History Music / BlackSabbath

5th Jun '16 10:36:23 AM MikeK
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* SpringtimeForHitler: The album cover of ''Born Again'' was designed by Steve Joule, who deliberately tried to make it as distasteful as possible. He wanted to be rejected from the design commission, as he was also retained on a lucrative contract by Ozzy Osbourne's organisation for his sleeve designs. To Joule's horror and surprise, Iommi and Butler approved the image for the album. Ian Gillan, who sang on the album but didn't see the artwork until it was in stores, had more of the desired reaction: "I looked at the cover and puked."

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* SpringtimeForHitler: The album cover of ''Born Again'' was designed by Steve Joule, who deliberately tried to make it as distasteful as possible. He wanted to be rejected from the design commission, as he was also retained on a lucrative contract by Ozzy Osbourne's organisation for his sleeve designs.designs - He could have turned down the offer altogether, but this way he'd be able to collect a small rejection fee. To Joule's horror and surprise, Iommi and Butler approved the image for the album. Ian Gillan, who sang on the album but didn't see the artwork until it was in stores, had more of the desired reaction: "I looked at the cover and puked."
23rd May '16 11:00:37 AM bt8257
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* David Donato - lead vocals (1984-1985)

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* David Donato - lead vocals (1984-1985)(198485)



* [[Music/DeepPurple Ian Gillan]] - lead vocals (1982-1984)
* Ray Gillen - lead vocals (1986-1987, died 1993)
* Music/GlennHughes - lead vocals (1985-1986)
* '''''Tony Iommi''''' - guitar, vocals, flute, synthesizer, piano, mellotron, harpsichord, organ, bagpipes, harp (1968-2006, 2011)
* Tony Martin - lead vocals (19871991, 19931997)
* [[Music/{{KISS}} Eric Mensinger (Eric Singer)]] - drums (1985-1987)
* [[Music/{{Whitesnake}} Neil Murray]] - bass (19891991, 19941995)
* Geoff Nicholls - keyboard, bass, guitar (1986-1991, 1993-1996)
* '''''[[Music/OzzyOsbourne John "Ozzy" Osbourne]]''''' - lead vocals, harmonica, synthesizer (196877, 197879, 1997-2006, 2011)
* [[Music/RonnieJamesDio Ronald Pavadona (Ronnie James Dio)]] - lead vocals (197982, 199192, died 2010)

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* [[Music/DeepPurple Ian Gillan]] - lead vocals (1982-1984)
(198284)
* Ray Gillen - lead vocals (1986-1987, (198687, died 1993)
* Music/GlennHughes - lead vocals (1985-1986)
(198586)
* '''''Tony Iommi''''' - guitar, vocals, flute, synthesizer, piano, mellotron, harpsichord, organ, bagpipes, harp (1968-2006, (19682006, 2011)
* Tony Martin - lead vocals (19871991, 19931997)
(198791, 199397)
* [[Music/{{KISS}} Eric Mensinger (Eric Singer)]] Singer]] - drums (1985-1987)
(198587)
* [[Music/{{Whitesnake}} Neil Murray]] - bass (19891991, 19941995)
(198991, 199495)
* Geoff Nicholls - keyboard, bass, guitar (1986-1991, 1993-1996)
(198691, 199396)
* '''''[[Music/OzzyOsbourne John "Ozzy" Osbourne]]''''' - lead vocals, harmonica, synthesizer (196877, 197879, 1997-2006, 19972006, 2011)
* [[Music/RonnieJamesDio Ronald Pavadona (Ronnie James Dio)]] Music/RonnieJamesDio - lead vocals (197982, 199192, died 2010)



* '''Bill Ward''' - drums, percussion, backing and lead vocals, congas, timpani, piano (196880, 198283, 1985, 1994, 19972006, 2011-12)

