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19th May '17 10:37:38 PM nombretomado
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* Clare in ''Series/{{Degrassi}}'' ranted out Eli at the LocalHangout, screaming '''"DID YOU FLIP A SWITCH AND ERASE ME FROM YOUR MEMORY, DID YOU EVER LOVE ME AT ALL?"'''. Since then, Eli wrote it into the SchoolPlay, Connor and Mo used it to psych out an OpposingSportsTeam, and Connor, KC and Adam put it on {{Twitter}} where at one point it was trending in Toronto.

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* Clare in ''Series/{{Degrassi}}'' ranted out Eli at the LocalHangout, screaming '''"DID YOU FLIP A SWITCH AND ERASE ME FROM YOUR MEMORY, DID YOU EVER LOVE ME AT ALL?"'''. Since then, Eli wrote it into the SchoolPlay, Connor and Mo used it to psych out an OpposingSportsTeam, and Connor, KC and Adam put it on {{Twitter}} Website/{{Twitter}} where at one point it was trending in Toronto.
1st May '17 3:13:41 PM LondonKdS
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*** From the other direction when it comes to the Doctor's asexuality: The idea that he's ''completely'' asexual and aromantic mostly derives from the Fourth Doctor's line in ''City of Death,'' "You're a beautiful woman, probably." Since the First Doctor's first companion had been his own ''granddaughter,'' chances are that line wasn't intended to say romance is 100% foreign to him.

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*** From the other direction when it comes to the Doctor's asexuality: The idea that he's ''completely'' asexual and aromantic mostly derives from the Fourth Doctor's line to Countess Scarlioni in ''City of Death,'' "You're a beautiful woman, probably." Since the First Doctor's first companion had been his own ''granddaughter,'' chances are that line wasn't intended to say romance is 100% foreign to him - and Tom Baker's delivery of the line leaves open the interpretation that he's conveying to her that he's aware that she's trying to use her attractiveness to distract him.
16th Apr '17 9:03:26 PM PhantomRider
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***The Doctor from the ninth onward in general. With the original series' NoHuggingNoKissing rule being relaxed in the new series, any sign of him not being completely asexual is treated as him having become a sex maniac to rival [[ExtremeOmnisexual Jack Harkness]]. In fact, he gets kissed, to his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yoi4wM0Jiw hilarious]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsUSx8rfsc bewilderment,]] as a RunningGag and so does a lot of snogging ''whether he wants to or not,'' and has had flirtatious teasing with several characters, and that is quite a change from the classic series, but that's light-years away from "every companion is also a love interest, and he's banging every RecurringCharacter on the side." In fact, a theme that's ''also'' played up more in the revived series is how ancient and alien and alone the "lonely god" is, making the normal idea of a romance with him impossible (as several characters who have loved him have learned. River Song would give ''anything'' for their arc to be about "consummating" anything. Though yes, technically she ''is'' his wife. As always with the Doctor, it's complicated.) ShippingGoggles combine in a very nasty way with the fandom's defensiveness of his asexuality: In most shows, to fans, the two leads being close means they're shagging. In Doctor Who, the two leads being close means they're shagging - and therefore the Doctor and the series are RuinedForever.
***From the other direction when it comes to the Doctor's asexuality: The idea that he's ''completely'' asexual and aromantic mostly derives from the Fourth Doctor's line in ''City of Death,'' "You're a beautiful woman, probably." Since the First Doctor's first companion had been his own ''granddaughter,'' chances are that line wasn't intended to say romance is 100% foreign to him.



** The Eleventh Doctor only had one main episode where he wore a fez hat, but since then, almost every drawing of him includes him wearing it.

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** The Eleventh Doctor only had one main episode where he wore a fez hat, but since then, almost every drawing of him includes him wearing it. (There were a couple later ContinuityNod moments where he wore a fez for about two seconds each.)



