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%% * GettingCrapPastThe Radar: Due to overwhelming and persistent misuse, GCPTR is on-page examples only until 01 June 2021. If you are reading this in the future, please check the trope page to make sure your example fits the current definition.
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** At the end of an interview, Alex pretended that the camera was a lion and then started trying to push it back with his stool. He also tried to [[WhipItGood whip the camera]].

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** At the end of an interview, Alex pretended that the camera was a lion and then started trying to push it back with his stool. He also tried to [[WhipItGood [[Camera Abuse whip the camera]].

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* SelfDeprecation: [[Music/FallOutBoy Pete Wentz]] and [[Music/Blink182 Mark Hoppus]] cameo in the "Weightless" video poking fun at the influence Fall Out Boy had on them, and the influence Blink had on ''both'' bands.

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[[Music/FallOutBoy Pete Wentz]] and [[Music/Blink182 Mark Hoppus]] cameo in the "Weightless" video poking fun at the influence Fall Out Boy had on them, and the influence Blink had on ''both'' bands.



* SpiritualSuccessor:
** To Music/Blink182 in both sound and attitude, although their sound is maturing at a faster rate than Blink did. All Time Low never had the same amount of obvious joke songs that Blink did, which made 'I Feel Like Dancin'' not as obviously kidding as the band thought it was, a contentious song for the reasons below. Considering it was co-written with Rivers Cuomo during Music/Weezer's AudienceAlienatingEra, and the [[OverlyLongGag jokes feel rather forced,]] that's not too surprising.
** Also to Music/GreenDay, as their sound has largely remained consistent on most of their albums and the fact that a lot of their catalogue is actually good to listen to, and Music/FallOutBoy as a lot of their music is based in a mix of high energy Pop Punk and Emo Pop, at least the version of Fall Out Boy from ''before'' their hiatus.
** Also, you could probably make a playlist of pre-2017 All Time Low after Music/{{Busted}}'s first 2 albums and, minus noticing a different singer, you probably wouldn't notice much different because they're so similar in how they wrote songs.
* {{StealthParody}}/{{ParodyRetcon}}: 'I Feel Like Dancin'.' Made less stealthy by the music video.

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* SpiritualSuccessor:
** To Music/Blink182 in both sound and attitude, although their sound is maturing at a faster rate than Blink did. All Time Low never had the same amount of obvious joke songs that Blink did, which made 'I Feel Like Dancin'' not as obviously kidding as the band thought it was, a contentious song for the reasons below. Considering it was co-written with Rivers Cuomo during Music/Weezer's AudienceAlienatingEra, and the [[OverlyLongGag jokes feel rather forced,]] that's not too surprising.
** Also to Music/GreenDay, as their sound has largely remained consistent on most of their albums and the fact that a lot of their catalogue is actually good to listen to, and Music/FallOutBoy as a lot of their music is based in a mix of high energy Pop Punk and Emo Pop, at least the version of Fall Out Boy from ''before'' their hiatus.
** Also, you could probably make a playlist of pre-2017 All Time Low after Music/{{Busted}}'s first 2 albums and, minus noticing a different singer, you probably wouldn't notice much different because they're so similar in how they wrote songs.
* {{StealthParody}}/{{ParodyRetcon}}:
{{StealthParody}}: 'I Feel Like Dancin'.' Made less stealthy by the music video.



** The video for 'Weightless' is basically a prolonged list of [[TakeThat shots]] towards (and not limited to) groupies, FanDumb, HateDumb, roadies, and [[SelfDeprecation themselves]].

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** The video for 'Weightless' is basically a prolonged list of [[TakeThat shots]] shots towards (and not limited to) groupies, FanDumb, HateDumb, roadies, and [[SelfDeprecation themselves]].



* TransAtlanticEquivalent: Can be seen as one to either Music/McFly or Music/{{Busted}}, as they produce a lot of the same kinds of songs in the same genres. Interestingly, each band has both lovers and haters of their later synthpop-influenced albums. Taken to its logical extreme when Alex co-wrote [=McBusted=]'s (a supergroup of most of the members from Busted teaming up with [=McFly=]) song 'Get Over It' for their album. Dougie Poynter ([=McFly's=] bassist) even noted how they write in a similar style; starting with nothing, but then thinking of how a song should sound along the way rather than going in with a beat in mind.