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* '''Bill Ward''' - drums, percussion, backing and lead vocals, congas, timpani, piano (196880, 198283, 1985, 1994, 19972006, 2011-12)
201112)
23rd May '16 10:55:18 AM bt8257
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* Vinny Appice - drums, percussion (19801982, 19911993, 1998)
* [[Music/ElectricLightOrchestra Bev Bevan]] - drums, percussion, cymbals (1983-1984, 1987)

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* Vinny Appice - drums, percussion (19801982, 19911993, (198082, 199193, 1998)
* [[Music/ElectricLightOrchestra Bev Bevan]] - drums, percussion, cymbals (1983-1984, (198384, 1987)



* '''''Terrence "Geezer" Butler''''' - bass, vocals, mellotron, synthesizer, nose flute (1968-1985, 1990-1994, 1997-2006, 2011-Present)

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* '''''Terrence "Geezer" Butler''''' - bass, vocals, mellotron, synthesizer, nose flute (1968-1985, 1990-1994, 1997-2006, 2011-Present)(196885, 199094, 19972006, 2011)



* [[Music/{{Rainbow}} Colin Flooks (Cozy Powell)]] - drums, percussion (19881991, 19941995, died 1998)

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* [[Music/{{Rainbow}} Colin Flooks (Cozy Powell)]] - drums, percussion (19881991, 19941995, (198891, 199495, died 1998)



* '''''Tony Iommi''''' - guitar, vocals, flute, synthesizer, piano, mellotron, harpsichord, organ, bagpipes, harp (1968-2006, 2011-Present)

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* '''''Tony Iommi''''' - guitar, vocals, flute, synthesizer, piano, mellotron, harpsichord, organ, bagpipes, harp (1968-2006, 2011-Present)2011)



* '''''[[Music/OzzyOsbourne John "Ozzy" Osbourne]]''''' - lead vocals, harmonica, synthesizer (1968-1977, 1978-1979, 1997-2006, 2011-Present)
* [[Music/RonnieJamesDio Ronald Pavadona (Ronnie James Dio)]] - lead vocals (19791982, 19911992, died 2010)
* [[Music/BlueOysterCult Bobby Rondinelli]] - drums (1993-1994, 1995)
* Dave Spitz - bass (1985-1986, 1987)
* [[Music/FleetwoodMac Dave Walker]] - lead vocals (1977-1978)
* '''Bill Ward''' - drums, percussion, backing and lead vocals, congas, timpani, piano (19681980, 19821983, 1985, 1994, 19972006, 2011-2012)

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* '''''[[Music/OzzyOsbourne John "Ozzy" Osbourne]]''''' - lead vocals, harmonica, synthesizer (1968-1977, 1978-1979, (196877, 197879, 1997-2006, 2011-Present)
2011)
* [[Music/RonnieJamesDio Ronald Pavadona (Ronnie James Dio)]] - lead vocals (19791982, 19911992, (197982, 199192, died 2010)
* [[Music/BlueOysterCult Bobby Rondinelli]] - drums (1993-1994, (199394, 1995)
* Dave Spitz - bass (1985-1986, (198586, 1987)
* [[Music/FleetwoodMac Dave Walker]] - lead vocals (1977-1978)
(197778)
* '''Bill Ward''' - drums, percussion, backing and lead vocals, congas, timpani, piano (19681980, 19821983, (196880, 198283, 1985, 1994, 19972006, 2011-2012)
2011-12)



16th May '16 3:33:48 PM ThornBrain
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From 1982-1984, former Music/Deep Purple singer Ian Gillan joined the ''Black Sabbath'' for ''Born Again'' and a tour that most notably included the Deep Purple song "Smoke on the Water" as part of the encore, an unusual move for ''Black Sabbath.''

