History MoralEventHorizon / ComicBooks

23rd Nov '16 7:58:12 PM HamburgerTime
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** [[CorruptHick Jody]] crosses when he [[BoomHeadshot blows Tulip O'Hare's brains out]] (she gets better) for the "crime" of being a positive influence in Jesse Custer's life, as does [[EvilMatriarch Marie L'Angelle]], who ordered the deed. A subsequent flashback that Marie and her men spent Jesse's childhood merrily murdering their way through anyone and anything that gave Jesse one iota of happiness.

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** [[CorruptHick Jody]] crosses when he [[BoomHeadshot blows Tulip O'Hare's brains out]] (she gets better) for the "crime" of being a positive influence in Jesse Custer's life, as does [[EvilMatriarch Marie L'Angelle]], who ordered the deed. A subsequent flashback shows that Marie and her men spent Jesse's childhood merrily murdering their way through anyone and anything that gave Jesse one iota of happiness.
23rd Nov '16 7:55:38 PM HamburgerTime
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** [[CorruptHick Jody]] crosses when he [[BoomHeadshot blows Tulip O'Hare's brains out]] (she gets better) for the "crime" of being a positive influence in Jesse Custer's life, as does [[EvilMatriarch Marie L'Angelle]], who ordered the deed. A subsequent flashback that Marie and her men spent Jesse's childhood merrily murdering their way through anyone and anything that gave Jesse one iota of happiness.
18th Nov '16 1:53:02 PM Shadowgazer
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*** Red Mist could be considered a subversion [[spoiler: what with his HeelFaceTurn]].
5th Nov '16 8:00:41 AM ACW
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[[quoteright:350:[[Franchise/{{Batman}} http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/jokermeh_4501.jpg]]]]

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3rd Nov '16 12:36:39 PM BigJaredMonkey
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* During one of the side-stories for Marvel's original ''ComicBook/Civil War'' arc, [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol Danvers]] attacks a single mother at the woman's home, and gives the mother in question an NoHoldsBarredBeatdown in front of the woman's daughter, all the while taunting the daughter that she (Carol, that is) is going to throw Mommy in jail and take the little girl away so that the two will never see each other unless Mommy does everything Carol orders her to do. For a lot of fans, this pretty much destroyed any possibility of Danvers being seen as a hero.

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* During one of the side-stories for Marvel's original ''ComicBook/Civil War'' ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' arc, [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol Danvers]] attacks a single mother at the woman's home, and gives the mother in question an NoHoldsBarredBeatdown in front of the woman's daughter, all the while taunting the daughter that she (Carol, that is) is going to throw Mommy in jail and take the little girl away so that the two will never see each other unless Mommy does everything Carol orders her to do. For a lot of fans, this pretty much destroyed any possibility of Danvers being seen as a hero.
18th Oct '16 7:34:21 AM BigJaredMonkey
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* In ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'', [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol Danvers]] crosses this line when [[spoiler:[[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] reveals that Ulysses' precognitive powers aren't predicting the actual future but a possible future, has this confirmed by the Beast and she ''still'' opts to continue to believing the predictions and pushing her "Change the Future" stance. The thing that kicks off the fight is when she and S.H.I.E.L.D. arrests a woman with the only evidence of something bad she could have done being Ulysses' vision of her and an empty suitcase.]]

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* During one of the side-stories for Marvel's original ''ComicBook/Civil War'' arc, [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol Danvers]] attacks a single mother at the woman's home, and gives the mother in question an NoHoldsBarredBeatdown in front of the woman's daughter, all the while taunting the daughter that she (Carol, that is) is going to throw Mommy in jail and take the little girl away so that the two will never see each other unless Mommy does everything Carol orders her to do. For a lot of fans, this pretty much destroyed any possibility of Danvers being seen as a hero.
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In ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'', [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol Danvers]] crosses this line when [[spoiler:[[ComicBook/IronMan [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] reveals that Ulysses' precognitive powers aren't predicting the actual future but a possible future, has this confirmed by the Beast and she ''still'' opts to continue to believing the predictions and pushing her "Change the Future" stance. The thing that kicks off the fight is when she and S.H.I.E.L.D. arrests a woman with the only evidence of something bad she could have done being Ulysses' vision of her and an empty suitcase.]]
Many fans who were apparently unaware of her earlier portrayal as a pragmatic hard-ass willing to hurt innocent people to accomplish the mission consider this portrayal "character assassination."
15th Sep '16 3:59:05 AM Tron80
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* ComicBook/LexLuthor giving a few thousand people superpowers in ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', then taking them away again. While they were in mid-flight. Because he was pissed the power-giving treatment wouldn't work for him. Luthor's a sociopath, sure, but he's not usually that petty (okay, there was that one time he [[AndThatsTerrible stole forty cakes...]]).

