History NightmareFuel / AceAttorney

30th Dec '16 8:21:29 AM Naitomeruu
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** Let's not forget about her [[spoiler: breakdown]]. [[spoiler: She desperately tried to commune with the dead even when she knows she can't, and when she tried so hard and failed miserably she collapsed. When she woke up she was convinced that she was the Holy Mother whom she tried to channel]]. She essentially [[spoiler: had a SanitySlippage]].
17th Dec '16 11:48:26 AM Angeldeb82
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* Also from Case 3, the real killer's "transformation". [[spoiler: Aristotle Means goes from friendly-looking to downright ''terrifying'', his [[TheUnsmile Unsmile]] becomes a full-on SlasherSmile and a ''crack appears in his face'' as he completely drops his FauxAffablyEvil act. His globe-spinning pose is particularly NightmareFuel-worthy.]] One of his animations even involves pointing and throwing [[spoiler: chalk]] ''[[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou directly at the screen!]]'' And then there's the fact he gives a BreakingSpeech to Athena and drives her into a HeroicBSOD. And of course the expressions he makes during his breakdown play up the UncannyValley factor for all its worth.

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* Also from Case 3, the real killer's "transformation". [[spoiler: Aristotle Means goes from friendly-looking to downright ''terrifying'', his [[TheUnsmile Unsmile]] becomes a full-on SlasherSmile and a ''crack appears in his face'' as he completely drops his FauxAffablyEvil act. His globe-spinning pose is particularly NightmareFuel-worthy.]] One of his animations even involves pointing and throwing [[spoiler: chalk]] ''[[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou directly at the screen!]]'' screen]]!'' And then there's the fact he gives a BreakingSpeech to [[BreakThemByTalking breaks Athena by talking]] and drives her into a HeroicBSOD. And of course the expressions he makes during his breakdown play up the UncannyValley factor for all its worth.
16th Dec '16 12:29:14 PM ExodusMaledictus
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** Even when he breaks down he's scary. Everyone has a WildTake. Not everyone has a WildTake that involves them [[http://doulifee.com//Storage/aceatt/GyakutenSaiban1/ani-gant-ZAP.gif GOING SUPER-SAIYAN.]]

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** Even when he breaks down he's scary. Everyone has a WildTake. Not everyone has a WildTake that involves them [[http://doulifee.com//Storage/aceatt/GyakutenSaiban1/ani-gant-ZAP.gif GOING SUPER-SAIYAN.]]
5th Dec '16 2:15:22 AM BigKlingy
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** The low, droning music track that plays when you have to present TheReveal that [[spoiler: Dhurke was DeadAllAlong]]. It sounds more like something out of a SurvivalHorror game, and perfectly captures the moment: both Apollo and the player know ''exactly'' what the solution to this contradition is, but ''desperately'' don't want to believe it. And instead of a '''Take That''' when you present it, you get a ScareChord.
4th Dec '16 4:00:46 PM BcUltra1990
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** The whole truth? [[spoiler:It was [[DrivenToSuicide all a cultivated suicide]]. Tahrust used his own death to draw away suspicion from his wife over the fact that the place he died is an [[LaResistance entrance to a rebel base and that they were rebels]].]]
30th Nov '16 3:23:28 PM TaylorHyuuga
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** The police system isn't trustworthy either. For at least two years, the corrupt Chief of Police had the Chief Prosecutor under his thumb and (it's strongly implied) used her to get rid of anyone he disliked, even if it meant forging evidence. (Edgeworth in particular nearly goes into a HeroicBSOD when he realizes that he scored at least one conviction on false evidence.) Then in ''Dual Destinies'', the BigBad kills and replaces a detective, with no one the wiser; Phoenix and Edgeworth only discover him because they are running a long game to force him to show himself.

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** The police system isn't trustworthy either. For at least two years, the corrupt Chief of Police had the Chief Prosecutor under his thumb and (it's strongly implied) used her to get rid of anyone he disliked, even if it meant forging evidence. evidence (Edgeworth in particular nearly goes into a HeroicBSOD when he realizes that he scored at least one conviction on false evidence.) Before them, we had [[spoiler:Blase Debeste, an AmoralAttorney as bad as they come as the Chief Prosecutor]]. Then in ''Dual Destinies'', the BigBad kills and replaces a detective, with no one the wiser; Phoenix and Edgeworth only discover him because they are running a long game to force him to show himself.
30th Nov '16 1:40:20 PM Chariset
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** The police system isn't trustworthy either. For at least two years, the corrupt Chief of Police had the Chief Prosecutor under his thumb and (it's strongly implied) used her to get rid of anyone he disliked, even if it meant forging evidence. (Edgeworth in particular nearly goes into a HeroicBSOD when he realizes that he scored at least one conviction on false evidence.) Then in ''Dual Destinies'', the BigBad kills and replaces a detective, with no one the wiser; Phoenix and Edgeworth only discover him because they are running a long game to force him to show himself.
25th Nov '16 10:50:21 AM rjd1922
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* Case 2 brings us [[spoiler: Roger Retinz, a.k.a The Great Mr Reus, a former magician with a grudge against Troupe Gramarye. The sheer amount of ''loathing'' that man has running through his veins, and the sheer cackling insanity he shows when taunting Magnifi Gramarye from beyond the grave can be downright chilling-especially given his "taunting Magnifi" pose, where he looks like ''the freaking Devil'' admiring his own {{Hellfire}} while laughing at the soul caught therein.]] The VillainousBreakdown is quite creepy: [[spoiler:He puts on one final "show" for the court, making creepy masks of each member of the troupe appear in his cloak, them making them vanish while proclaiming how he'll see them all burn. They he gets to Trucy, except when he opens his cloak, it's ''his'' mask inside. He freaks out for a bit, then tries the trick again, only to have his face show up a second time, either ripped or ''covered in blood'' (it could be either, both are creepy). He then starts panicking, yelling that he's not to blame (in a manner that echos [[VillainSong "Hellfire"]] from ''The Hunchback of Notre Dame''), as multiple spotlights shine in his face as the camera slowly zooms in. It's implied that a large amount of this might just be happening in his head, showing just how deluded and insane he's become.]]