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From 1982-1984, former Music/Deep Purple Music/DeepPurple singer Ian Gillan joined the ''Black Sabbath'' for ''Born Again'' and a tour that most notably included the Deep Purple song "Smoke on the Water" as part of the encore, an unusual move for ''Black Sabbath.''
15th May '16 2:25:10 PM CassandraLeo
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In 1979, Ozzy Osbourne was fired from the band as his increasingly erratic behaviour rendered him generally unreliable. On the advice of the band's manager, Sharon Arden (who would later become Sharon Osbourne), the group recruited Music/RonnieJamesDio, formerly of HeavyMithril bands Music/{{Elf}} and Music/{{Rainbow}}, as their new lead singer. Dio's tenure lasted only three years, but he was generally regarded as a brilliant front-man in his own right, and his 1980 debut with the band: ''Heaven and Hell,'' is an all-time classic.

From 1982-1984, former ''Deep Purple'' singer Ian Gillan joined the ''Black Sabbath'' for ''Born Again'' and a tour that most notably included the ''Deep Purple'' song "Smoke on the Water" as part of the encore, an unusual move for ''Black Sabbath.''

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In 1979, Ozzy Osbourne was fired from the band as his increasingly erratic behaviour rendered him generally unreliable. On the advice of the band's manager, Sharon Arden (who would later become Sharon Osbourne), the group recruited Music/RonnieJamesDio, formerly of HeavyMithril bands Music/{{Elf}} and Music/{{Rainbow}}, as their new lead singer. Dio's tenure lasted only three years, but he was generally regarded as a brilliant front-man in his own right, and his 1980 debut with the band: band, ''Heaven and Hell,'' is an all-time classic.

From 1982-1984, former ''Deep Purple'' Music/Deep Purple singer Ian Gillan joined the ''Black Sabbath'' for ''Born Again'' and a tour that most notably included the ''Deep Purple'' Deep Purple song "Smoke on the Water" as part of the encore, an unusual move for ''Black Sabbath.''



* 1971 - ''Master Of Reality''

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* 1971 - ''Master Of of Reality''



* 1980 - ''Heaven And Hell''

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* 1980 - ''Heaven And and Hell''



* 1980 - ''Live At Last''

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* 1980 - ''Live At at Last''



* 2007 - ''Live At Hammersmith Odeon''
* 2013 - ''Live... Gathered In Their Masses''

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* 2007 - ''Live At at Hammersmith Odeon''
* 2013 - ''Live... Gathered In in Their Masses''



* LoudnessWar: ''13''. Given that it's a Music/RickRubin production, this was pretty much inevitable.



* NotChristianRock: "After Forever," according to the band, was actually a song addressed to people who didn't 'get' the fact that their occult content was just a marketing ploy, rather than a stealth parody of Christian music.

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* NotChristianRock: "After Forever," according to the band, was actually a song addressed to people who didn't 'get' the fact that their occult content was just a marketing ploy, rather than a stealth parody stealthParody of Christian music.music. PoesLaw applies. "Lord of This World" also qualifies.



* RhymingWithItself: The first verse of "War Pigs" (Needless to say, as it's Ozzy singing, they pull it off:)

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* RhymingWithItself: The first verse of "War Pigs" (Needless (needless to say, as it's Ozzy singing, they pull it off:)off):



** Though this is due to the song being re-written from its original Walpurgis, where the opening line was: "Witches gathered at black masses, bodies burning in red ashes."

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** Though this is due to the song being re-written from its original Walpurgis, "Walpurgis", where the opening line was: "Witches gathered at black masses, bodies burning in red ashes."



** Bill Ward suffered a perforated diverticulitis in September 2013 (causing him to lose a lot of weight and most of his muscle mass), but it hasn't stopped him from his various pursuits (ie his Rock 50 radio show, his art project "Absence Of Corners", and working on his third solo album).

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** Bill Ward suffered a perforated diverticulitis in September 2013 (causing him to lose a lot of weight and most of his muscle mass), but it hasn't stopped him from his various pursuits (ie his Rock 50 radio show, his art project "Absence Of of Corners", and working on his third solo album).



