History MoralEventHorizon / Music

1st Jan '16 4:09:26 AM Morgenthaler
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* "Dance with the Devil" by rapper ImmortalTechnique. It tells the story of a fatherless teenage boy in the projects seduced by greed into a life of crime. The climax is his gang initiation, in which he has to "rape a bitch to prove he was real." [[spoiler: Except he ended up [[ParentalIncest raping his own mother]]. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone He was horrified by what he's done]] and killed himself. He's said to have "died [[TheSoulless with no soul."]]]]

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* "Dance with the Devil" by rapper ImmortalTechnique.Music/ImmortalTechnique. It tells the story of a fatherless teenage boy in the projects seduced by greed into a life of crime. The climax is his gang initiation, in which he has to "rape a bitch to prove he was real." [[spoiler: Except he ended up [[ParentalIncest raping his own mother]]. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone He was horrified by what he's done]] and killed himself. He's said to have "died [[TheSoulless with no soul."]]]]
15th Jun '15 1:47:20 PM Cherryjuice
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* [[Music/{{Gorillaz}} Murdoc]] finally crossed it when he kidnapped and imprisoned 2D. It wouldn't be quite so bad if not for all the [[FridgeHorror horrific undertones]] of the drugging, incarceration and physical abuse. Granted, 2D was never the bravest or keenest individual, but he was always pretty harmless. Murdoc's brutality and the constant isolation have all but [[BreakTheCutie broken]] the singer, and it's around that point that Murdoc bridged the MoralEventHorizon.
24th Jan '15 10:05:03 AM gwarnage
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* GWAR (and sometimes their enemies) do this ALL the time.
28th Nov '14 3:32:49 AM StFan
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* As for gangsta rappers UpToEleven such as Music/{{Eazy-E}}, Music/TheNotoriousBIG, Music/GetoBoys, Music/{{Gravediggaz}} or Music/{{Esham}}, this is practically a recurring theme for almost any song of theirs.

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* As for gangsta rappers UpToEleven such as Music/{{Eazy-E}}, Music/EazyE, Music/TheNotoriousBIG, Music/GetoBoys, Music/{{Gravediggaz}} or Music/{{Esham}}, this is practically a recurring theme for almost any song of theirs.
5th Apr '14 6:27:45 PM FirebirdMaximus
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* The Billy Bragg song ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojPTz4VAOMA Never Cross a Picket Line]]'' argues that...well, [[CaptainObvious crossing picket lines]] is a moral event horizon. It was written to support the three-year long, and ultimately successful Liverpool Dockers' Strike of 1995-8.
-->''Two years gone by but still they never,''
-->''Ever cross a picket line.''
-->''With their wives and children they stand together.''
-->''Never cross a picket line!''
-->''You must never cross a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picketing_(protest) picket line]]!''



* The Billy Bragg song ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojPTz4VAOMA Never Cross a Picket Line]]'' argues that...well, [[CaptainObvious crossing picket lines]] is a moral event horizon. It was written to support the three-year long, and ultimately successful Liverpool Dockers' Strike of 1995-8.
-->''Two years gone by but still they never,''
-->''Ever cross a picket line.''
-->''With their wives and children they stand together.''
-->''Never cross a picket line!''
-->''You must never cross a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picketing_(protest) picket line]]!''
24th Dec '13 8:10:08 AM LongLiveHumour
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* In The Rake's Song by TheDecemberists, the titular character sings of how he married young and left his licentious life behind, only to come to regret it round about the time his wife had their first child. When she dies in childbirth and he gets stuck with the remaining kids, he decides that getting his old life back is a simple matter of OffingTheOffspring. He happily explains how he did his three children in, and then gloats that the listener would expect him to be haunted with guilt from these acts, but really [[KarmaHoudini he's not that bothered]]. In the proceeding songs, he [[spoiler:kidnaps and rapes Margaret]], with the help of the Forest Queen. He gets his comeuppance in the end [[UndeadChild though]].