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* Case 2 brings us [[spoiler: Roger Retinz, a.k.a The Great Mr Reus, a former magician with a grudge against Troupe Gramarye. The sheer amount of ''loathing'' that man has running through his veins, and the sheer cackling insanity he shows when taunting Magnifi Gramarye from beyond the grave can be downright chilling-especially given his "taunting Magnifi" pose, where he looks like ''the freaking Devil'' admiring his own {{Hellfire}} while laughing at the soul caught therein.]] The VillainousBreakdown is quite creepy: [[spoiler:He puts on one final "show" for the court, making creepy masks of each member of the troupe appear in his cloak, them making them vanish while proclaiming how he'll see them all burn. They he gets to Trucy, except when he opens his cloak, it's ''his'' mask inside. He freaks out for a bit, then tries the trick again, only to have his face show up a second time, either ripped or ''covered in blood'' (it could be either, both are creepy). He then starts panicking, yelling that he's not to blame (in a manner that echos [[VillainSong "Hellfire"]] from ''The Hunchback of Notre Dame''), ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame''), as multiple spotlights shine in his face as the camera slowly zooms in. It's implied that a large amount of this might just be happening in his head, showing just how deluded and insane he's become.]]
22nd Oct '16 11:53:21 AM tvtropesruinedmylife22
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* On the subject of Dahlia... She killed two people, got a third to commit suicide, poisoned a fourth into a coma, planned on poisoning a fourth, and placed the blame for the death on one of the aforementioned two people she killed on the would-be poison victim (the actual victim just tried to warn him), and she almost got away with it, not because she could call a massive amount of resources like [[spoiler: Redd White]] or [[spoiler: Matt Engarde]], not because she had done an inside job like [[spoiler: Manfred Von Karma]], but just because she was a [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon pretty faced sociopath]] who put the judge in her pocket with her cute looks. She stands out even more due to lacking an over the top gimmick like the other criminals. How many Dahlia Hawthornes are out there in the real world, [[TheyLookJustLikeEveryoneElse escaping punishment because they don't look the part?]]

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* On the subject of Dahlia... She killed two people, got a third to commit suicide, poisoned a fourth into a coma, planned on poisoning a fourth, fifth, and placed the blame for the death on one of the aforementioned two people she killed on the would-be poison victim (the actual victim just tried to warn him), and she almost got away with it, not because she could call a massive amount of resources like [[spoiler: Redd White]] or [[spoiler: Matt Engarde]], not because she had done an inside job like [[spoiler: Manfred Von Karma]], but just because she was a [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon pretty faced sociopath]] who put the judge in her pocket with her cute looks. She stands out even more due to lacking an over the top gimmick like the other criminals. How many Dahlia Hawthornes are out there in the real world, [[TheyLookJustLikeEveryoneElse escaping punishment because they don't look the part?]]
19th Oct '16 9:49:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* The end of Case 3's first trial, especially to those GenreSavvy about the series conventions. [[spoiler: The witness turns out to be a complete dead end, and Phoenix has nothing. The judge feels there's no further need to prolong the trial, and so declares Maya and Phoenix GUILTY. ...Now would be the time for the obligatory BigDamnHeroes moment, right? Naturally, the bailiff runs in. Phew, the trial is saved... wait, he came to say another murder has occurred, and ''Maya looks guilty of that one too?'' And now the prosecution officially accuses Maya of not just one murder, but of being a ''vigilante serial killer who's been operating for the past 2 years?!'' He's suspending the trial to ensure she gets a ''worse sentence?!'' When it's implied she was ''already'' getting the death penalty?? And no, the guilty verdict is NOT overturned. In a rare moment in the series, [[DarkestHour a day 1 trial ends in a decisive victory for the prosecution, and Phoenix is, as Rayfa points out, a dead man walking.]]]]

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* The end of Case 3's first trial, especially to those GenreSavvy savvy about the series conventions. [[spoiler: The witness turns out to be a complete dead end, and Phoenix has nothing. The judge feels there's no further need to prolong the trial, and so declares Maya and Phoenix GUILTY. ...Now would be the time for the obligatory BigDamnHeroes moment, right? Naturally, the bailiff runs in. Phew, the trial is saved... wait, he came to say another murder has occurred, and ''Maya looks guilty of that one too?'' And now the prosecution officially accuses Maya of not just one murder, but of being a ''vigilante serial killer who's been operating for the past 2 years?!'' He's suspending the trial to ensure she gets a ''worse sentence?!'' When it's implied she was ''already'' getting the death penalty?? And no, the guilty verdict is NOT overturned. In a rare moment in the series, [[DarkestHour a day 1 trial ends in a decisive victory for the prosecution, and Phoenix is, as Rayfa points out, a dead man walking.]]]]
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