History MoralEventHorizon / ComicBooks

15th Sep '16 3:59:05 AM Tron80
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* ComicBook/LexLuthor giving a few thousand people superpowers in ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', then taking them away again. While they were in mid-flight. Because he was pissed the power-giving treatment wouldn't work for him. Luthor's a sociopath, sure, but he's not usually that petty (okay, there was that one time he [[AndThatsTerrible stole forty cakes...]]).

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* ComicBook/LexLuthor giving ''ComicBook/LexLuthor'':
** Lex gives
a few thousand people superpowers in ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', then taking takes them away again. While they were in mid-flight. Because he was pissed the power-giving treatment wouldn't work for him. Luthor's a sociopath, sure, but he's not usually that petty (okay, there was that one time he [[AndThatsTerrible stole forty cakes...]]).



** In ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'' Luthor crosses it when it is revealed that he [[spoiler:murdered ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'''s [[Franchise/{{Superman}} baby cousin]],]] and he feels absolutely ''no'' remorse because "it was only an alien", no a person.



** This led to [[GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] going down a moral event horizon of his own when he killed all the other Green Lanterns and became Parallax (though this was retconned later).

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** This led to [[GreenLantern [[Franchise/GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] going down a moral event horizon of his own when he killed all the other Green Lanterns and became Parallax (though this was retconned later).
15th Aug '16 6:54:08 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In the ''Planet X'' storyline, Grant Morrison tried to do this with ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, whom he considered a "mad old terrorist twat." Not surprisingly, it didn't take, and was quickly [[RetCon retconned]] away. Morrison at least had the decency, however, to explain Magneto's OutOfCharacter behavior: [[spoiler:possession by [[BiggerBad John]] [[TheVirus Sublime]]]].

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* In the ''Planet X'' storyline, Grant Morrison tried to do this with ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, whom he considered a "mad old terrorist twat." Not surprisingly, it didn't take, and was quickly [[RetCon retconned]] away. Morrison at least had the decency, however, to explain Magneto's OutOfCharacter behavior: [[spoiler:possession by [[BiggerBad John]] [[TheVirus [[TheVirus John Sublime]]]].
15th Aug '16 6:52:17 PM lalalei2001
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* {{Marvel}} rogue [[JekyllAndHyde Mr. Hyde]] was always a violent, brutal thug of a villain, but his true MEH crossing would have to be when he beat the Avengers' butler Jarvis half to death while Jarvis was tied up and helpless. Hyde did this just to hurt ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, who could only watch as the horrible scene played out.

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** Loki once held Eric Masterson's son, Kevin, hostage to goad Thor to fight him. When he expressed reluctance at killing his brother, Loki showed him he was very willing to kill by blasting at Kevin and his mother; while the Enchantress altered events by having Kevin's guardian Susan be vaporized instead, Kevin saw everything that happened. This act was so heinous that Thor ''did'' kill him for it.
* {{Marvel}} rogue [[JekyllAndHyde Mr. Hyde]] was always a violent, brutal thug of a villain, but his true MEH crossing would have to be in Avengers #275 and #276, when he beat the Avengers' butler Jarvis half to death while Jarvis was tied up and helpless. Hyde did this just to hurt ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, who could only watch as the horrible scene played out.out.
** In an earlier story, Captain America #251 and #252, Hyde wanted revenge against the Cobra for betraying him, but wasn't sure where in New York he was. He decided to cut the knot by ''blowing up the entire city'' with an oil tanker even after Captain America gave himself up as per his request.
13th Aug '16 12:17:56 PM troodos
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** [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] poignantly in ComicBook/BruceWayneFugitive, with [[ArchnemesisDad David]] [[AbusiveParents Cain]]. David is generally an awful person, but probably his most heinous crime is his treatment of [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} his own daughter]], who he abused horrifically in order to turn her into the perfect killing machine. The subversion comes when despite this, Batman makes it clear to Cain that [[AllLovingHero Cassandra]] is still willing to forgive him, and that it's not too late for him to fix things. Cain, however, is too broken at this point to try.
7th Aug '16 10:09:27 AM nombretomado
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* Cheshire, a PsychoForHire in TheDCU, crossed the line when she nuked Qurac as part of her plan to extort the nations of the world. Creator/GailSimone outright called Cheshire a monster due to this act and rarely writes her as anything else.

