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9th Jan '16 6:25:20 AM shamblingdead2
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* In-universe example in ''{{Series/MASH}}'', during an episode when Hot Lips demands a transfer from the 4077th, citing Hawkeye and Trapper's hijinks as one cause:
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* In-universe example in ''{{Series/MASH}}'', during an episode when Hot Lips (whose nickname itself is an example) demands a transfer from the 4077th, citing Hawkeye and Trapper's hijinks as one cause:

* Dennis Franz showed his naked ass for a very small part of one episode of ''NYPDBlue''. Ask a casual fan and you'd think the guy never wore pants.
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* Dennis Franz [[FanDisservice showed his naked ass ass]] for a very small part of one episode of ''NYPDBlue''. Ask a casual fan and you'd think the guy never wore pants.
2nd Jan '16 11:09:04 PM nombretomado
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* TheSopranos is remembered as a great show, but the main thing that it's known for fading to black mid-scene at the end of the SeriesFinale.
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* TheSopranos ''Series/TheSopranos'' is remembered as a great show, but the main thing that it's known for fading to black mid-scene at the end of the SeriesFinale.
25th Dec '15 10:34:08 AM kquinn0830
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** Many ''Tool Time'' fans also bring up the time he fell through the roof of a porta potty.
22nd Dec '15 6:21:53 PM areanna123
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* On ''Series/{{Person Of Interest}}'' Shaw is short and everyone has noticed, from one of her descriptors on her medical files being 'compact', to the actress tweeting that she's "not that short". And of course it gets a mention in every fanfic.
15th Dec '15 3:19:47 AM xxAngelFaithxx
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** Fans who hate Neal/Emma do so on the basis that he framed her and sent her to prison just because August told him to.
27th Nov '15 11:57:53 AM nombretomado
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* In ''TheBradyBunch'', Jan only said "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!" ONCE in the whole series. ** The line underwent MemeticMutation thanks to a series of early-'90s "Weekend Update" sketches on ''SaturdayNightLive'', in which Melanie Hutsell's unhinged Jan appeared as an editorial commentator. Its iconic status was further sealed by ''[[TheFilmOfTheSeries The Brady Bunch Movie]]''. * Similarly, in ''{{Friends}}'', Chandler utters his famous catchphrase "Could x ''be'' more y?" maybe twice. Yet somehow, it becomes the go-to tease whenever any of the other characters mock him.
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* In ''TheBradyBunch'', ''Series/TheBradyBunch'', Jan only said "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!" ONCE in the whole series. ** The line underwent MemeticMutation thanks to a series of early-'90s "Weekend Update" sketches on ''SaturdayNightLive'', ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'', in which Melanie Hutsell's unhinged Jan appeared as an editorial commentator. Its iconic status was further sealed by ''[[TheFilmOfTheSeries The Brady Bunch Movie]]''. * Similarly, in ''{{Friends}}'', ''Series/{{Friends}}'', Chandler utters his famous catchphrase "Could x ''be'' more y?" maybe twice. Yet somehow, it becomes the go-to tease whenever any of the other characters mock him.
21st Oct '15 4:39:07 PM pinkdalek
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* A recurring joke about the Daleks in ''Series/DoctorWho'' was their inability to go up stairs. This weakness was addressed in the 1988 serial 'Remembrance of the Daleks', but the jokes persisted at least up until 2005, when 'Dalek' -- which also addressed this point -- was shown. It's perhaps worth pointing out that, by the time the first story aired, the audience of ''Doctor Who'' was roughly three guys and a dog, so it's possible that not enough people actually saw it for the change to sink in. ** It was addressed before then - one earlier episode showed them to have ''somehow'' got up a staircase without it actually being shown on screen. ** And in some quarters it's ''still'' what the Daleks are most famous for, despite the fact that the Daleks, in at least the Russell T Davies era, spend half their time flying around like nobody's business. (A large portion of the Daleks' appearances in the Steven Moffat era have been inside the Dalek Asylum and on board a Dalek spaceship, though hovering Daleks still make appearances.) ** When Donna Noble first appeared in 'The Runaway Bride', she slapped the Doctor twice (once because she thought she'd been drugged and kidnapped, another time because he was being rather deriding of that). Since then, she's never slapped him again, and went through a lot of CharacterDevelopment to become the Doctor's moral compass. Her main characteristic in fanfiction is slapping ''everyone''. Well, that and her [[spoiler: memory loss. That particular plot point created the 'Donna Fix-It' fic.]] ** The Sixth Doctor trying to choke his companion Peri to death after a dodgy regeneration. It's still what many fans remember him for. ** The Tenth Doctor's last words; "I don't want to go." A {{Tear Jerker}} for some but {{Narm}} for others. *** It didn't help that this was preceded by Ten being completely horrified of his impending death, acting like he would really die and the next Doctor would be someone entirely different, something ''none'' of the previous Doctors did. *** Or that he ended his appearance in the 50th Anniversary special by saying it ''again'', for no real in-universe reason. And then Eleven actually tells Clara "He always says that."