* RevolvingDoorBand: ''Black Sabbath'' have never recorded consecutive albums with the same line-up since Music/RonnieJamesDio left the band in 1982.
** Even more so than that. The two consecutive albums with Ronnie James Dio did not have the same line-up. First, Ozzy left after ''Never Say Die.'' Then, Bill Ward left before the tour for ''Heaven and Hell.'' Then, after ''The Mob Rules,'' both Ronnie James Dio and Vinny Appice left to form the band ''Dio.''

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* RevolvingDoorBand: ''Black Sabbath'' Black Sabbath have never recorded consecutive albums with the same line-up since Music/RonnieJamesDio left the band in 1982.
** Even more so than that. The two consecutive albums with Ronnie James Dio did not have the same line-up. First, Ozzy left after ''Never Say Die.'' Then, Bill Ward left before the tour for ''Heaven and Hell.'' Then, after ''The Mob ''Mob Rules,'' both Ronnie James Dio and Vinny Appice left to form the band ''Dio.''Dio.



* SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll: The guys in ''Black Sabbath'' did a ''lot'' of drugs back in the 1970's. Ozzy even claims that during the peak of ''Black Sabbath'''s popularity, him and Tony would do acid ''every day for a year'' just to see what would happen.

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* SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll: The guys in ''Black Sabbath'' did a ''lot'' of drugs back in the 1970's. Ozzy even claims that during the peak of ''Black Sabbath'''s Black Sabbath's popularity, him and Tony would do acid ''every day for a year'' just to see what would happen.



* UrExample: Although bands like Music/LedZeppelin, Music/DeepPurple, and Music/BlueCheer paved the way, many people consider ''Black Sabbath'' to be the world's first true HeavyMetal band.

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* UrExample: UrExample or TropeMaker: Although bands like Music/LedZeppelin, Music/DeepPurple, and Music/BlueCheer paved the way, many people consider ''Black Sabbath'' Black Sabbath to be the world's first true HeavyMetal band.band. They are also considered the UrExample for DoomMetal, which basically takes the characteristics of Sabbath's music (slow, heavy, sludgy riffs) and turns them UpToEleven.
2nd May '16 10:40:32 AM aye_amber
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** He's only stoic most of the time. Every now and then, he makes what musicians call guitar faces and what normal people call [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgv3dnMHQd0#t=262s jizz in my pants faces.]]

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** He's only stoic most of the time. Every now and then, he makes what musicians call guitar faces and what normal people call [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgv3dnMHQd0#t=262s jizz in my pants faces.]]
2nd May '16 10:39:38 AM aye_amber
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Existed since 1968. Since then, they've gone through a veritable menagerie of singers, bassists, and drummers, not counting touring members. Tony Iommi is the only constant member. They've gone through so many members, they have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Black_Sabbath_members their own ''Wikipedia'' page dedicated to chronicling their gazillion and a half band members.]]

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Existed since 1968. Since then, they've gone through a veritable menagerie of singers, bassists, and drummers, not counting touring members. Tony Iommi is the only constant member. They've gone through so many members, they have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Black_Sabbath_members their own ''Wikipedia'' Wikipedia page dedicated to chronicling their gazillion and a half band members.]]
2nd May '16 10:39:20 AM aye_amber
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Existed since 1968. Since then, they've gone through a veritable menagerie of singers, bassists, and drummers, not counting touring members. Tony Iommi is the only constant member. They've gone through so many members, they have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Black_Sabbath_band_members their own ''Wikipedia'' page dedicated to chronicling their gazillion and a half band members.]]

