of suicide, but didn't go through with it. And when he thought he finally had a chance to [[spoiler:get his vengeance]], he ends up [[spoiler:killing his parental figure by accident.]] The poor man is completely and utterly broken.

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* In Case 3, [[spoiler:[[SympatheticMurderer Acro]]'s]] situation is horrifying on many levels: [[spoiler:His brother is in an irreversible coma because of Regina, he himself lost the use of his legs, and everyday every day, Regina would take care of him. That's right: the unwitting "killer" of his brother was with him all that time, saying innocently that Bat became a star in the sky. While sky - while his brother was, in fact, in a coma. A brother who he visited at the hospital multiple times with the incessant company of the too sweet too-sweet and innocent princess Regina.]] It's no wonder he snapped. The situation was so unbearable that he contemplated the idea of suicide, but didn't go through with it. And when he thought he finally had a chance to [[spoiler:get his vengeance]], he ends up [[spoiler:killing his parental figure by accident.]] The poor man is completely and utterly broken.



*** If you put yourself in Phoenix's shoes, then TheReveal ''itself'' is NightmareFuel. [[spoiler:He thought Engarde was truly innocent, but then more and more shady things end up surrounding hi client. After pressing him further, Engarde reveals his true colors; he's ''not innocent'', he's a thoroughly sociopathic bastard, and worst of all, if Phoenix didn't help him get away with his crimes, Maya ''''would die''''. To work for somebody whose actions stand against your moral code when you're an inherently good man is a complete ''nightmare''.]]

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*** If you put yourself in Phoenix's shoes, then TheReveal ''itself'' is NightmareFuel. [[spoiler:He thought Engarde was truly innocent, but then more and more shady things end up surrounding hi his client. After pressing him further, Engarde reveals his true colors; he's ''not innocent'', he's a thoroughly sociopathic bastard, and worst of all, if Phoenix didn't help him get away with his crimes, Maya ''''would die''''. To work for somebody whose actions stand against your moral code when you're an inherently good man is a complete ''nightmare''.]]



*** And to top it all off,[[spoiler:This man, who not only was the actual killer of Juan Corrida but also of countless others, is never found and incarcerated. He's still out there free as a bird waiting to perpetrate more hired hits. Just pray his next victim isn't you.]]

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*** And to top it all off,[[spoiler:This off, [[spoiler:This man, who not only was the actual killer of Juan Corrida but also of countless others, is never found and incarcerated. He's still out there free as a bird waiting to perpetrate more hired hits. Just pray his next victim isn't you.]]
14th Feb '17 7:38:06 AM tvtropesruinedmylife22
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* The whole game is incredibly dark. No wonder it's the awkward game in the VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightTrilogy.

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* The whole game is incredibly dark. No wonder it's the awkward game in the VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightTrilogy.original trilogy.
12th Feb '17 7:30:09 PM rjd1922
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* Before the game even launched, the description of the Khura'in Kingdom's handling of defense attorneys in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGHgrDOZiI the animated intro]] to the game is unsettling. They made being a defense attorney a ''capital crime''. It is literally punishable by death to ''claim someone isn't guilty'' when the water mirror has already said otherwise. The courts are referred to as "the court of despair" because so many guilty verdicts are handed out without any sort of objection. One defendant is even dragged out of the courtroom tearfully pleading for a defense attorney but it goes unheeded.

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* Before the game even launched, the description of the Khura'in Kingdom's Kingdom of Khura'in's handling of defense attorneys in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGHgrDOZiI com/watch?v=I7gsGg-MPX0 the animated intro]] prologue]] to the game is unsettling. They made being a defense attorney a ''capital crime''. It is literally punishable by death to ''claim someone isn't guilty'' when the water mirror has already said otherwise. The courts are referred to as "the court of despair" because so many guilty verdicts are handed out without any sort of objection. One defendant is even dragged out of the courtroom tearfully pleading for a defense attorney but it goes unheeded.



** The low, droning music track that plays when you have to present TheReveal that [[spoiler:Dhurke was DeadAllAlong]]. It sounds more like something out of a SurvivalHorror game, and perfectly captures the moment: both Apollo and the player know ''exactly'' what the solution to this contradition is, but ''desperately'' don't want to believe it. And instead of a '''Take That''' when you present it, you get a ScareChord.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7jv1ticnf0 The low, droning music track track]] that plays when you have to present TheReveal that [[spoiler:Dhurke was DeadAllAlong]]. It sounds more like something out of a SurvivalHorror game, and perfectly captures the moment: both Apollo and the player know ''exactly'' what the solution to this contradition is, but ''desperately'' don't want to believe it. And instead of a '''Take That''' when you present it, you get a ScareChord.
9th Feb '17 6:49:01 AM TaylorHyuuga
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** Especially if you look at it from Maya's perspective. Had the plan gone as intended, [[spoiler:she would have been killed by Pearl.]] Had it went as it was, without [[spoiler:Godot]]'s timely arrival, she would have been killed by [[spoiler:her own mother]].
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