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* A ''Series/DoctorWho'': ** No-one will ever forgive the First Doctor for being a {{Jerkass}} in the first episode, and then for the bit in the third episode when [[WhatTheHellHero Ian caught him apparently about to bash a man's brains in with a rock]]. The fact that he soon gets some CharacterDevelopment, TookALevelInKindness and quickly develops into a funny, giggly TricksterArchetype with a pronounced belief in justice and a [[{{Determinator}} backbone of solid Dalekanium]] is ignored by many people, with the First Doctor popularly known as 'the GrumpyOldMan who once tried to kill someone with a rock'. **A recurring joke about the Daleks in ''Series/DoctorWho'' was is their inability to go up stairs. Two Classic serials ("The Chase" in 1964 and "Destiny of the Daleks" in 1979) have characters pointing this weakness out - in the latter case, it's key to the Doctor's plan to escape! This weakness was addressed in the 1988 serial 'Remembrance "Remembrance of the Daleks', Daleks", but the jokes persisted at least up until 2005, when 'Dalek' "Dalek" -- which also addressed this point -- was shown. It's perhaps worth pointing out that, by the time the first story aired, the audience of ''Doctor Who'' was roughly three guys and a dog, so it's possible that not enough people actually saw it for the change to sink in. ** *** It was addressed before then - one earlier episode showed them to have ''somehow'' got up a staircase without it actually being shown on screen. ** *** And in some quarters it's ''still'' what the Daleks are most famous for, despite the fact that the Daleks, in at least the Russell T Davies era, spend half their time flying around like nobody's business. (A large portion of the Daleks' appearances in the Steven Moffat era have been inside the Dalek Asylum and on board a Dalek spaceship, though hovering Daleks still make appearances.) ** When Donna Noble first appeared in 'The Runaway Bride', she slapped the Doctor twice (once because she thought she'd been drugged and kidnapped, another time because he was being rather deriding of that). Since then, she's never slapped him again, and went through a lot of CharacterDevelopment to become the Doctor's moral compass. Her main characteristic in fanfiction is slapping ''everyone''. Well, that and her [[spoiler: memory loss. That particular plot point created the 'Donna Fix-It' fic.]] ** The Sixth Doctor trying to choke his companion Peri to death after a dodgy regeneration. It's still what many fans remember him for. ** The Tenth Doctor's last words; "I don't want to go." A {{Tear Jerker}} for some but {{Narm}} for others. *** It didn't help that this was preceded by Ten being completely horrified of his impending death, acting like he would really die and the next Doctor would be someone entirely different, something ''none'' of the previous Doctors did. *** Or that he ended his appearance in the 50th Anniversary special by saying it ''again'', for no real in-universe reason. And then Eleven actually tells Clara "He always says that.")

