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20th Jun '17 11:30:25 AM erforce
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* The original ''[[Film/TheWickerMan Wicker Man]]'' had something like twelve minutes of footage removed after an early screening. With the possible exception of the original Media-Home Entertainment release, they've never been seen since. Creator/ChristopherLee, who considered this one of his best films, [[BerserkButton was NOT happy about this]]. A 2001 home video release restored some of these scenes, including the original opening scene - from a clearly inferior print, but still.

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* The original ''[[Film/TheWickerMan ''[[Film/TheWickerMan1973 Wicker Man]]'' had something like twelve minutes of footage removed after an early screening. With the possible exception of the original Media-Home Entertainment release, they've never been seen since. Creator/ChristopherLee, who considered this one of his best films, [[BerserkButton was NOT happy about this]]. A 2001 home video release restored some of these scenes, including the original opening scene - from a clearly inferior print, but still.
13th Jun '17 9:21:47 AM GeniusInTheLamp
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* The 1933 [[UsefulNotes/ThePreCodeEra Pre-Code]] comedy ''Convention City'' was taken out of circulation shortly after its release due to its very racy content. The most recent known screening was in a Spanish theater in 1942.
28th Apr '17 11:49:46 AM mlsmithca
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** It hardly helps that nitrate-based film stock (used until 1951) is notorious for its chemical instability and flammability--[[http://fan.tcm.com/blogpost/vault-and-nitrate-fires-a-history film vault fires]] have destroyed the last known copies of many films. (Most of Theda Bara's career was burned up in a 1937 vault fire.) Also, the film stock contained enough silver to give studios a financial incentive to send "useless" and dangerous old negatives and prints for rendering.
*** And that the way many of the films were copied for distribution - with an optical printer - means that each pass to create a new copy actually destroyed the original negatives somewhat. That's why a lot of the movies from this period (if they're not just impossible to find) are pretty bad copies. You could only get about a thousand copies out of one set of original negatives.

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** It hardly helps that nitrate-based film stock (used until 1951) is notorious for its chemical instability and flammability--[[http://fan.tcm.com/blogpost/vault-and-nitrate-fires-a-history film vault fires]] have destroyed the last known copies of many films. (Most of Theda Bara's career was burned up in a 1937 vault fire.) Also, the film stock contained enough silver to give studios a financial incentive to send "useless" and dangerous old negatives and prints for rendering.
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rendering. And that the way many of the films were copied for distribution - with an optical printer - means that each pass to create a new copy actually destroyed the original negatives somewhat. That's why a lot of the movies from this period (if they're not just impossible to find) are pretty bad copies. You could only get about a thousand copies out of one set of original negatives.



** And again, Orson Welles' ''TheOtherSideOfTheWind'', one of his last projects, starring John Huston and Peter Bogdanovich; supposedly "96% complete" but gathering dust in a vault for decades due to legal squabbles. Netflix [[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/14/movies/unfinished-orson-welles-film-gets-a-netflix-commitment.html bought the rights]] to the film in March 2017, and are funding restoration of the footage, but no other details (like a release date) have been announced since.

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** And again, Orson Welles' ''TheOtherSideOfTheWind'', ''Film/TheOtherSideOfTheWind'', one of his last projects, starring John Huston and Peter Bogdanovich; supposedly "96% complete" but gathering dust in a vault for decades due to legal squabbles. Netflix [[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/14/movies/unfinished-orson-welles-film-gets-a-netflix-commitment.html bought the rights]] to the film in March 2017, and are funding restoration of the footage, but no other details (like a release date) have been announced since.



* The '''original''' theatrical cuts for ''Franchise/StarWars'' films ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'', ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', and ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. None of those cuts appeared on the VHS releases or even the 2006 limited edition [=DVDs=] (which did feature ''versions'' of the original theatrical presentations, not the original cuts themselves), due to (according to George Lucas) the original negatives being deteriorated and destroyed. This began with some of the original Star Wars re-release in theaters to introduce "Episode IV: A New Hope" which is not original to '77. Part of this is supposedly due to Lucas having OldShame over the fact that there were several elements of the films that weren't as good as he hoped (including effects and specific scenes) - he considers the altered versions his "true" vision. However, the American Film Institute and U.S. Library of Congress both purportedly hold prints of the original theatrical versions, so it's anyone's guess whether they will be released a long, long time from now.
** With the Disney buyout of Lucasfilm, some have taken up hope that the original cuts may be released. Alongside hopes of a release of ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial''.