** Rory has been referred to ''in-show'' as "the man who dies and dies again." He's only done it for real once. He's just... very good at creating the ''illusion'' of death. By accident. Lots.

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** Rory has been referred to ''in-show'' as "the man who dies and dies again." He's only done it for real once. He's just... very good at creating the ''illusion'' of death. By accident. Lots. It's also strange that Rory alone is remembered for this - Steven Moffat has a habit of having ''everyone'' die a lot.
2nd Apr '17 1:06:15 AM pointycatears
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** The Eleventh Doctor only had one main episode where he wore a fez hat, but since then, almost every drawing of him includes him wearing it.


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** How could anyone forget the time when Felicity [[spoiler: blew up an entire city because she somehow wasn't able to redirect the bomb to a much less populated place than its original destination?]]
27th Mar '17 3:45:25 AM LondonKdS
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** A good part of the fandom remember Martha Jones only for her unrequired crush on the Doctor despite having more personnality than that and actually gets over him by season 4.
** In 'The Shakespeare Code', when the Doctor and Martha are lost in their case, the former makes the [[InformedAbility odd statement]] that his previous companion Rose Tyler would know what to do to Martha's understandable annoyance. The Tenth Doctor never brings Rose again to Martha yet he's often remembered as spending the entire third season mourning Rose and gushing about how great she was.

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** A good part of the fandom remember remembers Martha Jones only for her unrequired unrequited crush on the Doctor Doctor, despite having more personnality personality than that and actually gets getting over him by season 4.
it at the end of her season.
** In 'The Shakespeare Code', when the Doctor and Martha are lost in their case, confused about what is going on, the former makes the [[InformedAbility odd statement]] that his previous companion Rose Tyler would know what to do or at least say something to inspire a realisation, to Martha's understandable annoyance. The Tenth Doctor never brings up Rose again to Martha yet he's often remembered as spending the entire third season mourning Rose her and gushing about how great much better than Martha she was.
21st Feb '17 1:59:01 AM TheCuza
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* In-universe example from ''Series/{{Gotham}}'': ProfessionalKiller Patrick "Matches" Malone laments that, despite the many different methods he has used to kill people during his hits, people call him "Matches" because of the one and only time he burned someone to death.

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* In-universe example from ''Series/{{Gotham}}'': ProfessionalKiller Patrick "Matches" Malone laments that, that despite the many countless different methods he has used to kill people during throughout his hits, people call him long career, he got stuck with the nickname "Matches" Malone because of the one and only that ''one'' time he burned someone to death.
17th Feb '17 12:06:08 PM gb00393
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** Several examples in-universe:
*** Jaime Lannister is derogatorily known as "Kingslayer" for his BodyguardBetrayal, even by people who knew said king was insane and whose successful rebellion forced Jaime into that position. Jaime has struggled with ThenLetMeBeEvil ever since.
*** Catelyn never quite forgives or forgets Ned bringing home his infant illegitimate son.
*** The Lannisters and perhaps the Boltons are careful to officially distance themselves from the Red Wedding, since they know such a blatant violation of SacredHospitality will stain them for generations.
--> '''Tyrion:''' Oh, I know. Walder Frey gets all the credit... or the blame, I suppose, depending on your alliegence.
13th Feb '17 8:41:50 PM sayaleviathan
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** The infamous [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sggmx8vysoc "bad pussy"]] line uttered by Tyene Sand to Bronn is forever associated to Dorne arc in Season 5. This line became a FanNickname for Tyene.
25th Jan '17 7:37:14 PM nombretomado
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** Fran will occasionally rub Mr. Sheffield's nose in his decision to pass on producing ''{{Cats}}'' for Broadway.