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* ''It's Still Nothing Personal - A Ten Year Tribute'' (2019)



* AlbumFiller: Some people have cited some songs on ''Dirty Work'' and ''Future Hearts'' as this and a majority of ''Last Young Renegade'' this. Averted on pretty much every other album.

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* AlbumFiller: Some people have cited some songs on ''Dirty Work'' and ''Future Hearts'' as this Hearts'', and a the majority of ''Last Young Renegade'' as this. Averted on pretty much every other album.



* CanonDiscontinuity: Apparently, the band doesn't look back on their first EP or album too fondly, outside of maybe the songs they rerecorded for their second EP, and count ''So. Wrong, It's Right'' as their actual first album. This is bolstered by the fact that they haven't played any songs from them in years and didn't celebrate ''The Party Scene's'' 10th anniversary in 2015, as well as the fact that it's not available to officially buy anywhere and how they've not spoken positively about it after they signed to Hopeless in 2006 and produced more music.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: Apparently, the band doesn't look back on their first EP or album too fondly, outside of maybe the songs they rerecorded for their second EP, and count ''So. ''So Wrong, It's Right'' as their actual first album. This is bolstered by the fact that they haven't played any songs from them in years and didn't celebrate ''The Party Scene's'' 10th anniversary in 2015, as well as the fact that it's not available to officially buy anywhere and how they've not spoken positively about it after they signed to Hopeless in 2006 and produced more music.


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* RearrangeTheSong: ''It's Still Nothing Personal - A Ten Year Tribute'' is a rearrangement of the entire ''Nothing Personal'' album.

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* AlbumFiller: Some people have sighted some songs on ''Dirty Work'' and ''Future Hearts'' as this and a majority of ''Last Young Renegade'' this. Averted on pretty much every other album.

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* AlbumFiller: Some people have sighted cited some songs on ''Dirty Work'' and ''Future Hearts'' as this and a majority of ''Last Young Renegade'' this. Averted on pretty much every other album.



* CantTakeCriticism: If you ever try to discuss the shortcomings of some of their work with Alex, beware that he can come off as this. Admittedly, he ''does'' try to keep things pretty positive, but even the most [[ConstructiveCriticism constructive of criticisms]] you may have can be taken by him to mean that you're saying everyone should think the way you do, or that your opinion is law, even when you haven't said anything of the sort, or you say the opposite. Remember, you learn more from criticism than you do praise, Alex. It's certainly weird because they've made songs that are filled with criticisms of others, so he comes off as a bit of a hypocrite.
** Also, their fans. Or at least the ones you can run into on places like Website/YouTube comment sections, or social media. Being made up of a hefty VocalMinority of teenage fangirls, this is a given.



** However, this is definitely a ''very'' loose case of this, as the concept of the songs being from the many different points of view he's had is a bit lost when looking at the songs themselves and how the lyrics are written. There's not really a central idea or message that the album is trying to convey and a lot of the songs sound disconnected from one another. Compare it to Green Day's Rock Opera ''Music/AmericanIdiot'', which is also a concept album, but has a centralized story and some messages that the songs convey throughout the album and actually make a mostly cohesive whole and an enjoyable experience the whole way through.



* EpicFail: Just watch [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9hLVAo5eU4 this video]]. First Alex says he doesn't partially remember how 'Let It Roll' goes, then he doesn't remember, ''at all,'' how 'The Beach' goes in the lyrical department or the guitar part. ''Then,'' when he finally does, he immediately stops the band playing because he doesn't remember that the first verse was very short and it goes right into the first chorus of the song when the crowd sings it right, claiming that they didn't know the song either, yet they ''did.'' Give your crowds of teenage girls some credit, Alex!



* LemonFic: Several notorious (and ''extremely'' sexually explicit) fanfics have been written about the band's members by fans. Perhaps most notorious are the so-called "carrot fic", "the knife fic" and "the milk fic". Needless to say, not safe for work and if you're of a more sensitive disposition, [[{{Squick}} not safe for life]]. There are also waaaay more "vanilla" fics that don't draw nearly as much attention as those three.
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* {{Bowdlerize}}: Arguably for their cover of 'Longview' by Music/GreenDay. The main verses are handled well, but when they get to the choruses, they for some reason slow it down in the instrumentation and cut out the guitar to a degree. The song's a Punk song about boredom and masturbation, yet they tried to turn it into a sing-along ballad. No, just no. This is also a band who usually does covers well too.
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* ''Tell Me I'm Alive'' (2023)
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** 'Keep The Change, You Filthy Animal' off their third album ''Nothing Personal'' is also a quote from Jack's favorite film ''Film/HomeAlone.''

