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10th Oct '17 10:28:56 AM buckyb
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[[caption-width-right:350: [[ChewBubblegum We're here to rock hard and chew bubble gum, and we're all out of gum.]][[note]]From left to right: James [=LaBrie=], John Myung, Mike Portnoy, Jordan Rudess, John Petrucci[[/note]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350: [[ChewBubblegum We're here to rock hard and chew bubble gum, and we're all out of gum.]][[note]]From left to right: Mike Mangini, John Myung, James [=LaBrie=], John Myung, Mike Portnoy, Jordan Rudess, John Petrucci[[/note]]]]
20th Sep '17 4:29:56 PM bt8257
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!! This band and its music provides examples of:

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* TheBandMinusTheFace: Mike Portnoy founded the band, alongside Petrucci and Myung, arranged much of the music and did the recording, production and most of the interviews - not to mention maintaining and curating a vast back-catalogue of bootlegs.

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* TheBandMinusTheFace: Mike Portnoy founded the band, alongside Petrucci and Myung, arranged much of the music and did the recording, production and most of the interviews - not to mention maintaining and curating a vast back-catalogue back-catalog of bootlegs.



** John Petrucci has admitted that "In the Presence of Enemies" is inspired by the Korean comic book ''Manhwa/Priest''.

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** John Petrucci has admitted that "In the Presence of Enemies" is inspired by the Korean comic book ''Manhwa/Priest''.''Manhwa/{{Priest}}''.



* LargeHam: The whole band, really, except Myung (whose performances still could be considered fairly hammy, but he himself is quite shy and reserved). It's part of the reason their music is such a LoveItOrHateIt affair. Amongst all of them, though, [=LaBrie=] is probably the hammiest. As for a musical example, the ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'' album treats us to thunder, dissonant piano, heavy guitars, choirs, and organs. Oh, and that's just in the first minute of over an hour of music.

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* LargeHam: The whole band, really, except Myung (whose performances still could be considered fairly hammy, but he himself is quite shy and reserved). It's part of the reason their music is such a LoveItOrHateIt affair. Amongst all of them, though, [=LaBrie=] is probably the hammiest. As for a musical example, the ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'' album treats us to thunder, dissonant piano, heavy guitars, choirs, and organs. Oh, and that's just in the first minute ''minute'' of over an hour of music.



** Jordan's response to Mike leaving the band is in the form of a nice, quiet [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgqm8g95wwI piano and vocal improv]]...until he pulls a "Her Majesty" type ScareChord in the last 10 seconds.

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** Jordan's response to Mike leaving the band is in the form of a nice, quiet [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgqm8g95wwI piano and vocal improv]]...until he pulls a "Her Majesty" type ScareChord in the last 10 seconds.



* LongRunnerLineup: Type two; the [=LaBrie=]/Myung/Petrucci/Portnoy/Rudess lineup lasted for a bit over eleven years.

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* LongRunnerLineup: LongRunnerLineUp: Type two; the [=LaBrie=]/Myung/Petrucci/Portnoy/Rudess lineup lasted for a bit just over eleven years.



** On the whole, it can be hard to classify their songs on this scale due to prevalence of EpicRocking in their work and their corresponding habit of having different sections of their songs fall all over the scale. For example, "Pull Me Under" has sections that get as heavy as 8 (the chorus sections and the coda, most notably) and others that drop down to 1 or 2 (the midsection, the intro). Overall, this songs still is around a 7, though. This is a common problem for ProgressiveMetal bands, not surprisingly.

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** On the whole, it can be hard to classify their songs on this scale due to prevalence of EpicRocking in their work and their corresponding habit of having different sections of their songs fall all over the scale. For example, "Pull Me Under" has sections that get as heavy as 8 (the chorus sections and the coda, most notably) and others that drop down to 1 or 2 (the midsection, the intro). Overall, this songs still is around a 7, though. This is a common problem for ProgressiveMetal bands, not surprisingly.
13th Sep '17 4:13:33 AM Lyendith
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[[caption-width-right:350: [[ChewBubblegum We're here to rock hard and chew bubble gum, and we're all out of gum.]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350: [[ChewBubblegum We're here to rock hard and chew bubble gum, and we're all out of gum.]]]]
]][[note]]From left to right: James [=LaBrie=], John Myung, Mike Portnoy, Jordan Rudess, John Petrucci[[/note]]]]
4th Sep '17 1:43:32 AM Edgecrusher666
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* James [=LaBrie=] - Vocals (1991-)
* Music/JordanRudess - Keyboards (1999-)
* John Petrucci - Guitar, backing vocals (1985-)
* John Myung - Bass (1985-)
* Mike Mangini - Drums (2010-)

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* James [=LaBrie=] - Vocals (1991-)
* Music/JordanRudess - Keyboards (1999-)
* John Petrucci - Guitar, guitars, backing vocals (1985-)
* John Myung - Bass bass (1985-)
* James [=LaBrie=] - lead vocals (1991-)
* Music/JordanRudess - keyboards (1999-)
* Mike Mangini - Drums drums (2010-)