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* In The Rake's Song by TheDecemberists, Music/TheDecemberists, the titular character sings of how he married young and left his licentious life behind, only to come to regret it round about the time his wife had their first child. When she dies in childbirth and he gets stuck with the remaining kids, he decides that getting his old life back is a simple matter of OffingTheOffspring. He happily explains how he did his three children in, and then gloats that the listener would expect him to be haunted with guilt from these acts, but really [[KarmaHoudini he's not that bothered]]. In the proceeding songs, he [[spoiler:kidnaps and rapes Margaret]], with the help of the Forest Queen. He gets his comeuppance in the end [[UndeadChild though]].
13th Dec '13 12:37:30 PM FirebirdMaximus
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* The Billy Bragg song ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojPTz4VAOMA Never Cross a Picket Line]]'' argues that...well, [[CaptainObvious crossing picket lines]] is a moral event horizon. It was written to support the three-year long, and ultimately successful Liverpool Dockers' Strike of 1995-8.
-->''Two years gone by but still they never,''
-->''Ever cross a picket line.''
-->''With their wives and children they stand together.''
-->''Never cross a picket line!''
-->''You must never cross a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picketing_(protest) picket line]]!''

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* The Billy Bragg song ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojPTz4VAOMA Never Cross a Picket Line]]'' argues that...well, [[CaptainObvious crossing picket lines]] is a moral event horizon. It was written to support [[CoheedandCambria Amory Wars']] BigBad, Wilhelm Ryan, and [[TheDragon Dragon]], Mayo Deftinwolf, crossed this right off the three-year long, and ultimately successful Liverpool Dockers' Strike of 1995-8.
-->''Two years gone by but still they never,''
-->''Ever cross a picket line.''
-->''With their wives and
bat. Ryan orders the titular characters' children they stand together.''
-->''Never cross
killed because one ''might'' grow up to be TheChosenOne. Mayo gleefully [[ManipulativeBastard manipulates]] Coheed into doing the deed, making him believe his children are going to go AxeCrazy and destroy the universe because of a picket line!''
-->''You
(nonexistent) virus. And all of this transpires in the ''second song'' on the first album. [[SelfFulfillingProphecy One survives]], and grows up to be a rather dark and cynical MessianicArchetype.
** Coheed's event horizon would likely be either when he uses a very painful virus/poison/whatever provided by Mayo to kill his youngest children, toddler twins Matthew and Maria. Right after telling them that [[BlatantLies everything will be all right,]] or [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone after he realizes how horrible that
must never cross have been]] and decides to kill his next child (his twenty-something, recently engaged and [[RapeAsDrama raped]] daughter) with a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picketing_(protest) picket line]]!''''sledgehammer.'' And this is one of the ''[[WhatTheHellHero protagonists.]]''



* Edward Baynes in Music/DreamTheater's ''Metropolis, Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory'' crossed this line when he [[spoiler: shot and killed his brother Julian and said brother's lover, Victoria, and [[KarmaHoudini got away with it]]]]. And just when you thought it was over, [[spoiler: the Hypnotherapist, implied to be his reincarnation, kills Nicholas, Victoria's reincarnation. Like he couldn't resist killing someone once...]]
* Music/{{Eminem}}'s song "3 AM" deals with how a serial killer's mind works (a la the characters in slasher films, which he portrays in the song). In the final verse, he explains when he crosses the threshold by explaining when his "days of serial murder manslaughter begun". He describes when he dismembered his cousin, cutting him up and drinking his bath water (when he first thought about drinking the murdered's blood instead).



* [[CoheedandCambria Amory Wars']] BigBad, Wilhelm Ryan, and [[TheDragon Dragon]], Mayo Deftinwolf, crossed this right off the bat. Ryan orders the titular characters' children killed because one ''might'' grow up to be TheChosenOne. Mayo gleefully [[ManipulativeBastard manipulates]] Coheed into doing the deed, making him believe his children are going to go AxeCrazy and destroy the universe because of a (nonexistent) virus. And all of this transpires in the ''second song'' on the first album. [[SelfFulfillingProphecy One survives]], and grows up to be a rather dark and cynical MessianicArchetype.
** Coheed's event horizon would likely be either when he uses a very painful virus/poison/whatever provided by Mayo to kill his youngest children, toddler twins Matthew and Maria. Right after telling them that [[BlatantLies everything will be all right,]] or [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone after he realizes how horrible that must have been]] and decides to kill his next child (his twenty-something, recently engaged and [[RapeAsDrama raped]] daughter) with a ''sledgehammer.'' And this is one of the ''[[WhatTheHellHero protagonists.]]''
* Edward Baynes in Music/DreamTheater's ''Metropolis, Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory'' crossed this line when he [[spoiler: shot and killed his brother Julian and said brother's lover, Victoria, and [[KarmaHoudini got away with it]]]]. And just when you thought it was over, [[spoiler: the Hypnotherapist, implied to be his reincarnation, kills Nicholas, Victoria's reincarnation. Like he couldn't resist killing someone once...]]

