History MoralEventHorizon / LiveActionTV

6th Dec '17 9:57:05 AM ajbit26
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** Whenever a villain tortured a member of the Scoobie Gang, they tended to be seen as having gone just plain too far. Such as [[spoiler: when Angelus tortured Giles to get information]], and when in ''Angel'', [[spoiler: Faith tortured Wesley for ''no reason at all''. Angelus was an actual villain, whereas Faith was just an AntiHero...]]

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** Whenever a villain tortured a member of the Scoobie Scooby Gang, they tended to be seen as having gone just plain too far. Such as [[spoiler: when Angelus tortured Giles to get information]], and when in ''Angel'', [[spoiler: Faith tortured Wesley for ''no reason at all''. Angelus was Wesley, in an actual villain, whereas Faith was just an AntiHero...]] attempt to get Angel to [[SuicideByCop murder her because she could no longer live with herself.]]]]



** If it wasn't the AttemptedRape and murder of Xander, Faith trying to kill Angel is a InUniverse example, motivating Buffy to feed her to him or kill her trying to do so. When she recovers Faith also essentially rapes both Buffy and Riley [[GrandTheftMe (she uses Buffy's body to try and get Riley to do harmful things to her body, and sleeps with him.)]] Buffy is so furious she is willing to go through Angel in her attempt to kill her, but Angel defied this trope by claiming that despite all this, Faith still wasn't too far gone. Of course, given the above, he ''would'' know a lot about being too far gone...
** Buffy herself because of her actions in "[[Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS7E15GetItDone Get It Done]]" caused some fans to be so disgusted that she was beyond redemption. Such a view is pretty universal in regards to [[TheScrappy Kennedy]] for the same reasons who is utterly loathed by pretty much all of the fanbase, and considered completely irredeemable.

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** If it wasn't the AttemptedRape and murder of Xander, Faith trying to kill Angel is a an InUniverse example, motivating Buffy to feed her to him or kill her trying to do so. When she recovers Faith also essentially rapes both Buffy and Riley [[GrandTheftMe (she uses Buffy's body to try and get Riley to do harmful things to her body, and sleeps sleep with him.her.)]] Buffy is so furious she is willing to go through Angel in her attempt to kill her, but Angel defied this trope by claiming that despite all this, Faith still wasn't too far gone. Of course, given the above, he ''would'' know a lot about being too far gone...
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** Buffy herself Buffy, if sshe didn't do it with her earlier actions in season 3, then it was because of her actions in "[[Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS7E15GetItDone Get It Done]]" caused some fans to be so disgusted that she was beyond redemption. Such a view is pretty universal in regards to [[TheScrappy Kennedy]] for the same reasons reasons, who is utterly loathed by pretty much all of the fanbase, and considered completely irredeemable.
30th Nov '17 11:32:32 PM VisitorAlex
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* ''MoralEventHorizon/GameOfThrones''



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10th Nov '17 3:16:08 PM NickBush24
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** Olivia herself when she [[spoiler: blows up Rashad and Yasmeen's plane]] at the end of "Adventures in Babysitting."
31st Oct '17 6:26:51 PM Owlorange1995
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** Although Savitar has doubtless committed multiple atrocities during his travels throughout time, he finally draws the complete ire of Team Flash by [[spoiler:killing Iris in the future, driving Barry into an eight-year-long HeroicBSOD and splitting both the team and the West family apart in the process.]] It gets even worse with the reveal that Savitar [[spoiler: is none other than [[FallenHero Barry Allen]] himself via the Flash [[StableTimeLoop creating a time remnant in the future to stop Savitar]]. After his complete ostracization from Team Flash and a who-knows-how-long MindRape in the Speed Force, Savitar/Future Flash hates his former self and friends so much that he is willing to kill the love of his life and break his family apart out of pure spite. It really says something that his ''entire existence'' is a direct result of crossing the MoralEventHorizon.]]
27th Jul '17 2:13:09 PM ClintEastwood
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** Buffy herself because of her actions in "Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS7E15GetItDone" caused some fans to be so disgusted that she was beyond redemption. Such a view is pretty universal in regards to [[TheScrappy Kennedy]] for the same reasons who is utterly loathed by pretty much all of the fanbase, and considered completely irredeemable.

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** Buffy herself because of her actions in "Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS7E15GetItDone" "[[Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS7E15GetItDone Get It Done]]" caused some fans to be so disgusted that she was beyond redemption. Such a view is pretty universal in regards to [[TheScrappy Kennedy]] for the same reasons who is utterly loathed by pretty much all of the fanbase, and considered completely irredeemable.



** In the final episode, Jubal Early subdues Kaylee by [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil threatening to rape her.]]
** Jayne comes ''very'' close to crossing it in "Ariel," [[spoiler: when he tries to sell Simon and River to the Feds.]] He almost gets ThrownOutTheAirlock by Mal, but [[spoiler: that turned out to be a SecretTestOfCharacter, which he just barely passed.]]
** In "War Stories," Niska crosses the line when he kidnaps [[spoiler: Mal and Wash]] and starts torturing them to death. This brings the wrath of the rest of the crew directly down on his head.

