* Doctor Octopus and the rest of the Sinister Six, {{Spider-Man}}'s recurring VillainTeamUp, have all murdered a few times over the decades, but it usually happened to {{AssholeVictim}}s, so most readers could shrug it off and continue to at least partially root for them. Then came the early 90's storyline, ''Revenge Of The Sinister Six'' (not to be confused with the novel of the same name). As part of their plan to take over the world, they invade another dimension and steal the highly-advanced weaponry they find there. And to test it out, they kill ''over 143,000'' of that dimension's natives. Spidey himself is stunned, noting that the Six rarely if ever kill. Their bloody campaign continues when they return to Earth, killing at the bare minimum four dozen people (an explicitly given body count), and Octopus threatens to blow-up the world with orbiting weapon satellites if the assembled heroes don't stop fighting him. By the time it's over, a clearly soul-weary Spidey notes that way too many people are heading to the hospital or morgue.

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* DoctorOctopus and the rest of the Sinister Six, {{Spider-Man}}'s recurring VillainTeamUp, have all murdered a few times over the decades, but it usually happened to {{AssholeVictim}}s, so most readers could shrug it off and continue to at least partially root for them. Then came the early 90's storyline, ''Revenge Of The Sinister Six'' (not to be confused with the novel of the same name). As part of their plan to take over the world, they invade another dimension and steal the highly-advanced weaponry they find there. And to test it out, they kill ''over 143,000'' of that dimension's natives. Spidey himself is stunned, noting that the Six rarely if ever kill. Their bloody campaign continues when they return to Earth, killing at the bare minimum four dozen people (an explicitly given body count), and Octopus threatens to blow-up the world with orbiting weapon satellites if the assembled heroes don't stop fighting him. By the time it's over, a clearly soul-weary Spidey notes that way too many people are heading to the hospital or morgue.

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* An interesting example for another {{Spider-Man}} villain, Kraven the Hunter. Kraven claimed to have a code of honor, and didn't (usually) pursue enemies he believed to be beneath his prowess. When he [[spoiler: killed himself]] at the end of "Kraven's Last Hunt", he seemed to validate his claims of being an honorable (if unhinged) man. Years later, when his previously unknown family starts showing up, we get a different image of Kraven, particularly after [[spoiler:they resurrect him]] in "Grim Hunt". Specifically, he [[spoiler:kills]] his wife, and was implied to have abused her in the past. The worst, though, has to be what he did to his remaining children, Alyosha and Ana. He [[spoiler: pits them against each other in a battle to the death, and it's revealed that Ana won.]] Although Ana initially seems fine with this, when she gets into a rematch with the ''ScarletSpider'', she's shown to [[spoiler:have a death wish from the guilt she carries of murdering her older bother.]] Father of the Year, Kraven certainly isn't.

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* An interesting example for another {{Spider-Man}} villain, Kraven the Hunter. Kraven claimed to have a code of honor, and didn't (usually) pursue enemies he believed to be beneath his prowess. When he [[spoiler: killed himself]] at the end of "ComicBook/KravensLastHunt", he seemed to validate his claims of being an honorable (if unhinged) man. Years later, when his previously unknown family starts showing up, we get a different image of Kraven, particularly after [[spoiler:they resurrect him]] in "Grim Hunt". Specifically, he [[spoiler:kills]] his wife, and was implied to have abused her in the past. The worst, though, has to be what he did to his remaining children, Alyosha and Ana. He [[spoiler: pits them against each other in a battle to the death, and it's revealed that Ana won.]] Although Ana initially seems fine with this, when she gets into a rematch with the ''ComicBook/ScarletSpider'', she's shown to [[spoiler:have a death wish from the guilt she carries of murdering her older bother.]] Father of the Year, Kraven certainly isn't.

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