* A recurring joke about the Daleks in ''Series/DoctorWho'' was their inability to go up stairs. This weakness was addressed in the 1988 serial 'Remembrance of the Daleks', but the jokes persisted at least up until 2005, when 'Dalek' -- which also addressed this point -- was shown. It's perhaps worth pointing out that, by the time the first story aired, the audience of ''Doctor Who'' was roughly three guys and a dog, so it's possible that not enough people actually saw it for the change to sink in. ** It was addressed before then - one earlier episode showed them to have ''somehow'' got up a staircase without it actually being shown on screen. ** And in some quarters it's ''still'' what the Daleks are most famous for, despite the fact that the Daleks, in at least the Russell T Davies era, spend half their time flying around like nobody's business. (A large portion of the Daleks' appearances in the Steven Moffat era have been inside the Dalek Asylum and on board a Dalek spaceship, though hovering Daleks still make appearances.) ** When Donna Noble first appeared in 'The Runaway Bride', she slapped the Doctor twice (once because she thought she'd been drugged and kidnapped, another time because he was being rather deriding of that). Since then, she's never slapped him again, and went through a A lot of CharacterDevelopment to become traits associated with the Doctor's moral compass. Her main characteristic character in fanfiction is slapping ''everyone''. Well, that and her [[spoiler: memory loss. That particular plot point created general are actually just traits of the 'Donna Fix-It' fic.]] ** The Sixth more popular incarnations, usually the Fourth or Tenth - a sort of vague conglomerate ShallowParody Doctor trying who Victorian clothing and a long scarf, eats jelly babies, is always comically dramatic about everything, suffers great and dramatic internal conflict over [[DirtyBusiness all the genocide he has to choke his companion Peri to death after do]], kisses teenagers and cries about it, and won't touch a dodgy regeneration. It's still what many fans remember him for. ** The Tenth Doctor's last words; "I don't want to go." A {{Tear Jerker}} for some but {{Narm}} for others. *** It didn't help gun. Gareth Roberts (a writer on the New series) pointed out in an interview that this was preceded by Ten being completely horrified of his impending death, acting like he would really die and there's an idea that the next Doctor would be someone entirely different, talks in AntiquatedLinguistics, something ''none'' of only so much as touched upon by the previous Doctors did. *** Or that he ended his appearance in the 50th Anniversary special by saying it ''again'', for no real in-universe reason. And Fourth and Sixth, and even then Eleven only in moments. ** The Fourth Doctor actually tells Clara "He always says that."wasn't as big on the [[TrademarkFavouriteFood jelly babies]] as people remember - at least until the Graham Williams era [[LighterAndSofter kicked off]]. He offers some to Sarah and Harry at the end of "Robot" and tosses the bag to Vira at the end of "The Ark in Space", and a second bag appears amongst various CowTools when turning out his pockets in "Genesis of the Daleks" (in a scene it's really easy to miss). That's it for the whole of Season 12. They don't appear at all in Season 13. In fact, the Doctor uses his ''yo-yo'' gimmick more frequently than the jelly babies in the Hinchcliffe era (making nine appearances versus the jelly babies' six appearances). Somehow, simply because it was featured early on, the jelly baby association stuck enough that featuring more jelly baby scenes in Season 14 ("The Face of Evil" and "The Robots of Death" both use jelly babies cleverly) was catering to fan demand (see the letter to Robert Holmes featured on the DVD of "The Brain of Morbius" in which a fan asks what happened to the Doctor's jelly babies). It's not until Season 15 that the "Hello, I'm the Doctor, would you like a jelly baby?" routine begins to show up, and even then it's still absent more often than it's used. ** Sarah Jane is stereotyped as getting constantly hypnotised or possessed - Sarah herself lampshades this in her final scene ("Getting hypnotised left, right and centre!"). This only happens three times - "Planet of the Spiders", "The Masque of Mandragora" and "The Hand of Fear" - four if you count when she was hypnotised (consensually) by the Doctor in "Terror of the Zygons" to keep her from suffocating.

** Rory has been referred to ''in-show'' as "the man who dies and dies again." He's only done it for real once. He's just... very good at creating the ''illusion'' of death. By accident. Lots.