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* [[CoheedandCambria Amory Wars']] BigBad, Wilhelm Ryan, The Billy Bragg song ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojPTz4VAOMA Never Cross a Picket Line]]'' argues that...well, [[CaptainObvious crossing picket lines]] is a moral event horizon. It was written to support the three-year long, and [[TheDragon Dragon]], Mayo Deftinwolf, crossed this right off the bat. Ryan orders the titular characters' ultimately successful Liverpool Dockers' Strike of 1995-8.
-->''Two years gone by but still they never,''
-->''Ever cross a picket line.''
-->''With their wives and
children killed because one ''might'' grow up to be TheChosenOne. Mayo gleefully [[ManipulativeBastard manipulates]] Coheed into doing the deed, making him believe his children are going to go AxeCrazy and destroy the universe because of they stand together.''
-->''Never cross
a (nonexistent) virus. And all of this transpires in the ''second song'' on the first album. [[SelfFulfillingProphecy One survives]], and grows up to be a rather dark and cynical MessianicArchetype.
** Coheed's event horizon would likely be either when he uses a very painful virus/poison/whatever provided by Mayo to kill his youngest children, toddler twins Matthew and Maria. Right after telling them that [[BlatantLies everything will be all right,]] or [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone after he realizes how horrible that
picket line!''
-->''You
must have been]] and decides to kill his next child (his twenty-something, recently engaged and [[RapeAsDrama raped]] daughter) with never cross a ''sledgehammer.'' And this is one of the ''[[WhatTheHellHero protagonists.]]''
* Edward Baynes in Music/DreamTheater's ''Metropolis, Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory'' crossed this line when he [[spoiler: shot and killed his brother Julian and said brother's lover, Victoria, and [[KarmaHoudini got away with it]]]]. And just when you thought it was over, [[spoiler: the Hypnotherapist, implied to be his reincarnation, kills Nicholas, Victoria's reincarnation. Like he couldn't resist killing someone once...]]
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picketing_(protest) picket line]]!''



* As for gangsta rappers UpToEleven such as Music/{{Eazy-E}}, Music/TheNotoriousBIG, Music/GetoBoys, Music/{{Gravediggaz}} or Music/{{Esham}}, this is practically a recurring theme for almost any song of theirs.



* Music/{{Eminem}}'s song "3 AM" deals with how a serial killer's mind works (a la the characters in slasher films, which he portrays in the song). In the final verse, he explains when he crosses the threshold by explaining when his "days of serial murder manslaughter begun". He describes when he dismembered his cousin, cutting him up and drinking his bath water (when he first thought about drinking the murdered's blood instead).
* As for gangsta rappers UpToEleven such as Music/{{Eazy-E}}, Music/TheNotoriousBIG, Music/GetoBoys, Music/{{Gravediggaz}} or Music/{{Esham}}, this is practically a recurring theme for almost any song of theirs.
1st Nov '13 10:41:23 PM JIKTV
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* Eminem's song "3 AM" deals with how a serial killer's mind works (a la the characters in slasher films, which he portrays in the song). In the final verse, he explains when he crosses the threshold by explaining when his "days of serial murder manslaughter begun". He describes when he dismembered his cousin, cutting him up and drinking his bath water (when he first thought about drinking the murdered's blood instead).
* As for gangsta rappers UpToEleven such as EazyE, TheNotoriousBIG, GetoBoys, {{Gravediggaz}} or {{Esham}}, this is practically a recurring theme for almost any song of theirs.

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* Eminem's Music/{{Eminem}}'s song "3 AM" deals with how a serial killer's mind works (a la the characters in slasher films, which he portrays in the song). In the final verse, he explains when he crosses the threshold by explaining when his "days of serial murder manslaughter begun". He describes when he dismembered his cousin, cutting him up and drinking his bath water (when he first thought about drinking the murdered's blood instead).
* As for gangsta rappers UpToEleven such as EazyE, TheNotoriousBIG, GetoBoys, {{Gravediggaz}} Music/{{Eazy-E}}, Music/TheNotoriousBIG, Music/GetoBoys, Music/{{Gravediggaz}} or {{Esham}}, Music/{{Esham}}, this is practically a recurring theme for almost any song of theirs.
23rd May '13 7:42:27 PM LLCJ
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* As for gangsta rappers UpToEleven such as EazyE, TheNotoriousBIG, GetoBoys, {{Gravediggaz}} or {{Esham}}, this is practically a recurring theme for almost any song of theirs.
13th Apr '13 6:35:41 AM Achaemenid
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-->''Two years gone by but still they never,

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-->''Two years gone by but still they never,never,''
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