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** 'Keep The Change, You Filthy Animal' off their third album ''Nothing Personal'' is also a quote from Jack's favorite film ''Film/HomeAlone.''Film/HomeAlone1.''
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** To Music/Blink182 in both sound and attitude, although their sound is maturing at a faster rate than Blink did. All Time Low never had the same amount of obvious joke songs that Blink did, which made 'I Feel Like Dancin'' not as obviously kidding as the band thought it was, a contentious song for the reasons below. Considering it was co-written with Rivers Cuomo during Music/Weezer's DorkAge, and the [[OverlyLongGag jokes feel rather forced,]] that's not too surprising.

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** To Music/Blink182 in both sound and attitude, although their sound is maturing at a faster rate than Blink did. All Time Low never had the same amount of obvious joke songs that Blink did, which made 'I Feel Like Dancin'' not as obviously kidding as the band thought it was, a contentious song for the reasons below. Considering it was co-written with Rivers Cuomo during Music/Weezer's DorkAge, AudienceAlienatingEra, and the [[OverlyLongGag jokes feel rather forced,]] that's not too surprising.
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* LaserGuidedAmnesia: Remember how they didn't like how ''Dirty Work'' came out? How they realized too many people behind the production of an album on a label that only really cares about the money than the bands signed to it could lead to a bad album and that having a ton of co-writers and producers was a bad thing for them? Many fans felt they repeated themselves when they signed to Creator/FueledByRamen.

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* NewSoundAlbum: ''Dirty Work''. Although ''Don't Panic'' reverses the change somewhat.

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''Dirty Work''. Although ''Don't Panic'' reverses the change somewhat.



* PrecisionFStrike: From 'Weightless':
--> ''And I'm stuck in this fucking rut''
--> ''Waitin' on a second-hand pick-me-up''

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From 'Weightless':
--> ---> ''And I'm stuck in this fucking rut''
--> ---> ''Waitin' on a second-hand pick-me-up''



--> ''Maybe I'm a fucking waste''
--> ''Filling up the empty space''

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--> ---> ''Maybe I'm a fucking waste''
--> ---> ''Filling up the empty space''



--> ''You said it's all for a reason''
--> ''Well, what the fuck is the reason now?''

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--> ---> ''You said it's all for a reason''
--> ---> ''Well, what the fuck is the reason now?''



* RevisitingTheRoots: ''Future Hearts'' has the feel that it was, majorly, an attempt to go back to their 2005-2009 sound, as well as transform their sound into a more straight-forward Pop Punk/Power Pop sound after 3 albums of being a more Emo-influenced act. It was also just as straight-forward as those albums, rather than trying to be as experimental as ''Dirty Work'' was.

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* RevisitingTheRoots: RevisitingTheRoots:
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''Future Hearts'' has the feel that it was, majorly, an attempt to go back to their 2005-2009 sound, as well as transform their sound into a more straight-forward Pop Punk/Power Pop sound after 3 albums of being a more Emo-influenced act. It was also just as straight-forward as those albums, rather than trying to be as experimental as ''Dirty Work'' was.



* ShoutOut: 'Keep The Change, You Filthy Animal' off their third album ''Nothing Personal'' is also a quote from Jack's favorite film ''Film/HomeAlone.''

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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut:
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'Keep The Change, You Filthy Animal' off their third album ''Nothing Personal'' is also a quote from Jack's favorite film ''Film/HomeAlone.''