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** Rory The Sixth Doctor trying to choke his companion Peri to death after a dodgy regeneration. It's still what many fans remember him for. ** The fact that the Eighth Doctor was the first Doctor to openly snog his companion is enough that he is strongly associated with snogging in the fandom memory and serves as a target for all the [[{{Squee}} joy]] and [[InternetBackdraft horror]] that implies, even though his successors the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors did more snogging than he did. Each. This reputation was arguably deserved at the time the movie came out, but even after the Ninth Doctor confirmed himself to enjoy sex and snogged a bloke, the Tenth Doctor won awards for an episode about him seducing and shagging a courtesan and the Eleventh Doctor has been referred to ''in-show'' as "the man who dies had a whole [[AnArc Arc]] about his marriage and dies again." He's consummation of it with a female character, the Eighth Doctor is still stereotyped as the sex-maniac. ** The Eighth Doctor in ExpandedUniverse works is always losing his memory, because it's a memorable (heh) thing that happened in the movie that is his only done it TV appearance. Thing is, the Doctor is ''always'' [[ResurrectionSickness out of sorts for real once. He's just... a while after regenerating]], and what we got in the movie is typical for that period. There's no reason to assume Eight would be particularly susceptible to memory loss, it's just that it was a big part of his only onscreen appearance. ** The Ninth Doctor called humans '[[FantasticRacism stupid apes]]' once, but it's become something very good strongly associated with his character - not just in fanfiction, where he drops 'ape' at creating least once a fic, but Christopher Eccleston even did it himself while briefly reprising his role [[CreatorBacklash (!)]] in a guest video for the ''illusion'' of death. By accident. Lots.BFI's ''Doctor Who'' 50th Anniversary party: -->...I, the Ninth Doctor, vow to save the universe and all you apes in it.

** The fact that the Eighth Doctor was the first Doctor to openly snog his companion (and just for fun) is enough that he is strongly associated with snogging in the fandom memory and serves as a target for all the [[{{Squee}} joy]] and [[InternetBackdraft horror]] that implies, even though his successors the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors all did more snogging than he did. Each. This reputation was arguably deserved at the time the movie came out, but even after the Ninth Doctor confirmed himself to enjoy sex and snogged a bloke, the Tenth Doctor won awards for an episode about him seducing and shagging a courtesan and the Eleventh Doctor has had a whole [[AnArc Arc]] about his marriage and consummation of it with a female character, the Eighth Doctor is still stereotyped as the sex-maniac. ** The Ninth Doctor called humans '[[FantasticRacism stupid apes]]' once, but it's become something very strongly associated with his character - not just in fanfiction, where he drops 'ape' at least once a fic, but Christopher Eccleston even did it himself while briefly reprising his role [[CreatorBacklash (!)]] in a guest video for the BFI's ''Doctor Who'' 50th Anniversary party: -->...I, the Ninth Doctor, vow to save the universe and all you apes in it.
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** The fact that the Eighth Doctor was the first Doctor to openly snog his companion (and just for fun) is enough that he is strongly associated with snogging in A good part of the fandom memory and serves as a target remember Martha Jones only for all her unrequired crush on the [[{{Squee}} joy]] and [[InternetBackdraft horror]] that implies, even though his successors the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors all did more snogging than he did. Each. This reputation was arguably deserved at the time the movie came out, but even after the Ninth Doctor confirmed himself to enjoy sex despite having more personnality than that and snogged a bloke, the Tenth Doctor won awards for an episode about actually gets over him seducing and shagging a courtesan and the Eleventh Doctor has had a whole [[AnArc Arc]] about his marriage and consummation of it with a female character, the Eighth Doctor is still stereotyped as the sex-maniac. ** The Ninth Doctor called humans '[[FantasticRacism stupid apes]]' once, but it's become something very strongly associated with his character - not just in fanfiction, where he drops 'ape' at least once a fic, but Christopher Eccleston even did it himself while briefly reprising his role [[CreatorBacklash (!)]] in a guest video for the BFI's ''Doctor Who'' 50th Anniversary party: -->...I, the Ninth Doctor, vow to save the universe and all you apes in it.by season 4.

