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19th Mar '17 9:52:18 AM nombretomado
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* ''TabletopGame/HunterTheVigil'' in the NewWorldOfDarkness has an unusually respectful variant of this in the Talbot Group, who are Hunters who focus on trying to rehabilitate and cure spirit-ridden and werewolves. They resort to violence only as a last resort, and are generally one of the nicest people, though somewhat misinformed in their purpose. Most notable, [[WerewolfTheForsaken Uratha]] ''can not'' be cured of being werewolves, anymore than, say, Africans could be cured of having dark skin -- werewolfism is a genetic trait.

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* ''TabletopGame/HunterTheVigil'' in the NewWorldOfDarkness TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness has an unusually respectful variant of this in the Talbot Group, who are Hunters who focus on trying to rehabilitate and cure spirit-ridden and werewolves. They resort to violence only as a last resort, and are generally one of the nicest people, though somewhat misinformed in their purpose. Most notable, [[WerewolfTheForsaken Uratha]] ''can not'' be cured of being werewolves, anymore than, say, Africans could be cured of having dark skin -- werewolfism is a genetic trait.
22nd Feb '17 5:34:48 AM Morgenthaler
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They may not even be that far off. If the creature being advocated for is [[DarkIsNotEvil genuinely good]] the Zombie Advocate can get TheHunter to stop from committing a VanHelsingHateCrime they [[HeWhoFightsMonsters might]] regret. In more idealistic stories they're instrumental in [[ShamingTheMob getting]] the [[TorchesAndPitchforks angry villagers]] (or [[JustAMachine disdainful scientists)]] and the misunderstood monster to reconcile -- until some idiot goes invoking an InterruptedCooldownHug, that is. Interestingly, they may well have hated or feared the monster just like everyone else, only changing their mind after [[WhyIsntItAttacking discovering]] their [[GentleGiant gentle]] side.

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They may not even be that far off. If the creature being advocated for is [[DarkIsNotEvil genuinely good]] the Zombie Advocate can get TheHunter the HunterOfMonsters to stop from committing a VanHelsingHateCrime they [[HeWhoFightsMonsters might]] regret. In more idealistic stories they're instrumental in [[ShamingTheMob getting]] the [[TorchesAndPitchforks angry villagers]] (or [[JustAMachine disdainful scientists)]] and the misunderstood monster to reconcile -- until some idiot goes invoking an InterruptedCooldownHug, that is. Interestingly, they may well have hated or feared the monster just like everyone else, only changing their mind after [[WhyIsntItAttacking discovering]] their [[GentleGiant gentle]] side.
30th Dec '16 8:58:32 AM JoeMerl
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* Hermione in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire'' started S.P.E.W., the Society for the Promotion of Elfish Welfare. Notable in that house elves ''do not want'' better treatment, being a [[PlanetOfHats race of]] {{Extreme Doormat}}s. Considering that they are ''physically and mentally incapable'' of disobeying their owners, it may be fair to say the elves generally lack the ability to independently "want" anything in particular, Dobbies and Kreachers notwithstanding. Hermione's understanding of the situation gradually improves from Book 4 ("The other elves will see how happy [Dobby] is, being free, and slowly it'll dawn on them that they want that too!”) to Book 7 (after Kreacher is punishing himself for calling her a Mudblood: "Don't you see how sick it is, the way they've got to obey?").\\\
In general, it's clear that a lot of masters take advantage of their house elves' psychology and end up physically and mentally abusing them in ways that sentient creatures shouldn't ''have'' to put up with. {{Word of God}} states that Hermione eventually gets a job in the Ministry working to pass laws requiring that House Elves are treated humanely in their positions. A good example of the problem is Dumbledore's hiring of Dobby. The first offer was good wages and weekends off, but Dobby talked him down.

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* Hermione in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire'' started S.P.E.W., the Society for the Promotion of Elfish Welfare. Notable in that house elves ''do not want'' better treatment, being a [[PlanetOfHats race of]] {{Extreme Doormat}}s. Considering that they are ''physically and mentally incapable'' of disobeying their owners, it may be fair to say the elves generally lack the ability to independently "want" anything in particular, Dobbies and Kreachers notwithstanding. Hermione's understanding of the situation gradually improves from Book 4 ("The other elves will see how happy [Dobby] is, being free, and slowly it'll dawn on them that they want that too!”) to Book 7 (after Kreacher is punishing himself for calling her a Mudblood: "Don't you see how sick it is, the way they've got to obey?").\\\
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In general, it's clear that a lot of masters take advantage of their house elves' psychology and end up physically and mentally abusing them in ways that sentient creatures shouldn't ''have'' to put up with. {{Word of God}} states that Hermione eventually gets a job in the Ministry working to pass laws requiring that House Elves are treated humanely in their positions. A good example of the problem is Dumbledore's hiring of Dobby. The first offer was good wages and weekends off, but Dobby talked him down.down.
** [[AllThereInTheManual Extra-book materials]] have mentioned other groups, like the Society for the Support of [[MuggleBornOfMages Squibs]] and the Society for the Reformation of Hags. There's also Carlotta Pinkstone, a {{Muggle}}-rights activist who wants to end TheMasquerade and has been arrested for blatant use of magic in front of Muggles.