* SpiritualSuccessor: To Music/Blink182 in both sound and attitude, although their sound is maturing at a faster rate than Blink did. All Time Low never had the same amount of obvious joke songs that Blink did, which made 'I Feel Like Dancin'' not as obviously kidding as the band thought it was, a contentious song for the reasons below. Considering it was co-written with Rivers Cuomo during Music/Weezer's DorkAge, and the [[OverlyLongGag jokes feel rather forced,]] that's not too surprising.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: SpiritualSuccessor:
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To Music/Blink182 in both sound and attitude, although their sound is maturing at a faster rate than Blink did. All Time Low never had the same amount of obvious joke songs that Blink did, which made 'I Feel Like Dancin'' not as obviously kidding as the band thought it was, a contentious song for the reasons below. Considering it was co-written with Rivers Cuomo during Music/Weezer's DorkAge, and the [[OverlyLongGag jokes feel rather forced,]] that's not too surprising.
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* SomethingCompletelyDifferent: 'Sticks, Stones, And Techno,' their only techno song off their first album.
** 'Too Much' off of ''Nothing Personal.'' When played live, only Alex is present onstage alongside the synth in the background.
** 'The Edge of Tonight' is a slow, lethargic, more electronic-leaning song on ''Future Hearts''.
** The video for 'Time-Bomb' is their self-admitted first "serious" music video.
** All of the music videos for ''Last Young Renegade'' are a LOT more serious than the majority of the ones before, as are the songs in general. Perhaps ''too'' serious, as this page will tell you, since they usually kept things pretty light before that album.
** The vast majority of ''Last Young Renegade'' could be argued when talking about their discography as a whole, as it's very different from everything before and, seemingly, everything after so far.
** 'Monsters' is a Rock/Rap hybrid song featuring rapper Music/{{Blackbear}}.

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* LoveNostalgiaSong: "Circles".
* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: They are typically a 3 to 4, with their hardest songs reaching a 5.

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** The video for 'Time-Bomb' is their self-admitted first "serious" music video.
** All of the music videos for ''Last Young Renegade'' are a LOT more serious than the majority of the ones before, as are the songs in general. Perhaps ''too'' serious, as this page will tell you, since they usually kept things pretty light before that album.



** The video for 'Time-Bomb' is their self-admitted first "serious" music video.
** All of the music videos for ''Last Young Renegade'' are a LOT more serious than the majority of the ones before, as are the songs in general. Perhaps ''too'' serious, as this page will tell you, since they usually kept things pretty light before that album.
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* PutOnABus: Many songs from their first 3 albums and first 2 EPs haven't been played live in years for some reason outside of maybe the occasional one-off, despite many of them still being rather popular with their fans, particularly from their first album and first Hopeless EP. They usually just play either the hits or singles when on tour, which leaves a lot of lost potential in having live versions of those songs with Alex's voice as it is now versus how it was back then. It's being a bit subverted in that they're going to play ''So Wrong, It's Right'' in full live for its 10th anniversary in December 2017, but that's only for 3 stops on their tour, though they ''have'' been dusting the majority of those songs off for live performances on their Young Renegades tour, but it's far from playing them semi-regularly at the very least.

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* PutOnABus: Many songs from their first 3 albums and first 2 EPs [=EPs=] haven't been played live in years for some reason outside of maybe the occasional one-off, despite many of them still being rather popular with their fans, particularly from their first album and first Hopeless EP. They usually just play either the hits or singles when on tour, which leaves a lot of lost potential in having live versions of those songs with Alex's voice as it is now versus how it was back then. It's being a bit subverted in that they're going to play ''So Wrong, It's Right'' in full live for its 10th anniversary in December 2017, but that's only for 3 stops on their tour, though they ''have'' been dusting the majority of those songs off for live performances on their Young Renegades tour, but it's far from playing them semi-regularly at the very least.

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* LaserGuidedAmnesia: Remember how they didn't like how ''Dirty Work'' came out? How they realized too many people behind the production of an album on a label that only really cares about the money than the bands signed to it could lead to a bad album and that having a ton of co-writers an producers was a bad thing for them? Many fans felt they repeated themselves when they signed to Creator/FueledByRamen.

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* LaserGuidedAmnesia: Remember how they didn't like how ''Dirty Work'' came out? How they realized too many people behind the production of an album on a label that only really cares about the money than the bands signed to it could lead to a bad album and that having a ton of co-writers an and producers was a bad thing for them? Many fans felt they repeated themselves when they signed to Creator/FueledByRamen.