** A lot of traits associated with the Doctor's character in general are actually just traits of the more popular incarnations, usually the Fourth or Tenth. For example, the assumption of the Doctor dressing in Victorian clothing, offering aliens jelly babies and being an unapologetic ManChild, and the assumption of the Doctor being a glamorous, hip and unconventionally handsome stranger who detests guns to the point of phobia, falls in love easily and experiences the most beautiful [[ManlyTears manpain]]. Gareth Roberts (a writer on the New series) pointed out in an interview that there's a ShallowParody idea that the Doctor talks in AntiquatedLinguistics, an exaggeration of a quirk found in only two Doctors - the Fourth, from whom the idea probably originates (who tended to use "I say" and plenty of [[WithDueRespect sarcastic Victorian politeness when dealing with villains]]) and the Sixth (whose general SesquipedalianLoquaciousness personality quirk meant he often used uncommon and antiquated words for the sound of them). Most other Doctors - and even the Fourth and Sixth the vast majority of the time - talk in fairly ordinary contemporary English. ** No-one will ever forgive the First Doctor for being a {{Jerkass}} in the first episode, and then for the bit in the third episode when [[WhatTheHellHero Ian caught him apparently about to bash a man's brains in with a rock]]. The fact that he soon gets some CharacterDevelopment, TookALevelInKindness and quickly develops into a funny, giggly TricksterArchetype with a pronounced belief in justice and a [[{{Determinator}} backbone of solid Dalekanium]] is ignored by many people, with the First Doctor popularly known as 'the GrumpyOldMan who once tried to kill someone with a rock'. *** {{SF Debris}} actually went a bit farther with this, speculating that the Doctor was later remorseful that he was about to do such a selfish thing, and Ian stopping him is what first got him thinking he should have human companions. *** The AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho play "The Time Museum" all ends up coming down to the part where the First Doctor tried to kill someone with a rock, although putting the opposite spin on it - Ian Chesterton provides the AlternateCharacterInterpretation that the Doctor was performing an [[ShootTheDog act of kindness]], performing a quick MercyKill on a man seriously injured in a time before even basic medicine while simultaneously preventing the crew's recapture, and points out that as a result of his preventing the Doctor from doing it, more people died and they were forced to teach the cavemen how to make fire, [[StableTimeLoop altering the entire history of the human race]]. This realisation enables Ian to declare that he learned things from the Doctor and get down to some DirtyBusiness in his name. **** The truth is more complicated, because we have NeverLiveItDown about the rock incident ''and'' a belief by many newer fans that the Doctor has always been the way that he is. The fact is that One was ''not'' nigh-villainous... but he ''didn't'' suddenly go from his day-one characterization to his 2000s characterization overnight. He wasn't conceived as TheHero but as the cranky old fogey whose one useful point was that he knew how to fly the ship. They couldn't have him constantly trying to ''kill'' people, but the climb from his day-one self to being the hero we know was a gradual one. The first time he saw a bad thing happening and said "We must stop this" was in the fifth ''story,'' but the early serials were longer than the usual 3-4 episodes of the later ones; we're talking well after twenty episodes. Longer still until he made a ''habit'' of being the one to be gung-ho about righting wrongs and saving the day. SF Debris links it with the portrayal of the Doctor's dark side as seen with the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors: After everything he's seen he's got a ''lot'' of rage bottled up that could easily make him a KnightTemplar, and companions humanize him, staving this off. Apparently, he was on his own for too long before meeting Barbara and Ian. The show also tries to bring the day-one portrayal in line with his later heroism by saying that the Daleks were the first time he encountered true evil and embarked on his current path (but again, ''watch'' the first season and you'll know that isn't so.) Of course, the First Doctor era went on long enough that his day-one persona definitely ''isn't'' what he was like for most of his screentime, and even further appearances and references in the show prove that he was heroic from the start; his earliest portrayal is probably best explained by the SF Debris's idea. But he'd have to have been on his own very a ''very'' long time after some Time War-class horrors. ** The Eighth Doctor in ExpandedUniverse works is always losing his memory, because it's a memorable (heh) thing that happened in the movie that is his only TV appearance. Thing is, the Doctor is ''always'' [[ResurrectionSickness out of sorts for a while after regenerating]], and what we got in the movie is typical for that period. There's no reason to assume Eight would be particularly susceptible to memory loss, it's just that it was a big part of his only onscreen appearance. ** A good part of the fandom remember Martha Jones only for her unrequired crush on the Doctor despite having more personnality than that and actually gets over him by season 4.
