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8th Nov '17 3:56:06 AM Shadowgazer
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** Billy Nolan is a total psychopath. He often [[DomesticAbuse beats up his girlfriend, Chris, and humiliates her]], and his own "friends" are terrified of him. He barely knows who Carrie is; he just wants to destroy her life. What makes him arguably the scariest character is that he has absolutely no connections to Carrie and does the prom prank only ForTheEvulz -- he took over the plan from Chris and did most of it himself, and it's stated that he would find it just as funny if Chris were the victim of the prank.

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** Billy Nolan is a total psychopath. He psychopath who often [[DomesticAbuse beats up his girlfriend, Chris, and humiliates her]], and his own "friends" are terrified of him. He barely knows who Carrie is; he just wants to destroy her life. What makes him arguably the scariest character is that he has absolutely no connections to Carrie and does the prom prank only ForTheEvulz -- he took over the plan from Chris and did most of it himself, and it's stated that he would find it just as funny if Chris were the victim of the prank.


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* ''Literature/It'':
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** Patrick Hockstetter murders his baby brother in his cradle ''at the age of five'' and steals his neighbor's dog and locks it in a fridge to slowly die while checking it every few days. He is described as so profoundly sociopathic that the concept of morality was impossible for him to grasp. In a sense, he was born on the far side of the MoralEventHorizon.
** Tom Rogan is already an abusive asshole and a virtual carbon-copy of Beverly Marsh's equally abusive father. When Beverly finally stands up to him and leaves him, he tracks down Beverly's best friend Kay and tortures her into revealing her whereabouts before going after her in revenge. He doesn't get too far, however, and [[spoiler:dies of fright when It reveals Its true form to him]].
8th Nov '17 3:29:28 AM Shadowgazer
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** Margaret probably crossed it long before the story begins (probably the second she first locked Carrie in a prayer closet, actually), but when she decides to murder her daughter, you know there's absolutely no hope of her ever being redeemed.
** In the book, Miss Desjardin, the gym teacher who had been very helpful to Carrie throughout the novel, laughs at her with the rest of them when the prank occurs, although she does express regret later on. Carrie also learns through crude emotional telepathy that Miss Desjardin (who enjoyed slapping Carrie in the showers) feels a mixture of pity for her and annoyance at her social awkwardness.
** Billy Nolan is a total psychopath. He often [[DomesticAbuse beats up his girlfriend, Chris, and humiliates her]], and his own "friends" are terrified of him. He barely knows who Carrie is; he just wants to destroy her life. What makes him arguably the scariest character is that he has absolutely no connections to Carrie and does the prom prank only ForTheEvulz -- he took over the plan from Chris and did most of it himself, and it's stated that he would find it just as funny if Chris were the victim of the prank.
4th Oct '17 5:31:06 PM BoxerAndCrewSocks
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* In ''Literature/ReadyPlayerOne'', Nolan Sorrento crosses it not only when he kills Wade Watts' friend Daito, but orders a manhunt against Watts to keep him from finding the secret to Anorak's Almanac. [[spoiler: After Watts finds the secret anyway, Sorrento is stripped of his position and arrested in the denouement.]]
23rd Sep '17 5:29:48 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* [[OurDemonsAreDifferent The Guardian of Gloom]], Yaraat, evil werewolf from ''Methodius Buslaev'' series of Russian write Dmitrii Emets, crossed this when he betrayed Ares, his fellow Guardian of Gloom, God of War, who prevented him from killing by other Guardians, as he was a thief, and killed his wife and little daughter. To clarify, [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Ares bore a child from human woman]] (and didn't take their [[OurSoulsAreDifferent eide]], as by Gloom's law), he got with them on the run. However, Guardians has found them and he summoned Yaraat to protect them, while he would chase them off. [[BitchInSheepsClothing Yaraat]] happily agreed to help them and wait till Ares arrive. When Ares returned, he found only the bodies of his family in the well near their house where they were hiding... It turned out that Yaraat threatened to kill both mother and her daughter but not before taking their souls (eide could be taken only with consent and humans can be killed by Guardians of the Gloom only if their eide are consented to be given away or if they attack demons) and then killed them. Worse, it's heavily implied [[ItAmusedMe he did this simply to mock Ares and torture him, making his former friend to chase him.]] This event turned him into ArchEnemy in Ares's eyes [[spoiler: and got killed by him in second book.]]