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* The '''original''' theatrical cuts for ''Franchise/StarWars'' films ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'', ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', and ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. None of those cuts appeared on the VHS releases or even the 2006 limited edition [=DVDs=] (which did feature ''versions'' of the original theatrical presentations, not the original cuts themselves), due to (according to George Lucas) the original negatives being deteriorated and destroyed. This began with some of the original Star Wars re-release in theaters to introduce "Episode IV: A New Hope" which is not original to '77. Part of this is supposedly due to Lucas having OldShame over the fact that there were several elements of the films that weren't as good as he hoped (including effects and specific scenes) - he considers the altered versions his "true" vision. However, the American Film Institute and U.S. Library of Congress both purportedly hold prints of the original theatrical versions, so it's anyone's guess whether they will be released a long, long time from now.
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now. With the Disney buyout of Lucasfilm, some have taken up hope that the original cuts may be released. Alongside hopes of a release of ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial''.



* Good luck finding a copy of ''Day Of The Tiger'', the ultra violent early 80s kung-fu film. After the audience reaction (disgust and horror) to its limited screening, the original distributor attempted to destroy all copies of the film to appease their theaters, and it's unclear if they succeeded or not. Most of the time, you'll just find small clips mistaken for parts of "Film/TheStoryOfRicky". Its sequel, at least, can be found in torrents.

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* Good luck finding a copy of ''Day Of The Tiger'', the ultra violent early 80s kung-fu film. After the audience reaction (disgust and horror) to its limited screening, the original distributor attempted to destroy all copies of the film to appease their theaters, and it's unclear if they succeeded or not. Most of the time, you'll just find small clips mistaken for parts of "Film/TheStoryOfRicky".''Film/TheStoryOfRicky''. Its sequel, at least, can be found in torrents.



* The original version of the 2003 Disney documentary ''TheSweatbox'', which is a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the music for ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove''. The process of scoring the film's soundtrack (composed by [[Music/ThePolice Sting]]) was held in a cramped sound stage that was nicknamed "The Sweatbox", but grew in nature to encompass the state of the film's troubled production. The documentary (directed by Sting's wife Trudi) chronicled the change during the production from its original title ''Kingdom of the Sun'' to the final product, and the filmmakers' growing horror when they realized the original version was ''terrible''. The documentary was screened for a limited time at the Toronto International Film Festival in 2002 in order to qualify for consideration for the Academy Awards, but it has been barred from release (perhaps indefinitely) by Disney.
** The workprint was available on Website/YouTube...for about a day before the uploader removed it. But that was long enough for many people to get a copy.

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* The original version of the 2003 Disney documentary ''TheSweatbox'', which is a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the music for ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove''. The process of scoring the film's soundtrack (composed by [[Music/ThePolice Sting]]) was held in a cramped sound stage that was nicknamed "The Sweatbox", but grew in nature to encompass the state of the film's troubled production. The documentary (directed by Sting's wife Trudi) chronicled the change during the production from its original title ''Kingdom of the Sun'' to the final product, and the filmmakers' growing horror when they realized the original version was ''terrible''. The documentary was screened for a limited time at the Toronto International Film Festival in 2002 in order to qualify for consideration for the Academy Awards, but it has been barred from release (perhaps indefinitely) by Disney.
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Disney. The workprint was available on Website/YouTube...for about a day before the uploader removed it. But that was long enough for many people to get a copy.



* Prior to ''Film/{{The Birth of a Nation|1915}}'', Charles Giblyn's 1913 ''The Battle of Gettysburg'' was the longest and most expensive movie about UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar. Today, it appears to be a lost film.
** ''Birth of a Nation'' itself had a sequel, ''The Fall of a Nation'', which flopped upon release and is now considered lost.

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* Prior to ''Film/{{The Birth of a Nation|1915}}'', Charles Giblyn's 1913 ''The Battle of Gettysburg'' was the longest and most expensive movie about UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar. Today, it appears to be a lost film.
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film. ''Birth of a Nation'' itself had a sequel, ''The Fall of a Nation'', which flopped upon release and is now considered lost.



** Two oft-bootlegged Superman pilots were produced in the early-sixties. One of them was known as ''The Adventures of Super-Pup'' which was an incredibly ill-concieved funny-animal version of the character, but instead of animation, they used little people in fiberglass costumes. A better idea came in the form of ''The Adventures of Superboy'' which followed our hero's days in Smallville. The timeline is a bit questionable, as shots from the origin episode of TAOS appear in the opening sequence, but the show appears to take place in 1961 or so. While not as dreadful as Super Pup, it was a little dull and wasn't picked up. Superboy would have to wait almost twenty years.

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** Two oft-bootlegged Superman pilots were produced in the early-sixties.early '60s. One of them was known as ''The Adventures of Super-Pup'' which was an incredibly ill-concieved funny-animal version of the character, but instead of animation, they used little people in fiberglass costumes. A better idea came in the form of ''The Adventures of Superboy'' which followed our hero's days in Smallville. The timeline is a bit questionable, as shots from the origin episode of TAOS appear in the opening sequence, but the show appears to take place in 1961 or so. While not as dreadful as Super Pup, it was a little dull and wasn't picked up. Superboy would have to wait almost twenty years.