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** A When Donna Noble first appeared in "The Runaway Bride", she slapped the Doctor twice (once because she thought she'd been drugged and kidnapped, another time because he was being rather deriding of that). Since then, she's never slapped him again, and went through a lot of traits associated with CharacterDevelopment to become the Doctor's character moral compass. Her main characteristic in general are actually just traits of the more popular incarnations, usually the Fourth or Tenth. For example, the assumption of the Doctor dressing in Victorian clothing, offering aliens jelly babies fanfiction is slapping ''everyone''. Well, that and being an unapologetic ManChild, and the assumption of the Doctor being a glamorous, hip and unconventionally handsome stranger who detests guns to the her [[spoiler: memory loss. That particular plot point of phobia, falls in love easily and experiences created the most beautiful [[ManlyTears manpain]]. Gareth Roberts (a writer on the New series) pointed out in an interview that there's a ShallowParody idea that the Doctor talks in AntiquatedLinguistics, an exaggeration of a quirk found in only two Doctors - the Fourth, from whom the idea probably originates (who tended to use "I say" and plenty of [[WithDueRespect sarcastic Victorian politeness when dealing with villains]]) and the Sixth (whose general SesquipedalianLoquaciousness personality quirk meant he often used uncommon and antiquated words for the sound of them). Most other Doctors - and even the Fourth and Sixth the vast majority of the time - talk in fairly ordinary contemporary English. 'Donna Fix-It' fic.]] ** No-one will ever forgive the First Doctor for being a {{Jerkass}} in the first episode, and then for the bit in the third episode when [[WhatTheHellHero Ian caught him apparently about to bash a man's brains in with a rock]]. The fact that he soon gets some CharacterDevelopment, TookALevelInKindness and quickly develops into a funny, giggly TricksterArchetype with a pronounced belief in justice and a [[{{Determinator}} backbone of solid Dalekanium]] is ignored by many people, with the First Doctor popularly known as 'the GrumpyOldMan who once tried to kill someone with a rock'. *** {{SF Debris}} actually went a bit farther with this, speculating that the Doctor was later remorseful that he was about to do such a selfish thing, and Ian stopping him is what first got him thinking he should have human companions. *** The AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho play "The Time Museum" all ends up coming down to the part where the First Doctor tried to kill someone with a rock, although putting the opposite spin on it - Ian Chesterton provides the AlternateCharacterInterpretation that the Doctor was performing an [[ShootTheDog act of kindness]], performing a quick MercyKill on a man seriously injured in a time before even basic medicine while simultaneously preventing the crew's recapture, and points out that as a result of his preventing the Doctor from doing it, more people died and they were forced to teach the cavemen how to make fire, [[StableTimeLoop altering the entire history of the human race]]. This realisation enables Ian to declare that he learned things from the Doctor and get down to some DirtyBusiness in his name. **** The truth is more complicated, because we have NeverLiveItDown about the rock incident ''and'' a belief by many newer fans that the Doctor has always been the way that he is. The fact is that One was ''not'' nigh-villainous... but he ''didn't'' suddenly go from his day-one characterization to his 2000s characterization overnight. He wasn't conceived as TheHero but as the cranky old fogey whose one useful point was that he knew how to fly the ship. They couldn't have him constantly trying to ''kill'' people, but the climb from his day-one self to being the hero we know was a gradual one. The first time he saw a bad thing happening and said "We must stop this" was in the fifth ''story,'' but the early serials were longer than the usual 3-4 episodes of the later ones; we're talking well after twenty episodes. Longer still until he made a ''habit'' of being the one to be gung-ho about righting wrongs and saving the day. SF Debris links it with the portrayal of the Tenth Doctor's dark side as seen with the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors: After everything he's seen he's got a ''lot'' of rage bottled up last words; "I don't want to go." A {{Tear Jerker}} for some but {{Narm}} for others. *** It didn't help that could easily make him a KnightTemplar, and companions humanize him, staving this off. Apparently, he was on preceded by Ten being completely horrified of his own for too long before meeting Barbara impending death, acting like he would really die and Ian. The show also tries to bring the day-one portrayal in line with next Doctor would be someone entirely different, something ''none'' of the previous Doctors did. *** Or that he ended his later heroism appearance in the 50th Anniversary special by saying that the Daleks were the first time he encountered true evil and embarked on his current path (but again, ''watch'' the first season and you'll know that isn't so.) Of course, the First Doctor era went on long enough that his day-one persona definitely ''isn't'' what he was like it ''again'', for most of his screentime, and even further appearances and references in the show prove that he was heroic from the start; his earliest portrayal is probably best explained by the SF Debris's idea. But he'd have to have been on his own very a ''very'' long time after some Time War-class horrors. ** The Eighth Doctor in ExpandedUniverse works is always losing his memory, because it's a memorable (heh) thing that happened in the movie that is his only TV appearance. Thing is, the Doctor is ''always'' [[ResurrectionSickness out of sorts for a while after regenerating]], and what we got in the movie is typical for that period. There's no reason to assume Eight would be particularly susceptible to memory loss, it's just that it was a big part of his only onscreen appearance. ** A good part of the fandom remember Martha Jones only for her unrequired crush on the Doctor despite having more personnality than that and real in-universe reason. And then Eleven actually gets over him by season 4.tells Clara "He always says that."