* Mike Portnoy - Drums, backing vocals (1985-2010)
* Charlie Dominici - Vocals (1987-1989)
* Kevin Moore - Keyboards (1986-1994)
* Derek Sherinian - Keyboards (1995-1998)
* Chris Collins - Vocals (1986-1986)
* Steve Stone - Vocals (1990-1990)

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* Mike Portnoy - Drums, drums, backing vocals (1985-2010)
* Charlie Dominici - Vocals lead vocals (1987-1989)
* Kevin Moore - Keyboards keyboards (1986-1994)
* Derek Sherinian - Keyboards keyboards (1995-1998)
* Chris Collins - Vocals lead vocals (1986-1986)
* Steve Stone - Vocals lead vocals (1990-1990)
4th Sep '17 1:40:56 AM Edgecrusher666
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** TheLeader: Petrucci
** TheLancer: Myung
** TheHeart: James

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** TheLeader: Petrucci
Myung
** TheLancer: Myung
** TheHeart:
James



** TheBigGuy: Mike

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** TheBigGuy: Petrucci
** [[SixthRanger Fifth Ranger]]:
Mike
24th Aug '17 2:56:33 AM TheDeadSkin
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** There is a suspicious similarity between the story told in "In the Presence of Enemies" and the plot of the Korean comic ''Priest''... comparison of the ''Forsaken EP'' CD cover with one of the comic's volume covers might also help.
*** Not to mention the fact that John Petrucci outright admitted he was inspired by reading ''Priest''.

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** There is a suspicious similarity between the story told in John Petrucci has admitted that "In the Presence of Enemies" and the plot of is inspired by the Korean comic ''Priest''... comparison of the ''Forsaken EP'' CD cover with one of the comic's volume covers might also help.
*** Not to mention the fact that John Petrucci outright admitted he was inspired by reading ''Priest''.
book ''Manhwa/Priest''.
21st Jul '17 10:43:00 AM TheDeadSkin
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*** "Voices" has a fragment of [[CallBack "Just Let Me Breathe"]] that, in turn, quotes [[Franchise/StarWars the Force theme.]]

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*** "Voices" has a fragment of [[CallBack "Just Let Me Breathe"]] that, in turn, quotes opens with John Petrucci playing [[Franchise/StarWars the Force theme."Binary Sunset".]]



*** "In the Presence of Enemies" {{bookends}} ''Systematic Chaos'' in much the same way "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" bookends ''Music/WishYouWereHere'', and even uses wind to fade out/in, and opens its second segment with a bass line. The long instrumental opening to "Octavarium" also seems like a tribute to "Shine On", which opens much the same way.

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*** "In the Presence of Enemies" {{bookends}} ''Systematic Chaos'' in much the same way "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" bookends ''Music/WishYouWereHere'', fades in and even uses out with wind to fade out/in, sounds, and opens its second segment with a bass line. The long instrumental opening to "Octavarium" also seems like a tribute to "Shine On", which opens much the same way.
10th Jul '17 5:13:42 AM TheDeadSkin
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** In the ''Once in a [=LIVETime=]'' live album, there are plenty of these. "Trial of Tears", for example, has shoutouts to Film/CloseEncountersOfTheThirdKind, [[{{Rush}} "Xanadu", and "The Trees"]]; "Peruvian Skies" to [[Music/PinkFloyd "Have a Cigar"]] and [[Music/{{Metallica}} "Enter Sandman"]]; "Take the Time" to [[LynyrdSkynyrd "Free Bird"]] and [[Music/LedZeppelin "Moby Dick"]] and "Voices" has a fragment of "Just Let Me Breathe" containing a reference to [[StarWars the Force theme]].
** ''Live Scenes from New York'' has two shoutouts in "A Change of Seasons" to TheSimpsons and Major League Baseball themes.
** "The Spirit Carries On" from ''Scenes from a Memory'' sounds like it could have come straight from Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheWall''. The song was notably inspired by it and their album ''The Final Cut.''