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* [[OurDemonsAreDifferent The Guardian of Gloom]], Yaraat, evil werewolf from ''Methodius Buslaev'' series of Russian write writer Dmitrii Emets, crossed this when he betrayed Ares, his fellow Guardian of Gloom, God of War, who prevented him from killing by other Guardians, as he was a thief, and killed his wife and little daughter. To clarify, [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Ares bore a child from human woman]] (and didn't take their [[OurSoulsAreDifferent eide]], as by Gloom's law), he got with them on the run. However, Guardians has found them and he summoned Yaraat to protect them, while he would chase them off. [[BitchInSheepsClothing Yaraat]] happily agreed to help them and wait till Ares arrive. When Ares returned, he found only the bodies of his family in the well near their house where they were hiding... It turned out that Yaraat threatened to kill both mother and her daughter but not before taking their souls (eide could be taken only with consent and humans can be killed by Guardians of the Gloom only if their eide are consented to be given away or if they attack demons) and then killed them. Worse, it's heavily implied [[ItAmusedMe he did this simply to mock Ares and torture him, making his former friend to chase him.]] This event turned him into ArchEnemy in Ares's eyes [[spoiler: and got killed by him in second book.]]
23rd Aug '17 1:16:49 AM rufusluciusivan
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* In ''Literature/BattleRoyale'', Kinpatsu Sakamochi crosses it when he reveals to the class that he raped Shuya and Yoshitoki's caretaker. Just to add insult to injury, he [[spoiler: kills [[DisproportionateRetribution Yoshitoki for having a rightful outburst from the revelation and Fumiyo for whispering]]]].

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* In ''Literature/BattleRoyale'', ''Literature/BattleRoyale'':
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Kinpatsu Sakamochi crosses it when he reveals to the class that he raped Shuya and Yoshitoki's caretaker. Just to add insult to injury, he [[spoiler: kills [[DisproportionateRetribution Yoshitoki for having a rightful outburst from the revelation and Fumiyo for whispering]]]].whispering]]]].
** Story-wise, Kazuho Kiriyama crosses it the moment he decides to "play to win" on a coin toss and [[spoiler:kills the members of his gang]].
** Mitsuko Souma crosses it when she murders [[spoiler:a defenseless Megumi Eto]] right after gaining her trust, showing a casual disregard towards the crime she just committed.
14th Aug '17 4:39:28 PM DoctorCooper
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* ''Literature/TheAdventuresOfPinocchio'': The Fox and the Cat cross the line when they attempt to kill Pinocchio in a very cruel way, showing that they are unrepentantly murderous. The Coachman/The Little Man has long crossed it with what he does to children (convert them into donkeys and sell them to people that would likely abuse them, kill them or work them to death).
11th Aug '17 4:32:31 PM Ninjat126
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* [[spoiler: Godking Wanhope]] from ''[[Literature/TheNightAngelTrilogy The Night Angel]]'' has a series of POV chapters which are essentially a montage of MEH crossings. Notably, he justifies [[MoralMyopia (to himself)]] each of them in one way or another. [spoiler: In the end he does manage to redeem himself, but only via a heroic sacrifice via lobotomy.]]

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* [[spoiler: Godking Wanhope]] from ''[[Literature/TheNightAngelTrilogy The Night Angel]]'' has a series of POV chapters which are essentially a montage of MEH crossings. Notably, he justifies [[MoralMyopia (to himself)]] each of them in one way or another. [spoiler: [[spoiler: In the end he does manage to redeem himself, but only via with a heroic sacrifice via lobotomy.]]
11th Aug '17 4:30:50 PM Ninjat126
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* Garoth Ursull from ''[[Literature/TheNightAngelTrilogy The Night Angel]]'', just the Emperor of Evilness itself, why? For fun of course!

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* Garoth Ursull [[spoiler: Godking Wanhope]] from ''[[Literature/TheNightAngelTrilogy The Night Angel]]'', just Angel]]'' has a series of POV chapters which are essentially a montage of MEH crossings. Notably, he justifies [[MoralMyopia (to himself)]] each of them in one way or another. [spoiler: In the Emperor of Evilness itself, why? For fun of course!end he does manage to redeem himself, but only via a heroic sacrifice via lobotomy.]]
27th May '17 8:51:39 PM redandready45
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* ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'': Captain Nemo [[{{Pun}} sails]] over the line with his brutal attack on an enemy ship, and later when he uses a porthole just to ''watch people drown''. Arronax, who had been an ally of Nemo, finally realizes how dangerous the man really is, and decides to jump ship with his friends.
17th May '17 8:40:31 AM Kakai
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* In ''Literature/TheMachineriesOfEmpire'', the Hellfire Massacre is considered one in-universe for Shuos Jedao, and understandably so. He was supposed to take his men and subjugate the last stronghold of the rebels. Instead, he slaughtered everyone on ''both sides'', totalling at over one million people altogether, some of whom he killed with a weapon that [[EyeScream melts your eyes]], while others he executed himself. Out-of-universe, just what exactly happened at Hellspin and Jedao's motivations are ambiguous enough to keep him away from the line, at least thus far.
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