** The Fourth Doctor actually wasn't as big on the [[TrademarkFavouriteFood jelly babies]] as people remember - at least until the Graham Williams era [[LighterAndSofter kicked off]]. He offers some to Sarah and Harry at the end of "Robot" and tosses the bag to Vira at the end of "The Ark in Space", and a second bag appears amongst various CowTools when turning out his pockets in "Genesis of the Daleks" (in a scene it's really easy to miss). That's it for the whole of Season 12. They don't appear at all in Season 13. Somehow, simply because it was featured early on, the jelly baby association stuck enough that featuring more jelly baby scenes in Season 14 ("The Face of Evil" and "The Robots of Death" both use jelly babies cleverly) was catering to fan demand. It's not until Season 15 that the "Hello, I'm the Doctor, would you like a jelly baby?" routine begins to show up, and even then it's still absent more often than it's used.
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** The Fourth Doctor actually wasn't Rory has been referred to ''in-show'' as big on the [[TrademarkFavouriteFood jelly babies]] as people remember - at least until the Graham Williams era [[LighterAndSofter kicked off]]. He offers some to Sarah "the man who dies and Harry at the end of "Robot" and tosses the bag to Vira at the end of "The Ark in Space", and a second bag appears amongst various CowTools when turning out his pockets in "Genesis of the Daleks" (in a scene it's really easy to miss). That's dies again." He's only done it for real once. He's just... very good at creating the whole ''illusion'' of Season 12. They don't appear at all in Season 13. Somehow, simply because it was featured early on, the jelly baby association stuck enough that featuring more jelly baby scenes in Season 14 ("The Face of Evil" and "The Robots of Death" both use jelly babies cleverly) was catering to fan demand. It's not until Season 15 that the "Hello, I'm the Doctor, would you like a jelly baby?" routine begins to show up, and even then it's still absent more often than it's used.death. By accident. Lots.
13th Oct '15 11:17:01 PM IronInfidel
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*** Again, the "Wolf in the Fold" example is actually better attributed to Doctor McCoy -- he prescribed going to see the dancer to Scotty as a ''medical treatment''!
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*** Again, the "Wolf in the Fold" example is actually better attributed to Doctor McCoy [=McCoy=] -- he prescribed going to see the dancer to Scotty as a ''medical treatment''!
13th Oct '15 11:15:37 PM IronInfidel
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*** Again, the "Wolf in the Fold" example is actually better attributed to Doctor McCoy -- he prescribed going to see the dancer to Scotty as a ''medical treatment''!
3rd Oct '15 9:59:46 AM nombretomado
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* Ben Wyatt of ''ParksAndRecreation'' won a brief measure of nationwide fame when he rode a wave of local anti-incumbent sentiment and got elected mayor of his town at the tender age of 18. He got some more fame when he bankrupted his town and got impeached after a month. Needless to say, he doesn't like being reminded of it, which any citizen with a search engine is happy to do. It does however serve as his motivation for the job that brought him to Pawnee, which is as a state auditor who cuts budgets back down to size.
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* Ben Wyatt of ''ParksAndRecreation'' ''Series/ParksAndRecreation'' won a brief measure of nationwide fame when he rode a wave of local anti-incumbent sentiment and got elected mayor of his town at the tender age of 18. He got some more fame when he bankrupted his town and got impeached after a month. Needless to say, he doesn't like being reminded of it, which any citizen with a search engine is happy to do. It does however serve as his motivation for the job that brought him to Pawnee, which is as a state auditor who cuts budgets back down to size.
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