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* ComicBook/LexLuthor giving ''ComicBook/LexLuthor'':
** Lex gives
a few thousand people superpowers in ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', then taking takes them away again. While they were in mid-flight. Because he was pissed the power-giving treatment wouldn't work for him. Luthor's a sociopath, sure, but he's not usually that petty (okay, there was that one time he [[AndThatsTerrible stole forty cakes...]]).



** In ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'' Luthor crosses it when it is revealed that he [[spoiler:murdered ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'''s [[Franchise/{{Superman}} baby cousin]],]] and he feels absolutely ''no'' remorse because "it was only an alien", no a person.



** This led to [[GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] going down a moral event horizon of his own when he killed all the other Green Lanterns and became Parallax (though this was retconned later).

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** This led to [[GreenLantern [[Franchise/GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] going down a moral event horizon of his own when he killed all the other Green Lanterns and became Parallax (though this was retconned later).
15th Aug '16 6:54:08 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In the ''Planet X'' storyline, Grant Morrison tried to do this with ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, whom he considered a "mad old terrorist twat." Not surprisingly, it didn't take, and was quickly [[RetCon retconned]] away. Morrison at least had the decency, however, to explain Magneto's OutOfCharacter behavior: [[spoiler:possession by [[BiggerBad John]] [[TheVirus Sublime]]]].

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* In the ''Planet X'' storyline, Grant Morrison tried to do this with ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, whom he considered a "mad old terrorist twat." Not surprisingly, it didn't take, and was quickly [[RetCon retconned]] away. Morrison at least had the decency, however, to explain Magneto's OutOfCharacter behavior: [[spoiler:possession by [[BiggerBad John]] [[TheVirus [[TheVirus John Sublime]]]].
15th Aug '16 6:52:17 PM lalalei2001
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* {{Marvel}} rogue [[JekyllAndHyde Mr. Hyde]] was always a violent, brutal thug of a villain, but his true MEH crossing would have to be when he beat the Avengers' butler Jarvis half to death while Jarvis was tied up and helpless. Hyde did this just to hurt ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, who could only watch as the horrible scene played out.

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** Loki once held Eric Masterson's son, Kevin, hostage to goad Thor to fight him. When he expressed reluctance at killing his brother, Loki showed him he was very willing to kill by blasting at Kevin and his mother; while the Enchantress altered events by having Kevin's guardian Susan be vaporized instead, Kevin saw everything that happened. This act was so heinous that Thor ''did'' kill him for it.
* {{Marvel}} rogue [[JekyllAndHyde Mr. Hyde]] was always a violent, brutal thug of a villain, but his true MEH crossing would have to be in Avengers #275 and #276, when he beat the Avengers' butler Jarvis half to death while Jarvis was tied up and helpless. Hyde did this just to hurt ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, who could only watch as the horrible scene played out.out.
** In an earlier story, Captain America #251 and #252, Hyde wanted revenge against the Cobra for betraying him, but wasn't sure where in New York he was. He decided to cut the knot by ''blowing up the entire city'' with an oil tanker even after Captain America gave himself up as per his request.
13th Aug '16 12:17:56 PM troodos
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** [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] poignantly in ComicBook/BruceWayneFugitive, with [[ArchnemesisDad David]] [[AbusiveParents Cain]]. David is generally an awful person, but probably his most heinous crime is his treatment of [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} his own daughter]], who he abused horrifically in order to turn her into the perfect killing machine. The subversion comes when despite this, Batman makes it clear to Cain that [[AllLovingHero Cassandra]] is still willing to forgive him, and that it's not too late for him to fix things. Cain, however, is too broken at this point to try.
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