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Existed since 1968. Since then, they've gone through a veritable menagerie of singers, bassists, and drummers, not counting touring members. Tony Iommi is the only constant member. They've gone through so many members, they have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Black_Sabbath_band_members org/wiki/List_of_Black_Sabbath_members their own ''Wikipedia'' page dedicated to chronicling their gazillion and a half band members.]]
2nd May '16 10:38:33 AM aye_amber
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** Not so much with Bill and Ozzy anymore. In a [[http://dcheavymetal.com/2014/04/18/Interview-With-Bill-Ward-Of-Black-Sabbath/ recent interview,]] Bill reveals that he [[http://loudwire.com/black-sabbath-bill-ward-lost-a-friend-ozzy-osbourne/ didn't take kindly at all to Ozzy's comments]] that Bill was out of shape and couldn't cut it anymore (in regards to why Bill was offered that "unsignable" contract). He does however still keep in touch with Tony and Geezer, albeit behind the scenes. He's also open to rejoining the band someday, provided the contractual dispute is resolved (and once he fully recovers from a perforated diverticulitis he suffered in September 2013).

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** Not so much with Bill and Ozzy anymore. In a [[http://dcheavymetal.[[https://dcheavymetal.com/2014/04/18/Interview-With-Bill-Ward-Of-Black-Sabbath/ recent interview,]] Bill reveals that he [[http://loudwire.com/black-sabbath-bill-ward-lost-a-friend-ozzy-osbourne/ didn't take kindly at all to Ozzy's comments]] that Bill was out of shape and couldn't cut it anymore (in regards to why Bill was offered that "unsignable" contract). He does however still keep in touch with Tony and Geezer, albeit behind the scenes. He's also open to rejoining the band someday, provided the contractual dispute is resolved (and once he fully recovers from a perforated diverticulitis he suffered in September 2013).
2nd May '16 10:37:58 AM aye_amber
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* {{Determinator}}: Tony Iommi. First he loses 2 fingertips on his fretting hand- no big deal, melt down soap bottles to make fake ones and tune your guitar down half a step[[note]]For those of you who aren't music-savvy, musical notes are assigned letters from A - G with sharps (#) or flats (b) assigned to notes halfway between the "standard" notes with the exceptions of B and E (so A, B, and C would be going up full steps, while A, A#, B, C, C# would be counting the half-steps). If a note passes G# or A, it cycles forward to an A or back to a G# respectively, albeit one octave higher/lower...anyway, guitars are normally tuned from the thickest to thinnest strings to the notes of E-A-D-G-B-E, so the half-step down would be tuned to D#-G#-C#-F#-A#-D#, which has less tension to work with, making fretting/bending the strings easier for someone with less strength in those fingers while unintentionally making the music sound "darker" due to the lower notes. And now you know.[[/note]] (and create music history in the process). Then some 50 years later he gets lymphoma. No big deal, go back to England to continue treatment, ship your bandmates out there with you so you can still work on the album, ''and still plan to tour that summer''. BadAss incarnate right there.

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* {{Determinator}}: Tony Iommi. First he loses 2 fingertips on his fretting hand- no big deal, melt down soap bottles to make fake ones and tune your guitar down half a step[[note]]For those of you who aren't music-savvy, musical notes are assigned letters from A - G with sharps (#) or flats (b) assigned to notes halfway between the "standard" notes with the exceptions of B and E (so A, B, and C would be going up full steps, while A, A#, B, C, C# would be counting the half-steps). If a note passes G# or A, it cycles forward to an A or back to a G# respectively, albeit one octave higher/lower...anyway, guitars are normally tuned from the thickest to thinnest strings to the notes of E-A-D-G-B-E, so the half-step down would be tuned to D#-G#-C#-F#-A#-D#, which has less tension to work with, making fretting/bending the strings easier for someone with less strength in those fingers while unintentionally making the music sound "darker" due to the lower notes. And now you know.[[/note]] (and create music history in the process). Then some 50 years later he gets lymphoma. No big deal, go back to England to continue treatment, ship your bandmates out there with you so you can still work on the album, ''and still plan to tour that summer''. BadAss {{Badass}} incarnate right there.
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