* The strange Jon Voight film ''The Legend of Simon Conjurer'' seems to be heading this way. It was supposedly released to a limited number of theaters in 2006 and apparently has yet to recive any release on DVD, Blu-ray, or even Netflix with a large portion of the internet population trying to find it. Considering the only footage available is a trailer, it is speculated that the whole thing was a weird hoax.
** The film was quietly released to streaming platforms in September 2014. It is now called "Deadly Lessons."

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* The strange Jon Voight film ''The Legend of Simon Conjurer'' seems to be heading this way. It was supposedly released to a limited number of theaters in 2006 and apparently has yet to recive any release on DVD, Blu-ray, or even Netflix with a large portion of the internet population trying to find it. Considering the only footage available is a trailer, it is speculated that the whole thing was a weird hoax.
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hoax. The film was quietly released to streaming platforms in September 2014. It is now called "Deadly Lessons.";;Deadly Lessons''.



* ''Dracula's Death'' (1921) was an Hungarian movie, that was apparently the first movie to feature Dracula, beating F.W. Murnau's ''Film/{{Nosferatu}}'' by a year. The movie was re-released in an edited version in Hungary in 1923 and disappeared afterwards. However it should be noted that a novelization of the movie was published in Hungary. And apparently the story had nothing to do with Bram Stoker's novel, only the name of Dracula was used. Dracula is not even a vampire in this story, but rather a demon, who terrorizes a woman in a mental asylum in a castle in Switzerland.

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* ''Dracula's Death'' (1921) was an a Hungarian movie, movie that was apparently the first movie film to feature Dracula, beating F.W. Murnau's ''Film/{{Nosferatu}}'' by a year. The movie was re-released in an edited version in Hungary in 1923 and disappeared afterwards. However it should be noted that However, a novelization of the movie was published in Hungary. And apparently Hungary, and the story had nothing to do with Bram Stoker's novel, novel; only the name of Dracula was used. Dracula is not even a vampire in this story, but rather a demon, who terrorizes a woman in a mental asylum in a castle in Switzerland.
23rd Apr '17 7:10:06 PM DPsycho
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* The original version of the 2003 Disney documentary ''TheSweatbox'', which is a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the music for ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove''. The process of scoring the film's soundtrack (composed by [[Music/ThePolice Sting]]) was held in a cramped sound stage that was nicknamed "The Sweatbox", but grew in nature to encompass the state of the film's troubled production. The doc (directed by Sting's wife Trudi) chronicled the change during the production from its original title ''Kingdom of the Sun'' to the final product, and the filmmakers' growing horror when they realized the original version was ''terrible''. The documentary was screened for a limited time at the Toronto International Film Festival in 2002 in order to qualify for consideration for the Academy Awards, but it has been barred from release (perhaps indefinitely) by Disney.

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* The original version of the 2003 Disney documentary ''TheSweatbox'', which is a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the music for ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove''. The process of scoring the film's soundtrack (composed by [[Music/ThePolice Sting]]) was held in a cramped sound stage that was nicknamed "The Sweatbox", but grew in nature to encompass the state of the film's troubled production. The doc documentary (directed by Sting's wife Trudi) chronicled the change during the production from its original title ''Kingdom of the Sun'' to the final product, and the filmmakers' growing horror when they realized the original version was ''terrible''. The documentary was screened for a limited time at the Toronto International Film Festival in 2002 in order to qualify for consideration for the Academy Awards, but it has been barred from release (perhaps indefinitely) by Disney.
23rd Apr '17 7:07:55 PM DPsycho
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** The uncut version of ''Film/2001ASpaceOdyssey'' has not been seen anywhere since its premiere engagements. Warner Bros. discovered 17 minutes of the footage in 2010; they have no intention of reinserting the footage back into the film in keeping with Kubrick's intentions, but whether they'll be included as extras in an upcoming video release is anyone's guess at this point.

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** The uncut version of ''Film/2001ASpaceOdyssey'' ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey'' has not been seen anywhere since its premiere engagements. Warner Bros. discovered 17 minutes of the footage in 2010; they have no intention of reinserting the footage back into the film in keeping with Kubrick's intentions, but whether they'll be included as extras in an upcoming video release is anyone's guess at this point.
23rd Apr '17 6:50:54 PM DPsycho
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* The [[ExecutiveMeddling infamous American theatrical cut]] of ''Film/OnceUponATimeInAmerica'' has seemingly been never released on home video. Despite several claims to the contrary that it ''did'' see either a VHS or DVD release at one point, virtually all of the known existing home video releases of the film are instead edited versions of the universally-acclaimed director's cut, and if there actually ''was'' a home video release of the American theatrical cut at one point, [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes it's borderline impossible to find it now]]. Considering how said cut --which sloppily watered down director Sierra Leone's preferred non-linear four-hour cut into a chronological two-hour cut against his wishes-- was trashed by reviewers and heavily flopped at the box office; it's lack of availability may (understandably) be [[OldShame a deliberate example]].