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** Fran will occasionally rub Mr. Sheffield's nose in his decision to pass on producing ''{{Cats}}'' ''Theatre/{{Cats}}'' for Broadway.
17th Jan '17 1:44:18 PM eowynjedi
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* Say the name "Wesley Crusher" in a room full of nerds and someone is guaranteed to bring up the myth that at least every other episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' he's the one who "saved the ship" or came up with the needed solution despite being only 16 and being in a crew that includes an Android with total recall, not to mention that the ''Enterprise'' is where the best of the best officers are assigned. He probably did "save the day" too often, but still, the number of times he actually did so, in less than four seasons, totals ''six'', which is hardly "every other episode." Not to mention that his almost unnatural brilliance was part of the character. If ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' had attempted something similar with Jake, who was meant to be of average intelligence, it would have been far less appropriate.
* ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'':
** Harry Kim and his habit of dying and coming back to life. It's been exaggerated by the fans, though, to the point where someone who only knew the show through its fans would think Harry's grave says "Harry Kim: Born: 2351. Died: 2371, 2372, 2373, 2374..."
** An in-universe example is his habit of constantly falling for women he can't get. It gets to the point where every time he starts a relationship, his buddy Tom Paris goes off on a litany of every doomed romance he's started in his time on the ship.



* ''Series/{{Star Trek|The Original Series}}'''s James Kirk is well known as a [[BoldlyComing space-traveling playboy]] who has more notches than bedpost. In fact, despite [[GaussianGirl liberal use of soft lens and hey-look-a-pretty-girl music]], Kirk didn't get involved with many of the women he met in his travels, and when he ''did'', it was usually because a) he needed something, or b) alien sex pollen/some sort of mental control. The sole exception to this is Edith Keeler, whom he genuinely did have feelings for. He was even occasionally portrayed as an uptight boy scout, and he ''never'' slept with a member of his crew. And the rest of the male cast seemed to get involved with women at least as often as Kirk did.
** Although let's not forget "Wink of an Eye" in which after the commercial break the leader of the aliens is combing her hair and the good captain is on the bed ''putting on his boots''.
** He does seem to fall pretty hard for android woman Rayna, to the point that when he accidentally causes her death he's sunk into such a pit of depression that Spock ends up [[MindRape Mind Raping]] him into forgetting her. ('Cos, hey, StatusQuoIsGod.)
** Oh, and let's not forget that half the time that seductive smile was directed at ''[[HoYay Spock]].''
** Similarly, we don't actually see Scotty drunk or drinking that often, and the most stand-out example was him trying to put one over on an enemy, but in fanfic he's ''the'' guy you go to for booze. (The fact that the character is Scottish probably adds to this.)
*** The funniest part about this is that more often than not ''Dr [=McCoy=]'' is the one with all the booze.
*** There's also his boisterous appreciation of the bellydancing in "Wolf in the Fold" and his being the only Original Series crewmember to start a barfight ("Trouble with Tribbles"). That probably adds to his interpretation as the party animal of the original Enterprise.
*** Again, the "Wolf in the Fold" example is actually better attributed to Doctor [=McCoy=] -- he prescribed going to see the dancer to Scotty as a ''medical treatment''!
** In a somewhat odd example, Chekov's made-in-Russia bit never became the full-blown running gag it was originally meant to be, but the way the fans go on you wouldn't know better without watching the series yourself.
** An in-universe example in "Spock's Brain"--[=McCoy=] says this about [[ItMakesSenseInContext Spock directing his own brain surgery]].