* MoodWhiplash: While ''Future Hearts'' may have a few of these, ''Last Young Renegade'' has a more obvious one, with 'Nice2KnoU,' a song about leaving the past in the past and moving forward coming immediately after 'Good Times,' a song about feeling nostalgic. It's also the only song that's consistent with any of their pre-''Future Hearts'' albums, as it's the only actual Rock song on ''LYR,'' not only making it feel out of place in its sorting on the album tracklist, but also the album as a whole, since ''LYR'' is composed almost exclusively of 80s-influenced, synth-infused, slow, kind of lethargic, Pop music without as much energy. It almost comes off as them throwing the fans that they knew wouldn't like ''LYR'' as a whole a bone, as it's the most stripped-back, straight-forward, energetic song on the album.

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* MoodWhiplash: While ''Future Hearts'' may have a few of these, ''Last Young Renegade'' has a more obvious one, with 'Nice2KnoU,' '[=Nice2KnoU=],' a song about leaving the past in the past and moving forward coming immediately after 'Good Times,' a song about feeling nostalgic. It's also the only song that's consistent with any of their pre-''Future Hearts'' albums, as it's the only actual Rock song on ''LYR,'' not only making it feel out of place in its sorting on the album tracklist, but also the album as a whole, since ''LYR'' is composed almost exclusively of 80s-influenced, synth-infused, slow, kind of lethargic, Pop music without as much energy. It almost comes off as them throwing the fans that they knew wouldn't like ''LYR'' as a whole a bone, as it's the most stripped-back, straight-forward, energetic song on the album.


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** 'The Edge of Tonight' is a slow, lethargic, more electronic-leaning song on ''Future Hearts''.
** The vast majority of ''Last Young Renegade'' could be argued when talking about their discography as a whole, as it's very different from everything before and, seemingly, everything after so far.
** 'Monsters' is a Rock/Rap hybrid song featuring rapper Music/{{Blackbear}}.

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All Time Low is a PopPunk band band hailing from Baltimore, Maryland, formed in 2003 with four members; Alexander (Alex) Gaskarth (rhythm guitarist, vocals,) Jack Barakat (lead guitar, backing vocals,) Rian Dawson (drums,) and Zachary (Zack) Merrick (bassist, back vocals.) They're most known for their singles "Weightless," "Damned If I Do 'Ya," and "[[GettingCrapPastTheRadar Dear Maria, Count Me In]]," and have released 7 full-length albums, 5 [=EPs=], & 2 live albums at current, as well as 2 DVD documentaries filmed on tours.

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All Time Low is a PopPunk band band hailing from Baltimore, Maryland, formed in 2003 with four members; Alexander (Alex) Gaskarth (rhythm guitarist, vocals,) Jack Barakat (lead guitar, backing vocals,) Rian Dawson (drums,) and Zachary (Zack) Merrick (bassist, back vocals.) They're most known for their singles "Weightless," "Damned If I Do 'Ya," and "[[GettingCrapPastTheRadar Dear "Dear Maria, Count Me In]]," In," and have released 7 full-length albums, 5 [=EPs=], & 2 live albums at current, as well as 2 DVD documentaries filmed on tours.



* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: 'Stella' is the most love song-y song [[spoiler:that you will ever hear about beer.]]
** The aforementioned 'Dear Maria, Count Me In' [[spoiler:isn't a cute love song to a girl. It's about a stripper in the boys' hometown; you'd never know without watching the video, either.]]
** "Coffee Shop Soundtrack" is about an affair Alex had with a married woman.
** "Damned If I Do Ya, Damned If I Don't" also refers to the same affair.

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%% * GettingCrapPastTheRadar: 'Stella' GettingCrapPastThe Radar: Due to overwhelming and persistent misuse, GCPTR is the most love song-y song [[spoiler:that on-page examples only until 01 June 2021. If you will ever hear about beer.]]
** The aforementioned 'Dear Maria, Count Me In' [[spoiler:isn't a cute love song to a girl. It's about a stripper
are reading this in the boys' hometown; you'd never know without watching future, please check the video, either.]]
** "Coffee Shop Soundtrack" is about an affair Alex had with a married woman.
** "Damned If I Do Ya, Damned If I Don't" also refers
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** ''Wake Up Sunshine'' has a song called 'Wake Up Sunshine' which includes the lyric: 'Wake up, sunshine, somebody loves you for yourself'

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** ''Wake Up Up, Sunshine'' has a song called 'Wake Up Up, Sunshine' which includes the lyric: 'Wake up, sunshine, somebody loves you for yourself'

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