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** In the ''Once in a [=LIVETime=]'' live album, there are [=LIVEtime=]'' has plenty of these. these:
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"Trial of Tears", for example, has shoutouts to Film/CloseEncountersOfTheThirdKind, [[{{Rush}} Tears" references, at various points, [[Music/{{Rush}} "Xanadu", and "The Trees"]]; Trees"]] and the jingle from ''Film/CloseEncountersOfTheThirdKind''.
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"Peruvian Skies" to references [[Music/PinkFloyd "Have a Cigar"]] and [[Music/{{Metallica}} "Enter Sandman"]]; Sandman"]].
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"Take the Time" to [[LynyrdSkynyrd has portions of [[Music/LynyrdSkynyrd "Free Bird"]] and [[Music/LedZeppelin "Moby Dick"]] and Dick"]].
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"Voices" has a fragment of [[CallBack "Just Let Me Breathe" containing a reference to [[StarWars Breathe"]] that, in turn, quotes [[Franchise/StarWars the Force theme]].
theme.]]
** In ''Live Scenes from New York'' has two shoutouts in York'', "A Change of Seasons" to TheSimpsons and has a bass solo with the Major League Baseball themes.
theme and a guitar break with the opening to ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''.
** "The Spirit Carries On" from ''Scenes from a Memory'' sounds like it could have come straight from out of Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheWall''. The ''Music/TheWall''; the song was notably inspired by it that and their album ''The Final Cut.''its follow-up ''Music/TheFinalCut''.
8th Jul '17 6:06:04 PM TheDeadSkin
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* ArcNumber[=/=]ArcWords: "Octavarium" uses the idea that "everything ends where it began" and uses the number 8 and the octave as examples. What's more is that it's the eighth track on their eighth album and it's length in minutes ([[EpicRocking twenty-four]]) is divisible by 8. Various other elements in the song also allude to cycles and/or the number 8.
** According to ex-drummer Portnoy, the album's concept stemmed from his realising that (a), it was to be their eighth studio release, and (b), they had just released their fifth live release (which was "Live At Budokan").

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* ArcNumber[=/=]ArcWords: "Octavarium" uses the idea that "everything [[WhereItAllBegan everything ends where it began" began]] and uses the number 8 and the octave as examples. What's more is that it's the eighth track on their eighth album and it's length in minutes ([[EpicRocking twenty-four]]) is divisible by 8. Various other elements in the song also allude to cycles and/or the number 8.
** According to ex-drummer Portnoy, the album's concept stemmed from his realising that (a), it ''Octavarium'' was to be their eighth studio release, and (b), they had just released their fifth live release (which was "Live At Budokan").(''Live at Budokan'').



** There are plenty of musical call backs to other songs in the Twelve Step Suite during "The Shattered Fortress" from 2009's 'Black Clouds and Silver Linings'. For example, 1:44 into the song, the melody from the intro to 'This Dying Soul'. At the 3-minute mark, there is another reprise of a riff from the same song. (Actually, every song in the suite contains at least one musical and/or lyrical reference to at least one previous song from the suite, but "The Shattered Fortress" has the most of these by far. The suite is also a direct sequel to "The Mirror" and several of its songs contain references to that song as well.)

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** There are plenty of musical call backs to other songs in the Twelve Step Suite during "The Shattered Fortress" from 2009's 'Black Clouds and Silver Linings'. For example, 1:44 into the song, the melody from the intro to 'This "This Dying Soul'.Soul". At the 3-minute mark, there is another reprise of a riff from the same song. (Actually, every song in the suite contains at least one musical and/or lyrical reference to at least one previous song from the suite, but "The Shattered Fortress" has the most of these by far. The suite is also a direct sequel to "The Mirror" and several of its songs contain references to that song as well.)



** ''Metropolis Pt.2'', which tells the story of a man reliving a past life through hypnosis. [[spoiler:Beware the DownerEnding]].

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** ''Metropolis Pt.2'', which tells the story of a man reliving a past life through hypnosis. [[spoiler:Beware the DownerEnding]].DownerEnding.]]



** "The Bigger Picture" from the ''Dream Theater'' album makes a reference to "The Ministry of Lost Souls", with the line 'And Iíll reach the waterís edge'.

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** "The Bigger Picture" from the ''Dream Theater'' album SelfTitledAlbum makes a reference to "The Ministry of Lost Souls", with the line 'And Iíll reach the waterís edge'.
30th Jun '17 7:31:01 AM TheDeadSkin
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** ''Awake'': from a line in ''Innocence Faded''.

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** ''Awake'': from a line in ''Innocence Faded''."Innocence Faded".



*** Also in a line in ''The Silent Man''.

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*** Also in a line in ''The "The Silent Man''.Man":



** ''Scenes from a Memory'': from "Scene Six: Home" (the phrase also appeared in Metropolis Part 1 on Images and Words).

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** ''Scenes from a Memory'': from "Scene Six: Home" (the phrase also appeared in Metropolis Part 1 on Images ([[CallBack and Words)."Metropolis Pt. 1"]], from ''Images and Words'').



** ''Systematic Chaos'': The second half of it anyway, from a line in "Dark Eternal Night"; though the title may reference a line from "Constant Motion".

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** ''Systematic Chaos'': The second half of it anyway, from a line in "Dark "The Dark Eternal Night"; though the title may reference a line from "Constant Motion".



*** Given as Train of Thought's title was a reference to the song "Stream of Consciousness", it very likely is the same there.

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*** Given as Train ''Train of Thought's Thought'''s title was a reference to the song "Stream of Consciousness", it very likely is the same there.
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