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* ''Series/{{Star Trek|The Original Series}}'''s ''Franchise/StarTrek''
** ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'''
James T. Kirk is well known as a [[BoldlyComing space-traveling playboy]] who has more notches than bedpost. In fact, despite bedpost (including an infamous scene in "Wink of an Eye" which has him putting on his boots as the alien leader lady combs her hair). Despite [[GaussianGirl liberal use of soft lens and hey-look-a-pretty-girl music]], Kirk didn't get usually got involved with many of the these women he met in his travels, and when he ''did'', it was usually because a) he needed something, of mind control or b) alien sex pollen/some sort of mental control. The sole exception to this is Edith Keeler, whom he genuinely did have feelings for. He it was even occasionally portrayed as an uptight boy scout, and he ''never'' slept with a member of (conveniently) part of his crew. And attempt to save the rest of the male cast seemed to get involved with women at least as often as Kirk did.
ship.
** Although let's not forget "Wink of an Eye" in which after the commercial break the leader of the aliens is combing her hair and the good captain is on the bed ''putting on his boots''.
** He does seem to fall pretty hard for android woman Rayna, to the point that when he accidentally causes her death he's sunk into such a pit of depression that Spock ends up [[MindRape Mind Raping]] him into forgetting her. ('Cos, hey, StatusQuoIsGod.)
** Oh, and let's not forget that half the time that seductive smile was directed at ''[[HoYay Spock]].''
** Similarly, we don't
Scotty isn't actually see Scotty shown as drunk or drinking that to excess very often, and but the most stand-out example was scene where he tries to steal an alien's control device by drinking him trying to put one over on an enemy, but in fanfic he's ''the'' under the table is so memorable that fanfiction turns him into the ship's go-to guy you go to for booze. (The fact that the character is (In actuality, you're more likely to find it in Dr. [=McCoy's=] office.) His image as a boozy Scottish probably adds to this.)
*** The funniest part about this is that more often than not ''Dr [=McCoy=]'' is the one with all the booze.
*** There's also his boisterous appreciation of the bellydancing in "Wolf in the Fold" and his being the only Original Series crewmember to start a barfight ("Trouble with Tribbles"). That probably adds to his interpretation as the
party animal is a little at odds with a guy who reads technical manuals for fun.
** Say the name "Wesley Crusher" in a room full of nerds and someone is guaranteed to bring up the myth that at least every other episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' he's the one who "saved the ship" or came up with the needed solution despite being only 16 and being in a crew specifically made up
of the original Enterprise.
*** Again,
best of Starfleet that includes an Android with total recall. He probably did "save the "Wolf in day" too often, but still, the Fold" example is number of times he actually better attributed did so, in less than four seasons, totals ''six'', which is hardly "every other episode." Not to Doctor [=McCoy=] -- he prescribed mention that his almost unnatural brilliance was part of the character. If ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' had attempted something similar with Jake, who was meant to be of average intelligence, it would have been far less appropriate.
** ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'''s Captain Sisko can never live down the events in "For the Uniform." After Maquis defector Michael Eddington spends half the episode comparing himself to [[Literature/LesMiserables Jean Valjean]], Sisko (who takes Eddington's betrayal [[ItsPersonal very, very personally]]) decides he's
going to see damn well be Javert and fires a bioweapon into the dancer atmosphere of a Maquis planet that renders it uninhabitable to Scotty as a ''medical treatment''!
** In a somewhat odd example, Chekov's made-in-Russia bit never became the full-blown running gag it was originally meant
humans, forcing Eddington to be, but the way the fans go on you wouldn't know better without watching the series yourself.
** An in-universe example in "Spock's Brain"--[=McCoy=] says
surrender. Viewers will frequently call this about [[ItMakesSenseInContext Spock directing his own brain surgery]].decision "genocidal," even though Sisko allowed an evacuation and really just made them swap back with the Cardassians, because ''poisoning planets was Eddington's idea in the first place''.


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** ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'''s Harry Kim and his habit of dying and coming back to life. It's been exaggerated by the fans, though, to the point where someone who only knew the show through its fans would think Harry's grave says "Harry Kim: Born: 2351. Died: 2371, 2372, 2373, 2374..." An in-universe example is his habit of constantly falling for women he can't get. It gets to the point where every time he starts a relationship, his buddy Tom Paris goes off on a litany of every doomed romance he's started in his time on the ship.
** You can expect every decision Kathryn Janeway makes to be picked over and ripped apart to within an inch of its life by people who dislike her, but the ones that come up most often are separating "Tuvix" back into Tuvok and Neelix against his will, and her temporary alliance with the Borg.
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