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* The [[ExecutiveMeddling infamous American theatrical cut]] of ''Film/OnceUponATimeInAmerica'' has seemingly been never released on home video. Despite several claims to the contrary that it ''did'' see either a VHS or DVD release at one point, virtually all of the known existing home video releases of the film are instead edited versions of the universally-acclaimed director's cut, and if there actually ''was'' a home video release of the American theatrical cut at one point, [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes it's borderline impossible to find it now]]. Considering how said cut --which sloppily watered down director Sierra Leone's preferred non-linear four-hour cut into a chronological two-hour cut against his wishes-- was trashed by reviewers and heavily flopped at the box office; it's its lack of availability may (understandably) be [[OldShame a deliberate example]].
1st Apr '17 8:14:50 PM thelivingtoad
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** And again, Orson Welles' ''TheOtherSideOfTheWind'', one of his last projects, starring John Huston and Peter Bogdanovich; supposedly "96% complete" but gathering dust in a vault for decades due to legal squabbles.

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** And again, Orson Welles' ''TheOtherSideOfTheWind'', one of his last projects, starring John Huston and Peter Bogdanovich; supposedly "96% complete" but gathering dust in a vault for decades due to legal squabbles. Netflix [[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/14/movies/unfinished-orson-welles-film-gets-a-netflix-commitment.html bought the rights]] to the film in March 2017, and are funding restoration of the footage, but no other details (like a release date) have been announced since.
1st Apr '17 8:10:15 PM thelivingtoad
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* Music/TheBeatles documentary ''Film/LetItBe'' was last legally released in 1991 (laserdisc and VHS). Odds are, it will never be legally released again in its original form, and we've no idea if it'll ever be legally released again in any form. (There is dissonance between what viewers will expect to see and what [[Music/TheBeatles Apple Corps]] wants to show.) Paul McCartney told ''[[http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/paul-mccartney-looks-back-the-rolling-stone-interview-w433437 Rolling Stone]]'' in 2016 that he wants the film to be released, correctly noting that he should be the main objector among the Apple Corps stakesholders because he "doesn't come off well" in it.

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* Music/TheBeatles documentary ''Film/LetItBe'' was last legally released in 1991 (laserdisc and VHS). Odds are, it will never be legally released again in its original form, and we've no idea if it'll ever be legally released again in any form. (There is dissonance between what viewers will expect to see and what [[Music/TheBeatles Apple Corps]] wants to show.) Paul McCartney Music/PaulMcCartney told ''[[http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/paul-mccartney-looks-back-the-rolling-stone-interview-w433437 Rolling Stone]]'' in 2016 that he wants the film to be released, correctly noting that he should be the main objector among the Apple Corps stakesholders because he "doesn't come off well" in it. Despite [=McCartney=]'s comment, the film has yet to be re-released.
1st Apr '17 8:09:20 PM thelivingtoad
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* Music/TheBeatles documentary ''Film/LetItBe'' was last legally released in 1991 (laserdisc and VHS). Odds are, it will never be legally released again in its original form, and we've no idea if it'll ever be legally released again in any form. (There is dissonance between what viewers will expect to see and what [[Music/TheBeatles Apple Corps]] wants to show.)

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* Music/TheBeatles documentary ''Film/LetItBe'' was last legally released in 1991 (laserdisc and VHS). Odds are, it will never be legally released again in its original form, and we've no idea if it'll ever be legally released again in any form. (There is dissonance between what viewers will expect to see and what [[Music/TheBeatles Apple Corps]] wants to show.)) Paul McCartney told ''[[http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/paul-mccartney-looks-back-the-rolling-stone-interview-w433437 Rolling Stone]]'' in 2016 that he wants the film to be released, correctly noting that he should be the main objector among the Apple Corps stakesholders because he "doesn't come off well" in it.
29th Mar '17 9:09:23 AM ooh
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** The uncut version of ''Film/2001ASpaceOdyssey'' has not been seen anywhere since its premiere engagements. Warner Bros. discovered 17 minutes of the footage in 2010; they have no intention of reinserting the footage back into the film in keeping with Kubrick's intentions, but whether they'll be included as extras in an upcoming video release is anyone's guess at this point.
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