* Mark Lilly, from ''WesternAnimation/UglyAmericans''. Actually, this is almost the entire point of the show.

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* The premise of ''WesternAnimation/UglyAmericans'' is that a social worker named Mark Lilly, from ''WesternAnimation/UglyAmericans''. Actually, this is almost Lilly tries to help various supernatural creatures integrate into an AlternateUniverse version of New York City. Includes a [[BigotWithABadge police chief who hates the entire point of supernatural]] (especially vampires--his ex-wife left him for one), a zombie roommate, a [[WitchSpecies wizard]] co-worker and a boss/girlfriend who's a [[HornyDevil promiscuous]] [[HalfHumanHybrid half-demon]] (her father is the show.[[LegacyCharacter current]] Devil).
28th Dec '16 4:29:12 PM MiddleEighth
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*The four in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone''. Being [[ActualPacifist Actual Pacifists]], they strongly oppose killing—well, everything, but most specifically for trope purposes, the Tayhil, the murderous snakemen who are the chief minions of the Black Tower and the #1 enemy of all other humans on C'hou. This stance is a major reason why [[spoiler: the Power Groups are not interested in having them hang around, or even roam around freely, and causes a lot of problems for them.]] The four are so concerned that all the baddies will be wiped out when the Black Tower falls that they're willing to give up the wishes the Pyar gods promised them to save the creatures.
19th May '16 1:34:56 PM erforce
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* ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'' raised the possibility of ghost advocacy groups when they showed a cover of ''The Atlantic'' magazine that asked "Do Ghosts Have Civil Rights?"

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* ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'' The success montage of ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'' raised the possibility of ghost advocacy groups when they the film showed a cover of ''The Atlantic'' magazine that asked "Do Ghosts Have Civil Rights?"
8th May '16 7:33:13 AM harostar
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* In ''Manga/TokyoGhoul[=:Re=]'', Ghoul Rights Activists spring up in the aftermath of [[spoiler: famous novelist Sen Takatsuki (Eto) revealing herself to be a ghoul, and publishing a novel with a sympathetic ghoul protagonist]]. While many initially disregard them as morons swept up in a trend, there is indication of real society-wide changes beginning as a result of the public realizing that ghouls are [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman people too]].
17th Apr '16 9:57:03 PM AnoneMouseJr.
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* ''FanFic/AMidsummerNightsDream'': In chapter 15, Fluttershy thinks everyone is being undeservedly hostile towards the Kaiju that have begun attacking Equestria, causing death and destruction whenever they make landfall. (She is also unaware that they were ''created'' for the sole purpose of killing and destroying.)
25th Feb '16 2:32:30 PM 20person
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', the [[UndergroundRailroad Railroad]] helps liberate [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Synths]] from the Institute, while the rest of the population views Synths with hostility and suspicion, with varying degrees of success. Some Synths end up successfully escaping and living happy lives, but some are recaptured by the Institute, and others end up becoming Raiders terrorizing the population of the Commonwealth. [[TomatoInTheMirror One actually ended up joining an organization that wants to destroy all Synths]].

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', the [[UndergroundRailroad Railroad]] helps liberate [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Synths]] from the Institute, while the rest of the population views Synths with hostility and suspicion, with varying degrees of success. Some Synths end up successfully escaping and living happy lives, but some are recaptured by the Institute, and others end up becoming Raiders terrorizing the population of the Commonwealth. [[TomatoInTheMirror One actually ended up joining an organization organization]] [[BoomerangBigot that wants to destroy all Synths]].
25th Feb '16 2:31:49 PM 20person
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', the [[UndergroundRailroad Railroad]] helps liberate [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Synths]] from the Institute, which the rest of the population views Synths with hostility and suspicion, with varying degrees of success. Some Synths end up successfully escaping and living happy lives, but some are recaptured by the Institute, and some end up becoming Raiders terrorizing the population of the Commonwealth. [[TomatoInTheMirror One actually ended up joining an organization that wants to destroy all Synths]].

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', the [[UndergroundRailroad Railroad]] helps liberate [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Synths]] from the Institute, which while the rest of the population views Synths with hostility and suspicion, with varying degrees of success. Some Synths end up successfully escaping and living happy lives, but some are recaptured by the Institute, and some others end up becoming Raiders terrorizing the population of the Commonwealth. [[TomatoInTheMirror One actually ended up joining an organization that wants to destroy all Synths]].
25th Feb '16 2:30:31 PM 20person
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