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* Cheshire, a PsychoForHire in TheDCU, Franchise/TheDCU, crossed the line when she nuked Qurac as part of her plan to extort the nations of the world. Creator/GailSimone outright called Cheshire a monster due to this act and rarely writes her as anything else.
27th Jul '16 1:35:44 PM Blazer
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* In ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'', [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol Danvers]] crosses this line when [[spoiler:[[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] reveals that Ulysses' precognitive powers aren't predicting the actual future but a possible future, has this confirmed by the Beast and she ''still'' opts to continue to believing the predictions and pushing her "Change the Future" stance. The thing that kicks off the fight is when she and S.H.I.E.L.D. arrests a woman with the only evidence of something bad she could have done being Ulysses' vision of her and an empty suitcase.]]
7th Jul '16 11:21:48 PM Anicomicgeek
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[-[[caption-width-right:350:Why not tell us something we DON'T already know, [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker Joker]]?]]-]

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[-[[caption-width-right:350:Why not tell us something we DON'T already know, [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker [[ComicBook/TheJoker Joker]]?]]-]



** While SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker was (save for a stretch during TheFifties and TheSixties) always portrayed as a total psychopath, it is generally considered that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon in 1988 when, within a few months, he crippled Batgirl for life and beat the 2nd, still-teenaged Robin (Jason Todd) to death with a crowbar.

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** While SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker was (save for a stretch during TheFifties and TheSixties) always portrayed as a total psychopath, it is generally considered that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon in 1988 when, within a few months, he crippled Batgirl for life and beat the 2nd, still-teenaged Robin (Jason Todd) to death with a crowbar.
23rd Jun '16 2:12:13 AM WillBGood
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*** Also, his MEH crosses with another : [[spoiler: the below-mentioned Kravens manipulated Lizard into killing Billy, as part of a larger, sicker scheme to corrupt Spider-Man]].

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*** Also, his MEH crosses with another : [[spoiler: the below-mentioned Kravens aforementioned Kravinoff family manipulated Lizard into killing Billy, as part of a larger, sicker scheme to corrupt Spider-Man]].
15th May '16 9:39:16 AM nombretomado
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* In the ''Planet X'' storyline, Grant Morrison tried to do this with {{Magneto}}, whom he considered a "mad old terrorist twat." Not surprisingly, it didn't take, and was quickly [[RetCon retconned]] away. Morrison at least had the decency, however, to explain Magneto's OutOfCharacter behavior: [[spoiler:possession by [[BiggerBad John]] [[TheVirus Sublime]]]].

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* In the ''Planet X'' storyline, Grant Morrison tried to do this with {{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, whom he considered a "mad old terrorist twat." Not surprisingly, it didn't take, and was quickly [[RetCon retconned]] away. Morrison at least had the decency, however, to explain Magneto's OutOfCharacter behavior: [[spoiler:possession by [[BiggerBad John]] [[TheVirus Sublime]]]].
14th May '16 8:13:05 AM Doug86
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** Talia Al Ghul]] proves she's just as much a monster as her father when she [[spoiler:allows her own son Damian to be brutally slain by his own clone.]] She does have the decency to shed a few tears afterwards...which she dismisses as a moment of weakness.

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** Talia Al Ghul]] Ghul proves she's just as much a monster as her father when she [[spoiler:allows her own son Damian to be brutally slain by his own clone.]] She does have the decency to shed a few tears afterwards...which she dismisses as a moment of weakness.



* If the ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'' villain Vulcan didn't cross the Horizon when he [[spoiler: killed Banshee as well as a ''lot'' of other people]], then he ''definitely'' crossed it when he [[spoiler: [[SelfMadeOrphan murdered his own father Corsair]].]].

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* If the ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'' ''ComicBook/XMen'' villain Vulcan didn't cross the Horizon when he [[spoiler: killed Banshee as well as a ''lot'' of other people]], then he ''definitely'' crossed it when he [[spoiler: [[SelfMadeOrphan murdered his own father Corsair]].]].
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