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** In [[Recap/FireflyE14ObjectsInSpace the final episode, episode]], Jubal Early subdues Kaylee by [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil threatening to rape her.]]
** Jayne comes ''very'' close to crossing it in "Ariel," "[[{{Recap/FireflyE09Ariel}} Ariel]]", [[spoiler: when he tries to sell Simon and River to the Feds.]] He almost gets ThrownOutTheAirlock by Mal, but [[spoiler: that turned out to be a SecretTestOfCharacter, which he just barely passed.]]
** In "War Stories," "[[{{Recap/FireflyE10WarStories}} War Stories]]", Niska crosses the line when he kidnaps [[spoiler: Mal and Wash]] and starts torturing them to death. This brings the wrath of the rest of the crew directly down on his head.
23rd Jul '17 8:55:18 PM FastFuriousFan
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** [[Recap/BreakingBadS5E14Ozymandias "Ozymandias"]] begins with Walter [[spoiler:giving up Jesse to the Nazis, then telling Jesse how he let Jane die, even though he could have saved her]]. Towards the end of the episode, he [[spoiler:kidnaps his infant daughter, believing she didn't know enough to turn against him. [[[[AllForNothing He]] [[TearJerker was]] [[IWantMyMommy wrong]]]].

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** [[Recap/BreakingBadS5E14Ozymandias "Ozymandias"]] begins with Walter [[spoiler:giving up Jesse to the Nazis, then telling Jesse how he let Jane die, even though he could have saved her]]. Towards the end of the episode, he [[spoiler:kidnaps his infant daughter, believing she didn't know enough to turn against him. [[[[AllForNothing [[AllForNothing He]] [[TearJerker was]] [[IWantMyMommy wrong]]]].
21st Jul '17 2:40:56 PM FastFuriousFan
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** [[Recap/BreakingBadS5E14Ozymandias "Ozymandias"]] begins with Walter [[spoiler:giving up Jesse to the Nazis, then telling Jesse how he let Jane die, even though he could have saved her]]. Towards the end of the episode, he [[spoiler:kidnaps his infant daughter]].

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** [[Recap/BreakingBadS5E14Ozymandias "Ozymandias"]] begins with Walter [[spoiler:giving up Jesse to the Nazis, then telling Jesse how he let Jane die, even though he could have saved her]]. Towards the end of the episode, he [[spoiler:kidnaps his infant daughter]].daughter, believing she didn't know enough to turn against him. [[[[AllForNothing He]] [[TearJerker was]] [[IWantMyMommy wrong]]]].
13th Jul '17 9:41:44 PM Anddrix
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** The Saxon Master has two possible moments:
*** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E12TheSoundOfDrums The Sound of Drums]]", where he takes over Earth and orders the Toclafane to kill one tenth of its population, ages the Tenth Doctor with his Laser Screwdriver, and enslaves Martha Jones' family.
*** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E12TheDoctorFalls The Doctor Falls]]", where he [[spoiler: ''permanently'' ([[JokerImmunity At least, for the time being]]) kills Missy, his future incarnation, for choosing to make a HeelFaceTurn and join forces with the Doctor.]]
7th Jul '17 3:39:33 AM TimeLordVictorious
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** One could argue [[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E7Logopolis "Logopolis"]] for The Master. Yes before he had manipulated, threatened, and killed lots and lots of people, but compared to the number of people The Doctor had manipulated, threatened and killed, they were basically even, and before Delgado died he was even supposed to have a DeathEqualsRedemption plot. And then, when he gets a proper new body again, he destroys one-quarter of the universe, including the home planet of one of the Doctor's companions (though admittedly that was an accident he caused by going on a killing spree). And the new body he got is the corpse of said companion's father. After that, there was really no going back for him.

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** One could argue [[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E7Logopolis "Logopolis"]] for The Master.Master when he was portrayed by Creator/AnthonyAinley. Yes before he had manipulated, threatened, and killed lots and lots of people, but compared to the number of people The Doctor had manipulated, threatened and killed, they were basically even, and before Delgado died he was even supposed to have a DeathEqualsRedemption plot. And then, when he gets a proper new body again, he destroys one-quarter of the universe, including the home planet of one of the Doctor's companions (though admittedly that was an accident he caused by going on a killing spree). And the new body he got is the corpse of said companion's father. After that, there was really no going back for him.that specific incarnation.


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** The Saxon Master has two possible moments:
*** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E12TheSoundOfDrums The Sound of Drums]]", where he takes over Earth and orders the Toclafane to kill one tenth of its population, ages the Tenth Doctor with his Laser Screwdriver, and enslaves Martha Jones' family.
*** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E12TheDoctorFalls The Doctor Falls]]", where he [[spoiler: ''permanently'' ([[JokerImmunity At least, for the time being]]) kills Missy, his future incarnation, for choosing to make a HeelFaceTurn and join forces with the Doctor.]]
13th Jun '17 6:43:58 PM Peridonyx
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* ''Series/{{ER}}'': VillainOfTheWeek Derek Fossen in Season 7's two-part finale. In the first part, Greene learns Fossen is an {{Abusive Parent}}, so the former decides to help the latter's son escape into foster care. And in the second part, how does Fossen respond? By [[AxCrazy completely snapping]] and invoking GoingPostal [[DisproportionateRetribution on anyone even-remotely connected to him (justifiably) losing his son (and soon just everyone in Fossen's way), eventually threatening Greene's own family for some cold-blooded irony]]. [[spoiler:Thankfully, Fossen is finally stopped and critically injured... but then [[OhCrap finds himself under]] [[PapaWolf Greene's]] [[VigilanteExecution care]].]]
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