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19th May '13 5:44:05 PM randomtroper89

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* In Tolkien's ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', Melkor's destruction of the Two Trees, murder of Finwë and theft of the Silmarils. After this, he can never again take a form that looks anything other than completely evil, and is named as Morgoth, the Dark Enemy of the World.
** In the Akallabêth, after the Silmarillion but before the events of the LordOfTheRings, Sauron crosses it when he engineers the destruction of Númenor by corrupting its king; like Morgoth, after this action he can never again take an appearance that is not evil.
* Saruman in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' crosses the MoralEventHorizon at the very end, when he does everything possible to destroy the Shire out of pure spite. Up until that point, he'd done plenty of awful things, but had continually been offered (and refused) opportunities for redemption. The destruction of the Shire shows that he's irrevocably fallen from a wizard who was once great and wise to a bitter man with nothing left but hatred and the desire to harm others as much as possible.
* While never a morally upstanding guy, Turin is one of the few sympathetic characters in Middle Earth to pass this, at the climax of Literature/TheChildrenOfHurin when he murders a lame man in a fir of rage, leaving even himself so disgusted that he commits suicide.

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* In [[Creator/JRRTolkien Tolkien's]] [[Franchise/TolkiensLegendarium Middle Earth Legendarium]]:
** ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'':
*** Melkor's destruction of the Two Trees, murder of Finwë and theft of the Silmarils. After this, he can never again take a form that looks anything other than completely evil, and is named as Morgoth, the Dark Enemy of the World.
*** In the Akallabêth, after the Silmarillion but before the events of the LordOfTheRings, Sauron crosses it when he engineers the destruction of Númenor by corrupting its king; like Morgoth, after this action he can never again take an appearance that is not evil.
** Saruman in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' crosses the MoralEventHorizon at the very end, when he does everything possible to destroy the Shire out of pure spite. Up until that point, he'd done plenty of awful things, but had continually been offered (and refused) opportunities for redemption. The destruction of the Shire shows that he's irrevocably fallen from a wizard who was once great and wise to a bitter man with nothing left but hatred and the desire to harm others as much as possible.
** While never a morally upstanding guy, Turin is one of the few sympathetic characters in Middle Earth to pass this, at the climax of ''Literature/TheChildrenOfHurin'' when he murders a lame man in a fir of rage, leaving even himself so disgusted that he commits suicide.

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8th May '13 12:02:39 PM TheMysteriousTroper

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21st Apr '13 7:55:24 PM Cakeman

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16th Apr '13 7:04:33 PM SuperBlah

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12th Apr '13 2:56:51 PM ryanasaurus0077

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*** Alderaan's destruction is a MoralEventHorizon for the man who pulled the trigger, too. In ''Literature/DeathStar'', we have Tenn Graneet, head gunner on the titular superweapon, who for most of the novel has his character built up. He always thought the Death Star would never really be used on a living planet, just on really big ships and bases and the like. When it comes to it, [[EarthShatteringKaboom he follows orders]]. He realizes that as word gets around, even people serving with him on the Death Star treat him strangely, and knows that someday everyone will know, and everyone will loathe him as both the biggest mass murderer of his or possibly any time, and as someone who [[JustFollowingOrders always, always followed orders]]. Unusually, and unlike Tarkin, who gave the order, ''he'' sees his action as a MoralEventHorizon, thinking that [[BeingEvilSucks they would be right to hate him and one day kill him]]. The guilt doesn't let him sleep, and he knows he will be commanded to do worse -- if he doesn't he'll just be killed for disobedience and they will get another gunner and ''he'' will do it -- and, when they are in range of Yavin and his hand is at the final button, he desperately stalls while telling everyone to "Stand By," hoping that something would happen to stop him. [[ForegoneConclusion And it did]]. Poor bastard. If he ever had a chance at redeeming himself, this would be it--his successful attempt to stall the destruction of Yavin long enough to allow Luke Skywalker to blow up the Death Star would be a remarkable example of RedemptionEqualsDeath.

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*** In ''Literature/DeathStar'', we have a personal example in Tenn Graneet, head gunner on the titular superweapon, who for most of the novel has his character built up. He always thought the Death Star would never really be used on a living planet, just on really big ships and bases and the like. When it comes to it, [[EarthShatteringKaboom he follows orders]]. He realizes that as word gets around, even people serving with him on the Death Star treat him strangely, and knows that someday everyone will know, and everyone will loathe him as both the biggest mass murderer of his or possibly any time, and as someone who [[JustFollowingOrders always, always followed orders]]. Unusually, and unlike Tarkin, who gave the order, ''he'' sees his action as a MoralEventHorizon, thinking that [[BeingEvilSucks they would be right to hate him and one day kill him]]. The guilt doesn't let him sleep, and he knows he will be commanded to do worse -- if he doesn't he'll just be killed for disobedience and they will get another gunner and ''he'' will do it -- and, when they are in range of Yavin and his hand is at the final button, he desperately stalls while telling everyone to "Stand By," hoping that something would happen to stop him. [[ForegoneConclusion And it did]]. Poor bastard. If he ever had a chance at redeeming himself, this would be it--his successful attempt to stall the destruction of Yavin long enough to allow Luke Skywalker to blow up the Death Star would be a spectacular example of RedemptionEqualsDeath.

12th Apr '13 2:38:35 PM Sterok

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*** Alderaan's destruction is a MoralEventHorizon for the man who pulled the trigger, too. In ''DeathStar'', we have Tenn Graneet, head gunner on the titular superweapon, who for most of the novel has his character built up. He always thought the Death Star would never really be used on a living planet, just on really big ships and bases and the like. When it comes to it, [[EarthShatteringKaboom he follows orders]]. He realizes that as word gets around, even people serving with him on the Death Star treat him strangely, and knows that someday everyone will know, and everyone will loathe him as both the biggest mass murderer of his or possibly any time, and as someone who [[JustFollowingOrders always, always followed orders]]. Unusually, and unlike Tarkin, who gave the order, ''he'' sees his action as a MoralEventHorizon, thinking that [[BeingEvilSucks they would be right to hate him and one day kill him]]. The guilt doesn't let him sleep, and he knows he will be commanded to do worse -- if he doesn't he'll just be killed for disobedience and they will get another gunner and ''he'' will do it -- and, when they are in range of Yavin and his hand is at the final button, he desperately stalls while telling everyone to "Stand By," hoping that something would happen to stop him. [[ForegoneConclusion And it did]]. Poor bastard. If he ever had a chance at redeeming himself, this would be it--his successful attempt to stall the destruction of Yavin long enough to allow Luke Skywalker to blow up the Death Star would be a remarkable example of RedemptionEqualsDeath.

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10th Apr '13 12:17:49 AM Xtifr

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9th Apr '13 11:46:16 PM BuccoBabe

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8th Apr '13 4:10:09 PM Xtifr

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